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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Argiebaji on Oct 20, 2019 20:27:30 GMT 1, If anyone has a Rat GDP UK buyer approx 200£ message me? Thanks
If anyone has a Rat GDP UK buyer approx 200£ message me? Thanks
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Monsieur2T on Oct 20, 2019 21:00:27 GMT 1, If anyone has a Rat GDP UK buyer approx 200£ message me? Thanks sent you a PM.
If anyone has a Rat GDP UK buyer approx 200£ message me? Thanks sent you a PM.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by kjg on Oct 20, 2019 22:02:49 GMT 1, I took inspiration from the Dumbo print at GDP and went for plain black. The mount is really narrow, acting more like a spacer— would have used a black core mount if only it were acid free. 99% UV cast acrylic for reducing yellowing (all free of charge cos I’m a framer!) This was the most damaged rat we got, but once under the gloss of glazing looks good. I imagine directly pressed up against the glass would look flatter but on balance less great for conservation. image hosting
Would it be possible for you to tell me the dimensions of your frame and of the mount? I pressume it’s a 40x50 cm frame?
I took inspiration from the Dumbo print at GDP and went for plain black. The mount is really narrow, acting more like a spacer— would have used a black core mount if only it were acid free. 99% UV cast acrylic for reducing yellowing (all free of charge cos I’m a framer!) This was the most damaged rat we got, but once under the gloss of glazing looks good. I imagine directly pressed up against the glass would look flatter but on balance less great for conservation. image hostingWould it be possible for you to tell me the dimensions of your frame and of the mount? I pressume it’s a 40x50 cm frame?
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by trap door on Oct 20, 2019 22:41:25 GMT 1, This we made to measure, 2mm over paper size so around 508x388. Mount just sits on top hiding about 15mm of the print all round.
As for using a ready made, the art will need trimming if you want to get a rat inside a 50cm frame unfortunately.
This we made to measure, 2mm over paper size so around 508x388. Mount just sits on top hiding about 15mm of the print all round.
As for using a ready made, the art will need trimming if you want to get a rat inside a 50cm frame unfortunately.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by kjg on Oct 20, 2019 22:45:06 GMT 1, This we made to measure, 2mm over paper size so around 508x388. Mount just sits on top hiding about 15mm of the print all round. As for using a ready made, the art will need trimming if you want to get a rat inside a 50cm frame unfortunately.
Ok, thanks for this info :-)
This we made to measure, 2mm over paper size so around 508x388. Mount just sits on top hiding about 15mm of the print all round. As for using a ready made, the art will need trimming if you want to get a rat inside a 50cm frame unfortunately. Ok, thanks for this info :-)
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by psycho666 on Oct 21, 2019 11:19:58 GMT 1, I'm just having a look at what frame size to get for my rat print and I've come up with the following rough size for a black frame with a double mount:
www.pictureframesexpress.co.uk
Frame: Black / 20 x 22mm (W x H) / 6 x 19mm (W x H) Rebate
Print Size: 505 x 385mm Mount Opening: 475 x 355mm (30mm in from the edge of the print) Double Mount Square Mount Widths: 40 x 40 x 40 x 40mm (giving 10mm space between the edge of the print and frame) Top Mount Colour: Bright White or Soft White Bottom Mount Width: 5mm (5mm black showing behind the white mount) Base Mount Colour: Black
ClearView™ PlexiGlas (2mm) MDF Backing board Frame to Hang Backing Card: Museum
£56.00
EIDT: When using a mount they automatically subtract 8mm from the item width and height, so for the above I'd say the picture size was 22mm less than the actual size of the print, i.e. 483 x 363mm. This will make the mount opening 475 x 355mm after they automatically subtract the 8mm.
I'm just having a look at what frame size to get for my rat print and I've come up with the following rough size for a black frame with a double mount: www.pictureframesexpress.co.ukFrame: Black / 20 x 22mm (W x H) / 6 x 19mm (W x H) Rebate Print Size: 505 x 385mm Mount Opening: 475 x 355mm (30mm in from the edge of the print) Double Mount Square Mount Widths: 40 x 40 x 40 x 40mm (giving 10mm space between the edge of the print and frame) Top Mount Colour: Bright White or Soft White Bottom Mount Width: 5mm (5mm black showing behind the white mount) Base Mount Colour: Black ClearView™ PlexiGlas (2mm) MDF Backing board Frame to Hang Backing Card: Museum £56.00 EIDT: When using a mount they automatically subtract 8mm from the item width and height, so for the above I'd say the picture size was 22mm less than the actual size of the print, i.e. 483 x 363mm. This will make the mount opening 475 x 355mm after they automatically subtract the 8mm.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by bestdj777 on Oct 21, 2019 11:36:31 GMT 1, Anyone willing to part with one? Could do a partial trade of a Walled Off Hotel poster or just pay cash. Would never feel comfortable with one I purchased off of eBay.
Anyone willing to part with one? Could do a partial trade of a Walled Off Hotel poster or just pay cash. Would never feel comfortable with one I purchased off of eBay.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Jaylove on Oct 21, 2019 12:02:51 GMT 1, How much did these cost?
How much did these cost?
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Carl Cashman on Oct 21, 2019 12:06:17 GMT 1, Nothing, or morals for those that took 4 kids with them and are now flipping on ebay.
Nothing, or morals for those that took 4 kids with them and are now flipping on ebay.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by carly on Oct 21, 2019 12:14:33 GMT 1, Nothing, or morals for those that took 4 kids with them and are now flipping on ebay. I'd be reluctant to question the morales of SOME of the people selling these. As a rule I don't like flipping but I wouldn't class this as flipping. The reality is some of these people have never heard of Banksy and how could they justify keeping this when thier children's shoes might need replacing or they can book a holiday for the first time with the the proceeds. I say good luck to them I hope this little income boost gives a few family's not as fortunate as ourselves the chance of a nice Christmas and a little less stress.
Nothing, or morals for those that took 4 kids with them and are now flipping on ebay. I'd be reluctant to question the morales of SOME of the people selling these. As a rule I don't like flipping but I wouldn't class this as flipping. The reality is some of these people have never heard of Banksy and how could they justify keeping this when thier children's shoes might need replacing or they can book a holiday for the first time with the the proceeds. I say good luck to them I hope this little income boost gives a few family's not as fortunate as ourselves the chance of a nice Christmas and a little less stress.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Carl Cashman on Oct 21, 2019 12:19:16 GMT 1, Nothing, or morals for those that took 4 kids with them and are now flipping on ebay. I'd be reluctant to question the morales of SOME of the people selling these. As a rule I don't like flipping but I wouldn't class this as flipping. The reality is some of these people have never heard of Banksy and how could they justify keeping this when thier children's shoes might need replacing or they can book a holiday for the first time with the the proceeds. I say good luck to them I hope this little income boost gives a few family's not as fortunate as ourselves the chance of a nice Christmas and a little less stress. I mean yeah I get that, but when they are shipped from 500 miles away in Cornwall and have a Ebay shop stacked full of artworks purchased on the last month, that argument falls flat.
Nothing, or morals for those that took 4 kids with them and are now flipping on ebay. I'd be reluctant to question the morales of SOME of the people selling these. As a rule I don't like flipping but I wouldn't class this as flipping. The reality is some of these people have never heard of Banksy and how could they justify keeping this when thier children's shoes might need replacing or they can book a holiday for the first time with the the proceeds. I say good luck to them I hope this little income boost gives a few family's not as fortunate as ourselves the chance of a nice Christmas and a little less stress. I mean yeah I get that, but when they are shipped from 500 miles away in Cornwall and have a Ebay shop stacked full of artworks purchased on the last month, that argument falls flat.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Jaylove on Oct 21, 2019 12:26:43 GMT 1, Nothing, or morals for those that took 4 kids with them and are now flipping on ebay. Wow. It's a dirty game.
Nothing, or morals for those that took 4 kids with them and are now flipping on ebay. Wow. It's a dirty game.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Monsieur2T on Oct 21, 2019 12:39:36 GMT 1, If anyone London based and interested in purchasing one GDP rat print (+ one for me, as I am not in the UK) Please PM me as I have one seller willing to meet up in London for the transaction. He's selling them 2x200quid. I trust you for checking during the transaction that these are legits (I can share tons of close up photos, details, so you can make sure, or ideally bring an original one with you to compare it with).
Let me know!
T.
If anyone London based and interested in purchasing one GDP rat print (+ one for me, as I am not in the UK) Please PM me as I have one seller willing to meet up in London for the transaction. He's selling them 2x200quid. I trust you for checking during the transaction that these are legits (I can share tons of close up photos, details, so you can make sure, or ideally bring an original one with you to compare it with).
Let me know!
T.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Henry Gale Was Here on Oct 21, 2019 13:35:58 GMT 1, If anyone has a Rat GDP UK buyer approx 200£ message me? Thanks I am also still looking to pick one up, please PM me, thanks!!
If anyone has a Rat GDP UK buyer approx 200£ message me? Thanks I am also still looking to pick one up, please PM me, thanks!!
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Random Ginger Bloke on Oct 21, 2019 21:44:27 GMT 1, Probably at the end of a long list but anyone got a rat for sale? pm with price please and thank you:)
Probably at the end of a long list but anyone got a rat for sale? pm with price please and thank you:)
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by tab1 on Oct 21, 2019 21:50:01 GMT 1, Flower thrower Although lower amount released the rat is the one to get 👨🎨😬
Flower thrower Although lower amount released the rat is the one to get 👨🎨😬
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by 1970hopper on Oct 21, 2019 22:06:13 GMT 1, Quick question, anyone aware of different paper being used on the rat prints? I got two rat prints at GDP but one of mine (which Im keeping) seems to be done on slightly but noticeably thicker paper? Any info would be great Also have one rat print available anyone smell a rat
Quick question, anyone aware of different paper being used on the rat prints? I got two rat prints at GDP but one of mine (which Im keeping) seems to be done on slightly but noticeably thicker paper? Any info would be great Also have one rat print available anyone smell a rat
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by tab1 on Oct 21, 2019 23:10:53 GMT 1, Quick question, anyone aware of different paper being used on the rat prints? I got two rat prints at GDP but one of mine (which Im keeping) seems to be done on slightly but noticeably thicker paper? Any info would be great Also have one rat print available anyone smell a rat Which one is available ? The thicker one ?🤔
Quick question, anyone aware of different paper being used on the rat prints? I got two rat prints at GDP but one of mine (which Im keeping) seems to be done on slightly but noticeably thicker paper? Any info would be great Also have one rat print available anyone smell a rat Which one is available ? The thicker one ?🤔
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by avec art on Oct 21, 2019 23:39:28 GMT 1, this is my man who is selling rats for £200 but won't take paypal because apparently print collectors are always making claims of fake prints to open disputes
this is my man who is selling rats for £200 but won't take paypal because apparently print collectors are always making claims of fake prints to open disputes
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by ca on Oct 22, 2019 0:45:47 GMT 1, id pay 200 but would need shipping to Canada
id pay 200 but would need shipping to Canada
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by cmc on Oct 22, 2019 1:41:01 GMT 1, this is my man who is selling rats for £200 but won't take paypal because apparently print collectors are always making claims of fake prints to open disputes I decided to go with ebay as its safer for sellers rather than direct paypal through a forum that I have no experience selling on, and I've got returns accepted on ebay too so the buyers safe:) I can provide proof I was there and pictures with staff etc. This was to ask a question. The print in question isnt for sale either so I'm not trying to mislead anyone just get an opinion as to why out of the two one is on a more coarse bubbly paper
Its printed on bubble wrap? Caring couriers is that you?
Just kidding my man...inside joke.
If you have one of these on proper stock paper its likely to be something special and extremely unique. Post pics here if you can.
this is my man who is selling rats for £200 but won't take paypal because apparently print collectors are always making claims of fake prints to open disputes I decided to go with ebay as its safer for sellers rather than direct paypal through a forum that I have no experience selling on, and I've got returns accepted on ebay too so the buyers safe:) I can provide proof I was there and pictures with staff etc. This was to ask a question. The print in question isnt for sale either so I'm not trying to mislead anyone just get an opinion as to why out of the two one is on a more coarse bubbly paper Its printed on bubble wrap? Caring couriers is that you? Just kidding my man...inside joke. If you have one of these on proper stock paper its likely to be something special and extremely unique. Post pics here if you can.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by brockin123 on Oct 22, 2019 2:55:31 GMT 1, of one. thanks
of one. thanks
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by carly on Oct 22, 2019 3:40:37 GMT 1, Quick question, anyone aware of different paper being used on the rat prints? I got two rat prints at GDP but one of mine (which Im keeping) seems to be done on slightly but noticeably thicker paper? Any info would be great Also have one rat print available So you picked got these prints on the 13/10/19 but you have only just noticed one is on thicker stock paper?
A note to everyone these were only printed on one stock of paper. Even if tstark is not trying to sell them now mentioning them on this forum is an attempt to build a false provenance and history for future sells.
Anyone looking to buy one of these prints ask for high resolution close up images and ask a trusted forum member to cross reference for you. Don't let your heart rule your head.
Quick question, anyone aware of different paper being used on the rat prints? I got two rat prints at GDP but one of mine (which Im keeping) seems to be done on slightly but noticeably thicker paper? Any info would be great Also have one rat print available So you picked got these prints on the 13/10/19 but you have only just noticed one is on thicker stock paper? A note to everyone these were only printed on one stock of paper. Even if tstark is not trying to sell them now mentioning them on this forum is an attempt to build a false provenance and history for future sells. Anyone looking to buy one of these prints ask for high resolution close up images and ask a trusted forum member to cross reference for you. Don't let your heart rule your head.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by cmc on Oct 22, 2019 3:49:01 GMT 1, Its printed on bubble wrap? Caring couriers is that you? Just kidding my man...inside joke. If you have one of these on proper stock paper its likely to be something special and extremely unique. Post pics here if you can. ibb.co/BKGqBVLibb.co/jZ2VR6VHeres the two prints side by side. Left is the more coarse thicker one and right is the standard. You can see the right paper is smoother. Subtle but noticeable
Interesting - please show the print details now up close on each and full image.
Its printed on bubble wrap? Caring couriers is that you? Just kidding my man...inside joke. If you have one of these on proper stock paper its likely to be something special and extremely unique. Post pics here if you can. ibb.co/BKGqBVLibb.co/jZ2VR6VHeres the two prints side by side. Left is the more coarse thicker one and right is the standard. You can see the right paper is smoother. Subtle but noticeable
Interesting - please show the print details now up close on each and full image.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by tab1 on Oct 22, 2019 3:58:50 GMT 1, are you guys sure, if someone asked to rent one of my children off me, I don't think I'd react very positively Banksy has clouded most minds of recent show this thread to a non banksy work colleague and ask their thoughts ? some strange comments at times very much frowned upon In the past .
are you guys sure, if someone asked to rent one of my children off me, I don't think I'd react very positively Banksy has clouded most minds of recent show this thread to a non banksy work colleague and ask their thoughts ? some strange comments at times very much frowned upon In the past .
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by tab1 on Oct 22, 2019 4:02:03 GMT 1, Quick question, anyone aware of different paper being used on the rat prints? I got two rat prints at GDP but one of mine (which Im keeping) seems to be done on slightly but noticeably thicker paper? Any info would be great Also have one rat print available So you picked got these prints on the 13/10/19 but you have only just noticed one is on thicker stock paper? A note to everyone these were only printed on one stock of paper. Even if tstark is not trying to sell them now mentioning them on this forum is an attempt to build a false provenance and history for future sells. Anyone looking to buy one of these prints ask for high resolution close up images and ask a trusted forum member to cross reference for you. Don't let your heart rule your head. Ahh is that the plan?👨🎨🤑 anyone get the one printed on heavy set art stock paper , 11pm last day ?
Quick question, anyone aware of different paper being used on the rat prints? I got two rat prints at GDP but one of mine (which Im keeping) seems to be done on slightly but noticeably thicker paper? Any info would be great Also have one rat print available So you picked got these prints on the 13/10/19 but you have only just noticed one is on thicker stock paper? A note to everyone these were only printed on one stock of paper. Even if tstark is not trying to sell them now mentioning them on this forum is an attempt to build a false provenance and history for future sells. Anyone looking to buy one of these prints ask for high resolution close up images and ask a trusted forum member to cross reference for you. Don't let your heart rule your head. Ahh is that the plan?👨🎨🤑 anyone get the one printed on heavy set art stock paper , 11pm last day ?
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 4:11:29 GMT 1, are you guys sure, if someone asked to rent one of my children off me, I don't think I'd react very positively Banksy has clouded most minds of recent show this thread to a non banksy work colleague and ask their thoughts ? some strange comments at times very much frowned upon In the past . I told my friends to apply at work and they all said the cushions the tees the prints were too expensive so went with the can and the cups. I did not tell them about secondary values as was just interested in what general public may view the venture or website as.
are you guys sure, if someone asked to rent one of my children off me, I don't think I'd react very positively Banksy has clouded most minds of recent show this thread to a non banksy work colleague and ask their thoughts ? some strange comments at times very much frowned upon In the past . I told my friends to apply at work and they all said the cushions the tees the prints were too expensive so went with the can and the cups. I did not tell them about secondary values as was just interested in what general public may view the venture or website as.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by tab1 on Oct 22, 2019 5:43:49 GMT 1, Banksy has clouded most minds of recent show this thread to a non banksy work colleague and ask their thoughts ? some strange comments at times very much frowned upon In the past . I told my friends to apply at work and they all said the cushions the tees the prints were too expensive so went with the can and the cups. I did not tell them about secondary values as was just interested in what general public may view the venture or website as. Exactly , to us here it is viewed as cheap , but to the average public that are aware of banksy but unaware of the lower level items or market in general it is still viewed as expensive .most artwork they would have been aware of is from the media out lets which are usually high end auction pieces . So the first wave of sales on the secondary market may temp some of the general public to purchase other items .people usually need to see for themselves actual sales rather than be told before parting with cash sometimes
Banksy has clouded most minds of recent show this thread to a non banksy work colleague and ask their thoughts ? some strange comments at times very much frowned upon In the past . I told my friends to apply at work and they all said the cushions the tees the prints were too expensive so went with the can and the cups. I did not tell them about secondary values as was just interested in what general public may view the venture or website as. Exactly , to us here it is viewed as cheap , but to the average public that are aware of banksy but unaware of the lower level items or market in general it is still viewed as expensive .most artwork they would have been aware of is from the media out lets which are usually high end auction pieces . So the first wave of sales on the secondary market may temp some of the general public to purchase other items .people usually need to see for themselves actual sales rather than be told before parting with cash sometimes
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by avec art on Oct 22, 2019 8:25:25 GMT 1, In fairness without seeing the either of the two prints I wouldn't like to make assumptions, but the people who were not there and keen to get one, have to tread with extreme caution.
I pretty regularly purchase packs of expensive paper, unopened from source, and you can notice variations between them. This is mould made paper I am talking about. Sometimes it can be noticeably rougher to touch and almost feels as though it could be another paper type entirely.
I've not come across this in more standard papers, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if this was the case. I think clear photos of printed image should help settle concerns.
In fairness without seeing the either of the two prints I wouldn't like to make assumptions, but the people who were not there and keen to get one, have to tread with extreme caution.
I pretty regularly purchase packs of expensive paper, unopened from source, and you can notice variations between them. This is mould made paper I am talking about. Sometimes it can be noticeably rougher to touch and almost feels as though it could be another paper type entirely.
I've not come across this in more standard papers, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if this was the case. I think clear photos of printed image should help settle concerns.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by avec art on Oct 22, 2019 11:25:20 GMT 1, hi, it's not crazy, because a lot of us have been here for many years and we've seen every trick in the book. There are endless scammers and endless ways they try to scam people. The result is people are understandably cautious if not suspicious.
I didn't feel good about expressing my reservations about you not wishing to accept paypal. But I thought that if there is nothing deceptive happening, then expressing my suspicions wouldn't hurt and helps discourse.
I think variation is probable but within limits. It appears that genuine rat prints have fibres in the paper, which can be indicative of recycled paper being used. In both of your prints Muttint I can see the fibres but they are more pronounced in one than the other.
With regard to you going to ebay because you'll have a safer experience, I think that might not be the case. I don't think here generally people will be looking to make a dispute if nothing is wrong, and that they'd more likely try to solve any problems amicably.
We're all guilty of a bit of trolling from time to time, but generally I like to think we're just looking out for each other.
hi, it's not crazy, because a lot of us have been here for many years and we've seen every trick in the book. There are endless scammers and endless ways they try to scam people. The result is people are understandably cautious if not suspicious. I didn't feel good about expressing my reservations about you not wishing to accept paypal. But I thought that if there is nothing deceptive happening, then expressing my suspicions wouldn't hurt and helps discourse. I think variation is probable but within limits. It appears that genuine rat prints have fibres in the paper, which can be indicative of recycled paper being used. In both of your prints Muttint I can see the fibres but they are more pronounced in one than the other. With regard to you going to ebay because you'll have a safer experience, I think that might not be the case. I don't think here generally people will be looking to make a dispute if nothing is wrong, and that they'd more likely try to solve any problems amicably. We're all guilty of a bit of trolling from time to time, but generally I like to think we're just looking out for each other.
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