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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by The Italian One on Jul 23, 2019 10:45:45 GMT 1, 'Morning art lover,
I recently sold a sculpture by Spanish artist Pejac (i'm a collector but sometimes i sell to finance other acquisition).
I sold it to a buyer in USA (I'm based in Italy), once i received the payment i provided to ship the art fully insured and tracked with DHL.
When the buyer received the art it was partially damaged, see photos bellow.
At first when the buyer informed me about the art been damaged i was really upset, beside the commercial side of the piece. i buy art because i love it.
From the photos you can clearly see the art was open during inspection in customs and repacked in the wrong way (you can see hole in the carton box ).
at the end of the story insurance offered me to choose between 2 solution :
1) to get half of the insured value and allow me to keep the damaged art.
2) to get a full refund but i will have to send proof of the art being totally destroyed.(that means that i had to totally destroy by my self the art).
I might be a little sentimental but really it was hard to me to totally destroy the art that was mine!
i make the buyer ship back the art to me, and now that the art is back at my place i have to decide between the 2 options.
Honestly i think will restore it and permanently keep it in my collection rather than destroying it.
Just wanted to share my experience and hopefully looking back in 2-3 years and be grateful to my self to have done the right decision.
'Morning art lover, I recently sold a sculpture by Spanish artist Pejac (i'm a collector but sometimes i sell to finance other acquisition). I sold it to a buyer in USA (I'm based in Italy), once i received the payment i provided to ship the art fully insured and tracked with DHL. When the buyer received the art it was partially damaged, see photos bellow. At first when the buyer informed me about the art been damaged i was really upset, beside the commercial side of the piece. i buy art because i love it. From the photos you can clearly see the art was open during inspection in customs and repacked in the wrong way (you can see hole in the carton box ). at the end of the story insurance offered me to choose between 2 solution : 1) to get half of the insured value and allow me to keep the damaged art. 2) to get a full refund but i will have to send proof of the art being totally destroyed.(that means that i had to totally destroy by my self the art). I might be a little sentimental but really it was hard to me to totally destroy the art that was mine! i make the buyer ship back the art to me, and now that the art is back at my place i have to decide between the 2 options. Honestly i think will restore it and permanently keep it in my collection rather than destroying it. Just wanted to share my experience and hopefully looking back in 2-3 years and be grateful to my self to have done the right decision. |
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by streetartger on Jul 23, 2019 10:55:21 GMT 1, Looks like just the wooden bench is broken the ship and bottle look intact... don't think it's too bad... if you get 50% from the insurance, we are talking about around 1500€ - I would keep the piece und glue the wood together. Honestly, money wise I think you made more profit with the insurance way than selling it  And you still have it... once glued together you won't see the damage.
I own a Desprestigio myself. I would never destroy it to get my money back...
Looks like just the wooden bench is broken the ship and bottle look intact... don't think it's too bad... if you get 50% from the insurance, we are talking about around 1500€ - I would keep the piece und glue the wood together. Honestly, money wise I think you made more profit with the insurance way than selling it And you still have it... once glued together you won't see the damage. I own a Desprestigio myself. I would never destroy it to get my money back... |
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by irl1 on Jul 23, 2019 11:02:32 GMT 1, This is a big problem with these customs people. Over the years i have often spent 4 hours packing a painting for them to come along open it and spend 10 mins repacking it.
Sorry to see this happen but you might look back in years to come and thank your lucky stars it was damaged
Everything in life happens for a reason 
This is a big problem with these customs people. Over the years i have often spent 4 hours packing a painting for them to come along open it and spend 10 mins repacking it. Sorry to see this happen but you might look back in years to come and thank your lucky stars it was damaged Everything in life happens for a reason |
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by Dive Jedi on Jul 23, 2019 11:03:30 GMT 1, Yeah, agree with Ger.
Keep the piece. Destroying it for 1500 seems quite a waste.
Unless you REALLY need the money. But I think there will be some members that
would buy it for that / or close to that in this condition.
If it's only the wood, try to fix it. Or have it restored by a professional woodworker.
Or.... ask Pejac. You never know…..
Yeah, agree with Ger.
Keep the piece. Destroying it for 1500 seems quite a waste.
Unless you REALLY need the money. But I think there will be some members that
would buy it for that / or close to that in this condition.
If it's only the wood, try to fix it. Or have it restored by a professional woodworker.
Or.... ask Pejac. You never know…..
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by Matt on Jul 23, 2019 11:07:50 GMT 1, Dude the boat is broken in half.
That thing is worthless
Dude the boat is broken in half.
That thing is worthless
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by dustinb on Jul 23, 2019 11:25:48 GMT 1, Such a nice piece, what a pity
Such a nice piece, what a pity
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by Lifestyle 710 on Jul 23, 2019 11:46:20 GMT 1, Thanks for sharing. Interesting outcome.
Thanks for sharing. Interesting outcome.
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by stelio on Jul 23, 2019 11:56:58 GMT 1, It appears just to be the base/stand?. Glue it back together, no biggie. Problem solved. Like it never happened.
It appears just to be the base/stand?. Glue it back together, no biggie. Problem solved. Like it never happened.
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by chichi carter on Jul 23, 2019 12:33:09 GMT 1, I would definitely go with the option of getting half of the cash, keeping the piece and fixing the stand. And if you're not much of a handy man, just find a carpenter (or a cabinet builder) that has the right glue, nail gun, clamps, etc. He (or she) will put that back together for you in no time. Looking at the pictures it doesn't even look broken. It just looks like part of the stand came unglued. Unless the pieces of wood were rattling in the box and made all sorts of scratches on the bottle that are not visible in the pics, this fix shouldn't even affect the value of the piece. Anyway, I say keep it and fix it!
I would definitely go with the option of getting half of the cash, keeping the piece and fixing the stand. And if you're not much of a handy man, just find a carpenter (or a cabinet builder) that has the right glue, nail gun, clamps, etc. He (or she) will put that back together for you in no time. Looking at the pictures it doesn't even look broken. It just looks like part of the stand came unglued. Unless the pieces of wood were rattling in the box and made all sorts of scratches on the bottle that are not visible in the pics, this fix shouldn't even affect the value of the piece. Anyway, I say keep it and fix it!
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by The Italian One on Jul 23, 2019 14:06:09 GMT 1, I ended up on keeping it, I insured it for 4k and I will get 2k back plus they will refund shipping.
there are also some scratches but really those are unnoticeable, my girlfriend studied restoration so she will handle the care needed. will post photos.
I think the most important think was to save art from demolition.
I ended up on keeping it, I insured it for 4k and I will get 2k back plus they will refund shipping.
there are also some scratches but really those are unnoticeable, my girlfriend studied restoration so she will handle the care needed. will post photos.
I think the most important think was to save art from demolition.
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by The Italian One on Jul 23, 2019 14:11:14 GMT 1, Agree with all the other comments. But it sounds like this is a rare, demonstrable data point of a courier honouring the insurance in an acceptable way when shipping overseas. If ever I have anything of value to ship then I'll definitely keep DHL in mind after this story.
Agree with all the other comments. But it sounds like this is a rare, demonstrable data point of a courier honouring the insurance in an acceptable way when shipping overseas. If ever I have anything of value to ship then I'll definitely keep DHL in mind after this story. yes they did well to me, good communication and they helped me with all the paper needed |
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by stelio on Jul 23, 2019 14:21:53 GMT 1, I ended up on keeping it, I insured it for 4k and I will get 2k back plus they will refund shipping. there are also some scratches but really those are unnoticeable, my girlfriend studied restoration so she will handle the care needed. will post photos. I think the most important think was to save art from demolition.
Yahtzee! Man... you came out great then. 2k back for just a base that came unglued... amazing! Such a easy and simple fix for you.
FYI all the bottles have some scratches on them, not just yours. So no worry there.
I ended up on keeping it, I insured it for 4k and I will get 2k back plus they will refund shipping. there are also some scratches but really those are unnoticeable, my girlfriend studied restoration so she will handle the care needed. will post photos. I think the most important think was to save art from demolition. Yahtzee! Man... you came out great then. 2k back for just a base that came unglued... amazing! Such a easy and simple fix for you. FYI all the bottles have some scratches on them, not just yours. So no worry there. |
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by The Italian One on Jul 23, 2019 14:28:36 GMT 1, I ended up on keeping it, I insured it for 4k and I will get 2k back plus they will refund shipping. there are also some scratches but really those are unnoticeable, my girlfriend studied restoration so she will handle the care needed. will post photos. I think the most important think was to save art from demolition. Yahtzee! Man... you came out great then. 2k back for just a base that came unglued... amazing! Such a easy and simple fix for you. FYI all the bottles have some scratches on them, not just yours. So no worry there.
I ended up on keeping it, I insured it for 4k and I will get 2k back plus they will refund shipping. there are also some scratches but really those are unnoticeable, my girlfriend studied restoration so she will handle the care needed. will post photos. I think the most important think was to save art from demolition. Yahtzee! Man... you came out great then. 2k back for just a base that came unglued... amazing! Such a easy and simple fix for you. FYI all the bottles have some scratches on them, not just yours. So no worry there. good to hear that.... thanks |
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by met on Jul 23, 2019 16:05:32 GMT 1, This is a big problem with these customs people. Over the years i have often spent 4 hours packing a painting for them to come along open it and spend 10 mins repacking it. Sorry to see this happen but you might look back in years to come and thank your lucky stars it was damaged Everything in life happens for a reason
Indeed. It comes down to relationships, between events and things:
- action and reaction;
- cause and effect; and/or
- decisions and consequences.
We're able to look back and figure out why something happened. To identify the reason(s).
And, hopefully, learn — with a view to being better prepared and applying this knowledge going forward.
My only issue with the above expression is when it's used to suggest fate, predetermination, or other similar notions that seek to absolve us from our individual and collective responsibilities.
This is a big problem with these customs people. Over the years i have often spent 4 hours packing a painting for them to come along open it and spend 10 mins repacking it. Sorry to see this happen but you might look back in years to come and thank your lucky stars it was damaged Everything in life happens for a reason Indeed. It comes down to relationships, between events and things: - action and reaction; - cause and effect; and/or - decisions and consequences. We're able to look back and figure out why something happened. To identify the reason(s). And, hopefully, learn — with a view to being better prepared and applying this knowledge going forward. My only issue with the above expression is when it's used to suggest fate, predetermination, or other similar notions that seek to absolve us from our individual and collective responsibilities. |
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by dustinb on Jul 23, 2019 16:12:08 GMT 1, I ended up on keeping it, I insured it for 4k and I will get 2k back plus they will refund shipping. there are also some scratches but really those are unnoticeable, my girlfriend studied restoration so she will handle the care needed. will post photos. I think the most important think was to save art from demolition.
I ended up on keeping it, I insured it for 4k and I will get 2k back plus they will refund shipping. there are also some scratches but really those are unnoticeable, my girlfriend studied restoration so she will handle the care needed. will post photos. I think the most important think was to save art from demolition. Good to know |
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by kevincd on Jul 23, 2019 16:46:17 GMT 1, I ended up on keeping it, I insured it for 4k and I will get 2k back plus they will refund shipping. there are also some scratches but really those are unnoticeable, my girlfriend studied restoration so she will handle the care needed. will post photos. I think the most important think was to save art from demolition. Yahtzee! Man... you came out great then. 2k back for just a base that came unglued... amazing! Such a easy and simple fix for you. FYI all the bottles have some scratches on them, not just yours. So no worry there.
I ended up on keeping it, I insured it for 4k and I will get 2k back plus they will refund shipping. there are also some scratches but really those are unnoticeable, my girlfriend studied restoration so she will handle the care needed. will post photos. I think the most important think was to save art from demolition. Yahtzee! Man... you came out great then. 2k back for just a base that came unglued... amazing! Such a easy and simple fix for you. FYI all the bottles have some scratches on them, not just yours. So no worry there. Agree, the fix should not be difficult |
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by irl1 on Jul 23, 2019 16:58:23 GMT 1, This is a big problem with these customs people. Over the years i have often spent 4 hours packing a painting for them to come along open it and spend 10 mins repacking it. Sorry to see this happen but you might look back in years to come and thank your lucky stars it was damaged Everything in life happens for a reason Indeed. It comes down to relationships, between events and things: - action and reaction; - cause and effect; and/or - decisions and consequences. We're able to look back and figure out why something happened. To identify the reason(s). And, hopefully, learn — with a view to being better prepared and applying this knowledge going forward. My only issue with the above expression is when it's used to suggest fate, predetermination, or other similar notions that seek to absolve us from our individual and collective responsibilities.
Without going into it one crazy (bad) thing happened in my life and if it "didn't" happen i would not have met my wife or have my children.
I can laugh at it now but back then ............  So ........
This is a big problem with these customs people. Over the years i have often spent 4 hours packing a painting for them to come along open it and spend 10 mins repacking it. Sorry to see this happen but you might look back in years to come and thank your lucky stars it was damaged Everything in life happens for a reason Indeed. It comes down to relationships, between events and things: - action and reaction; - cause and effect; and/or - decisions and consequences. We're able to look back and figure out why something happened. To identify the reason(s). And, hopefully, learn — with a view to being better prepared and applying this knowledge going forward. My only issue with the above expression is when it's used to suggest fate, predetermination, or other similar notions that seek to absolve us from our individual and collective responsibilities. Agreed met. I always find anything we call "bad" or whatever that happens in life happens for a reason. Without going into it one crazy (bad) thing happened in my life and if it "didn't" happen i would not have met my wife or have my children. I can laugh at it now but back then ............ So ........ |
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by Dive Jedi on Jul 23, 2019 17:24:28 GMT 1, Indeed. It comes down to relationships, between events and things: - action and reaction; - cause and effect; and/or - decisions and consequences. We're able to look back and figure out why something happened. To identify the reason(s). And, hopefully, learn — with a view to being better prepared and applying this knowledge going forward. My only issue with the above expression is when it's used to suggest fate, predetermination, or other similar notions that seek to absolve us from our individual and collective responsibilities. Agreed met. I always find anything we call "bad" or whatever that happens in life happens for a reason. Without going into it one crazy (bad) thing happened in my life and if it "didn't" happen i would not have met my wife or have my children. I can laugh at it now but back then ............ So ........
It's okay to appreciate the bad thing, since it led to new things.
But "things happen for a reason" is total BS.
Shit happens. It's how you deal with it.
Indeed. It comes down to relationships, between events and things: - action and reaction; - cause and effect; and/or - decisions and consequences. We're able to look back and figure out why something happened. To identify the reason(s). And, hopefully, learn — with a view to being better prepared and applying this knowledge going forward. My only issue with the above expression is when it's used to suggest fate, predetermination, or other similar notions that seek to absolve us from our individual and collective responsibilities. Agreed met. I always find anything we call "bad" or whatever that happens in life happens for a reason. Without going into it one crazy (bad) thing happened in my life and if it "didn't" happen i would not have met my wife or have my children. I can laugh at it now but back then ............ So ........ I think this is exactly what Met did NOT agree with you. It's okay to appreciate the bad thing, since it led to new things. But "things happen for a reason" is total BS. Shit happens. It's how you deal with it. |
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by Coach on Jul 23, 2019 17:26:55 GMT 1, Agreed met. I always find anything we call "bad" or whatever that happens in life happens for a reason. Without going into it one crazy (bad) thing happened in my life and if it "didn't" happen i would not have met my wife or have my children. I can laugh at it now but back then ............ So ........ I think this is exactly what Met did NOT agree with you. It's okay to appreciate the bad thing, since it led to new things. But "things happen for a reason" is total BS. Shit happens. It's how you deal with it.
...and learn from it.
Agreed met. I always find anything we call "bad" or whatever that happens in life happens for a reason. Without going into it one crazy (bad) thing happened in my life and if it "didn't" happen i would not have met my wife or have my children. I can laugh at it now but back then ............ So ........ I think this is exactly what Met did NOT agree with you. It's okay to appreciate the bad thing, since it led to new things. But "things happen for a reason" is total BS. Shit happens. It's how you deal with it. ...and learn from it. |
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by Wearology on Jul 23, 2019 17:28:24 GMT 1, Indeed. It comes down to relationships, between events and things: - action and reaction; - cause and effect; and/or - decisions and consequences. We're able to look back and figure out why something happened. To identify the reason(s). And, hopefully, learn — with a view to being better prepared and applying this knowledge going forward. My only issue with the above expression is when it's used to suggest fate, predetermination, or other similar notions that seek to absolve us from our individual and collective responsibilities. Agreed met. I always find anything we call "bad" or whatever that happens in life happens for a reason. Without going into it one crazy (bad) thing happened in my life and if it "didn't" happen i would not have met my wife or have my children. I can laugh at it now but back then ............ So ........
This one has been traveling with me for a few days from Complexcon in Chicago to the airport and than on a plane to Pittsburgh and than on another plane to NYC. We have bonded. The key is to pack it as if they may ask to have it checked in the luggage compartment.
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Indeed. It comes down to relationships, between events and things: - action and reaction; - cause and effect; and/or - decisions and consequences. We're able to look back and figure out why something happened. To identify the reason(s). And, hopefully, learn — with a view to being better prepared and applying this knowledge going forward. My only issue with the above expression is when it's used to suggest fate, predetermination, or other similar notions that seek to absolve us from our individual and collective responsibilities. Agreed met. I always find anything we call "bad" or whatever that happens in life happens for a reason. Without going into it one crazy (bad) thing happened in my life and if it "didn't" happen i would not have met my wife or have my children. I can laugh at it now but back then ............ So ........ Every piece of art has a story. This one has been traveling with me for a few days from Complexcon in Chicago to the airport and than on a plane to Pittsburgh and than on another plane to NYC. We have bonded. The key is to pack it as if they may ask to have it checked in the luggage compartment. image upload |
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by Guy Denning on Jul 24, 2019 0:08:30 GMT 1, I think the key thing is to contact the artist first. Ask Pejac and keep copies of communication with the artwork as part of whatever its future history will be. If the artist is happy with the outcome then who can complain?
I think the key thing is to contact the artist first. Ask Pejac and keep copies of communication with the artwork as part of whatever its future history will be. If the artist is happy with the outcome then who can complain?
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by 19818914 on Jul 24, 2019 2:15:32 GMT 1, If you fix the base you have to sign it and date. This is standard practice with repairs.
If you fix the base you have to sign it and date. This is standard practice with repairs.
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PEJAC SCULPTURE BEEN DAMAGED, by ca on Jul 24, 2019 2:23:49 GMT 1, wah, id say you should almost look at this as you coming on top. I would of never imagined a shipping company coming correct so smoothly on something like this.
wah, id say you should almost look at this as you coming on top. I would of never imagined a shipping company coming correct so smoothly on something like this.
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And you still have it... once glued together you won't see the damage.
So ........ 
