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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by cmc on Oct 1, 2019 16:24:17 GMT 1, LINK:https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/national/17939171.banksy-opens-homeware-store-card-company-legal-dispute/
Graffiti artist Banksy says he has been forced to open his own homeware store following a legal dispute involving a greeting cards company.
The new store, called Gross Domestic Product, will span the windows of a former south London carpet shop and sell a range of “impractical and offensive” merchandise created by the artist.
In a statement, Banksy said the motivation behind the venture, on Church Street in Croydon, is “possibly the least poetic reason to ever make some art”.
He said: “A greetings cards company is contesting the trademark I hold to my art, and attempting to take custody of my name so they can sell their fake Banksy merchandise legally.
“I think they’re banking on the idea I won’t show up in court to defend myself.”
Items being sold in the shop include a Union Jack stab-proof vest, worn by the rapper Stormzy during his Glastonbury performance, and a model of Frosties cereal character Tony the Tiger, re-imagined as a rug.
Welcome mats made from life vests salvaged from the shores of the Mediterranean, which have been hand-stitched by women in detainment camps in Greece, are also on display.
Mark Stephens, an arts lawyer and founder of the Design and Artists Copyright Society, is advising Banksy on what he describes as “frankly ludicrous litigation”.
He said: “Banksy is in a difficult position because he doesn’t produce his own range of shoddy merchandise and the law is quite clear – if the trademark holder is not using the mark, then it can be transferred to someone who will.”
As a solution to the issue, Mr Stephens proposed that Bansky began his own range of merchandise and opened a shop.
Mr Stephens said the card company, who he refused to name, initiated the legal proceedings about 12 months ago.
Although people will be able to visit the store for the next two weeks, its doors will never open and the lights will remain on 24 hours a day.
Banksy said: “The proceeds from these products will go towards buying a new migrant rescue boat to replace the one confiscated by Italian authorities.
“So you may well be committing a criminal offence by purchasing them.
“Sometimes you go to work and it’s hard to know what to paint, but for the past few months I’ve been making stuff for the sole purpose of fulfilling trademark categories under EU law. It’s not a very sexy muse.”
Amongst the crowds gathered outside the shop on Tuesday was Janet Jones, 62, who lives locally.
She said: “It’s pretty incredible. The shop has been empty for a long while.
“I’m pretty sure it was empty yesterday, It’s just happened so quickly.”
Four security guards, dressed in brown trench coats, were stood outside the store.
They told PA news agency that they did not know who they were working for or how long the job would last.
Oliver Lewis, Croydon council’s cabinet member for culture, leisure and sport, said: “It’s really exciting, there’s a lot of people out here generating a lot of interest.
“It just popped up overnight. That’s one of the great things about street art, it’s something for everyone to enjoy.”
Other items for sale include disco balls made from used police riot helmets and a toddler’s counting toy where children are encouraged to load wooden migrant figures inside a haulage truck.
Items on display in the shop, which are only available to buy online, range in price from a £10 signed spray paint can to a handbag made from a house brick.
Banksy said despite trying to defend his artistic rights in this particular case, he has not changed his position on copyright.
He added: “I still encourage anyone to copy, borrow, steal and amend my art for amusement, academic research or activism. I just don’t want them to get sole custody of my name.”
LINK:https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/national/17939171.banksy-opens-homeware-store-card-company-legal-dispute/
Graffiti artist Banksy says he has been forced to open his own homeware store following a legal dispute involving a greeting cards company.
The new store, called Gross Domestic Product, will span the windows of a former south London carpet shop and sell a range of “impractical and offensive” merchandise created by the artist.
In a statement, Banksy said the motivation behind the venture, on Church Street in Croydon, is “possibly the least poetic reason to ever make some art”.
He said: “A greetings cards company is contesting the trademark I hold to my art, and attempting to take custody of my name so they can sell their fake Banksy merchandise legally.
“I think they’re banking on the idea I won’t show up in court to defend myself.”
Items being sold in the shop include a Union Jack stab-proof vest, worn by the rapper Stormzy during his Glastonbury performance, and a model of Frosties cereal character Tony the Tiger, re-imagined as a rug.
Welcome mats made from life vests salvaged from the shores of the Mediterranean, which have been hand-stitched by women in detainment camps in Greece, are also on display.
Mark Stephens, an arts lawyer and founder of the Design and Artists Copyright Society, is advising Banksy on what he describes as “frankly ludicrous litigation”.
He said: “Banksy is in a difficult position because he doesn’t produce his own range of shoddy merchandise and the law is quite clear – if the trademark holder is not using the mark, then it can be transferred to someone who will.”
As a solution to the issue, Mr Stephens proposed that Bansky began his own range of merchandise and opened a shop.
Mr Stephens said the card company, who he refused to name, initiated the legal proceedings about 12 months ago.
Although people will be able to visit the store for the next two weeks, its doors will never open and the lights will remain on 24 hours a day.
Banksy said: “The proceeds from these products will go towards buying a new migrant rescue boat to replace the one confiscated by Italian authorities.
“So you may well be committing a criminal offence by purchasing them.
“Sometimes you go to work and it’s hard to know what to paint, but for the past few months I’ve been making stuff for the sole purpose of fulfilling trademark categories under EU law. It’s not a very sexy muse.”
Amongst the crowds gathered outside the shop on Tuesday was Janet Jones, 62, who lives locally.
She said: “It’s pretty incredible. The shop has been empty for a long while.
“I’m pretty sure it was empty yesterday, It’s just happened so quickly.”
Four security guards, dressed in brown trench coats, were stood outside the store.
They told PA news agency that they did not know who they were working for or how long the job would last.
Oliver Lewis, Croydon council’s cabinet member for culture, leisure and sport, said: “It’s really exciting, there’s a lot of people out here generating a lot of interest.
“It just popped up overnight. That’s one of the great things about street art, it’s something for everyone to enjoy.”
Other items for sale include disco balls made from used police riot helmets and a toddler’s counting toy where children are encouraged to load wooden migrant figures inside a haulage truck.
Items on display in the shop, which are only available to buy online, range in price from a £10 signed spray paint can to a handbag made from a house brick.
Banksy said despite trying to defend his artistic rights in this particular case, he has not changed his position on copyright.
He added: “I still encourage anyone to copy, borrow, steal and amend my art for amusement, academic research or activism. I just don’t want them to get sole custody of my name.”
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by pellets on Oct 1, 2019 16:24:58 GMT 1, Yeah, how does one obtain a password?
Yeah, how does one obtain a password?
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Fast Eddie on Oct 1, 2019 16:26:45 GMT 1, This thing that a hardcore anti-capitalist artist chooses to launch a seemingly viable economic activity just to protect his trademark is kind of a tragic contrapasso. Few doubts left that we are going down the drain as a civilization. Where is my champagne? Not really. According to the info all monies from this sale go to a decent and desperately needed cause. And it also stops a predatory capitalist attitude taking control (legally) of a name (BANKSY) that would be able to shift endless units of mass cock-womble designed and probably exploitatively produced bollocky, ass-hatted 'official' product for private gain. Look, I admire the charity work and I am a huge supporter of political art. But last time I checked private property and the protection of property rights were pillars of capitalism as we know it. So are intellectual property rights and contract enforcement.
There is this and then there is Blu living in a trailer somewhere in South America painting murals. I respect both actually. But the system has won in both cases.
This thing that a hardcore anti-capitalist artist chooses to launch a seemingly viable economic activity just to protect his trademark is kind of a tragic contrapasso. Few doubts left that we are going down the drain as a civilization. Where is my champagne? Not really. According to the info all monies from this sale go to a decent and desperately needed cause. And it also stops a predatory capitalist attitude taking control (legally) of a name (BANKSY) that would be able to shift endless units of mass cock-womble designed and probably exploitatively produced bollocky, ass-hatted 'official' product for private gain. Look, I admire the charity work and I am a huge supporter of political art. But last time I checked private property and the protection of property rights were pillars of capitalism as we know it. So are intellectual property rights and contract enforcement. There is this and then there is Blu living in a trailer somewhere in South America painting murals. I respect both actually. But the system has won in both cases.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by eliopp on Oct 1, 2019 16:29:40 GMT 1, I don't buy the cover story at all, I'm sure there are a few twists left yet.
I don't buy the cover story at all, I'm sure there are a few twists left yet.
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cmc
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by cmc on Oct 1, 2019 16:30:43 GMT 1, I don't buy the cover story at all, I'm sure there are a few twists left yet.
Hopefully !
I don't buy the cover story at all, I'm sure there are a few twists left yet.
Hopefully !
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by cmc on Oct 1, 2019 16:31:46 GMT 1, Anyone got an actual addres for the install ? Trying to direct some friends that are over from the states.
Anyone got an actual addres for the install ? Trying to direct some friends that are over from the states.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by jp226 on Oct 1, 2019 16:34:03 GMT 1, Probably a lottery in there again somewhere? This is what I'm hearing... It will be lottery based for the editions.
Probably a lottery in there again somewhere? This is what I'm hearing... It will be lottery based for the editions.
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"Banksy's biggest installation yet has just been unveiled in Croydon" Yeah if you discount Dismaland or Bristol.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by trowel on Oct 1, 2019 16:35:40 GMT 1, Wut
Wut
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"Banksy's biggest installation yet has just been unveiled in Croydon" Yeah if you discount Dismaland or Bristol. Should read: "Banksy's biggest installation yet in Croydon has just been unveiled"
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by cnrdvln on Oct 1, 2019 16:38:14 GMT 1, Can't run a /sitemap.xml on the site....
Can't run a /sitemap.xml on the site....
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by They call me Stephen on Oct 1, 2019 16:38:41 GMT 1, Croydon in a late surge for City of Culture 2019
Croydon in a late surge for City of Culture 2019
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Guy Denning on Oct 1, 2019 16:38:46 GMT 1, Not really. According to the info all monies from this sale go to a decent and desperately needed cause. And it also stops a predatory capitalist attitude taking control (legally) of a name (BANKSY) that would be able to shift endless units of mass cock-womble designed and probably exploitatively produced bollocky, ass-hatted 'official' product for private gain. Look, I admire the charity work and I am a huge supporter of political art. But last time I checked private property and the protection of property rights were pillars of capitalism as we know it. So are intellectual property rights and contract enforcement. There is this and then there is Blu living in a trailer somewhere in South America painting murals. I respect both actually. But the system has won in both cases. Well, the system hasn't 'won' if BANKSY's stopping someone from capitalising on his name by the process of undermining their legal entitlement to profit from his name, and in the process not making money from it himself. Unless he's doing it for the publicity - which we all know he's not really that short of. The only reason this is being done is to stop the predatory nature of capitalism when it's using his name to maintain itself. He's basically using and subverting the tools of capitalism to benefit the victims of capitalism at the expense of capitalism.
Not really. According to the info all monies from this sale go to a decent and desperately needed cause. And it also stops a predatory capitalist attitude taking control (legally) of a name (BANKSY) that would be able to shift endless units of mass cock-womble designed and probably exploitatively produced bollocky, ass-hatted 'official' product for private gain. Look, I admire the charity work and I am a huge supporter of political art. But last time I checked private property and the protection of property rights were pillars of capitalism as we know it. So are intellectual property rights and contract enforcement. There is this and then there is Blu living in a trailer somewhere in South America painting murals. I respect both actually. But the system has won in both cases. Well, the system hasn't 'won' if BANKSY's stopping someone from capitalising on his name by the process of undermining their legal entitlement to profit from his name, and in the process not making money from it himself. Unless he's doing it for the publicity - which we all know he's not really that short of. The only reason this is being done is to stop the predatory nature of capitalism when it's using his name to maintain itself. He's basically using and subverting the tools of capitalism to benefit the victims of capitalism at the expense of capitalism.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 16:40:25 GMT 1, Maybe vips get a password already?
Maybe vips get a password already?
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 16:41:06 GMT 1, So is that right?
Banksy said despite trying to defend his artistic rights in this particular case, he has not changed his position on copyright.
He added: “I still encourage anyone to copy, borrow, steal and amend my art for amusement, academic research or activism. I just don’t want them to get sole custody of my name.”
You can borrow or steal his art as long as its for amusement or activism?
So is that right?
Banksy said despite trying to defend his artistic rights in this particular case, he has not changed his position on copyright.
He added: “I still encourage anyone to copy, borrow, steal and amend my art for amusement, academic research or activism. I just don’t want them to get sole custody of my name.”
You can borrow or steal his art as long as its for amusement or activism?
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by lv90210 on Oct 1, 2019 16:41:20 GMT 1, Croydon in a late surge for City of Culture 2019 Go on the cronx !!
Croydon in a late surge for City of Culture 2019 Go on the cronx !!
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by irl1 on Oct 1, 2019 16:41:31 GMT 1, Gross Domestic Product Difaced Tenners on ebay "very soon"
Gross Domestic Product Difaced Tenners on ebay "very soon"
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Happy Shopper on Oct 1, 2019 16:41:42 GMT 1, Maybe vips get a password already? Password is just for the admin to update what's available before the site goes live... not a secret access for buying.
Maybe vips get a password already? Password is just for the admin to update what's available before the site goes live... not a secret access for buying.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 16:42:30 GMT 1, Maybe vips get a password already? Password is just for the admin to update what's available before the site goes live... not a secret access for buying.
I hope so
Maybe vips get a password already? Password is just for the admin to update what's available before the site goes live... not a secret access for buying. I hope so
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 16:43:22 GMT 1, I like the helmets en tv screen a lot :-)
I like the helmets en tv screen a lot :-)
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Adam The Collector on Oct 1, 2019 16:45:16 GMT 1, Gross Domestic Product Difaced Tenners on ebay "very soon" no way
Gross Domestic Product Difaced Tenners on ebay "very soon" no way
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by lukewarm on Oct 1, 2019 16:45:42 GMT 1, So is that right? Banksy said despite trying to defend his artistic rights in this particular case, he has not changed his position on copyright. He added: “I still encourage anyone to copy, borrow, steal and amend my art for amusement, academic research or activism. I just don’t want them to get sole custody of my name.” You can borrow or steal his art as long as its for amusement or activism? Maybe tonight the windows get smashed and it's a free for all..
So is that right? Banksy said despite trying to defend his artistic rights in this particular case, he has not changed his position on copyright. He added: “I still encourage anyone to copy, borrow, steal and amend my art for amusement, academic research or activism. I just don’t want them to get sole custody of my name.” You can borrow or steal his art as long as its for amusement or activism? Maybe tonight the windows get smashed and it's a free for all..
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 16:46:14 GMT 1, Good luck selling anything on this board today.
Good luck selling anything on this board today.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by eliopp on Oct 1, 2019 16:46:34 GMT 1, I like the mask lamp
TV and Rug are awesome too
I like the mask lamp
TV and Rug are awesome too
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Happy Shopper on Oct 1, 2019 16:47:05 GMT 1, Password is just for the admin to update what's available before the site goes live... not a secret access for buying. I hope so Is so, 100%. If it was a password access to buy stuff it would be on the home page, or there'd be a secret homepage we don't know about.
Password is just for the admin to update what's available before the site goes live... not a secret access for buying. I hope so Is so, 100%. If it was a password access to buy stuff it would be on the home page, or there'd be a secret homepage we don't know about.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by alandavies on Oct 1, 2019 16:47:09 GMT 1, Maybe vips get a password already? Password is just for the admin to update what's available before the site goes live... not a secret access for buying.
Not quite true.. tick tock who got a rat clock?
Maybe vips get a password already? Password is just for the admin to update what's available before the site goes live... not a secret access for buying. Not quite true.. tick tock who got a rat clock?
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by cmc on Oct 1, 2019 16:47:56 GMT 1, Whats with the fish food under the balaclava lamp
Whats with the fish food under the balaclava lamp
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Fast Eddie on Oct 1, 2019 16:48:30 GMT 1, Thank you, Guy Denning, for keeping that spirit alive. I am saying it honestly. But I am afraid the gods of copyright & trademark are smiling at us right now.
Thank you, Guy Denning, for keeping that spirit alive. I am saying it honestly. But I am afraid the gods of copyright & trademark are smiling at us right now.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Happy Shopper on Oct 1, 2019 16:48:34 GMT 1, So is that right? Banksy said despite trying to defend his artistic rights in this particular case, he has not changed his position on copyright. He added: “I still encourage anyone to copy, borrow, steal and amend my art for amusement, academic research or activism. I just don’t want them to get sole custody of my name.” You can borrow or steal his art as long as its for amusement or activism? Maybe tonight the windows get smashed and it's a free for all.. It's what Croydon is known for (unfortunately). For PR purposes I'm inclined to think they even expect it to happen.
So is that right? Banksy said despite trying to defend his artistic rights in this particular case, he has not changed his position on copyright. He added: “I still encourage anyone to copy, borrow, steal and amend my art for amusement, academic research or activism. I just don’t want them to get sole custody of my name.” You can borrow or steal his art as long as its for amusement or activism? Maybe tonight the windows get smashed and it's a free for all.. It's what Croydon is known for (unfortunately). For PR purposes I'm inclined to think they even expect it to happen.
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