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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by lv90210 on Aug 17, 2019 4:58:14 GMT 1, I would just like to add, my 'stop and search' (71/500) was stolen from my house some years ago, the break in organised by a forum member. I'm convinced he had the paperwork and sales invoices for his own stop and search, and duplicated them with my print, to sell on, changing the number to match his. You know who you are.  
Sorry to hear this, there is some real scum in this world.
Do you not think it's worth shaming this person to protect people in the future ? I imagine this will not be a one off with someone of this level.
I would just like to add, my 'stop and search' (71/500) was stolen from my house some years ago, the break in organised by a forum member. I'm convinced he had the paperwork and sales invoices for his own stop and search, and duplicated them with my print, to sell on, changing the number to match his. You know who you are. Sorry to hear this, there is some real scum in this world. Do you not think it's worth shaming this person to protect people in the future ? I imagine this will not be a one off with someone of this level. |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by spaceshrew on Aug 17, 2019 9:19:24 GMT 1, Often with this kind of crime, where no one has been physically injured,
the Police can only throw so much time at it understandably.
They were very sure, as I'am who arranged the break in, but the evidence couldn't be found sadly,
the reason I have never named the suspect, or even hinted at their identity.
Just be careful who you invite into your homes and show your collections too.
Often with this kind of crime, where no one has been physically injured,
the Police can only throw so much time at it understandably.
They were very sure, as I'am who arranged the break in, but the evidence couldn't be found sadly,
the reason I have never named the suspect, or even hinted at their identity.
Just be careful who you invite into your homes and show your collections too.
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lv90210
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by lv90210 on Aug 17, 2019 9:21:38 GMT 1, I’m sure karma will come back to bite.
I’m sure karma will come back to bite.
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by telecine on Aug 17, 2019 17:27:05 GMT 1, I would just like to add, my 'stop and search' (71/500) was stolen from my house some years ago, the break in organised by a forum member. I'm convinced he had the paperwork and sales invoices for his own stop and search, and duplicated them with my print, to sell on, changing the number to match his. You know who you are.
That is terrible and heartbreaking . I’d definitely approve of a ‘name and shame’ in this case .. shame about the evidence .
I would just like to add, my 'stop and search' (71/500) was stolen from my house some years ago, the break in organised by a forum member. I'm convinced he had the paperwork and sales invoices for his own stop and search, and duplicated them with my print, to sell on, changing the number to match his. You know who you are. That is terrible and heartbreaking . I’d definitely approve of a ‘name and shame’ in this case .. shame about the evidence . |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by met on Aug 17, 2019 17:35:22 GMT 1, You present a very convincing case here. The seller does have a lot of circumstantial evidence, such as auction labels etc. Which would be difficult to fake. Would you think it is possible he is the owner of the Original and is selling a fake with his labels ?
The most complicated and time-consuming work would have been counterfeiting the print and blindstamp.
Regarding the Bonhams material pictured in the eBay listing, I don't see anything especially difficult to fake or otherwise get hold of (and some of this material is nonsensical):
(i) doctored invoice, easily created by someone with access to a copy of a genuine invoice;
(ii) partially filled-in (i.e. insufficiently completed) registration and bidding form — such forms being available to anybody who presents themselves at the auction house and asks;
(iii) compliments slip, easily faked or just grabbed from a reception desk (but which aren't in any event normally provided to winning bidders at auctions);
(iv) some bizarre card with the auction lot details — text that looks like it might have been copied from the sale catalogue [Cannot imagine any auction house actually printing such a card. What purpose would it serve?];
(v) random string tag with "45" stamped on it, which would not be overly complicated to acquire or to fake (but also wouldn't accompany an auction lot consisting of a work on paper); and
(vi) a ticket for the sale, that may be genuine, or simply faked and then torn and crumpled for appearances. I attended the event in 2009 and wasn't even aware that tickets may have been sent out to potential bidders. The sale was open to every person who just showed up on the night.
__________
With respect to the identity of the fraudster, it could be anyone with access to an authentic Stop and Search print and COA.
The 2009 sale at Bonhams provided a convenient and credible fake-provenance story for the eBay seller, famileebusiness. They knew that their marks would likely check to ensure that a sale took place for the print with edition number 159/500.
For scammers, publicly-available information like what's accessible on Bonhams' website is therefore often a godsend. Because that is precisely what lulls inexperienced, stupid or inattentive buyers into a false sense of security while they make superficial attempts at carrying out their due diligence.
You present a very convincing case here. The seller does have a lot of circumstantial evidence, such as auction labels etc. Which would be difficult to fake. Would you think it is possible he is the owner of the Original and is selling a fake with his labels ? The most complicated and time-consuming work would have been counterfeiting the print and blindstamp. Regarding the Bonhams material pictured in the eB ay listing, I don't see anything especially difficult to fake or otherwise get hold of (and some of this material is nonsensical): (i) doctored invoice, easily created by someone with access to a copy of a genuine invoice; (ii) partially filled-in (i.e. insufficiently completed) registration and bidding form — such forms being available to anybody who presents themselves at the auction house and asks; (iii) compliments slip, easily faked or just grabbed from a reception desk (but which aren't in any event normally provided to winning bidders at auctions); (iv) some bizarre card with the auction lot details — text that looks like it might have been copied from the sale catalogue [Cannot imagine any auction house actually printing such a card. What purpose would it serve?]; (v) random string tag with "45" stamped on it, which would not be overly complicated to acquire or to fake (but also wouldn't accompany an auction lot consisting of a work on paper); and (vi) a ticket for the sale, that may be genuine, or simply faked and then torn and crumpled for appearances. I attended the event in 2009 and wasn't even aware that tickets may have been sent out to potential bidders. The sale was open to every person who just showed up on the night. __________ With respect to the identity of the fraudster, it could be anyone with access to an authentic Stop and Search print and COA. The 2009 sale at Bonhams provided a convenient and credible fake-provenance story for the eB ay seller, famileebusiness. They knew that their marks would likely check to ensure that a sale took place for the print with edition number 159/500. For scammers, publicly-available information like what's accessible on Bonhams' website is therefore often a godsend. Because that is precisely what lulls inexperienced, stupid or inattentive buyers into a false sense of security while they make superficial attempts at carrying out their due diligence. |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 17:51:47 GMT 1, You present a very convincing case here. The seller does have a lot of circumstantial evidence, such as auction labels etc. Which would be difficult to fake. Would you think it is possible he is the owner of the Original and is selling a fake with his labels ? The most complicated and time-consuming work would have been counterfeiting the print and blindstamp. Regarding the Bonhams material pictured in the eB ay listing, I don't see anything especially difficult to fake or otherwise get hold of (and some of this material is nonsensical): (i) doctored invoice, easily created by someone with access to a copy of a genuine invoice; (ii) partially filled-in (i.e. insufficiently completed) registration and bidding form — such forms being available to anybody who presents themselves at the auction house and asks; (iii) compliments slip, easily faked or just grabbed from a reception desk (but which aren't in any event normally provided to winning bidders at auctions); (iv) some bizarre card with the auction lot details — text that looks like it might have been copied from the sale catalogue [Cannot imagine any auction house actually printing such a card. What purpose would it serve?]; (v) random string tag with "45" stamped on it, which would not be overly complicated to acquire or to fake (but also wouldn't accompany an auction lot consisting of a work on paper); and (vi) a ticket for the sale, that may be genuine, or simply faked and then torn and crumpled for appearances. I attended the event in 2009 and wasn't even aware that tickets may have been sent out to potential bidders. The sale was open to every person who just showed up on the night. __________ With respect to the identity of the fraudster, it could be anyone with access to an authentic Stop and Search print and COA. The 2009 sale at Bonhams provided a convenient and credible fake-provenance story for the eB ay seller, famileebusiness. They knew that their marks would likely check to ensure that a sale took place for the print with edition number 159/500. For scammers, publicly-available information like what's accessible on Bonhams' website is therefore often a godsend. Because that is precisely what lulls inexperienced, stupid or inattentive buyers into a false sense of security while they make superficial attempts at carrying out their due diligence.
half tempted to create a fake eBay account and bid there items up or buy one and get police involved and fraud squad. These vermin should be arrested why the hell they been allowed to get away with it.disgusting.
You present a very convincing case here. The seller does have a lot of circumstantial evidence, such as auction labels etc. Which would be difficult to fake. Would you think it is possible he is the owner of the Original and is selling a fake with his labels ? The most complicated and time-consuming work would have been counterfeiting the print and blindstamp. Regarding the Bonhams material pictured in the eB ay listing, I don't see anything especially difficult to fake or otherwise get hold of (and some of this material is nonsensical): (i) doctored invoice, easily created by someone with access to a copy of a genuine invoice; (ii) partially filled-in (i.e. insufficiently completed) registration and bidding form — such forms being available to anybody who presents themselves at the auction house and asks; (iii) compliments slip, easily faked or just grabbed from a reception desk (but which aren't in any event normally provided to winning bidders at auctions); (iv) some bizarre card with the auction lot details — text that looks like it might have been copied from the sale catalogue [Cannot imagine any auction house actually printing such a card. What purpose would it serve?]; (v) random string tag with "45" stamped on it, which would not be overly complicated to acquire or to fake (but also wouldn't accompany an auction lot consisting of a work on paper); and (vi) a ticket for the sale, that may be genuine, or simply faked and then torn and crumpled for appearances. I attended the event in 2009 and wasn't even aware that tickets may have been sent out to potential bidders. The sale was open to every person who just showed up on the night. __________ With respect to the identity of the fraudster, it could be anyone with access to an authentic Stop and Search print and COA. The 2009 sale at Bonhams provided a convenient and credible fake-provenance story for the eB ay seller, famileebusiness. They knew that their marks would likely check to ensure that a sale took place for the print with edition number 159/500. For scammers, publicly-available information like what's accessible on Bonhams' website is therefore often a godsend. Because that is precisely what lulls inexperienced, stupid or inattentive buyers into a false sense of security while they make superficial attempts at carrying out their due diligence. half tempted to create a fake eBay account and bid there items up or buy one and get police involved and fraud squad. These vermin should be arrested why the hell they been allowed to get away with it.disgusting. |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by irl1 on Aug 17, 2019 19:30:16 GMT 1, The most complicated and time-consuming work would have been counterfeiting the print and blindstamp. Regarding the Bonhams material pictured in the eB ay listing, I don't see anything especially difficult to fake or otherwise get hold of (and some of this material is nonsensical): (i) doctored invoice, easily created by someone with access to a copy of a genuine invoice; (ii) partially filled-in (i.e. insufficiently completed) registration and bidding form — such forms being available to anybody who presents themselves at the auction house and asks; (iii) compliments slip, easily faked or just grabbed from a reception desk (but which aren't in any event normally provided to winning bidders at auctions); (iv) some bizarre card with the auction lot details — text that looks like it might have been copied from the sale catalogue [Cannot imagine any auction house actually printing such a card. What purpose would it serve?]; (v) random string tag with "45" stamped on it, which would not be overly complicated to acquire or to fake (but also wouldn't accompany an auction lot consisting of a work on paper); and (vi) a ticket for the sale, that may be genuine, or simply faked and then torn and crumpled for appearances. I attended the event in 2009 and wasn't even aware that tickets may have been sent out to potential bidders. The sale was open to every person who just showed up on the night. __________ With respect to the identity of the fraudster, it could be anyone with access to an authentic Stop and Search print and COA. The 2009 sale at Bonhams provided a convenient and credible fake-provenance story for the eB ay seller, famileebusiness. They knew that their marks would likely check to ensure that a sale took place for the print with edition number 159/500. For scammers, publicly-available information like what's accessible on Bonhams' website is therefore often a godsend. Because that is precisely what lulls inexperienced, stupid or inattentive buyers into a false sense of security while they make superficial attempts at carrying out their due diligence. half tempted to create a fake eBay account and bid there items up or buy one and get police involved and fraud squad. These vermin should be arrested why the hell they been allowed to get away with it.disgusting.
You will be told to report it to Action Fraud then its left on their files forever!
www.actionfraud.police.uk/
The most complicated and time-consuming work would have been counterfeiting the print and blindstamp. Regarding the Bonhams material pictured in the eB ay listing, I don't see anything especially difficult to fake or otherwise get hold of (and some of this material is nonsensical): (i) doctored invoice, easily created by someone with access to a copy of a genuine invoice; (ii) partially filled-in (i.e. insufficiently completed) registration and bidding form — such forms being available to anybody who presents themselves at the auction house and asks; (iii) compliments slip, easily faked or just grabbed from a reception desk (but which aren't in any event normally provided to winning bidders at auctions); (iv) some bizarre card with the auction lot details — text that looks like it might have been copied from the sale catalogue [Cannot imagine any auction house actually printing such a card. What purpose would it serve?]; (v) random string tag with "45" stamped on it, which would not be overly complicated to acquire or to fake (but also wouldn't accompany an auction lot consisting of a work on paper); and (vi) a ticket for the sale, that may be genuine, or simply faked and then torn and crumpled for appearances. I attended the event in 2009 and wasn't even aware that tickets may have been sent out to potential bidders. The sale was open to every person who just showed up on the night. __________ With respect to the identity of the fraudster, it could be anyone with access to an authentic Stop and Search print and COA. The 2009 sale at Bonhams provided a convenient and credible fake-provenance story for the eB ay seller, famileebusiness. They knew that their marks would likely check to ensure that a sale took place for the print with edition number 159/500. For scammers, publicly-available information like what's accessible on Bonhams' website is therefore often a godsend. Because that is precisely what lulls inexperienced, stupid or inattentive buyers into a false sense of security while they make superficial attempts at carrying out their due diligence. half tempted to create a fake eBay account and bid there items up or buy one and get police involved and fraud squad. These vermin should be arrested why the hell they been allowed to get away with it.disgusting. Do not buy because the police will do "nothing" and i mean NOTHING ....... You will be told to report it to Action Fraud then its left on their files forever! www.actionfraud.police.uk/ |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Dive Jedi on Aug 17, 2019 23:31:06 GMT 1, half tempted to create a fake eBay account and bid there items up or buy one and get police involved and fraud squad. These vermin should be arrested why the hell they been allowed to get away with it.disgusting. Do not buy because the police will do "noting" and i mean NOTING .......
So when you say "noting" do you mean "NOTING" ?
Or do you actually mean "nothing"?
half tempted to create a fake eBay account and bid there items up or buy one and get police involved and fraud squad. These vermin should be arrested why the hell they been allowed to get away with it.disgusting. Do not buy because the police will do "noting" and i mean NOTING ....... So when you say "noting" do you mean "NOTING" ? Or do you actually mean "nothing"? |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by irl1 on Aug 18, 2019 0:04:37 GMT 1, Do not buy because the police will do "noting" and i mean NOTING ....... So when you say "noting" do you mean "NOTING" ? Or do you actually mean "nothing"?
Do not buy because the police will do "noting" and i mean NOTING ....... So when you say "noting" do you mean "NOTING" ? Or do you actually mean "nothing"? Another words "fuckall" |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by rusty66 on Aug 22, 2019 3:01:55 GMT 1,  "Original Banksy "2pac" on canvas"
Here`s something funny for you, found on the german little sister of ebay, called "ebay-kleinanzeigen":
The seller replied on my question of the provenance, it`s a gift from his uncle, who was in New York at the same time, when Banksy was active there (no date, no PC, absolutely "not(h)ing" ). He raised the price after my inquiry from EUR 4 k up to EUR 250 k immediately ...
Enjoy art  "Original Banksy "2pac" on canvas"
Here`s something funny for you, found on the german little sister of ebay, called "ebay-kleinanzeigen":
The seller replied on my question of the provenance, it`s a gift from his uncle, who was in New York at the same time, when Banksy was active there (no date, no PC, absolutely "not(h)ing" ). He raised the price after my inquiry from EUR 4 k up to EUR 250 k immediately ...
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Dive Jedi on Aug 25, 2019 15:28:12 GMT 1, On what do you base this is genuine?
Not saying it's not. I have no clue. Just wondering why you would be certain.
A bit odd they took a photo of the COA a month before it was written….
On what do you base this is genuine? Not saying it's not. I have no clue. Just wondering why you would be certain. A bit odd they took a photo of the COA a month before it was written…. |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by monkeyman01 on Aug 25, 2019 16:09:55 GMT 1, Looks suspect to me 🤔 but I may be wrong.
I guess for 99p what could possibly go wrong?
Looks suspect to me 🤔 but I may be wrong.
I guess for 99p what could possibly go wrong?
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Coach on Aug 25, 2019 16:16:26 GMT 1, On what do you base this is genuine? Not saying it's not. I have no clue. Just wondering why you would be certain. A bit odd they took a photo of the COA a month before it was written….
Well spotted Sherlock.
On what do you base this is genuine? Not saying it's not. I have no clue. Just wondering why you would be certain. A bit odd they took a photo of the COA a month before it was written…. Well spotted Sherlock. |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Dive Jedi on Aug 25, 2019 18:37:35 GMT 1, Considering these are the rarest of the stickers there now seems to be 10 on ebay !! all fake imo
What's next : Pest Control for Peckham Rocks?
Considering these are the rarest of the stickers there now seems to be 10 on ebay !! all fake imo It's actually rather bizarre there are now stickers with COA. What's next : Pest Control for Peckham Rocks? |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Poster Bob on Aug 25, 2019 19:39:27 GMT 1, Ooh, how high can we make it go? 🤣
Ooh, how high can we make it go? 🤣
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 20:01:34 GMT 1,
it says the seller is based in the Costa del crime in spain.ted Patrick print is more legit to a banksy than this. Who's bidding it up to a million dollars. Can't we do our own sotherbys shock tactic on the seller.
it says the seller is based in the Costa del crime in spain.ted Patrick print is more legit to a banksy than this. Who's bidding it up to a million dollars. Can't we do our own sotherbys shock tactic on the seller. |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 20:04:41 GMT 1, Ooh, how high can we make it go? 🤣
I'm game to bid it up to a million. I don't mind getting a bad mark and saving a unsuspected buyer 3 and a half grand.
Ooh, how high can we make it go? 🤣 I'm game to bid it up to a million. I don't mind getting a bad mark and saving a unsuspected buyer 3 and a half grand. |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by irl1 on Aug 25, 2019 20:10:25 GMT 1, it says the seller is based in the Costa del crime in spain.ted Patrick print is more legit to a banksy than this. Who's bidding it up to a million dollars. Can't we do our own sotherbys shock tactic on the seller. 
it says the seller is based in the Costa del crime in spain.ted Patrick print is more legit to a banksy than this. Who's bidding it up to a million dollars. Can't we do our own sotherbys shock tactic on the seller. I'm in ill start with 20k |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by irl1 on Aug 25, 2019 20:12:26 GMT 1, Ooh, how high can we make it go? 🤣 I'm game to bid it up to a million. I don't mind getting a bad mark and saving a unsuspected buyer 3 and a half grand.
Ooh, how high can we make it go? 🤣 I'm game to bid it up to a million. I don't mind getting a bad mark and saving a unsuspected buyer 3 and a half grand. Best offer just taken £6,700 |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by irl1 on Aug 25, 2019 20:21:32 GMT 1, I'm game to bid it up to a million. I don't mind getting a bad mark and saving a unsuspected buyer 3 and a half grand. Best offer just taken £6,700
I'm game to bid it up to a million. I don't mind getting a bad mark and saving a unsuspected buyer 3 and a half grand. Best offer just taken £6,700 Sorry wrong ad still there. Bid in of 20k |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Lroy on Aug 25, 2019 20:25:49 GMT 1,
No I think that at the moment , Banksy prices, posters or tats are not at the top ! It’s worse for Invader !
I got the Lp for 3 euros that you posted months ago, prices are down, people are a bit fed up of this vinyl market ..
anyway, I am.
I sold all mines last year, for few quids...
No I think that at the moment , Banksy prices, posters or tats are not at the top ! It’s worse for Invader ! I got the Lp for 3 euros that you posted months ago, prices are down, people are a bit fed up of this vinyl market .. anyway, I am. I sold all mines last year, for few quids... |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 20:29:42 GMT 1, Best offer just taken £6,700 Sorry wrong ad still there. Bid in of 20k
now up to 20 grand 😂😂😂🤣😂
Best offer just taken £6,700 Sorry wrong ad still there. Bid in of 20k now up to 20 grand 😂😂😂🤣😂 |
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