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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 16:11:48 GMT 1, Banksquait has been sold a couple of times at auction and few privately through galleries for up to c.£150k. The Banksy market overall has increased by 20% historically (aside from last year) so I struggle with the concept that the print will be worth less in the future with a COA than hs already been acheived, as for a start there will be more willing buyers once it is issued and I cannot think of an example where that has happened in any market? The non raffle ones Banksquaits started at over £35k+ so its a different position to Donuts or Sale Ends V2.0, as they already have a premium. But what I do think will happen is the historical prints will catch up and will increase in value more quickly than Banksquait to narrow the gap but there will always be a premium as the market will always resent paying others the large increases in profit for short term holdings! So in the next 12-18 months I would see it being worth £200k+ in the same way I see Donuts being worth £150k and Sale Ends V2.0 over £100k. Just my view as I said!!
Who knows what will happen... no one was prepared for the 2020 explosion, you may be correct with your prediction?
Banksquait has been sold a couple of times at auction and few privately through galleries for up to c.£150k. The Banksy market overall has increased by 20% historically (aside from last year) so I struggle with the concept that the print will be worth less in the future with a COA than hs already been acheived, as for a start there will be more willing buyers once it is issued and I cannot think of an example where that has happened in any market? The non raffle ones Banksquaits started at over £35k+ so its a different position to Donuts or Sale Ends V2.0, as they already have a premium. But what I do think will happen is the historical prints will catch up and will increase in value more quickly than Banksquait to narrow the gap but there will always be a premium as the market will always resent paying others the large increases in profit for short term holdings! So in the next 12-18 months I would see it being worth £200k+ in the same way I see Donuts being worth £150k and Sale Ends V2.0 over £100k. Just my view as I said!! Fair comments. I didn't even know the VIPs existed. Who knows what will happen... no one was prepared for the 2020 explosion, you may be correct with your prediction? |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by gimmeabreak on Feb 12, 2021 16:23:40 GMT 1, banksquiat private sales from source were 20k gbp not 35k gbp...
banksquiat private sales from source were 20k gbp not 35k gbp...
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Dive Jedi on Feb 12, 2021 16:27:43 GMT 1, Banksquait has been sold a couple of times at auction and few privately through galleries for up to c.£150k. The Banksy market overall has increased by 20% historically (aside from last year) so I struggle with the concept that the print will be worth less in the future with a COA than hs already been acheived, as for a start there will be more willing buyers once it is issued and I cannot think of an example where that has happened in any market? The non raffle Banksquaits were priced at over £35k+ so its a different position to Donuts or Sale Ends V2.0, as they have had to pay a big premium to own one. But what I do think will happen is the historical prints will catch up and will increase in value more quickly than Banksquait to narrow the gap but there will always be a premium as the market will always resent paying others the large increases in profit for short term holdings! So in the next 12-18 months I would see it being worth £200k+ in the same way I see Donuts being worth £150k and Sale Ends V2.0 over £100k. Just my view as I said!!
That would be absolutely amazing though.....
Banksquait has been sold a couple of times at auction and few privately through galleries for up to c.£150k. The Banksy market overall has increased by 20% historically (aside from last year) so I struggle with the concept that the print will be worth less in the future with a COA than hs already been acheived, as for a start there will be more willing buyers once it is issued and I cannot think of an example where that has happened in any market? The non raffle Banksquaits were priced at over £35k+ so its a different position to Donuts or Sale Ends V2.0, as they have had to pay a big premium to own one. But what I do think will happen is the historical prints will catch up and will increase in value more quickly than Banksquait to narrow the gap but there will always be a premium as the market will always resent paying others the large increases in profit for short term holdings! So in the next 12-18 months I would see it being worth £200k+ in the same way I see Donuts being worth £150k and Sale Ends V2.0 over £100k. Just my view as I said!! Works for me! That would be absolutely amazing though..... |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by JFCC on Feb 12, 2021 16:38:15 GMT 1, banksquiat private sales from source were 20k gbp not 35k gbp...
banksquiat private sales from source were 20k gbp not 35k gbp... You maybe right, I used £35k as I knew/had been led to believe, that initially in 2019 it was £25k then £35k in 2020 and £40k in 2021. |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by gimmeabreak on Feb 12, 2021 16:39:58 GMT 1, banksquiat private sales from source were 20k gbp not 35k gbp... You maybe right, I used £35k as I knew/had been led to believe, that initially in 2019 it was £25k then £35k in 2020 and £40k in 2021.
banksquiat private sales from source were 20k gbp not 35k gbp... You maybe right, I used £35k as I knew/had been led to believe, that initially in 2019 it was £25k then £35k in 2020 and £40k in 2021. lol again, it was 20k gbp in 2019. either that or my gallery mates did them over one. |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by JFCC on Feb 12, 2021 16:45:11 GMT 1, You maybe right, I used £35k as I knew/had been led to believe, that initially in 2019 it was £25k then £35k in 2020 and £40k in 2021. lol again, it was 20k gbp in 2019. either that or my gallery mates did them over one.
You maybe right, I used £35k as I knew/had been led to believe, that initially in 2019 it was £25k then £35k in 2020 and £40k in 2021. lol again, it was 20k gbp in 2019. either that or my gallery mates did them over one. I don't think so, I think the gallery will have just netted off the introductory fee that will have been available/payable. Most artists pay something to introduce clients, regardless of their following and status! |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by gimmeabreak on Feb 12, 2021 17:22:05 GMT 1, lol again, it was 20k gbp in 2019. either that or my gallery mates did them over one. I don't think so, I think the gallery will have just netted off the introductory fee that will have been available/payable. Most artists pay something to introduce clients, regardless of their following and status!
gallery mates got banksquiat for 20k from source. i know others too. no fee was removed or anythin of the like, and dont reckon anyone who got the banksy private from source was being introduced for the first time
lol again, it was 20k gbp in 2019. either that or my gallery mates did them over one. I don't think so, I think the gallery will have just netted off the introductory fee that will have been available/payable. Most artists pay something to introduce clients, regardless of their following and status! not really sure what ya mean gallery mates got banksquiat for 20k from source. i know others too. no fee was removed or anythin of the like, and dont reckon anyone who got the banksy private from source was being introduced for the first time |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by singerstu on Feb 12, 2021 18:36:42 GMT 1, You maybe right, I used £35k as I knew/had been led to believe, that initially in 2019 it was £25k then £35k in 2020 and £40k in 2021. lol again, it was 20k gbp in 2019. either that or my gallery mates did them over one.
Maybe the difference is VAT that would make sense.
You maybe right, I used £35k as I knew/had been led to believe, that initially in 2019 it was £25k then £35k in 2020 and £40k in 2021. lol again, it was 20k gbp in 2019. either that or my gallery mates did them over one. Maybe the difference is VAT that would make sense. |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by tab1 on Feb 12, 2021 18:48:04 GMT 1, Same as the clown thread regarding prices , how anyone has any idea how the market is going to react when the coa is issued and these come to market ?
with a pandemic effecting all markets
These items will only gauge a real idea of worth after COas are released and a years worth of sales to review.
The initial first few that come to market will mostly be a manipulated sale.
All speculation until then
Same as the clown thread regarding prices , how anyone has any idea how the market is going to react when the coa is issued and these come to market ?
with a pandemic effecting all markets
These items will only gauge a real idea of worth after COas are released and a years worth of sales to review.
The initial first few that come to market will mostly be a manipulated sale.
All speculation until then
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Philpenn on Feb 12, 2021 19:02:11 GMT 1, Thanks all. They are indeed awesome. Now I too feel extra bad for having not been chosen.
Thanks all. They are indeed awesome. Now I too feel extra bad for having not been chosen.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by chefd on Feb 12, 2021 21:41:53 GMT 1, The camera baby carousel was always a favourite of mine. We had a baby girl a couple of weeks ago and have the obligatory camera at the foot of the bed.... makes the GDP piece even better.
Did anyone ever catch glimpse of one in the wild?
The camera baby carousel was always a favourite of mine. We had a baby girl a couple of weeks ago and have the obligatory camera at the foot of the bed.... makes the GDP piece even better.
Did anyone ever catch glimpse of one in the wild?
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by eyectopus on Feb 12, 2021 22:14:20 GMT 1, All images of the Grey Banksquiat appear brown to me instead of grey. I thought this since the first day they were shown on the GDP site and it confused me at the time. Has anyone else noticed this?
All images of the Grey Banksquiat appear brown to me instead of grey. I thought this since the first day they were shown on the GDP site and it confused me at the time. Has anyone else noticed this?
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by chefd on Feb 12, 2021 22:17:35 GMT 1, I've been told by a very reliable source that the VIP GDP sales were at various prices for the same pieces. What one person was offered, and at what price they were offered at, varied from person to person.
Take with a pinch of salt.... but from what I have seen, I'd put a LOT of money on this being true.
I've been told by a very reliable source that the VIP GDP sales were at various prices for the same pieces. What one person was offered, and at what price they were offered at, varied from person to person.
Take with a pinch of salt.... but from what I have seen, I'd put a LOT of money on this being true.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by cuzzo on Feb 12, 2021 22:46:59 GMT 1, All images of the Grey Banksquiat appear brown to me instead of grey. I thought this since the first day they were shown on the GDP site and it confused me at the time. Has anyone else noticed this?
All images of the Grey Banksquiat appear brown to me instead of grey. I thought this since the first day they were shown on the GDP site and it confused me at the time. Has anyone else noticed this? Think of it more as kraft paper color |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by eyectopus on Feb 12, 2021 23:05:19 GMT 1, All images of the Grey Banksquiat appear brown to me instead of grey. I thought this since the first day they were shown on the GDP site and it confused me at the time. Has anyone else noticed this? Think of it more as kraft paper color
Cheers, thats exactly the colour it looks to me from the photos.
All images of the Grey Banksquiat appear brown to me instead of grey. I thought this since the first day they were shown on the GDP site and it confused me at the time. Has anyone else noticed this? Think of it more as kraft paper color Cheers, thats exactly the colour it looks to me from the photos. |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by tab1 on Feb 12, 2021 23:28:06 GMT 1, I've been told by a very reliable source that the VIP GDP sales were at various prices for the same pieces. What one person was offered, and at what price they were offered at, varied from person to person. Take with a pinch of salt.... but from what I have seen, I'd put a LOT of money on this being true.
Differing Prices sold to each customer was Based on the value of the buyers car when they arrived at pow hq 😁
I've been told by a very reliable source that the VIP GDP sales were at various prices for the same pieces. What one person was offered, and at what price they were offered at, varied from person to person. Take with a pinch of salt.... but from what I have seen, I'd put a LOT of money on this being true. Differing Prices sold to each customer was Based on the value of the buyers car when they arrived at pow hq 😁 |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by macky on Feb 13, 2021 12:43:42 GMT 1, Think of it more as kraft paper color Cheers, thats exactly the colour it looks to me from the photos.
having seen a grey Banksquiat in the flesh, i can confirm that it is printed on a thick grey board. No hint of kraft paper color at all
Think of it more as kraft paper color Cheers, thats exactly the colour it looks to me from the photos. having seen a grey Banksquiat in the flesh, i can confirm that it is printed on a thick grey board. No hint of kraft paper color at all |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Dive Jedi on Feb 13, 2021 12:57:36 GMT 1, Cheers, thats exactly the colour it looks to me from the photos. having seen a grey Banksquiat in the flesh, i can confirm that it is printed on a thick grey board. No hint of kraft paper color at all
Print is grey as a shark.
Not an oceanic whitetip shark - those are brownish..... 
Cheers, thats exactly the colour it looks to me from the photos. having seen a grey Banksquiat in the flesh, i can confirm that it is printed on a thick grey board. No hint of kraft paper color at all I think the brown colour is due to the thin paper covering the print. Print is grey as a shark. Not an oceanic whitetip shark - those are brownish..... |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by artdelight on Feb 13, 2021 13:32:30 GMT 1, Hold guys, Banksy love holders!!!
Hold guys, Banksy love holders!!!
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 19:45:29 GMT 1,
I do like this one.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Rebel Dreamer on Feb 13, 2021 20:50:10 GMT 1, You say that but we didn't quite see it with the 500 Sale Ends V2s a few years ago - albeit prices were lower then so had less room to swing about. i reckon it was 200 to lotto winners of the 600 total. then you have lovely folk like the cushion man
You say that but we didn't quite see it with the 500 Sale Ends V2s a few years ago - albeit prices were lower then so had less room to swing about. i reckon it was 200 to lotto winners of the 600 total. then you have lovely folk like the cushion man When the Banksquiats were all unboxed at the time nobody seemed to have an edition number under #200.. |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by artdelight on Feb 14, 2021 0:50:59 GMT 1, I am sorry if this has been discussed before and wasn’t sure where to post this (so also posted this to the Artwork Valuation and GDP thread). I also realize that no one knows the answer yet because none of pieces of hit the market, but I wanted to get your opinion on the secondary market prices of the following GDP pieces: - Flower Thrower Print - Basquait (Grey / Black) - Rat Clock - Met Ball - Drones (Duck and Cover) - Early Learning Set - Spray Can Which piece(s) do you think will be worth the most? Are the prints worth more than the sculpture pieces like the Clock and Ball in the long run? Thanks in advance for your opinion and info! - Cate
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I am sorry if this has been discussed before and wasn’t sure where to post this (so also posted this to the Artwork Valuation and GDP thread). I also realize that no one knows the answer yet because none of pieces of hit the market, but I wanted to get your opinion on the secondary market prices of the following GDP pieces: - Flower Thrower Print - Basquait (Grey / Black) - Rat Clock - Met Ball - Drones (Duck and Cover) - Early Learning Set - Spray Can Which piece(s) do you think will be worth the most? Are the prints worth more than the sculpture pieces like the Clock and Ball in the long run? Thanks in advance for your opinion and info! - Cate Flower thrower Banksquiat. |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by artdelight on Feb 14, 2021 0:57:48 GMT 1, So... according to the opinions on the Banksquiat value, we can easily compare these to the Donut prints (2 editions of 299). That either puts the donuts in a £200k + value, or brings the Banksquiat down to £90k value. I would go for the latter. in my humble and unbiased opinion Banqsquiat is worth €800k, therefore mine at €140k is a steal.
I believe u are right, give it 5 years.
So... according to the opinions on the Banksquiat value, we can easily compare these to the Donut prints (2 editions of 299). That either puts the donuts in a £200k + value, or brings the Banksquiat down to £90k value. I would go for the latter. in my humble and unbiased opinion Banqsquiat is worth €800k, therefore mine at €140k is a steal. I believe u are right, give it 5 years. |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by artdelight on Feb 14, 2021 1:00:01 GMT 1, Anyone who believes there are 600 Banksquiats out there will likely end up disappointed Edition size and the number sold are not related I would also suggest image , size and medium all impact value In the same way that the unlimited GDP items may well only have 5 items actually sold this edition size is the maximum that the artist can print and sell not how many he actually chooses to As someone who has had the time to study both in person I don’t believe you can compare a screen print on paper like sale ends with a Banksquiat Personal opinion as always although the principle that GDP item edition sizes do not reflect the actual numbers sold is pretty accurate
You are correct. They are two different quality pieces and there werent 600 pieces for a lottery, a lot less.
Anyone who believes there are 600 Banksquiats out there will likely end up disappointed Edition size and the number sold are not related I would also suggest image , size and medium all impact value In the same way that the unlimited GDP items may well only have 5 items actually sold this edition size is the maximum that the artist can print and sell not how many he actually chooses to As someone who has had the time to study both in person I don’t believe you can compare a screen print on paper like sale ends with a Banksquiat Personal opinion as always although the principle that GDP item edition sizes do not reflect the actual numbers sold is pretty accurate You are correct. They are two different quality pieces and there werent 600 pieces for a lottery, a lot less. |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Fuzzyduck121 on Feb 14, 2021 11:01:37 GMT 1, i reckon it was 200 to lotto winners of the 600 total. then you have lovely folk like the cushion man When the Banksquiats were all unboxed at the time nobody seemed to have an edition number under #200..
100% seen several under 200
I am yet to see any in the sub 100 category though for either colour
If so that’s at least a third not released
i reckon it was 200 to lotto winners of the 600 total. then you have lovely folk like the cushion man When the Banksquiats were all unboxed at the time nobody seemed to have an edition number under #200.. 100% seen several under 200 I am yet to see any in the sub 100 category though for either colour If so that’s at least a third not released |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by zacksz 123123 on Feb 14, 2021 15:06:04 GMT 1, sale showing such.... no one is shelling out 100k for a clock clocks are handfinished ed. of 150. easily over 100k show me anything handfinished by banksy eligible for COA under 100k is an easier request
I understand why you would believe such...
But your opinion =/= sale showing such (as asked above)
sale showing such.... no one is shelling out 100k for a clock clocks are handfinished ed. of 150. easily over 100k show me anything handfinished by banksy eligible for COA under 100k is an easier request I understand why you would believe such... But your opinion =/= sale showing such (as asked above) |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by gimmeabreak on Feb 14, 2021 15:28:31 GMT 1, clocks are handfinished ed. of 150. easily over 100k show me anything handfinished by banksy eligible for COA under 100k is an easier request I understand why you would believe such... But your opinion =/= sale showing such (as asked above)
ur logic aint great mate lol
clocks are handfinished ed. of 150. easily over 100k show me anything handfinished by banksy eligible for COA under 100k is an easier request I understand why you would believe such... But your opinion =/= sale showing such (as asked above) ur sayin the handfinished banksy clocks arent worth 100k, yet u cannot show me any handfinished banksy item available on the market eligible for COA under 100k ur logic aint great mate lol |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by zacksz 123123 on Feb 15, 2021 13:28:25 GMT 1, I understand why you would believe such... But your opinion =/= sale showing such (as asked above) ur sayin the handfinished banksy clocks arent worth 100k, yet u cannot show me any handfinished banksy item available on the market eligible for COA under 100k ur logic aint great mate lol
sale showing such - original ask and still nothing shown.... how about instead of dumbing down and changing up my original ask, let’s broaden the ask to show me a sale for any of the GDP - met ball, pillows, drones, w.e., for above 100k as you have mentioned.
You clearly own some GDP items and are trying to hype this up to the moon. You must also believe the paint cans are 100k too...
I understand why you would believe such... But your opinion =/= sale showing such (as asked above) ur sayin the handfinished banksy clocks arent worth 100k, yet u cannot show me any handfinished banksy item available on the market eligible for COA under 100k ur logic aint great mate lol sale showing such - original ask and still nothing shown.... how about instead of dumbing down and changing up my original ask, let’s broaden the ask to show me a sale for any of the GDP - met ball, pillows, drones, w.e., for above 100k as you have mentioned. You clearly own some GDP items and are trying to hype this up to the moon. You must also believe the paint cans are 100k too... |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by privatesale on Feb 15, 2021 15:01:13 GMT 1, For anyone who cares re conversations above - I bought Banskquiat in Dec '19 for 24kGBP inc. vat from source.
For anyone who cares re conversations above - I bought Banskquiat in Dec '19 for 24kGBP inc. vat from source.
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