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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by birdiet1me on Aug 13, 2019 4:22:02 GMT 1, A real Banksy? Banksy "Keep it real" on the bay:
Lol. Ironic!
So, this is not real? I am really asking. Been looking at it for a while now trying to figure it out. Obviously, I am no expert lol.
A real Banksy? Banksy "Keep it real" on the bay:
Lol. Ironic! So, this is not real? I am really asking. Been looking at it for a while now trying to figure it out. Obviously, I am no expert lol. |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Coach on Aug 13, 2019 16:19:19 GMT 1,
I was there on opening day/night. I saw none of these.
I was there on opening day/night. I saw none of these. |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Dive Jedi on Aug 13, 2019 16:24:06 GMT 1, All fakes only worth face value
So my painting was sold on a website from a fraud and most likely bought by a guy selling these,
so also a fraud…..
Happy days!
All fakes only worth face value Thanks, great…. So my painting was sold on a website from a fraud and most likely bought by a guy selling these, so also a fraud….. Happy days! |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by irl1 on Aug 13, 2019 16:32:31 GMT 1, All fakes only worth face value Thanks, great…. So my painting was sold on a website from a fraud and most likely bought by a guy selling these, so also a fraud….. Happy days! 
All fakes only worth face value Thanks, great…. So my painting was sold on a website from a fraud and most likely bought by a guy selling these, so also a fraud….. Happy days! And you missed out on your free gift. |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by avec art on Aug 15, 2019 23:00:46 GMT 1, well dodgy, the image looks pixelated therefore machine printed
well dodgy, the image looks pixelated therefore machine printed
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Tacobell on Aug 15, 2019 23:19:21 GMT 1, I'm not an expert, but several things don't look quite right. The signature color appears more of a dark blueish color vs. green blueish on verified editions. Also, the signature looks way too clean, like the "a" and the "y". I don't see a number and/or seal. Again, this is just an observation.
I'm not an expert, but several things don't look quite right. The signature color appears more of a dark blueish color vs. green blueish on verified editions. Also, the signature looks way too clean, like the "a" and the "y". I don't see a number and/or seal. Again, this is just an observation.
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by hnkpnk on Aug 15, 2019 23:21:34 GMT 1, The policemans thumb is blue so it is not the same print run as POWs.
So fake.
The policemans thumb is blue so it is not the same print run as POWs.
So fake.
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by dogstar on Aug 15, 2019 23:34:36 GMT 1, Wrong stock, should be Arches 88.
Wrong stock, should be Arches 88.
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Poster Bob on Aug 16, 2019 11:04:23 GMT 1,
At the very least, not a person you want to deal with. After agreeing a sale with someone the seller continued to solicit bids from the usual suspects and agreed sales with several different people. She refused to prove ownership via PC but was willing to provide proof of possession.
This is a big issue now with Ebay sales. If someone will not CC you in on the email to Pest Control, run.
The Monkey Queen sold this week appears fake. I won't say why, but to those in the know it is very, very obvious.
At the very least, not a person you want to deal with. After agreeing a sale with someone the seller continued to solicit bids from the usual suspects and agreed sales with several different people. She refused to prove ownership via PC but was willing to provide proof of possession. This is a big issue now with Ebay sales. If someone will not CC you in on the email to Pest Control, run. The Monkey Queen sold this week appears fake. I won't say why, but to those in the know it is very, very obvious. |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by avec art on Aug 16, 2019 11:35:38 GMT 1, yea, it's pretty obvious. Monkey Queen is meant to have a thin boarder, and in that one it's missing, as are certain colours it appears.
yea, it's pretty obvious. Monkey Queen is meant to have a thin boarder, and in that one it's missing, as are certain colours it appears.
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Poster Bob on Aug 16, 2019 11:57:54 GMT 1, yea, it's pretty obvious. Monkey Queen is meant to have a thin boarder, and in that one it's missing, as are certain colours it appears.
yea, it's pretty obvious. Monkey Queen is meant to have a thin boarder, and in that one it's missing, as are certain colours it appears. It's always a good idea to publically give fraudsters tips on how to improve their fakes. And for me to then quote them for posterity. |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by avec art on Aug 16, 2019 12:12:27 GMT 1, yea, it's pretty obvious. Monkey Queen is meant to have a thin boarder, and in that one it's missing, as are certain colours it appears. It's always a good idea to publically give fraudsters tips on how to improve their fakes. And for me to then quote them for posterity.
yea, it's pretty obvious. Monkey Queen is meant to have a thin boarder, and in that one it's missing, as are certain colours it appears. It's always a good idea to publically give fraudsters tips on how to improve their fakes. And for me to then quote them for posterity. I'm aware of not giving out tips, but in this case it's ridiculously obvious I don't think anyone is being helped. Even so if you feel strongly about that, why quote me so that I can't remove said comment Poster Bob |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Poster Bob on Aug 16, 2019 13:23:19 GMT 1, It's always a good idea to publically give fraudsters tips on how to improve their fakes. And for me to then quote them for posterity. I'm aware of not giving out tips, but in this case it's ridiculously obvious I don't think anyone is being helped. Even so if you feel strongly about that, why quote me so that I can't remove said comment Poster Bob
It's always a good idea to publically give fraudsters tips on how to improve their fakes. And for me to then quote them for posterity. I'm aware of not giving out tips, but in this case it's ridiculously obvious I don't think anyone is being helped. Even so if you feel strongly about that, why quote me so that I can't remove said comment Poster Bob Because my troll game is strong. 🤣 |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by gripin on Aug 16, 2019 14:45:51 GMT 1, indeed curious. looks quite legit to me.
but afterall it smells fishy - or the seller got an "offer he couldn't refuse" ;-)
indeed curious. looks quite legit to me.
but afterall it smells fishy - or the seller got an "offer he couldn't refuse" ;-)
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Poster Bob on Aug 16, 2019 15:15:13 GMT 1, I normally just sort the completed auctions by highest price to see what something sold for. The seller did send out convincing pictures, but wouldn't contact Pest Control to confirm ownership. If you see a red flag, walk away.
I normally just sort the completed auctions by highest price to see what something sold for. The seller did send out convincing pictures, but wouldn't contact Pest Control to confirm ownership. If you see a red flag, walk away.
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by met on Aug 16, 2019 16:31:21 GMT 1,
No, that was a counterfeit Banksy print.
I'm comfortable to publicly state the eBay seller (possibly based in Bath, UK and very likely a member of this forum), famileebusiness, is a fraudster:
feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=famileebusiness
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It's worth noting the fake POW Heavy Weaponry blindstamp, which is convincing and capable of fooling many people.
The eBay listing was also peppered with enough facts to appear genuine, especially to less experienced Banksy enthusiasts who truly want to believe that an item priced far below market value is real.
But there were plenty of red flags as well. While I won't mention too many, typos in the doctored Bonhams provenance documentation were a giveaway.
And when a seller says they'll ship expensive artwork after they return from holiday two weeks later, that's generally a bad sign. It can often mean the following:
"I need lots of time to empty my PayPal account and make off with your money before you realise you've been conned. And no, I'm not able to meet you in person for a cash-on-collection deal."
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183910874578
  
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For those who share my interest in amateur sleuthing, here are a few comparison shots with the authentic Stop and Search print that sold at Bonhams, Bond Street, London on 24 February 2009:
www.bonhams.com/auctions/16748/lot/45/
Genuine print edition number and blindstamp
Fake eBay print edition number and blindstamp
Genuine print signature
Fake eBay print signature
No, that was a counterfeit Banksy print. I'm comfortable to publicly state the eB ay seller (possibly based in Bath, UK and very likely a member of this forum), famileebusiness, is a fraudster: feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=famileebusiness__________ It's worth noting the fake POW Heavy Weaponry blindstamp, which is convincing and capable of fooling many people. The eB ay listing was also peppered with enough facts to appear genuine, especially to less experienced Ban ksy enthusiasts who truly want to believe that an item priced far below market value is real. But there were plenty of red flags as well. While I won't mention too many, typos in the doctored Bonhams provenance documentation were a giveaway. And when a seller says they'll ship expensive artwork after they return from holiday two weeks later, that's generally a bad sign. It can often mean the following: "I need lots of time to empty my PayPal account and make off with your money before you realise you've been conned. And no, I'm not able to meet you in person for a cash-on-collection deal."www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183910874578__________ For those who share my interest in amateur sleuthing, here are a few comparison shots with the authentic Stop and Search print that sold at Bonhams, Bond Street, London on 24 February 2009: www.bonhams.com/auctions/16748/lot/45/Genuine print edition number and blindstamp Fake eB ay print edition number and blindstamp Genuine print signature Fake eB ay print signature |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Dive Jedi on Aug 16, 2019 18:09:39 GMT 1, No, that was a counterfeit Banksy print. I'm comfortable to publicly state the eB ay seller (possibly based in Bath, UK and very likely a member of this forum), famileebusiness, is a fraudster: feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=famileebusiness__________ It's worth noting the fake POW Heavy Weaponry blindstamp, which is convincing and capable of fooling many people. The eB ay listing was also peppered with enough facts to appear genuine, especially to less experienced Ban ksy enthusiasts who truly want to believe that an item priced far below market value is real. But there were plenty of red flags as well. While I won't mention too many, typos in the doctored Bonhams provenance documentation were a giveaway. And when a seller says they'll ship expensive artwork after they return from holiday two weeks later, that's generally a bad sign. It can often mean the following: "I need lots of time to empty my PayPal account and make off with your money before you realise you've been conned. And no, I'm not able to meet you in person for a cash-on-collection deal."www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183910874578For those who share my interest in amateur sleuthing, here are a few comparison shots with the authentic Stop and Search print that sold at Bonhams, Bond Street, London on 24 February 2009: www.bonhams.com/auctions/16748/lot/45/
The seller does have a lot of circumstantial evidence, such as auction labels etc.
Which would be difficult to fake.
Would you think it is possible he is the owner of the Original and is selling a fake with his labels ?
No, that was a counterfeit Banksy print. I'm comfortable to publicly state the eB ay seller (possibly based in Bath, UK and very likely a member of this forum), famileebusiness, is a fraudster: feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=famileebusiness__________ It's worth noting the fake POW Heavy Weaponry blindstamp, which is convincing and capable of fooling many people. The eB ay listing was also peppered with enough facts to appear genuine, especially to less experienced Ban ksy enthusiasts who truly want to believe that an item priced far below market value is real. But there were plenty of red flags as well. While I won't mention too many, typos in the doctored Bonhams provenance documentation were a giveaway. And when a seller says they'll ship expensive artwork after they return from holiday two weeks later, that's generally a bad sign. It can often mean the following: "I need lots of time to empty my PayPal account and make off with your money before you realise you've been conned. And no, I'm not able to meet you in person for a cash-on-collection deal."www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183910874578For those who share my interest in amateur sleuthing, here are a few comparison shots with the authentic Stop and Search print that sold at Bonhams, Bond Street, London on 24 February 2009: www.bonhams.com/auctions/16748/lot/45/You present a very convincing case here. The seller does have a lot of circumstantial evidence, such as auction labels etc. Which would be difficult to fake. Would you think it is possible he is the owner of the Original and is selling a fake with his labels ? |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by spaceshrew on Aug 16, 2019 18:38:26 GMT 1, I would just like to add, my 'stop and search' (71/500) was stolen from my house some years ago, the break in organised by a forum member.
I'm convinced he had the paperwork and sales invoices for his own stop and search, and duplicated them with my print, to sell on, changing the number to match his.
You know who you are.
I would just like to add, my 'stop and search' (71/500) was stolen from my house some years ago, the break in organised by a forum member. I'm convinced he had the paperwork and sales invoices for his own stop and search, and duplicated them with my print, to sell on, changing the number to match his. You know who you are. |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Dive Jedi on Aug 16, 2019 18:43:25 GMT 1, I would just like to add, my 'stop and search' (71/500) was stolen from my house some years ago, the break in organised by a forum member. I'm convinced he had the paperwork and sales invoices for his own stop and search, and duplicated them with my print, to sell on, changing the number to match his. You know who you are.
Very sorry to hear this.
I would just like to add, my 'stop and search' (71/500) was stolen from my house some years ago, the break in organised by a forum member. I'm convinced he had the paperwork and sales invoices for his own stop and search, and duplicated them with my print, to sell on, changing the number to match his. You know who you are. That's seriously f#cked up. Very sorry to hear this. |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Coach on Aug 16, 2019 19:17:45 GMT 1, I would just like to add, my 'stop and search' (71/500) was stolen from my house some years ago, the break in organised by a forum member. I'm convinced he had the paperwork and sales invoices for his own stop and search, and duplicated them with my print, to sell on, changing the number to match his. You know who you are.
I remember this. It was brazen. And seemed to be targeted. Appalling. So sorry this happened to you.
I would just like to add, my 'stop and search' (71/500) was stolen from my house some years ago, the break in organised by a forum member. I'm convinced he had the paperwork and sales invoices for his own stop and search, and duplicated them with my print, to sell on, changing the number to match his. You know who you are. I remember this. It was brazen. And seemed to be targeted. Appalling. So sorry this happened to you. |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by dogstar on Aug 16, 2019 19:31:02 GMT 1, I would just like to add, my 'stop and search' (71/500) was stolen from my house some years ago, the break in organised by a forum member. I'm convinced he had the paperwork and sales invoices for his own stop and search, and duplicated them with my print, to sell on, changing the number to match his. You know who you are.
Might it be beneficial for other members to also know who?
I would just like to add, my 'stop and search' (71/500) was stolen from my house some years ago, the break in organised by a forum member. I'm convinced he had the paperwork and sales invoices for his own stop and search, and duplicated them with my print, to sell on, changing the number to match his. You know who you are.
Might it be beneficial for other members to also know who? |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by tab1 on Aug 16, 2019 20:05:09 GMT 1, I would just like to add, my 'stop and search' (71/500) was stolen from my house some years ago, the break in organised by a forum member. I'm convinced he had the paperwork and sales invoices for his own stop and search, and duplicated them with my print, to sell on, changing the number to match his. You know who you are.
Might it be beneficial for other members to also know who?
Was the person charged in a criminal court?
Bit strong throwing around accusations on speculation? someone else will probably dig up an old thread and name the accused .
When something like this happens all thoughts happen and paranoia sets in.
Restraint and rational thought process needed on hard bound proven facts otherwise turns into victimisation and bullying on the forum.
If the above have been established then name .
I would just like to add, my 'stop and search' (71/500) was stolen from my house some years ago, the break in organised by a forum member. I'm convinced he had the paperwork and sales invoices for his own stop and search, and duplicated them with my print, to sell on, changing the number to match his. You know who you are.
Might it be beneficial for other members to also know who? Was the person charged in a criminal court? Bit strong throwing around accusations on speculation? someone else will probably dig up an old thread and name the accused . When something like this happens all thoughts happen and paranoia sets in. Restraint and rational thought process needed on hard bound proven facts otherwise turns into victimisation and bullying on the forum. If the above have been established then name . |
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Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?, by Lazarus II on Aug 16, 2019 20:17:48 GMT 1,
Might it be beneficial for other members to also know who? Was the person charged in a criminal court? Bit strong throwing around accusations on speculation? someone else will probably dig up an old thread and name the accused . When something like this happens all thoughts happen and paranoia sets in. Restraint and rational thought process needed on hard bound proven facts otherwise turns into victimisation and bullying on the forum. If the above have been established then name .
i bought a fairly expensive print from Spaceshrew about a year ago and a more rational bloke you couldn’t deal with.
Might it be beneficial for other members to also know who? Was the person charged in a criminal court? Bit strong throwing around accusations on speculation? someone else will probably dig up an old thread and name the accused . When something like this happens all thoughts happen and paranoia sets in. Restraint and rational thought process needed on hard bound proven facts otherwise turns into victimisation and bullying on the forum. If the above have been established then name . i bought a fairly expensive print from Spaceshrew about a year ago and a more rational bloke you couldn’t deal with. |
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