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New Harland Millers , by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 12:37:05 GMT 1, Ok. This is just a personal request.
Please, please don't buy the new Harland Millers (actually just re-released) prints. They will be announced very very soon or some may have already been told about them.
These are the same old prints with just hand variations on them. Do Not Spend 35,000 - 40,000 Euros on this. Don't do it. Please can we stop allowing galleries to do this!
If his originals actually sold, or sold for record prices, I could somewhat understand this but... they don't. Simple as that. His last show flopped, so hard, they are trying to make up the money by selling overpriced prints. This is a clear sign of the poor art market and what galleries are trying to do to keep a float during these times.
Prints are the biggest money makers for them; since they are overpriced sucker pieces during these downturns. Be careful with overpriced prints this year. This is the only way these galleries are surviving right now; by selling extremely overpriced prints since originals simply are not selling.
If you spend 35,000 + on a harland miller PRINT... you should be kicked in the balls by your kids.
Ok. This is just a personal request.
Please, please don't buy the new Harland Millers (actually just re-released) prints. They will be announced very very soon or some may have already been told about them.
These are the same old prints with just hand variations on them. Do Not Spend 35,000 - 40,000 Euros on this. Don't do it. Please can we stop allowing galleries to do this!
If his originals actually sold, or sold for record prices, I could somewhat understand this but... they don't. Simple as that. His last show flopped, so hard, they are trying to make up the money by selling overpriced prints. This is a clear sign of the poor art market and what galleries are trying to do to keep a float during these times.
Prints are the biggest money makers for them; since they are overpriced sucker pieces during these downturns. Be careful with overpriced prints this year. This is the only way these galleries are surviving right now; by selling extremely overpriced prints since originals simply are not selling.
If you spend 35,000 + on a harland miller PRINT... you should be kicked in the balls by your kids.
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New Harland Millers , by irl1 on Aug 22, 2019 12:41:22 GMT 1, Ok. This is just a personal request. Please, please don't buy the new Harland Millers (actually just re-released) prints. They will be announced very very soon or some may have already been told about them. These are the same old prints with just hand variations on them. Do Not Spend 30,000 Euros on this. Don't do it. Please can we stop allowing galleries to do this! If his originals actually sold or sold for record prices I could somewhat understand this but... they don't. Simple as that. His last show flopped so hard they are trying to make up the money through overpriced prints. This is a clear sign of the poor art market and what galleries are trying to do keep a float during these times. Prints are the biggest money makers for them since they are overpriced sucker pieces during these down turns. Be careful with overpriced prints this year. This the only way these galleries are surviving right now is extremely overprice prints since originals simply are not selling right now. If you spend 30,000 on a harland miller PRINT... you should be kicked in the balls by your kids. 
Ok. This is just a personal request. Please, please don't buy the new Harland Millers (actually just re-released) prints. They will be announced very very soon or some may have already been told about them. These are the same old prints with just hand variations on them. Do Not Spend 30,000 Euros on this. Don't do it. Please can we stop allowing galleries to do this! If his originals actually sold or sold for record prices I could somewhat understand this but... they don't. Simple as that. His last show flopped so hard they are trying to make up the money through overpriced prints. This is a clear sign of the poor art market and what galleries are trying to do keep a float during these times. Prints are the biggest money makers for them since they are overpriced sucker pieces during these down turns. Be careful with overpriced prints this year. This the only way these galleries are surviving right now is extremely overprice prints since originals simply are not selling right now. If you spend 30,000 on a harland miller PRINT... you should be kicked in the balls by your kids. You need big balls to pay 30k for this |
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New Harland Millers , by iamzero on Aug 22, 2019 12:41:31 GMT 1, The last line alone gets my vote for this being the post of the year.
The last line alone gets my vote for this being the post of the year.
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New Harland Millers , by teabaggins on Aug 22, 2019 12:55:25 GMT 1, Ok.ย This is just a personal request. Please, please don't buy the new Harland Millers (actually just re-released) prints. They will be announced very very soon or some may have already been told about them.ย These are the same old prints with just hand variations on them. Do Not Spend 30,000 Euros on this. Don't do it. Please can we stop allowing galleries to do this! If his originals actually sold, or sold for record prices, I could somewhat understand this but... they don't. Simple as that. His last show flopped, so hard, they are trying to make up the money by selling overpriced prints. This is a clear sign of the poor art market and what galleries are trying to do to keep a float during these times.ย Prints are the biggest money makers for them; since they are overpriced sucker pieces during these downturns. Be careful with overpriced prints this year. This is the only way these galleries are surviving right now; by selling extremely overpriced prints since originals simply are not selling. If you spend 30,000 on a harland miller PRINT... you should be kicked in the balls by your kids. ย
While I agree that 30k for a print is a objectively a bit bonkers you also appear to have something against HM work specifically as this is your second long rant about his HK show.
In speaking with the man himself a few weeks back you appear to be creating some misconceptions about the show in HK for some reason. The artist as well as the gallery seem to be under the impression that the majority of the show sold at the preview. As Iโve had a long time personal relationship with both I canโt imagine why either would be untruthful about it....
Ok.ย This is just a personal request. Please, please don't buy the new Harland Millers (actually just re-released) prints. They will be announced very very soon or some may have already been told about them.ย These are the same old prints with just hand variations on them. Do Not Spend 30,000 Euros on this. Don't do it. Please can we stop allowing galleries to do this! If his originals actually sold, or sold for record prices, I could somewhat understand this but... they don't. Simple as that. His last show flopped, so hard, they are trying to make up the money by selling overpriced prints. This is a clear sign of the poor art market and what galleries are trying to do to keep a float during these times.ย Prints are the biggest money makers for them; since they are overpriced sucker pieces during these downturns. Be careful with overpriced prints this year. This is the only way these galleries are surviving right now; by selling extremely overpriced prints since originals simply are not selling. If you spend 30,000 on a harland miller PRINT... you should be kicked in the balls by your kids. ย While I agree that 30k for a print is a objectively a bit bonkers you also appear to have something against HM work specifically as this is your second long rant about his HK show. In speaking with the man himself a few weeks back you appear to be creating some misconceptions about the show in HK for some reason. The artist as well as the gallery seem to be under the impression that the majority of the show sold at the preview. As Iโve had a long time personal relationship with both I canโt imagine why either would be untruthful about it.... |
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New Harland Millers , by Winks on Aug 22, 2019 12:55:39 GMT 1, I regularly do anyway.
Itโs like living with Kato ๐ฅ
I regularly do anyway.
Itโs like living with Kato ๐ฅ
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New Harland Millers , by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 13:10:36 GMT 1, I say let the art market and auction results answer all your questions not a gallery or artist.
If the art market is game for 35,000-40,000 euro Harland Miller prints right now... Then fantastic. Great for him and the gallery. They probably still will sell out and while I'm just ranting... promoting 35,000 dollar prints during this time to me is... just silly.
If you purchase the print show a photo. I'm sure it's stunning.
And I was wrong... It's 35,000 starting not 30,000.
If you believe in him and believe the value of his prints are worth this then I say go and buy it. Probably better than buying bitcoin... or is it....
I say let the art market and auction results answer all your questions not a gallery or artist.
If the art market is game for 35,000-40,000 euro Harland Miller prints right now... Then fantastic. Great for him and the gallery. They probably still will sell out and while I'm just ranting... promoting 35,000 dollar prints during this time to me is... just silly.
If you purchase the print show a photo. I'm sure it's stunning.
And I was wrong... It's 35,000 starting not 30,000.
If you believe in him and believe the value of his prints are worth this then I say go and buy it. Probably better than buying bitcoin... or is it....
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New Harland Millers , by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 13:13:55 GMT 1, Ok.ย This is just a personal request. Please, please don't buy the new Harland Millers (actually just re-released) prints. They will be announced very very soon or some may have already been told about them.ย These are the same old prints with just hand variations on them. Do Not Spend 35,000 - 40,000 Euros on this. Don't do it. Please can we stop allowing galleries to do this! If his originals actually sold, or sold for record prices, I could somewhat understand this but... they don't. Simple as that. His last show flopped, so hard, they are trying to make up the money by selling overpriced prints. This is a clear sign of the poor art market and what galleries are trying to do to keep a float during these times.ย Prints are the biggest money makers for them; since they are overpriced sucker pieces during these downturns. Be careful with overpriced prints this year. This is the only way these galleries are surviving right now; by selling extremely overpriced prints since originals simply are not selling. If you spend 35,000 + on a harland miller PRINT... you should be kicked in the balls by your kids. ย
Has there been 30k prints primary? By anyone?
Ok.ย This is just a personal request. Please, please don't buy the new Harland Millers (actually just re-released) prints. They will be announced very very soon or some may have already been told about them.ย These are the same old prints with just hand variations on them. Do Not Spend 35,000 - 40,000 Euros on this. Don't do it. Please can we stop allowing galleries to do this! If his originals actually sold, or sold for record prices, I could somewhat understand this but... they don't. Simple as that. His last show flopped, so hard, they are trying to make up the money by selling overpriced prints. This is a clear sign of the poor art market and what galleries are trying to do to keep a float during these times.ย Prints are the biggest money makers for them; since they are overpriced sucker pieces during these downturns. Be careful with overpriced prints this year. This is the only way these galleries are surviving right now; by selling extremely overpriced prints since originals simply are not selling. If you spend 35,000 + on a harland miller PRINT... you should be kicked in the balls by your kids. ย Has there been 30k prints primary? By anyone? |
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New Harland Millers , by sircoxson on Aug 22, 2019 13:15:13 GMT 1, interesting...which images are being re-released?
also, 35k in usd, euro or gbp?
interesting...which images are being re-released?
also, 35k in usd, euro or gbp?
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New Harland Millers , by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 13:17:12 GMT 1, I apologize, I messed up the price.
Starting is 35,000 GBP not 30,000...
I'm now priced out... bummer.
Hope they look amazing in person.
I apologize, I messed up the price.
Starting is 35,000 GBP not 30,000...
I'm now priced out... bummer.
Hope they look amazing in person.
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New Harland Millers , by irl1 on Aug 22, 2019 13:34:50 GMT 1, Ok. This is just a personal request. Please, please don't buy the new Harland Millers (actually just re-released) prints. They will be announced very very soon or some may have already been told about them. These are the same old prints with just hand variations on them. Do Not Spend 35,000 - 40,000 Euros on this. Don't do it. Please can we stop allowing galleries to do this! If his originals actually sold, or sold for record prices, I could somewhat understand this but... they don't. Simple as that. His last show flopped, so hard, they are trying to make up the money by selling overpriced prints. This is a clear sign of the poor art market and what galleries are trying to do to keep a float during these times. Prints are the biggest money makers for them; since they are overpriced sucker pieces during these downturns. Be careful with overpriced prints this year. This is the only way these galleries are surviving right now; by selling extremely overpriced prints since originals simply are not selling. If you spend 35,000 + on a harland miller PRINT... you should be kicked in the balls by your kids. Has there been 30k prints primary? By anyone?
Ok. This is just a personal request. Please, please don't buy the new Harland Millers (actually just re-released) prints. They will be announced very very soon or some may have already been told about them. These are the same old prints with just hand variations on them. Do Not Spend 35,000 - 40,000 Euros on this. Don't do it. Please can we stop allowing galleries to do this! If his originals actually sold, or sold for record prices, I could somewhat understand this but... they don't. Simple as that. His last show flopped, so hard, they are trying to make up the money by selling overpriced prints. This is a clear sign of the poor art market and what galleries are trying to do to keep a float during these times. Prints are the biggest money makers for them; since they are overpriced sucker pieces during these downturns. Be careful with overpriced prints this year. This is the only way these galleries are surviving right now; by selling extremely overpriced prints since originals simply are not selling. If you spend 35,000 + on a harland miller PRINT... you should be kicked in the balls by your kids. Has there been 30k prints primary? By anyone? Estate of Jean Michel Basquiat |
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New Harland Millers , by Winks on Aug 22, 2019 14:04:51 GMT 1, I apologize, I messed up the price.ย Starting is 35,000 GBP not 30,000... I'm now priced out... bummer.ย Hope they look amazing in person.ย
This is a bit confusing
I apologize, I messed up the price.ย Starting is 35,000 GBP not 30,000... I'm now priced out... bummer.ย Hope they look amazing in person.ย This is a bit confusing |
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New Harland Millers , by Lazarus II on Aug 22, 2019 14:19:15 GMT 1, I regularly do anyway. Itโs like living with Kato ๐ฅ
i dont have a Kato, i just step out of line on here then wait for the big blooter in the gonads.
I regularly do anyway. Itโs like living with Kato ๐ฅ i dont have a Kato, i just step out of line on here then wait for the big blooter in the gonads. |
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New Harland Millers , by teabaggins on Aug 22, 2019 14:37:32 GMT 1, I say let the art market and auction results answer all your questions not a gallery or artist. If the art market is game for 35,000-40,000 euro Harland Miller prints right now... Then fantastic. Great for him and the gallery. They probably still will sell out and while I'm just ranting... promoting 35,000 dollar prints during this time to me is... just silly.ย If you purchase the print show a photo. I'm sure it's stunning.ย And I was wrong... It's 35,000 starting not 30,000.ย If you believe in him and believe the value of his prints are worth this then I say go and buy it. Probably better than buying bitcoin... or is it....ย
I personally have no intention of purchasing the print or promoting it in any form. Just addressing your statement of his HK show โflopping...so hardโ as you put it. This seems nothing more than conjecture. While this is the internet and it is now accepted to pass along opinions as facts the actual facts from credible sources do also sometimes help a bit. Now...will credible facts stop people from believing what they want to believe? Sadly...we know that answer all too well.
Also.. in total agreement that there are most likely much more rewarding things in life to do with 35k
I say let the art market and auction results answer all your questions not a gallery or artist. If the art market is game for 35,000-40,000 euro Harland Miller prints right now... Then fantastic. Great for him and the gallery. They probably still will sell out and while I'm just ranting... promoting 35,000 dollar prints during this time to me is... just silly.ย If you purchase the print show a photo. I'm sure it's stunning.ย And I was wrong... It's 35,000 starting not 30,000.ย If you believe in him and believe the value of his prints are worth this then I say go and buy it. Probably better than buying bitcoin... or is it....ย I personally have no intention of purchasing the print or promoting it in any form. Just addressing your statement of his HK show โflopping...so hardโ as you put it. This seems nothing more than conjecture. While this is the internet and it is now accepted to pass along opinions as facts the actual facts from credible sources do also sometimes help a bit. Now...will credible facts stop people from believing what they want to believe? Sadly...we know that answer all too well. Also.. in total agreement that there are most likely much more rewarding things in life to do with 35k |
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New Harland Millers , by Sundowner on Aug 22, 2019 22:25:50 GMT 1, Would be interested to know what these ยฃ35k prints are. This seems a bit of random and a desperate post - have White Cube blacklisted you?
Would be interested to know what these ยฃ35k prints are. This seems a bit of random and a desperate post - have White Cube blacklisted you?
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New Harland Millers , by campfire headphase on Aug 23, 2019 14:21:40 GMT 1, Iโm sure there are forum members trying to sell Harland prints here privately for ยฃ35k. Why the boycott against galleries? Just ignore them. No need to boycott. They need to make a profit like every business. Theyโre not charity organizations. Shouldnโt we also be talking smack about UAA members creating multiple profiles to create speculation and also talk up prices to absurd levels?
Iโm sure there are forum members trying to sell Harland prints here privately for ยฃ35k. Why the boycott against galleries? Just ignore them. No need to boycott. They need to make a profit like every business. Theyโre not charity organizations. Shouldnโt we also be talking smack about UAA members creating multiple profiles to create speculation and also talk up prices to absurd levels?
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New Harland Millers , by kuni on Aug 23, 2019 14:28:56 GMT 1, With 35k you could literally help 20 aspiring artists pay their studio rent for a month by purchasing an original canvas.
With 35k you could literally help 20 aspiring artists pay their studio rent for a month by purchasing an original canvas.
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New Harland Millers , by sgolby on Aug 23, 2019 15:15:24 GMT 1, I sold my who cares wins to a gallery last week for 20k usd. I should say it was the smaller format.
I sold my who cares wins to a gallery last week for 20k usd. I should say it was the smaller format.
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New Harland Millers , by campfire headphase on Aug 24, 2019 14:24:55 GMT 1, I sold my who cares wins to a gallery last week for 20k usd.ย I should say it was the smaller format.
Guy Hepner Gallery? They sent me an email around the same time. The ask was like... $48k. Theyโre the worst.
I sold my who cares wins to a gallery last week for 20k usd.ย I should say it was the smaller format. Guy Hepner Gallery? They sent me an email around the same time. The ask was like... $48k. Theyโre the worst. |
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New Harland Millers , by campfire headphase on Aug 24, 2019 14:25:34 GMT 1, With 35k you could literally help 20 aspiring artists pay their studio rent for a month by purchasing an original canvas.
Susumu Kamijo is a good one.
With 35k you could literally help 20 aspiring artists pay their studio rent for a month by purchasing an original canvas. Susumu Kamijo is a good one. |
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New Harland Millers , by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 14:52:21 GMT 1, With 35k you could literally help 20 aspiring artists pay their studio rent for a month by purchasing an original canvas. Susumu Kamijo is a good one.
Just had a look cheers
Good seeing new artists.
This guy's art does not float my boat
But who the fuck am I :-)
With 35k you could literally help 20 aspiring artists pay their studio rent for a month by purchasing an original canvas. Susumu Kamijo is a good one. Just had a look cheers Good seeing new artists. This guy's art does not float my boat But who the fuck am I :-) |
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New Harland Millers , by campfire headphase on Aug 24, 2019 15:04:10 GMT 1, Susumu Kamijo is a good one. Just had a look cheers Good seeing new artists. This guy's art does not float my boat But who the f**kam I :-)
Right now, Susumu Kamijo, Aaron garber Maikovska, Austin Lee, Jake Longstreth, Koichi Sato and a few others are stirring up some momentum.
Susumu Kamijo is a good one. Just had a look cheers Good seeing new artists. This guy's art does not float my boat But who the f**kam I :-) Right now, Susumu Kamijo, Aaron garber Maikovska, Austin Lee, Jake Longstreth, Koichi Sato and a few others are stirring up some momentum. |
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