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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by Man from Castle on Nov 1, 2024 17:13:31 GMT 1, You have to register in your name in my opinion:
if you want to sell it the new buyer could have serious doubts if the print is not in your name as well as an auction house.
You can check if the work is authentic and safe
if will stole will be faster for you to contact the PC as the real owner with a lot of time saving
Last but not least, if i buy a banksy i wont to be the owner!!!
I do not understand the problem of spending 45 £ after having spent at least 10,000...
You have to register in your name in my opinion:
if you want to sell it the new buyer could have serious doubts if the print is not in your name as well as an auction house.
You can check if the work is authentic and safe
if will stole will be faster for you to contact the PC as the real owner with a lot of time saving
Last but not least, if i buy a banksy i wont to be the owner!!!
I do not understand the problem of spending 45 £ after having spent at least 10,000...
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by LJCal on Nov 2, 2024 11:01:10 GMT 1, Hi Friends, I recently purchased a Banksy with PC COA, I was told to register as new owner. I was wondering if you guys did that and is it necessary? Do I really wanna pay the fee and maybe not hear back, wait a year? Any advice is more than appreciated
Hi Friends, I recently purchased a Banksy with PC COA, I was told to register as new owner. I was wondering if you guys did that and is it necessary? Do I really wanna pay the fee and maybe not hear back, wait a year? Any advice is more than appreciated It’s a waste of time. No one does check before you buy on a print, no seller is willing to wait 6 months to maybe get a reply from PCO, and in most cases hear nothing back. If it’s a canvas worth £300k+ then maybe, some institutions who pay good money will make it a condition of sale, most of these have an inside connection to PCO and for these type of works they tend to be more responsive, but still can take months. For me with check before you not really functioning there is very little benefit to register a print in your name, it only really benefits PCO in fees and data. The COA in and of itself is good enough for 9 out of 10 buyers. |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by My Name is Frank on Nov 2, 2024 11:34:14 GMT 1, If you are keeping it, whats the problem waiting months for the change? If you ever need to sell down the line, being the registered owner would help and some people do use the keep it real service, I would be concerned if I did that the print was not in your name, caveat emptor and all that. Seems a no brainer?
If you are keeping it, whats the problem waiting months for the change? If you ever need to sell down the line, being the registered owner would help and some people do use the keep it real service, I would be concerned if I did that the print was not in your name, caveat emptor and all that. Seems a no brainer?
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by Londown 01 on Nov 2, 2024 12:42:22 GMT 1, I would be concerned if I did that the print was not in your name, caveat emptor and all that
If you're buying from somebody who is not the registered owner, doesn't that create problems for the provenance of the work and, down the line, problems with PC?
I would be concerned if I did that the print was not in your name, caveat emptor and all that If you're buying from somebody who is not the registered owner, doesn't that create problems for the provenance of the work and, down the line, problems with PC? |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by mojo on Nov 2, 2024 12:52:28 GMT 1, I'd definitely register a change of ownership and would be suspicious of any buyer or seller that didn't want to do that. Would you buy a car from someone and leave it in their name? If for any reason you had to claim on insurance at any point in the future it would look a bit odd if the item you were claiming for isn't even registered to you.
I'd definitely register a change of ownership and would be suspicious of any buyer or seller that didn't want to do that. Would you buy a car from someone and leave it in their name? If for any reason you had to claim on insurance at any point in the future it would look a bit odd if the item you were claiming for isn't even registered to you.
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by Minecrafter on Nov 2, 2024 14:26:44 GMT 1, I'd definitely register a change of ownership and would be suspicious of any buyer or seller that didn't want to do that. Would you buy a car from someone and leave it in their name? If for any reason you had to claim on insurance at any point in the future it would look a bit odd if the item you were claiming for isn't even registered to you.
it suits your pockets to say that doesn't it , Miss Brooks?
I'd definitely register a change of ownership and would be suspicious of any buyer or seller that didn't want to do that. Would you buy a car from someone and leave it in their name? If for any reason you had to claim on insurance at any point in the future it would look a bit odd if the item you were claiming for isn't even registered to you. it suits your pockets to say that doesn't it , Miss Brooks? |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by mojo on Nov 2, 2024 14:35:54 GMT 1, Looks like its Groundhog Day again. YAWN.
Looks like its Groundhog Day again. YAWN.
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by LJCal on Nov 2, 2024 14:43:11 GMT 1, I would be concerned if I did that the print was not in your name, caveat emptor and all that If you're buying from somebody who is not the registered owner, doesn't that create problems for the provenance of the work and, down the line, problems with PC?
I would be concerned if I did that the print was not in your name, caveat emptor and all that If you're buying from somebody who is not the registered owner, doesn't that create problems for the provenance of the work and, down the line, problems with PC? No |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by LJCal on Nov 2, 2024 14:54:50 GMT 1, I'd definitely register a change of ownership and would be suspicious of any buyer or seller that didn't want to do that. Would you buy a car from someone and leave it in their name? If for any reason you had to claim on insurance at any point in the future it would look a bit odd if the item you were claiming for isn't even registered to you.
The only time I would consider it an advantage is if you have a big collection (that you don’t trade much) and aren’t on pest’s primary list, then you may want to let them know what you hold to try and get on the nice list. That’s never going to happen for me.
I'd definitely register a change of ownership and would be suspicious of any buyer or seller that didn't want to do that. Would you buy a car from someone and leave it in their name? If for any reason you had to claim on insurance at any point in the future it would look a bit odd if the item you were claiming for isn't even registered to you. But registering a car with the DVLA is a statutory requirement, you’re comparing apples with Copenhagen. As long as the person you buy from has a clear title the work is yours once you pay the agreed price in full, pure and simple, registering it with the artist’s studio is not necessary in any legal sense, if it were 99% of the artwork in circulation would have a problem. By most people’s standards I’ve bought and sold quite a few Banksy’s and never once has a work being in a previous owners‘ name caused a problem, I had a situation a few months back where someone made a check before you buy on a print I’d long sold and pest simply contacted me to check Id sold it on and establish the provenance trail. The only time I would consider it an advantage is if you have a big collection (that you don’t trade much) and aren’t on pest’s primary list, then you may want to let them know what you hold to try and get on the nice list. That’s never going to happen for me. |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by hdduyddfj on Nov 2, 2024 15:21:02 GMT 1, I'd definitely register a change of ownership and would be suspicious of any buyer or seller that didn't want to do that. Would you buy a car from someone and leave it in their name? If for any reason you had to claim on insurance at any point in the future it would look a bit odd if the item you were claiming for isn't even registered to you.
The ideas brilliant, the execution is bloody awful. If they're not embarrassed they should be.
Spend £45 or don't, makes very little difference.
I'd definitely register a change of ownership and would be suspicious of any buyer or seller that didn't want to do that. Would you buy a car from someone and leave it in their name? If for any reason you had to claim on insurance at any point in the future it would look a bit odd if the item you were claiming for isn't even registered to you. The point being missed for whatever reason is that it's a great idea if PC wasn't shit at communication. It's no problem waiting months to register a work hanging on your wall, what happens when you go to sell and the buyer wants to check it's registered and PC don't reply for months. When you decide to sell a work you don't want or can't wait months for a reply. Buyers don't want to wait months, once they've agreed a price it's theirs in their head, they want to hang it. A lot of buyers will get bored and finding something else. The ideas brilliant, the execution is bloody awful. If they're not embarrassed they should be. Spend £45 or don't, makes very little difference. |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by mojo on Nov 2, 2024 15:37:00 GMT 1, I'd definitely register a change of ownership and would be suspicious of any buyer or seller that didn't want to do that. Would you buy a car from someone and leave it in their name? If for any reason you had to claim on insurance at any point in the future it would look a bit odd if the item you were claiming for isn't even registered to you. But registering a car with the DVLA is a statutory requirement, you’re comparing apples with Copenhagen. As long as the person you buy from has a clear title the work is yours once you pay the agreed price in full, pure and simple, registering it with the artist’s studio is not necessary in any legal sense, if it were 99% of the artwork in circulation would have a problem. By most people’s standards I’ve bought and sold quite a few Banksy’s and never once has a work being in a previous owners‘ name caused a problem, I had a situation a few months back where someone made a check before you buy on a print I’d long sold and pest simply contacted me to check Id sold it on and establish the provenance trail. The only time I would consider it an advantage is if you a big collection (that you don’t trade much) and aren’t on pest’s primary list, then you may want to let them know what you hold to try and get on the nice list. That’s never going to happen for me.
I'd definitely register a change of ownership and would be suspicious of any buyer or seller that didn't want to do that. Would you buy a car from someone and leave it in their name? If for any reason you had to claim on insurance at any point in the future it would look a bit odd if the item you were claiming for isn't even registered to you. But registering a car with the DVLA is a statutory requirement, you’re comparing apples with Copenhagen. As long as the person you buy from has a clear title the work is yours once you pay the agreed price in full, pure and simple, registering it with the artist’s studio is not necessary in any legal sense, if it were 99% of the artwork in circulation would have a problem. By most people’s standards I’ve bought and sold quite a few Banksy’s and never once has a work being in a previous owners‘ name caused a problem, I had a situation a few months back where someone made a check before you buy on a print I’d long sold and pest simply contacted me to check Id sold it on and establish the provenance trail. The only time I would consider it an advantage is if you a big collection (that you don’t trade much) and aren’t on pest’s primary list, then you may want to let them know what you hold to try and get on the nice list. That’s never going to happen for me. I appreciate if you are buying & selling for a quick turnover checking provanance can seem like a hassle. However nowadays when people are spending many £thousands I'd definitely want some kind of guarentee I was buying the genuine article and where it had come from. Any decent auction house will not only require a COA but proof of photo ID like a passport along with an official proof of address for their records...that go back hundreds of years. It just makes sense to me to registar it, why wouldn't you? 45 quid is not even the price of a round of drinks, why risk it? |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by Devizes /\_/\ on Nov 2, 2024 15:47:03 GMT 1, But registering a car with the DVLA is a statutory requirement, you’re comparing apples with Copenhagen. As long as the person you buy from has a clear title the work is yours once you pay the agreed price in full, pure and simple, registering it with the artist’s studio is not necessary in any legal sense, if it were 99% of the artwork in circulation would have a problem. By most people’s standards I’ve bought and sold quite a few Banksy’s and never once has a work being in a previous owners‘ name caused a problem, I had a situation a few months back where someone made a check before you buy on a print I’d long sold and pest simply contacted me to check Id sold it on and establish the provenance trail. The only time I would consider it an advantage is if you a big collection (that you don’t trade much) and aren’t on pest’s primary list, then you may want to let them know what you hold to try and get on the nice list. That’s never going to happen for me. I appreciate if you are buying & selling for a quick turnover checking provanance can seem like a hassle. However nowadays when people are spending many £thousands I'd definitely want some kind of guarentee I was buying the genuine article and where it had come from. Any decent auction house will not only require a COA but proof of photo ID like a passport along with an official proof of address for their records...that go back hundreds of years. It just makes sense to me to registar it, why wouldn't you? 45 quid is not even the price of a round of drinks, why risk it?
The reason as stated by others are the unacceptable timescales.
Doesn’t matter if you’re a flipper or a first time buyer from an owner who’s had it a few years, neither wants to play a waiting game on whether or not PC will be arsed to a knowledge and carry out the task you’ve paid them for, for what? 6 months? 12 months? 18 months? It’s absolutely pathetic and unacceptable.
But registering a car with the DVLA is a statutory requirement, you’re comparing apples with Copenhagen. As long as the person you buy from has a clear title the work is yours once you pay the agreed price in full, pure and simple, registering it with the artist’s studio is not necessary in any legal sense, if it were 99% of the artwork in circulation would have a problem. By most people’s standards I’ve bought and sold quite a few Banksy’s and never once has a work being in a previous owners‘ name caused a problem, I had a situation a few months back where someone made a check before you buy on a print I’d long sold and pest simply contacted me to check Id sold it on and establish the provenance trail. The only time I would consider it an advantage is if you a big collection (that you don’t trade much) and aren’t on pest’s primary list, then you may want to let them know what you hold to try and get on the nice list. That’s never going to happen for me. I appreciate if you are buying & selling for a quick turnover checking provanance can seem like a hassle. However nowadays when people are spending many £thousands I'd definitely want some kind of guarentee I was buying the genuine article and where it had come from. Any decent auction house will not only require a COA but proof of photo ID like a passport along with an official proof of address for their records...that go back hundreds of years. It just makes sense to me to registar it, why wouldn't you? 45 quid is not even the price of a round of drinks, why risk it? Sorry Mojo but you seem to be avoiding the main reason people can’t be bothered. The reason as stated by others are the unacceptable timescales. Doesn’t matter if you’re a flipper or a first time buyer from an owner who’s had it a few years, neither wants to play a waiting game on whether or not PC will be arsed to a knowledge and carry out the task you’ve paid them for, for what? 6 months? 12 months? 18 months? It’s absolutely pathetic and unacceptable. |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by The Italian One on Nov 2, 2024 15:51:46 GMT 1, once you register your print for "change of ownership" will you get confirmation from PC?
once you register your print for "change of ownership" will you get confirmation from PC?
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by hdduyddfj on Nov 2, 2024 16:00:38 GMT 1, once you register your print for "change of ownership" will you get confirmation from PC?
once you register your print for "change of ownership" will you get confirmation from PC? Depends what way the winds blowing |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by lukas01 on Nov 2, 2024 16:00:43 GMT 1, I wonder if this machine also has an issued authentication certificate.
Great piece!... I would like to see the interior decorated! 😎
https://www.instagram.com/p/C_cWJTfRTx1
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by mojo on Nov 2, 2024 16:05:09 GMT 1, I appreciate if you are buying & selling for a quick turnover checking provanance can seem like a hassle. However nowadays when people are spending many £thousands I'd definitely want some kind of guarentee I was buying the genuine article and where it had come from. Any decent auction house will not only require a COA but proof of photo ID like a passport along with an official proof of address for their records...that go back hundreds of years. It just makes sense to me to registar it, why wouldn't you? 45 quid is not even the price of a round of drinks, why risk it? Sorry Mojo but you seem to be avoiding the main reason people can’t be bothered. The reason as stated by others are the unacceptable timescales. Doesn’t matter if you’re a flipper or a first time buyer from an owner who’s had it a few years, neither wants to play a waiting game on whether or not PC will be arsed to a knowledge and carry out the task you’ve paid them for, for what? 6 months? 12 months? 18 months? It’s absolutely pathetic and unacceptable.  and I have stuff to do today... but I still maintain that it is better to register any work than to not bother. It may eventually make the system a lot faster and would definitely safeguard the buyer. You can buy reasonably safely with a COA and register afterwards.
I appreciate if you are buying & selling for a quick turnover checking provanance can seem like a hassle. However nowadays when people are spending many £thousands I'd definitely want some kind of guarentee I was buying the genuine article and where it had come from. Any decent auction house will not only require a COA but proof of photo ID like a passport along with an official proof of address for their records...that go back hundreds of years. It just makes sense to me to registar it, why wouldn't you? 45 quid is not even the price of a round of drinks, why risk it? Sorry Mojo but you seem to be avoiding the main reason people can’t be bothered. The reason as stated by others are the unacceptable timescales. Doesn’t matter if you’re a flipper or a first time buyer from an owner who’s had it a few years, neither wants to play a waiting game on whether or not PC will be arsed to a knowledge and carry out the task you’ve paid them for, for what? 6 months? 12 months? 18 months? It’s absolutely pathetic and unacceptable. I sort of regret wading in on this now as the only dealings I've had with any sort of pest control recently was to clean up a load of pigeon shit from my balcony and I have stuff to do today... but I still maintain that it is better to register any work than to not bother. It may eventually make the system a lot faster and would definitely safeguard the buyer. You can buy reasonably safely with a COA and register afterwards. |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by The Italian One on Nov 2, 2024 16:18:59 GMT 1, I always did and always will!
the only reason to not register change of ownership is if you are a dealer or gallery
I always did and always will!
the only reason to not register change of ownership is if you are a dealer or gallery
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by hdduyddfj on Nov 2, 2024 16:21:49 GMT 1, Sorry Mojo but you seem to be avoiding the main reason people can’t be bothered. The reason as stated by others are the unacceptable timescales. Doesn’t matter if you’re a flipper or a first time buyer from an owner who’s had it a few years, neither wants to play a waiting game on whether or not PC will be arsed to a knowledge and carry out the task you’ve paid them for, for what? 6 months? 12 months? 18 months? It’s absolutely pathetic and unacceptable. I sort of regret wading in on this now as the only dealings I've had with pest control recently was to clean up a load of pigeon shit from my balcony and I have stuff to do today... but I still maintain that it is better to register any work than to not bother. It may eventually make the system a lot faster and would definitely safeguard the buyer.
It could be fixed if he/they cared enough. It gives the impression he/they don't buy it dragging on for years.
Sorry Mojo but you seem to be avoiding the main reason people can’t be bothered. The reason as stated by others are the unacceptable timescales. Doesn’t matter if you’re a flipper or a first time buyer from an owner who’s had it a few years, neither wants to play a waiting game on whether or not PC will be arsed to a knowledge and carry out the task you’ve paid them for, for what? 6 months? 12 months? 18 months? It’s absolutely pathetic and unacceptable. I sort of regret wading in on this now as the only dealings I've had with pest control recently was to clean up a load of pigeon shit from my balcony and I have stuff to do today... but I still maintain that it is better to register any work than to not bother. It may eventually make the system a lot faster and would definitely safeguard the buyer. At these levels it's very much an investment to the majority of people. It's uncomfortable and not that attractive an option for putting money when it could be an unknown timescale to be able to release your money if you have to wait for PC to reply. That's before you even try to sell it. What a headache. It could be fixed if he/they cared enough. It gives the impression he/they don't buy it dragging on for years. |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by mojo on Nov 2, 2024 16:26:32 GMT 1, I sort of regret wading in on this now as the only dealings I've had with pest control recently was to clean up a load of pigeon shit from my balcony and I have stuff to do today... but I still maintain that it is better to register any work than to not bother. It may eventually make the system a lot faster and would definitely safeguard the buyer. At these levels it's very much an investment to the majority of people. It's uncomfortable and not that attractive an option for putting money when it could be an unknown timescale to be able to release your money if you have to wait for PC to reply. That's before you even try to sell it. What a headache. It could be fixed if he/they cared enough. It gives the impression he/they don't buy it dragging on for years.
I really do have to go out now, have a good weekend.
I sort of regret wading in on this now as the only dealings I've had with pest control recently was to clean up a load of pigeon shit from my balcony and I have stuff to do today... but I still maintain that it is better to register any work than to not bother. It may eventually make the system a lot faster and would definitely safeguard the buyer. At these levels it's very much an investment to the majority of people. It's uncomfortable and not that attractive an option for putting money when it could be an unknown timescale to be able to release your money if you have to wait for PC to reply. That's before you even try to sell it. What a headache. It could be fixed if he/they cared enough. It gives the impression he/they don't buy it dragging on for years. If you are buying with COA and have trust/rapport with the seller you just register it in your name once you have it in hand or alternatively buy/sell through a reputable auction house. I really do have to go out now, have a good weekend. |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by hdduyddfj on Nov 2, 2024 16:33:10 GMT 1, At these levels it's very much an investment to the majority of people. It's uncomfortable and not that attractive an option for putting money when it could be an unknown timescale to be able to release your money if you have to wait for PC to reply. That's before you even try to sell it. What a headache. It could be fixed if he/they cared enough. It gives the impression he/they don't buy it dragging on for years. If you are buying with COA and have trust/rapport with the seller you just register it in your name once you have it in hand or go through a reputable auction house. I really do have to go out now have a good weekend.
Enjoy your weekend 👍
At these levels it's very much an investment to the majority of people. It's uncomfortable and not that attractive an option for putting money when it could be an unknown timescale to be able to release your money if you have to wait for PC to reply. That's before you even try to sell it. What a headache. It could be fixed if he/they cared enough. It gives the impression he/they don't buy it dragging on for years. If you are buying with COA and have trust/rapport with the seller you just register it in your name once you have it in hand or go through a reputable auction house. I really do have to go out now have a good weekend. I'll not keeping repeating, when someone wants to sell and the buyer wants confirmation from PC the timescale for reply is unknown. It doesn't make sense anymore. Enjoy your weekend 👍 |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by lukas01 on Nov 2, 2024 16:37:14 GMT 1, I'm always amazed when I read posts about Pest Control.
But are those 'kids' making fun of me at this point? Am I the only one who occasionally sends him emails to see if a work is original or fake?
He replies to me no later than 30 or at most 40 days.
This thing is getting weird! If you don't have originals and you want a response from them, you will get it within 40 days!... I would like to wait a few months and receive good news from them and not the other way around! 😂🤣
I'm always amazed when I read posts about Pest Control.
But are those 'kids' making fun of me at this point? Am I the only one who occasionally sends him emails to see if a work is original or fake?
He replies to me no later than 30 or at most 40 days.
This thing is getting weird! If you don't have originals and you want a response from them, you will get it within 40 days!... I would like to wait a few months and receive good news from them and not the other way around! 😂🤣
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by loui on Nov 2, 2024 18:46:21 GMT 1, I'm always amazed when I read posts about Pest Control. But are those 'kids' making fun of me at this point? Am I the only one who occasionally sends him emails to see if a work is original or fake? He replies to me no later than 30 or at most 40 days. This thing is getting weird! If you don't have originals and you want a response from them, you will get it within 40 days!... I would like to wait a few months and receive good news from them and not the other way around! 😂🤣
I’m always amazed someone like Robin G and Holly C could be friends with someone like Roger Gastman. Steve L, okay, he’s the guy who can be influenced a bit easy perhaps (and I’m glad he’s taken the road to finally say goodbye to Banksy, ) but Holly Cushing, she seems a friendly lady and Gunningham seems to have some interest in the world that’s bigger than himself, but Gastman? That just seems an ego with no care of others at all. Dismaland was Banksys ode to the UK TM said; how could you relate something like that to some egos behaviour 🙄 Let me say it this way Lukas, I don’t think egos like gastman with all their influence are going to save this world. On the contrary. They’re probably in the trump square. Very merry banksy to you too 🫡
I'm always amazed when I read posts about Pest Control. But are those 'kids' making fun of me at this point? Am I the only one who occasionally sends him emails to see if a work is original or fake? He replies to me no later than 30 or at most 40 days. This thing is getting weird! If you don't have originals and you want a response from them, you will get it within 40 days!... I would like to wait a few months and receive good news from them and not the other way around! 😂🤣 I’m always amazed someone like Robin G and Holly C could be friends with someone like Roger Gastman. Steve L, okay, he’s the guy who can be influenced a bit easy perhaps (and I’m glad he’s taken the road to finally say goodbye to Banksy, ) but Holly Cushing, she seems a friendly lady and Gunningham seems to have some interest in the world that’s bigger than himself, but Gastman? That just seems an ego with no care of others at all. Dismaland was Banksys ode to the UK TM said; how could you relate something like that to some egos behaviour 🙄 Let me say it this way Lukas, I don’t think egos like gastman with all their influence are going to save this world. On the contrary. They’re probably in the trump square. Very merry banksy to you too 🫡 |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by LJCal on Nov 2, 2024 20:39:18 GMT 1, But registering a car with the DVLA is a statutory requirement, you’re comparing apples with Copenhagen. As long as the person you buy from has a clear title the work is yours once you pay the agreed price in full, pure and simple, registering it with the artist’s studio is not necessary in any legal sense, if it were 99% of the artwork in circulation would have a problem. By most people’s standards I’ve bought and sold quite a few Banksy’s and never once has a work being in a previous owners‘ name caused a problem, I had a situation a few months back where someone made a check before you buy on a print I’d long sold and pest simply contacted me to check Id sold it on and establish the provenance trail. The only time I would consider it an advantage is if you a big collection (that you don’t trade much) and aren’t on pest’s primary list, then you may want to let them know what you hold to try and get on the nice list. That’s never going to happen for me. I appreciate if you are buying & selling for a quick turnover checking provanance can seem like a hassle. However nowadays when people are spending many £thousands I'd definitely want some kind of guarentee I was buying the genuine article and where it had come from. Any decent auction house will not only require a COA but proof of photo ID like a passport along with an official proof of address for their records...that go back hundreds of years. It just makes sense to me to registar it, why wouldn't you? 45 quid is not even the price of a round of drinks, why risk it?
As others have eluded to if the check before you buy service worked I would agree the £45 may be worth it but it doesn’t, so it isn’t.
But registering a car with the DVLA is a statutory requirement, you’re comparing apples with Copenhagen. As long as the person you buy from has a clear title the work is yours once you pay the agreed price in full, pure and simple, registering it with the artist’s studio is not necessary in any legal sense, if it were 99% of the artwork in circulation would have a problem. By most people’s standards I’ve bought and sold quite a few Banksy’s and never once has a work being in a previous owners‘ name caused a problem, I had a situation a few months back where someone made a check before you buy on a print I’d long sold and pest simply contacted me to check Id sold it on and establish the provenance trail. The only time I would consider it an advantage is if you a big collection (that you don’t trade much) and aren’t on pest’s primary list, then you may want to let them know what you hold to try and get on the nice list. That’s never going to happen for me. I appreciate if you are buying & selling for a quick turnover checking provanance can seem like a hassle. However nowadays when people are spending many £thousands I'd definitely want some kind of guarentee I was buying the genuine article and where it had come from. Any decent auction house will not only require a COA but proof of photo ID like a passport along with an official proof of address for their records...that go back hundreds of years. It just makes sense to me to registar it, why wouldn't you? 45 quid is not even the price of a round of drinks, why risk it? The point is there is no risk, risk of what? With regards to auction houses that’s not true, you can take a print to Sothebys, Christie’s, Tate Ward, Forum, Phillips and Bonhams without a COA and not registered in your name and they’ll happily sell it (assuming it’s legit). Likewise you can take a print not registered in your name but with COA to pretty much every gallery and dealer and they’ll sell it for you, MyArtBroker, Hang-Up, Maddox, Lougher Contemporary, Taglialatella, me and pretty much every other person I know. £45 may not be much for one print, but if I spend money I like to know that it serves a purpose, and I’m not just pissing it down the drain. At a point in my life I owned about 35 Banksy works with COAs at one time, I may have owned more than a hundred plus over my lifetime as a collector. I wasn’t convinced then and I’m not now it’s worth having spent thousands of pounds and dealing with endless admin for something that for the last 6 years adds no value and isn’t necessary. As others have eluded to if the check before you buy service worked I would agree the £45 may be worth it but it doesn’t, so it isn’t. |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by KaL976 on Nov 3, 2024 11:31:21 GMT 1, I've been waiting for over two years now after they requested more pictures for works Dora had already confirmed were genuine before PC existed.
I've been waiting for over two years now after they requested more pictures for works Dora had already confirmed were genuine before PC existed.
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by mojo on Nov 3, 2024 22:42:44 GMT 1, I appreciate if you are buying & selling for a quick turnover checking provanance can seem like a hassle. However nowadays when people are spending many £thousands I'd definitely want some kind of guarentee I was buying the genuine article and where it had come from. Any decent auction house will not only require a COA but proof of photo ID like a passport along with an official proof of address for their records...that go back hundreds of years. It just makes sense to me to registar it, why wouldn't you? 45 quid is not even the price of a round of drinks, why risk it? The point is there is no risk, risk of what? With regards to auction houses that’s not true, you can take a print to Sothebys, Christie’s, Tate Ward, Forum, Phillips and Bonhams without a COA and not registered in your name and they’ll happily sell it (assuming it’s legit). Likewise you can take a print not registered in your name but with COA to pretty much every gallery and dealer and they’ll sell it for you, MyArtBroker, Hang-Up, Maddox, Lougher Contemporary, Taglialatella, me and pretty much every other person I know. £45 may not be much for one print, but if I spend money I like to know that it serves a purpose, and I’m not just pissing it down the drain. At a point in my life I owned about 35 Banksy works with COAs at one time, I may have owned more than a hundred plus over my lifetime as a collector. I wasn’t convinced then and I’m not now it’s worth having spent thousands of pounds and dealing with endless admin for something that for the last 6 years adds no value and isn’t necessary. As others have eluded to if the check before you buy service worked I would agree the £45 may be worth it but it doesn’t, so it isn’t.
There is really no point in starting an argument with me about it...ughmarco can either take my advice or not it makes no difference to me.
Peace & out.
I appreciate if you are buying & selling for a quick turnover checking provanance can seem like a hassle. However nowadays when people are spending many £thousands I'd definitely want some kind of guarentee I was buying the genuine article and where it had come from. Any decent auction house will not only require a COA but proof of photo ID like a passport along with an official proof of address for their records...that go back hundreds of years. It just makes sense to me to registar it, why wouldn't you? 45 quid is not even the price of a round of drinks, why risk it? The point is there is no risk, risk of what? With regards to auction houses that’s not true, you can take a print to Sothebys, Christie’s, Tate Ward, Forum, Phillips and Bonhams without a COA and not registered in your name and they’ll happily sell it (assuming it’s legit). Likewise you can take a print not registered in your name but with COA to pretty much every gallery and dealer and they’ll sell it for you, MyArtBroker, Hang-Up, Maddox, Lougher Contemporary, Taglialatella, me and pretty much every other person I know. £45 may not be much for one print, but if I spend money I like to know that it serves a purpose, and I’m not just pissing it down the drain. At a point in my life I owned about 35 Banksy works with COAs at one time, I may have owned more than a hundred plus over my lifetime as a collector. I wasn’t convinced then and I’m not now it’s worth having spent thousands of pounds and dealing with endless admin for something that for the last 6 years adds no value and isn’t necessary. As others have eluded to if the check before you buy service worked I would agree the £45 may be worth it but it doesn’t, so it isn’t. Thing is I was only replying to a post by ughmarco asking for advice on if they should register a print they have already purchased with a COA. I didn't mention anything about a check before you buy service in my initial reply and neither did they. I find it confusing that you would advise them not to bother registering it while also complaining that PC take too long to check provenance since registering it along with the COA is proof of provenance. Just for clarity, as I have a feeling a few people on here think I work for Pest Control, I don't and never have. It was just what I considered friendly useful advice to a person asking...no more no less. There is really no point in starting an argument with me about it...ughmarco can either take my advice or not it makes no difference to me. Peace & out. |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by LJCal on Nov 3, 2024 22:47:56 GMT 1, The point is there is no risk, risk of what? With regards to auction houses that’s not true, you can take a print to Sothebys, Christie’s, Tate Ward, Forum, Phillips and Bonhams without a COA and not registered in your name and they’ll happily sell it (assuming it’s legit). Likewise you can take a print not registered in your name but with COA to pretty much every gallery and dealer and they’ll sell it for you, MyArtBroker, Hang-Up, Maddox, Lougher Contemporary, Taglialatella, me and pretty much every other person I know. £45 may not be much for one print, but if I spend money I like to know that it serves a purpose, and I’m not just pissing it down the drain. At a point in my life I owned about 35 Banksy works with COAs at one time, I may have owned more than a hundred plus over my lifetime as a collector. I wasn’t convinced then and I’m not now it’s worth having spent thousands of pounds and dealing with endless admin for something that for the last 6 years adds no value and isn’t necessary. As others have eluded to if the check before you buy service worked I would agree the £45 may be worth it but it doesn’t, so it isn’t. Thing is I was only replying to a post by ughmarco asking for advice on if they should register a print they have already purchased with a COA. I didn't mention anything about a check before you buy service in my initial reply and neither did they. I find it confusing that you would advise them not to bother registering it while also complaining that PC take too long to check provenance since registering it along with the COA is proof of provenance. Just for clarity, as I have a feeling a few people on here think I work for Pest Control, I don't and never have. It was just what I considered friendly useful advice to a person asking...no more no less. There is really no point in starting an argument with me about it...ughmarco can either take my advice or not it makes no difference to me. Peace & out.
The point is there is no risk, risk of what? With regards to auction houses that’s not true, you can take a print to Sothebys, Christie’s, Tate Ward, Forum, Phillips and Bonhams without a COA and not registered in your name and they’ll happily sell it (assuming it’s legit). Likewise you can take a print not registered in your name but with COA to pretty much every gallery and dealer and they’ll sell it for you, MyArtBroker, Hang-Up, Maddox, Lougher Contemporary, Taglialatella, me and pretty much every other person I know. £45 may not be much for one print, but if I spend money I like to know that it serves a purpose, and I’m not just pissing it down the drain. At a point in my life I owned about 35 Banksy works with COAs at one time, I may have owned more than a hundred plus over my lifetime as a collector. I wasn’t convinced then and I’m not now it’s worth having spent thousands of pounds and dealing with endless admin for something that for the last 6 years adds no value and isn’t necessary. As others have eluded to if the check before you buy service worked I would agree the £45 may be worth it but it doesn’t, so it isn’t. Thing is I was only replying to a post by ughmarco asking for advice on if they should register a print they have already purchased with a COA. I didn't mention anything about a check before you buy service in my initial reply and neither did they. I find it confusing that you would advise them not to bother registering it while also complaining that PC take too long to check provenance since registering it along with the COA is proof of provenance. Just for clarity, as I have a feeling a few people on here think I work for Pest Control, I don't and never have. It was just what I considered friendly useful advice to a person asking...no more no less. There is really no point in starting an argument with me about it...ughmarco can either take my advice or not it makes no difference to me. Peace & out. Likewise, but the thing with advice it’s good to hear both sides of the argument. It’s up to each individual which they find more convincing or suited to their particular situation. |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by ughmarco on Nov 4, 2024 1:04:42 GMT 1, Thx guys! Every comment is appreciated
I was mostly looking for an explanation wether on the long run it would affect me having it under my name or not if I have provenance and pc coa!
With that said it looks beautiful on my wall and will for sure cherish for long time!!
Thx guys! Every comment is appreciated
I was mostly looking for an explanation wether on the long run it would affect me having it under my name or not if I have provenance and pc coa!
With that said it looks beautiful on my wall and will for sure cherish for long time!!
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by PC Baby on Nov 4, 2024 9:54:17 GMT 1, Do you think any intervention from Banksy would seriously sway the Iranian regime to change their policies on dress code for and treatment of women? I don't suppose they even thank their mothers for being born!
Do you think any intervention from Banksy would seriously sway the Iranian regime to change their policies on dress code for and treatment of women? I don't suppose they even thank their mothers for being born! |
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Pest Control COA • Banksy Print Authentication, by loui on Nov 4, 2024 11:48:17 GMT 1, Do you think any intervention from Banksy would seriously sway the Iranian regime to change their policies on dress code for and treatment of women? I don't suppose they even thank their mothers for being born!
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Banksy has 12 million followers in Instagram so he might as well take some responsibility to create more awareness. I mean, you don’t think he wants all this followers for selling his rather stupid simplistic works at already rich auction houses or do you?
Do you think any intervention from Banksy would seriously sway the Iranian regime to change their policies on dress code for and treatment of women? I don't suppose they even thank their mothers for being born! @pcbaby Banksy has 12 million followers in Instagram so he might as well take some responsibility to create more awareness. I mean, you don’t think he wants all this followers for selling his rather stupid simplistic works at already rich auction houses or do you? |
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and I have stuff to do today... but I still maintain that it is better to register any work than to not bother. It may eventually make the system a lot faster and would definitely safeguard the buyer. You can buy reasonably safely with a COA and register afterwards.
