Chris JL
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Why doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases?, by Chris JL on Aug 16, 2019 9:21:49 GMT 1, Stating the obvious, it is a matter of limited supply relative to demand that generates these issues (and prices). When it comes to prints, I still believe that Shepard Fairey's approach is what maximizes impact on fans and limits issues of scarcity and predatory behavior. Banksy could adopt Obey's approach, but that would come at the cost of losing valuation at auction. With more supply, the subsequent price declines would reduce headlines and limit the visibility of whatever public actions he takes. That has a massive value as well.
True. But a very specific type of creative flow is needed to support that process. I appreciate Fairey along many dimensions, and I agree that he does “please the base,” but sometimes his production feels (to me at least) like it might benefit from a more self-critical filter.
Stating the obvious, it is a matter of limited supply relative to demand that generates these issues (and prices). When it comes to prints, I still believe that Shepard Fairey's approach is what maximizes impact on fans and limits issues of scarcity and predatory behavior. Banksy could adopt Obey's approach, but that would come at the cost of losing valuation at auction. With more supply, the subsequent price declines would reduce headlines and limit the visibility of whatever public actions he takes. That has a massive value as well. True. But a very specific type of creative flow is needed to support that process. I appreciate Fairey along many dimensions, and I agree that he does “please the base,” but sometimes his production feels (to me at least) like it might benefit from a more self-critical filter. |
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Why doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases?, by Fast Eddie on Aug 16, 2019 11:13:44 GMT 1, Stating the obvious, it is a matter of limited supply relative to demand that generates these issues (and prices). When it comes to prints, I still believe that Shepard Fairey's approach is what maximizes impact on fans and limits issues of scarcity and predatory behavior. Banksy could adopt Obey's approach, but that would come at the cost of losing valuation at auction. With more supply, the subsequent price declines would reduce headlines and limit the visibility of whatever public actions he takes. That has a massive value as well. True. But a very specific type of creative flow is needed to support that process. I appreciate Fairey along many dimensions, and I agree that he does “please the base,” but sometimes his production feels (to me at least) like it might benefit from a more self-critical filter.
Stating the obvious, it is a matter of limited supply relative to demand that generates these issues (and prices). When it comes to prints, I still believe that Shepard Fairey's approach is what maximizes impact on fans and limits issues of scarcity and predatory behavior. Banksy could adopt Obey's approach, but that would come at the cost of losing valuation at auction. With more supply, the subsequent price declines would reduce headlines and limit the visibility of whatever public actions he takes. That has a massive value as well. True. But a very specific type of creative flow is needed to support that process. I appreciate Fairey along many dimensions, and I agree that he does “please the base,” but sometimes his production feels (to me at least) like it might benefit from a more self-critical filter. Bear with me, if your worry is the frequency at which each edition is issued, then you can reduce that edition frequency, as long as you proportionately increase each edition size. That achieves the same effect as long as editions are "not too different"... |
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Why doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases?, by Lroy on Aug 16, 2019 11:47:07 GMT 1, Not sure how you see that, if they were over as in dropping in value then i would be able to buy some again lol we are talking print releases not value of prints
I have a screenshot of a new vip print release of the cutter rat that is in Beaubourg, a signed one, but can’t find it in all my mess.
Just saying that yes : Banksy is still making prints.
Not sure how you see that, if they were over as in dropping in value then i would be able to buy some again lol we are talking print releases not value of prints I have a screenshot of a new vip print release of the cutter rat that is in Beaubourg, a signed one, but can’t find it in all my mess. Just saying that yes : Banksy is still making prints. |
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Why doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases?, by Daniel Silk on Aug 16, 2019 13:35:35 GMT 1, People have suggested Banksy is releasing prints secretly.
Why would he do that?
I would have thought as an artist Banksy is all about expressing himself, his views, ideas and messages, that’s surely why him and all Street artists do stuff on the streets, to get seen by as many people as possible. A secret print release sounds like it’s just about making money? Prints that hardly anyone sees? What’s the point of that 🤪
What do you think?
People have suggested Banksy is releasing prints secretly.
Why would he do that?
I would have thought as an artist Banksy is all about expressing himself, his views, ideas and messages, that’s surely why him and all Street artists do stuff on the streets, to get seen by as many people as possible. A secret print release sounds like it’s just about making money? Prints that hardly anyone sees? What’s the point of that 🤪
What do you think?
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Why doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases?, by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 14:45:57 GMT 1, Banksy loves print releases. Banksy still releases prints every year. Banksy loves eating popcorn.
Banksy loves print releases. Banksy still releases prints every year. Banksy loves eating popcorn. Is Bongo back? |
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Carl Cashman
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Why doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases?, by Carl Cashman on Aug 16, 2019 16:31:15 GMT 1, With all this chat, walled off products have been being sold for ages... sculptures or a box set so there are works of art that people can buy if they desire.
With all this chat, walled off products have been being sold for ages... sculptures or a box set so there are works of art that people can buy if they desire.
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Why doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases?, by Fast Eddie on Aug 16, 2019 16:53:51 GMT 1, With all this chat, walled off products have been being sold for ages... sculptures or a box set so there are works of art that people can buy if they desire.
With all this chat, walled off products have been being sold for ages... sculptures or a box set so there are works of art that people can buy if they desire. Yeah, but those are After Banksy... |
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Why doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases?, by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 17:08:45 GMT 1, With all this chat, walled off products have been being sold for ages... sculptures or a box set so there are works of art that people can buy if they desire.
Yes, but as you can see by the 'lack of' discussions on them there is no fun in it if people cannot profit
The collector likes the box sets the sculptures and the posters. thats a minority here.
the rest want profit
that's ok, nothing dirty about profit
Just saying how it is
With all this chat, walled off products have been being sold for ages... sculptures or a box set so there are works of art that people can buy if they desire. Yes, but as you can see by the 'lack of' discussions on them there is no fun in it if people cannot profit The collector likes the box sets the sculptures and the posters. thats a minority here. the rest want profit that's ok, nothing dirty about profit Just saying how it is |
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Why doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases?, by Lroy on Aug 16, 2019 22:52:18 GMT 1, The Anchor is stunning !
High price ( 20 k no ? )
But it could be considered as a print release.
So Banksy still wants to create prints, sculptures or posters for sale.
The Anchor is stunning !
High price ( 20 k no ? )
But it could be considered as a print release.
So Banksy still wants to create prints, sculptures or posters for sale.
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tab1
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Why doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases?, by tab1 on Aug 17, 2019 4:10:35 GMT 1, With all this chat, walled off products have been being sold for ages... sculptures or a box set so there are works of art that people can buy if they desire. Yes, but as you can see by the 'lack of' discussions on them there is no fun in it if people cannot profit The collector likes the box sets the sculptures and the posters. thats a minority here. the rest want profit that's ok, nothing dirty about profit Just saying how it is
most news stories still found on the internet discussed the worth of prints.
the box sets when they first came out was a rush to buy as the thought of them rising more, plenty of nice art sculptures from the woh but lack of interest from the highs now as it's worth has fallen and it's unlimited.
even main prints takes weeks now to sell whereas few years ago even if overpriced would sell within 1-3 days.
the latest print a few people thought as soon as coa were released would be £30k .so many people have bought and invested in banksy at high prices so the market won't crash but buyers will be more cautious now
With all this chat, walled off products have been being sold for ages... sculptures or a box set so there are works of art that people can buy if they desire. Yes, but as you can see by the 'lack of' discussions on them there is no fun in it if people cannot profit The collector likes the box sets the sculptures and the posters. thats a minority here. the rest want profit that's ok, nothing dirty about profit Just saying how it is And unfortunately that what had got the media interested in banksy and propelled his status, the profits of a cheap print selling for thousands of pounds.read all old posts on this forum , all people talked about were profit margins and should they sell now or next year. most news stories still found on the internet discussed the worth of prints. the box sets when they first came out was a rush to buy as the thought of them rising more, plenty of nice art sculptures from the woh but lack of interest from the highs now as it's worth has fallen and it's unlimited. even main prints takes weeks now to sell whereas few years ago even if overpriced would sell within 1-3 days. the latest print a few people thought as soon as coa were released would be £30k .so many people have bought and invested in banksy at high prices so the market won't crash but buyers will be more cautious now |
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Lazarus II
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Why doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases?, by Lazarus II on Aug 17, 2019 6:14:15 GMT 1, I think if the likes of a signed or unsigned LIITA or LN in good condition with solid provenance came up for sale here they wouldnt be around for long and would still attract a high price. I’m sure that the same applies to a good number of Banksy prints.
I dont follow the sales markets that much and from what i read here it may have softened but i dont think there will be any bargains to be had any time soon.
I think if the likes of a signed or unsigned LIITA or LN in good condition with solid provenance came up for sale here they wouldnt be around for long and would still attract a high price. I’m sure that the same applies to a good number of Banksy prints.
I dont follow the sales markets that much and from what i read here it may have softened but i dont think there will be any bargains to be had any time soon.
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Why doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases?, by Charlesworth on Aug 17, 2019 7:27:36 GMT 1, The Anchor is stunning ! High price ( 20 k no ? ) But it could be considered as a print release. So Banksy still wants to create prints, sculptures or posters for sale.
Anchor or grappling hook? 
The Anchor is stunning ! High price ( 20 k no ? ) But it could be considered as a print release. So Banksy still wants to create prints, sculptures or posters for sale. Anchor or grappling hook? |
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Why doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases?, by nex on Aug 17, 2019 8:29:58 GMT 1, Okay. So what happened was ‘physical’ print releases got very difficult and this place became the mouthpiece for discontent. However, banksy released prints via lotteries and these went smoothly. So I’d suggest rather than the physical releases causing an end to this, he just moved on.
He doesn’t need the cash, he doesn’t need the bother, but and this a big but who knows what he’ll do next. There’ll be other prints, there have been further prints.
I miss them though, they were great days and great memories and the excitement at the time was something quite special.
Okay. So what happened was ‘physical’ print releases got very difficult and this place became the mouthpiece for discontent. However, banksy released prints via lotteries and these went smoothly. So I’d suggest rather than the physical releases causing an end to this, he just moved on.
He doesn’t need the cash, he doesn’t need the bother, but and this a big but who knows what he’ll do next. There’ll be other prints, there have been further prints.
I miss them though, they were great days and great memories and the excitement at the time was something quite special.
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Why doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases?, by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 11:02:32 GMT 1, Why do you think doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases anymore? I was looking back over the old Banksy Print Release Threads, and how things started to get very difficult for POW to handle those online sales. Do you think Banksy isn’t doing Print Releases now as he got just too pissed off with how crazy things were getting or was it about controlling his market by moving into canvases more? I just wonder if the releases back then were done differently and it’s was all going easy, would Banksy have carried on releasing 2 or 3 prints every year. what do you think?
As most have mentioned the CYW queue was a total shit show. The VIP gold/silver email went out and then everyone was running back and forth between Covent Garden and Commercial Rd. The heavies turned up and pushed to the front. Very difficult to manage but POW did their best. They became a commodity. Bought, flipped. 2006 was the tipping point and you could make a couple of grand on a signed print and people did. eBay was ripe for the picking. Lotteries are indeed far better and allow POW to an extent to get them into the right homes. I’m still impressed by the small number of Sale Ends on the secondary. I’m sure they will go down this line with the new venture soon. POW do continue to sell VIP prints and have done for years. Banksy certainly likes to take his time and often these sit on the shelf for years at their office. Often sold to fund ventures it would seem. Which is great. Some brilliant variations on classic prints.
Why do you think doesn’t Banksy Love Print Releases anymore? I was looking back over the old Banksy Print Release Threads, and how things started to get very difficult for POW to handle those online sales. Do you think Banksy isn’t doing Print Releases now as he got just too pissed off with how crazy things were getting or was it about controlling his market by moving into canvases more? I just wonder if the releases back then were done differently and it’s was all going easy, would Banksy have carried on releasing 2 or 3 prints every year. what do you think? As most have mentioned the CYW queue was a total shit show. The VIP gold/silver email went out and then everyone was running back and forth between Covent Garden and Commercial Rd. The heavies turned up and pushed to the front. Very difficult to manage but POW did their best. They became a commodity. Bought, flipped. 2006 was the tipping point and you could make a couple of grand on a signed print and people did. eBay was ripe for the picking. Lotteries are indeed far better and allow POW to an extent to get them into the right homes. I’m still impressed by the small number of Sale Ends on the secondary. I’m sure they will go down this line with the new venture soon. POW do continue to sell VIP prints and have done for years. Banksy certainly likes to take his time and often these sit on the shelf for years at their office. Often sold to fund ventures it would seem. Which is great. Some brilliant variations on classic prints. |
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