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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by artzhole on Sept 26, 2021 19:24:58 GMT 1, Am I correct in thinking that all you lucky lotto winners will be getting your COAs next month...ish?🤔... isn't it 2 years?🤷♂️
...wonder if anything new is in the pipeline for GDP. 🤞
Am I correct in thinking that all you lucky lotto winners will be getting your COAs next month...ish?🤔... isn't it 2 years?🤷♂️
...wonder if anything new is in the pipeline for GDP. 🤞
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by sm on Sept 26, 2021 22:40:58 GMT 1, Am I correct in thinking that all you lucky lotto winners will be getting your COAs next month...ish?🤔... isn't it 2 years?🤷♂️ ...wonder if anything new is in the pipeline for GDP. 🤞
Is it just the Thrower and Banksquiat prints that get COA? I can’t remember now, it feels like a long time ago.
Am I correct in thinking that all you lucky lotto winners will be getting your COAs next month...ish?🤔... isn't it 2 years?🤷♂️ ...wonder if anything new is in the pipeline for GDP. 🤞 Is it just the Thrower and Banksquiat prints that get COA? I can’t remember now, it feels like a long time ago.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Fuzzyduck121 on Sept 27, 2021 8:15:19 GMT 1, “Sorry if you've been unsuccessful, there will be plenty more opportunities to purchase products in the coming months. If you've registered you will automatically receive a mail telling you about new releases.”
Classic trolling
“Sorry if you've been unsuccessful, there will be plenty more opportunities to purchase products in the coming months. If you've registered you will automatically receive a mail telling you about new releases.”
Classic trolling
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by radnatic on Sept 27, 2021 11:13:40 GMT 1, Unfortunately, I have already read various things.
Do I get the certificate automatically or do I have to send an email to Pest Control in any case?
Unfortunately, I have already read various things.
Do I get the certificate automatically or do I have to send an email to Pest Control in any case?
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by casual on Sept 27, 2021 12:11:29 GMT 1, Unfortunately, I have already read various things. Do I get the certificate automatically or do I have to send an email to Pest Control in any case?
You have to apply for the COA from Pest Control if the item you have is eligible for one.
I have an email from PC directly stating this when I enquired about my GDP item won on the lottery, so we can apply in approximately 6 weeks time.
Unfortunately, I have already read various things. Do I get the certificate automatically or do I have to send an email to Pest Control in any case? You have to apply for the COA from Pest Control if the item you have is eligible for one. I have an email from PC directly stating this when I enquired about my GDP item won on the lottery, so we can apply in approximately 6 weeks time.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by polokino on Sept 27, 2021 13:24:45 GMT 1, Hello all,
Happy Monday!
I was wondering how to be part of the mailing list? Sent them a couple of emails for 1 year and a half now. No answer...
In advance thank you for your help.
Cheers.
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Hello all,
Happy Monday!
I was wondering how to be part of the mailing list? Sent them a couple of emails for 1 year and a half now. No answer...
In advance thank you for your help.
Cheers.
P.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by emmamikal on Sept 27, 2021 13:39:52 GMT 1, The information provided by this page is most informative and interesting.I enjoy painting and I'd like to get trendy tutorials on different As a painter, I would also like to get trendy tutorials about different things such as trendy art tutorials or trendy ita bag tutorials.
The information provided by this page is most informative and interesting.I enjoy painting and I'd like to get trendy tutorials on different As a painter, I would also like to get trendy tutorials about different things such as trendy art tutorials or trendy ita bag tutorials.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Dice on Oct 2, 2021 19:00:52 GMT 1, From the gdp website:
Please contact us by email at info@grossdomesticproduct.com if your address changes or if you do not receive a Certificate of Authenticity within 30 days after the second anniversary of the date of your purchase.
They will probably be sending out quite promptly I would imagine.
From the gdp website:
Please contact us by email at info@grossdomesticproduct.com if your address changes or if you do not receive a Certificate of Authenticity within 30 days after the second anniversary of the date of your purchase.
They will probably be sending out quite promptly I would imagine.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Fuzzyduck121 on Oct 2, 2021 19:22:13 GMT 1, From the gdp website: Please contact us by email at info@grossdomesticproduct.com if your address changes or if you do not receive a Certificate of Authenticity within 30 days after the second anniversary of the date of your purchase. They will probably be sending out quite promptly I would imagine.
You have a lot to learn my friend
They only thing that’s guaranteed is that nothing is guaranteed except for the guarantee that nothing will be happening promptly
And thats guaranteed
From the gdp website: Please contact us by email at info@grossdomesticproduct.com if your address changes or if you do not receive a Certificate of Authenticity within 30 days after the second anniversary of the date of your purchase. They will probably be sending out quite promptly I would imagine. You have a lot to learn my friend They only thing that’s guaranteed is that nothing is guaranteed except for the guarantee that nothing will be happening promptly And thats guaranteed
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Dice on Oct 2, 2021 20:35:44 GMT 1, From the gdp website: Please contact us by email at info@grossdomesticproduct.com if your address changes or if you do not receive a Certificate of Authenticity within 30 days after the second anniversary of the date of your purchase. They will probably be sending out quite promptly I would imagine. You have a lot to learn my friend They only thing that’s guaranteed is that nothing is guaranteed except for the guarantee that nothing will be happening promptly And thats guaranteed
Im sure they’d rather send the COAs out than deal with a hundreds if not thousands of shitty emails asking where the bloody COA’s are.
From the gdp website: Please contact us by email at info@grossdomesticproduct.com if your address changes or if you do not receive a Certificate of Authenticity within 30 days after the second anniversary of the date of your purchase. They will probably be sending out quite promptly I would imagine. You have a lot to learn my friend They only thing that’s guaranteed is that nothing is guaranteed except for the guarantee that nothing will be happening promptly And thats guaranteed Im sure they’d rather send the COAs out than deal with a hundreds if not thousands of shitty emails asking where the bloody COA’s are.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by mikegood on Oct 3, 2021 0:27:21 GMT 1, From the gdp website: Please contact us by email at info@grossdomesticproduct.com if your address changes or if you do not receive a Certificate of Authenticity within 30 days after the second anniversary of the date of your purchase. They will probably be sending out quite promptly I would imagine. info@grossdomesticproduct.com isn't monitored anymore. Auto response saying to email sales@ ...
Have received mixed messages from PC over the last two years. One email saying it will be auto-sent. Another saying I'd need to apply. LOL-- No clue what the real answer is.
Assuming I'll need to wait another year, haha! :shrug:
From the gdp website: Please contact us by email at info@grossdomesticproduct.com if your address changes or if you do not receive a Certificate of Authenticity within 30 days after the second anniversary of the date of your purchase. They will probably be sending out quite promptly I would imagine. info@grossdomesticproduct.com isn't monitored anymore. Auto response saying to email sales@ ... Have received mixed messages from PC over the last two years. One email saying it will be auto-sent. Another saying I'd need to apply. LOL-- No clue what the real answer is. Assuming I'll need to wait another year, haha! :shrug:
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by newguy on Oct 4, 2021 5:31:13 GMT 1, You have a lot to learn my friend They only thing that’s guaranteed is that nothing is guaranteed except for the guarantee that nothing will be happening promptly And thats guaranteed Im sure they’d rather send the COAs out than deal with a hundreds if not thousands of shitty emails asking where the bloody COA’s are. Exactly right, there was what 300 basquaits and 300 throwers. I doubt they are going to want to respond to 600 people - thats why they ask that you keep them updated with your current address so that when it comes to the 2 years they just send them all out and be done with them.
You have a lot to learn my friend They only thing that’s guaranteed is that nothing is guaranteed except for the guarantee that nothing will be happening promptly And thats guaranteed Im sure they’d rather send the COAs out than deal with a hundreds if not thousands of shitty emails asking where the bloody COA’s are. Exactly right, there was what 300 basquaits and 300 throwers. I doubt they are going to want to respond to 600 people - thats why they ask that you keep them updated with your current address so that when it comes to the 2 years they just send them all out and be done with them.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Fuzzyduck121 on Oct 4, 2021 7:47:12 GMT 1, Im sure they’d rather send the COAs out than deal with a hundreds if not thousands of shitty emails asking where the bloody COA’s are. Exactly right, there was what 300 basquaits and 300 throwers. I doubt they are going to want to respond to 600 people - thats why they ask that you keep them updated with your current address so that when it comes to the 2 years they just send them all out and be done with them.
I can absolutely assure you that the disappointing retail experience will continue to deliver 600 annoyed people won’t even register on their ever expanding inbox And they really do like to disappoint
Even worse sending 600 Certificates out automatically will create more issues than waiting . People never do what you ask and so you will have loads of certs being cancelled lost or in the wrong hands etc etc Application for COA is the only way forwards and PC have already confirmed this to those who have asked Also weeds out the flippers and scalpers so it’s win win
Im sure they’d rather send the COAs out than deal with a hundreds if not thousands of shitty emails asking where the bloody COA’s are. Exactly right, there was what 300 basquaits and 300 throwers. I doubt they are going to want to respond to 600 people - thats why they ask that you keep them updated with your current address so that when it comes to the 2 years they just send them all out and be done with them. I can absolutely assure you that the disappointing retail experience will continue to deliver 600 annoyed people won’t even register on their ever expanding inbox And they really do like to disappoint Even worse sending 600 Certificates out automatically will create more issues than waiting . People never do what you ask and so you will have loads of certs being cancelled lost or in the wrong hands etc etc Application for COA is the only way forwards and PC have already confirmed this to those who have asked Also weeds out the flippers and scalpers so it’s win win
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by newguy on Oct 4, 2021 11:48:31 GMT 1, Exactly right, there was what 300 basquaits and 300 throwers. I doubt they are going to want to respond to 600 people - thats why they ask that you keep them updated with your current address so that when it comes to the 2 years they just send them all out and be done with them. I can absolutely assure you that the disappointing retail experience will continue to deliver 600 annoyed people won’t even register on their ever expanding inbox And they really do like to disappoint Even worse sending 600 Certificates out automatically will create more issues than waiting . People never do what you ask and so you will have loads of certs being cancelled lost or in the wrong hands etc etc Application for COA is the only way forwards and PC have already confirmed this to those who have asked Also weeds out the flippers and scalpers so it’s win win So you're saying as soon as the 2 years pass we should inbox them and ask for our COAs?
Exactly right, there was what 300 basquaits and 300 throwers. I doubt they are going to want to respond to 600 people - thats why they ask that you keep them updated with your current address so that when it comes to the 2 years they just send them all out and be done with them. I can absolutely assure you that the disappointing retail experience will continue to deliver 600 annoyed people won’t even register on their ever expanding inbox And they really do like to disappoint Even worse sending 600 Certificates out automatically will create more issues than waiting . People never do what you ask and so you will have loads of certs being cancelled lost or in the wrong hands etc etc Application for COA is the only way forwards and PC have already confirmed this to those who have asked Also weeds out the flippers and scalpers so it’s win win So you're saying as soon as the 2 years pass we should inbox them and ask for our COAs?
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by singerstu on Oct 4, 2021 15:21:00 GMT 1, Im sure they’d rather send the COAs out than deal with a hundreds if not thousands of shitty emails asking where the bloody COA’s are. Exactly right, there was what 300 basquaits and 300 throwers. I doubt they are going to want to respond to 600 people - thats why they ask that you keep them updated with your current address so that when it comes to the 2 years they just send them all out and be done with them. Actually there are 300 Black and 300 Grey Banksquiat prints and 300 Throwers. So that’s 900 plus all the other stuff. However in reality I would be surprised if more than 10% of the available prints went to lottery winners in the first round so it’s maybe 100 people at most who are due COA’s.
Im sure they’d rather send the COAs out than deal with a hundreds if not thousands of shitty emails asking where the bloody COA’s are. Exactly right, there was what 300 basquaits and 300 throwers. I doubt they are going to want to respond to 600 people - thats why they ask that you keep them updated with your current address so that when it comes to the 2 years they just send them all out and be done with them. Actually there are 300 Black and 300 Grey Banksquiat prints and 300 Throwers. So that’s 900 plus all the other stuff. However in reality I would be surprised if more than 10% of the available prints went to lottery winners in the first round so it’s maybe 100 people at most who are due COA’s.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Georgie Poppit on Oct 4, 2021 15:43:27 GMT 1, And the 'VIPs' who've been allowed to buy more than one of certain items. Clearly the new holier than thou PC are not as concerned about where these pieces end up they make out.
And the 'VIPs' who've been allowed to buy more than one of certain items. Clearly the new holier than thou PC are not as concerned about where these pieces end up they make out.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Oct 4, 2021 21:23:00 GMT 1, Exactly right, there was what 300 basquaits and 300 throwers. I doubt they are going to want to respond to 600 people - thats why they ask that you keep them updated with your current address so that when it comes to the 2 years they just send them all out and be done with them. Actually there are 300 Black and 300 Grey Banksquiat prints and 300 Throwers. So that’s 900 plus all the other stuff. However in reality I would be surprised if more than 10% of the available prints went to lottery winners in the first round so it’s maybe 100 people at most who are due COA’s.
Agree with you fella. I have ways thought going by how much we've seen out in the open that say a 100 of each were issued at lotto stage. The rest?
Exactly right, there was what 300 basquaits and 300 throwers. I doubt they are going to want to respond to 600 people - thats why they ask that you keep them updated with your current address so that when it comes to the 2 years they just send them all out and be done with them. Actually there are 300 Black and 300 Grey Banksquiat prints and 300 Throwers. So that’s 900 plus all the other stuff. However in reality I would be surprised if more than 10% of the available prints went to lottery winners in the first round so it’s maybe 100 people at most who are due COA’s. Agree with you fella. I have ways thought going by how much we've seen out in the open that say a 100 of each were issued at lotto stage. The rest?
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Fairxat on Oct 5, 2021 1:08:22 GMT 1, Actually there are 300 Black and 300 Grey Banksquiat prints and 300 Throwers. So that’s 900 plus all the other stuff. However in reality I would be surprised if more than 10% of the available prints went to lottery winners in the first round so it’s maybe 100 people at most who are due COA’s. Agree with you fella. I have ways thought going by how much we've seen out in the open that say a 100 of each were issued at lotto stage. The rest?
The rest to be trickled into the market at their discretion Mentioned this with sales end vs2 and these releases when first released and a great uproar entailed
Actually there are 300 Black and 300 Grey Banksquiat prints and 300 Throwers. So that’s 900 plus all the other stuff. However in reality I would be surprised if more than 10% of the available prints went to lottery winners in the first round so it’s maybe 100 people at most who are due COA’s. Agree with you fella. I have ways thought going by how much we've seen out in the open that say a 100 of each were issued at lotto stage. The rest? The rest to be trickled into the market at their discretion Mentioned this with sales end vs2 and these releases when first released and a great uproar entailed
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by 123456789 on Oct 14, 2021 14:46:53 GMT 1, I was told I have to apply for the COA, it will not be send automatically!
I was told I have to apply for the COA, it will not be send automatically!
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by esfer on Oct 15, 2021 10:26:05 GMT 1, Actually there are 300 Black and 300 Grey Banksquiat prints and 300 Throwers. So that’s 900 plus all the other stuff. However in reality I would be surprised if more than 10% of the available prints went to lottery winners in the first round so it’s maybe 100 people at most who are due COA’s. Agree with you fella. I have ways thought going by how much we've seen out in the open that say a 100 of each were issued at lotto stage. The rest?
This makes a lot of sense to me actually. There have been so few Banksquiat pieces for sale/ at auction that it has made me wonder if all the winners were simply waiting for the Certificates to become available? That just never felt right.
Now I'm thinking maybe this is the real reason. If only 60 or even 120 (total both colorways) were released through the lottery? That feels more accurate really.
Only 4 Banksquiat's have been sold at auction (according to Banksy-Value)! That's absurdly low considering the steep values for those prints.
Actually there are 300 Black and 300 Grey Banksquiat prints and 300 Throwers. So that’s 900 plus all the other stuff. However in reality I would be surprised if more than 10% of the available prints went to lottery winners in the first round so it’s maybe 100 people at most who are due COA’s. Agree with you fella. I have ways thought going by how much we've seen out in the open that say a 100 of each were issued at lotto stage. The rest? This makes a lot of sense to me actually. There have been so few Banksquiat pieces for sale/ at auction that it has made me wonder if all the winners were simply waiting for the Certificates to become available? That just never felt right. Now I'm thinking maybe this is the real reason. If only 60 or even 120 (total both colorways) were released through the lottery? That feels more accurate really. Only 4 Banksquiat's have been sold at auction (according to Banksy-Value)! That's absurdly low considering the steep values for those prints.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Graham H on Oct 15, 2021 10:37:30 GMT 1, I think you are overthinking it..
There is only Tate Ward as far as i know who have sold these - as all other auction houses wont sell them without a COA..
As soon as the 2 years are up and COA's are issued, they will be popping up at sothebys, christies etc.
No way of knowing how many were sold to lottery winners , or even how many still sit in a drawer at PC increasing in value and will be sold at a later date
Agree with you fella. I have ways thought going by how much we've seen out in the open that say a 100 of each were issued at lotto stage. The rest? This makes a lot of sense to me actually. There have been so few Banksquiat pieces for sale/ at auction that it has made me wonder if all the winners were simply waiting for the Certificates to become available? That just never felt right. Now I'm thinking maybe this is the real reason. If only 60 or even 120 (total both colorways) were released through the lottery? That feels more accurate really. Only 4 Banksquiat's have been sold at auction (according to Banksy-Value)! That's absurdly low considering the steep values for those prints.
I think you are overthinking it.. There is only Tate Ward as far as i know who have sold these - as all other auction houses wont sell them without a COA.. As soon as the 2 years are up and COA's are issued, they will be popping up at sothebys, christies etc. No way of knowing how many were sold to lottery winners , or even how many still sit in a drawer at PC increasing in value and will be sold at a later date Agree with you fella. I have ways thought going by how much we've seen out in the open that say a 100 of each were issued at lotto stage. The rest? This makes a lot of sense to me actually. There have been so few Banksquiat pieces for sale/ at auction that it has made me wonder if all the winners were simply waiting for the Certificates to become available? That just never felt right. Now I'm thinking maybe this is the real reason. If only 60 or even 120 (total both colorways) were released through the lottery? That feels more accurate really. Only 4 Banksquiat's have been sold at auction (according to Banksy-Value)! That's absurdly low considering the steep values for those prints.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by u%hdjfka c on Oct 15, 2021 10:40:15 GMT 1, Banksquiat owners will say anything in an attempt to increase the value of their prints
Banksquiat owners will say anything in an attempt to increase the value of their prints
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by 123456789 on Oct 17, 2021 13:17:20 GMT 1, Banksquiat owners will say anything in an attempt to increase the value of their prints
As if it would make a difference what is discussed here...
Banksquiat owners will say anything in an attempt to increase the value of their prints As if it would make a difference what is discussed here...
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by newguy on Oct 20, 2021 13:10:39 GMT 1, who told you that you have to apply for the COA? I thought they would be sent automatically.
who told you that you have to apply for the COA? I thought they would be sent automatically.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by sbash on Oct 20, 2021 13:52:50 GMT 1, who told you that you have to apply for the COA? I thought they would be sent automatically. Dude,
If you read the last few pages you'll probably and quite rightly conclude that nobody really knows anything, it's all just conjecture.
However, some have stronger arguments than others... like any forum, it's up to you to decide which argument holds best.
who told you that you have to apply for the COA? I thought they would be sent automatically. Dude, If you read the last few pages you'll probably and quite rightly conclude that nobody really knows anything, it's all just conjecture. However, some have stronger arguments than others... like any forum, it's up to you to decide which argument holds best.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by PS on Oct 20, 2021 13:56:36 GMT 1, I don't think there should really be any argument, the email from POW said that COA's would be sent out within 30 days 2 years after purchase.
who told you that you have to apply for the COA? I thought they would be sent automatically. Dude, If you read the last few pages you'll probably and quite rightly conclude that nobody really knows anything, it's all just conjecture. However, some have stronger arguments than others... like any forum, it's up to you to decide which argument holds best.
I don't think there should really be any argument, the email from POW said that COA's would be sent out within 30 days 2 years after purchase. who told you that you have to apply for the COA? I thought they would be sent automatically. Dude, If you read the last few pages you'll probably and quite rightly conclude that nobody really knows anything, it's all just conjecture. However, some have stronger arguments than others... like any forum, it's up to you to decide which argument holds best.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by casual on Oct 20, 2021 15:33:36 GMT 1, I’ve tried explaining numerous times that I’ve heard from PC direct in regards to the COA’s but for those adamant that they know best please see below:
I’ve tried explaining numerous times that I’ve heard from PC direct in regards to the COA’s but for those adamant that they know best please see below:
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by esfer on Oct 20, 2021 22:03:01 GMT 1, I’ve tried explaining numerous times that I’ve heard from PC direct in regards to the COA’s but for those adamant that they know best please see below:
That sounds pretty clear.
I’ve tried explaining numerous times that I’ve heard from PC direct in regards to the COA’s but for those adamant that they know best please see below: That sounds pretty clear.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by sbash on Oct 21, 2021 11:39:26 GMT 1, I can only imagine that you've never had to deal with Pest Control in the past. They simply do things under their own steam and on their terms.
I don't think there should really be any argument, the email from POW said that COA's would be sent out within 30 days 2 years after purchase. Dude, If you read the last few pages you'll probably and quite rightly conclude that nobody really knows anything, it's all just conjecture. However, some have stronger arguments than others... like any forum, it's up to you to decide which argument holds best.
I can only imagine that you've never had to deal with Pest Control in the past. They simply do things under their own steam and on their terms. I don't think there should really be any argument, the email from POW said that COA's would be sent out within 30 days 2 years after purchase. Dude, If you read the last few pages you'll probably and quite rightly conclude that nobody really knows anything, it's all just conjecture. However, some have stronger arguments than others... like any forum, it's up to you to decide which argument holds best.
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