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Banksy Welcome Mat, by state on Jun 28, 2020 19:17:11 GMT 1, Pawel, , I purchased two like I mentioned. Iโve waited months to receive em, I was out of that money for a long time. I donโt know if youโre familiar with love welcome site, but they have an option to donate to the refugee women while youโre placing an order. Iโve donated $100 on top of cost for each mat. I just donโt understand why there are so many angry people telling me what I should do with my personal property. So many hypocrites, because I know for a fact when the day comes for anyone to sell a piece in their collection, they wonโt be selling for cost. They will be selling for current market price.
So many salty grown men here ๐ฌ
Pawel, , I purchased two like I mentioned. Iโve waited months to receive em, I was out of that money for a long time. I donโt know if youโre familiar with love welcome site, but they have an option to donate to the refugee women while youโre placing an order. Iโve donated $100 on top of cost for each mat. I just donโt understand why there are so many angry people telling me what I should do with my personal property. So many hypocrites, because I know for a fact when the day comes for anyone to sell a piece in their collection, they wonโt be selling for cost. They will be selling for current market price.
So many salty grown men here ๐ฌ
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Lazarus II
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Lazarus II on Jun 28, 2020 19:41:59 GMT 1, Pawel, , I purchased two like I mentioned. Iโve waited months to receive em, I was out of that money for a long time. I donโt know if youโre familiar with love welcome site, but they have an option to donate to the refugee women while youโre placing an order. Iโve donated $100 on top of cost for each mat. I just donโt understand why there are so many angry people telling me what I should do with my personal property. So many hypocrites, because I know for a fact when the day comes for anyone to sell a piece in their collection, they wonโt be selling for cost. They will be selling for current market price. So many salty grown men here ๐ฌ and women.
Pawel, , I purchased two like I mentioned. Iโve waited months to receive em, I was out of that money for a long time. I donโt know if youโre familiar with love welcome site, but they have an option to donate to the refugee women while youโre placing an order. Iโve donated $100 on top of cost for each mat. I just donโt understand why there are so many angry people telling me what I should do with my personal property. So many hypocrites, because I know for a fact when the day comes for anyone to sell a piece in their collection, they wonโt be selling for cost. They will be selling for current market price. So many salty grown men here ๐ฌ and women.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by state on Jun 28, 2020 19:50:13 GMT 1, Noted, thank you for explaining plain and simple.
Noted, thank you for explaining plain and simple.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 19:54:18 GMT 1, Apologies but tenure does count actually. Gives you credibility over time, which is clearly the only way to build trust amongst members
Applause to stikfan....and Brillobox, I have food in my pantry longer than you've been a member here (assuming you didn't just create a new account). Don't pretend you know anything about how these were made, where they were made, why they were made, etc. You think they were done in a "factory"? Anyone here with half a heart would have donated proceeds from an immediate flip to Lighthouse Relief, Cafe Rits, IAMYOU, etc... Reality is that these should have sold for 1500-2000 quid....weed out the morons. I think Stifan and I had a pretty snappy back and forth and I for one enjoyed our little debate! I like people with an opinion even if I disagree with it! This is an online forum - tenure means nothing. If you had read my comment, you would realise I am simply bringing light to the fact that everyone is hard done by in one way or another. That's a larger conversation. Do you honestly think that the Banksy team didn't realise people would flip these? The majority of people wouldn't have touched these doormats if it wasn't for the Banksy hype. Nobody has to do anything. If someone sells one at a profit and donates a chunk to a charity, great. If they don't, so be it.
Apologies but tenure does count actually. Gives you credibility over time, which is clearly the only way to build trust amongst members Applause to stikfan....and Brillobox, I have food in my pantry longer than you've been a member here (assuming you didn't just create a new account). Don't pretend you know anything about how these were made, where they were made, why they were made, etc. You think they were done in a "factory"? Anyone here with half a heart would have donated proceeds from an immediate flip to Lighthouse Relief, Cafe Rits, IAMYOU, etc... Reality is that these should have sold for 1500-2000 quid....weed out the morons. I think Stifan and I had a pretty snappy back and forth and I for one enjoyed our little debate! I like people with an opinion even if I disagree with it! This is an online forum - tenure means nothing. If you had read my comment, you would realise I am simply bringing light to the fact that everyone is hard done by in one way or another. That's a larger conversation. Do you honestly think that the Banksy team didn't realise people would flip these? The majority of people wouldn't have touched these doormats if it wasn't for the Banksy hype. Nobody has to do anything. If someone sells one at a profit and donates a chunk to a charity, great. If they don't, so be it.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by lorraballs on Jun 28, 2020 20:15:09 GMT 1, Apologies but tenure does count actually. Gives you credibility over time, which is clearly the only way to build trust amongst members I think Stifan and I had a pretty snappy back and forth and I for one enjoyed our little debate! I like people with an opinion even if I disagree with it! This is an online forum - tenure means nothing. If you had read my comment, you would realise I am simply bringing light to the fact that everyone is hard done by in one way or another. That's a larger conversation. Do you honestly think that the Banksy team didn't realise people would flip these? The majority of people wouldn't have touched these doormats if it wasn't for the Banksy hype. Nobody has to do anything. If someone sells one at a profit and donates a chunk to a charity, great. If they don't, so be it. Tenure counts? Really? Some of the longest tenured members on here I wouldnโt trust to hold my pint...
Apologies but tenure does count actually. Gives you credibility over time, which is clearly the only way to build trust amongst members I think Stifan and I had a pretty snappy back and forth and I for one enjoyed our little debate! I like people with an opinion even if I disagree with it! This is an online forum - tenure means nothing. If you had read my comment, you would realise I am simply bringing light to the fact that everyone is hard done by in one way or another. That's a larger conversation. Do you honestly think that the Banksy team didn't realise people would flip these? The majority of people wouldn't have touched these doormats if it wasn't for the Banksy hype. Nobody has to do anything. If someone sells one at a profit and donates a chunk to a charity, great. If they don't, so be it. Tenure counts? Really? Some of the longest tenured members on here I wouldnโt trust to hold my pint...
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Lazarus II
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Lazarus II on Jun 28, 2020 20:17:22 GMT 1, What pint ? A pint you say, never saw it....
What pint ? A pint you say, never saw it....
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lorraballs
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by lorraballs on Jun 28, 2020 20:21:21 GMT 1, Pawel, , I purchased two like I mentioned. Iโve waited months to receive em, I was out of that money for a long time. I donโt know if youโre familiar with love welcome site, but they have an option to donate to the refugee women while youโre placing an order. Iโve donated $100 on top of cost for each mat. I just donโt understand why there are so many angry people telling me what I should do with my personal property. So many hypocrites, because I know for a fact when the day comes for anyone to sell a piece in their collection, they wonโt be selling for cost. They will be selling for current market price. So many salty grown men here ๐ฌ The short answer is the community here doesn't like or appreciate quick flips. Keep that to eBay or stockx. Most people selling from their collection are selling prints that have either been in a flat file and won't make the wall or hanging on the wall and need to be sold to make room for something else. Quick flips are lazy and greedy. Youโre talking shat. This place is 95% chancers, flyboys and thieves. The other 5% is Met.
Pawel, , I purchased two like I mentioned. Iโve waited months to receive em, I was out of that money for a long time. I donโt know if youโre familiar with love welcome site, but they have an option to donate to the refugee women while youโre placing an order. Iโve donated $100 on top of cost for each mat. I just donโt understand why there are so many angry people telling me what I should do with my personal property. So many hypocrites, because I know for a fact when the day comes for anyone to sell a piece in their collection, they wonโt be selling for cost. They will be selling for current market price. So many salty grown men here ๐ฌ The short answer is the community here doesn't like or appreciate quick flips. Keep that to eBay or stockx. Most people selling from their collection are selling prints that have either been in a flat file and won't make the wall or hanging on the wall and need to be sold to make room for something else. Quick flips are lazy and greedy. Youโre talking shat. This place is 95% chancers, flyboys and thieves. The other 5% is Met.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Coach on Jun 28, 2020 21:10:15 GMT 1, Pawel, , I purchased two like I mentioned. Iโve waited months to receive em, I was out of that money for a long time. I donโt know if youโre familiar with love welcome site, but they have an option to donate to the refugee women while youโre placing an order. Iโve donated $100 on top of cost for each mat. I just donโt understand why there are so many angry people telling me what I should do with my personal property. So many hypocrites, because I know for a fact when the day comes for anyone to sell a piece in their collection, they wonโt be selling for cost. They will be selling for current market price. So many salty grown men here ๐ฌ The short answer is the community here doesn't like or appreciate quick flips. Keep that to eBay or stockx. Most people selling from their collection are selling prints that have either been in a flat file and won't make the wall or hanging on the wall and need to be sold to make room for something else. Quick flips are lazy and greedy.
I agree with you. Flipping is parasitical. Itโs making a quick buck out of the artistic endeavour of someone else, to the detriment of fellow collectors. It will always happen, but, as you say, I think it should be discouraged here, and taken elsewhere. That doesnโt mean to say that I think that selling should be discouraged. Or that itโs wrong to sell for current value. For me itโs about the intention when the piece was bought. If it was bought specifically to sell for a profit, then itโs a flip. Selling because a piece no longer holds appeal, or because one is in need of funds is different. One tends to know when someone is doing the former or the latter, and passage of time is indicative of the latter. This is very much my personal opinion. Others are entitled to their contrary view (and hopefully we donโt need to trade insults to make the point). 10+ years ago flipping was more actively discouraged than it is now. I accept that mine may now be a minority view, and so have not mentioned it for a long time. I mention it now only because it is apropos the conversation that is now being had.
Pawel, , I purchased two like I mentioned. Iโve waited months to receive em, I was out of that money for a long time. I donโt know if youโre familiar with love welcome site, but they have an option to donate to the refugee women while youโre placing an order. Iโve donated $100 on top of cost for each mat. I just donโt understand why there are so many angry people telling me what I should do with my personal property. So many hypocrites, because I know for a fact when the day comes for anyone to sell a piece in their collection, they wonโt be selling for cost. They will be selling for current market price. So many salty grown men here ๐ฌ The short answer is the community here doesn't like or appreciate quick flips. Keep that to eBay or stockx. Most people selling from their collection are selling prints that have either been in a flat file and won't make the wall or hanging on the wall and need to be sold to make room for something else. Quick flips are lazy and greedy. I agree with you. Flipping is parasitical. Itโs making a quick buck out of the artistic endeavour of someone else, to the detriment of fellow collectors. It will always happen, but, as you say, I think it should be discouraged here, and taken elsewhere. That doesnโt mean to say that I think that selling should be discouraged. Or that itโs wrong to sell for current value. For me itโs about the intention when the piece was bought. If it was bought specifically to sell for a profit, then itโs a flip. Selling because a piece no longer holds appeal, or because one is in need of funds is different. One tends to know when someone is doing the former or the latter, and passage of time is indicative of the latter. This is very much my personal opinion. Others are entitled to their contrary view (and hopefully we donโt need to trade insults to make the point). 10+ years ago flipping was more actively discouraged than it is now. I accept that mine may now be a minority view, and so have not mentioned it for a long time. I mention it now only because it is apropos the conversation that is now being had.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by lorraballs on Jun 28, 2020 21:20:51 GMT 1, The short answer is the community here doesn't like or appreciate quick flips. Keep that to eBay or stockx. Most people selling from their collection are selling prints that have either been in a flat file and won't make the wall or hanging on the wall and need to be sold to make room for something else. Quick flips are lazy and greedy. I agree with you. Flipping is parasitical. Itโs making a quick buck out of the artistic endeavour of someone else, to the detriment of fellow collectors. It will always happen, but, as you say, I think it should be discouraged here, and taken elsewhere. That doesnโt mean to say that I think that selling should be discouraged. Or that itโs wrong to sell for current value. For me itโs about the intention when the piece was bought. If it was bought specifically to sell for a profit, then itโs a flip. Selling because a piece no longer holds appeal, or because one is in need of funds is different. One tends to know when someone is doing the former or the latter, and passage of time is indicative of the latter. This is very much my personal opinion. Others are entitled to their contrary view (and hopefully we donโt need to trade insults to make the point). 10+ years ago flipping was more actively discouraged than it is now. I accept that mine may now be a minority view, and so have not mentioned it for a long time. I mention it now only because it is apropos the conversation that is now being had. I donโt disagree with you, Coach. You know who I am and how long Iโve been kicking around. The statement was โthe community here doesn't like or appreciate quick flipsโ . Now that is manifest hypocrisy. 90% of the bad art that is sold is cos some fool on here fell for flip hype. This is far from the community it once was. Indeed, Iโd argue it isnโt a community. More an amalgam of vaguely, barely similar interests. Iโve been this present identity for 8 years and can hardly bear to post most of the time...
The short answer is the community here doesn't like or appreciate quick flips. Keep that to eBay or stockx. Most people selling from their collection are selling prints that have either been in a flat file and won't make the wall or hanging on the wall and need to be sold to make room for something else. Quick flips are lazy and greedy. I agree with you. Flipping is parasitical. Itโs making a quick buck out of the artistic endeavour of someone else, to the detriment of fellow collectors. It will always happen, but, as you say, I think it should be discouraged here, and taken elsewhere. That doesnโt mean to say that I think that selling should be discouraged. Or that itโs wrong to sell for current value. For me itโs about the intention when the piece was bought. If it was bought specifically to sell for a profit, then itโs a flip. Selling because a piece no longer holds appeal, or because one is in need of funds is different. One tends to know when someone is doing the former or the latter, and passage of time is indicative of the latter. This is very much my personal opinion. Others are entitled to their contrary view (and hopefully we donโt need to trade insults to make the point). 10+ years ago flipping was more actively discouraged than it is now. I accept that mine may now be a minority view, and so have not mentioned it for a long time. I mention it now only because it is apropos the conversation that is now being had. I donโt disagree with you, Coach. You know who I am and how long Iโve been kicking around. The statement was โthe community here doesn't like or appreciate quick flipsโ . Now that is manifest hypocrisy. 90% of the bad art that is sold is cos some fool on here fell for flip hype. This is far from the community it once was. Indeed, Iโd argue it isnโt a community. More an amalgam of vaguely, barely similar interests. Iโve been this present identity for 8 years and can hardly bear to post most of the time...
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by moonkeyjunkie on Jun 28, 2020 21:58:03 GMT 1, I agree with you. Flipping is parasitical. Itโs making a quick buck out of the artistic endeavour of someone else, to the detriment of fellow collectors. It will always happen, but, as you say, I think it should be discouraged here, and taken elsewhere. That doesnโt mean to say that I think that selling should be discouraged. Or that itโs wrong to sell for current value. For me itโs about the intention when the piece was bought. If it was bought specifically to sell for a profit, then itโs a flip. Selling because a piece no longer holds appeal, or because one is in need of funds is different. One tends to know when someone is doing the former or the latter, and passage of time is indicative of the latter. This is very much my personal opinion. Others are entitled to their contrary view (and hopefully we donโt need to trade insults to make the point). 10+ years ago flipping was more actively discouraged than it is now. I accept that mine may now be a minority view, and so have not mentioned it for a long time. I mention it now only because it is apropos the conversation that is now being had. I donโt disagree with you, Coach. You know who I am and how long Iโve been kicking around. The statement was โthe community here doesn't like or appreciate quick flipsโ . Now that is manifest hypocrisy. 90% of the bad art that is sold is cos some fool on here fell for flip hype. This is far from the community it once was. Indeed, Iโd argue it isnโt a community. More an amalgam of vaguely, barely similar interests. Iโve been this present identity for 8 years and can hardly bear to post most of the time...
I agree with you. Flipping is parasitical. Itโs making a quick buck out of the artistic endeavour of someone else, to the detriment of fellow collectors. It will always happen, but, as you say, I think it should be discouraged here, and taken elsewhere. That doesnโt mean to say that I think that selling should be discouraged. Or that itโs wrong to sell for current value. For me itโs about the intention when the piece was bought. If it was bought specifically to sell for a profit, then itโs a flip. Selling because a piece no longer holds appeal, or because one is in need of funds is different. One tends to know when someone is doing the former or the latter, and passage of time is indicative of the latter. This is very much my personal opinion. Others are entitled to their contrary view (and hopefully we donโt need to trade insults to make the point). 10+ years ago flipping was more actively discouraged than it is now. I accept that mine may now be a minority view, and so have not mentioned it for a long time. I mention it now only because it is apropos the conversation that is now being had. I donโt disagree with you, Coach. You know who I am and how long Iโve been kicking around. The statement was โthe community here doesn't like or appreciate quick flipsโ . Now that is manifest hypocrisy. 90% of the bad art that is sold is cos some fool on here fell for flip hype. This is far from the community it once was. Indeed, Iโd argue it isnโt a community. More an amalgam of vaguely, barely similar interests. Iโve been this present identity for 8 years and can hardly bear to post most of the time...
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by moonkeyjunkie on Jun 28, 2020 22:12:11 GMT 1, I donโt disagree with you, Coach. You know who I am and how long Iโve been kicking around. The statement was โthe community here doesn't like or appreciate quick flipsโ . Now that is manifest hypocrisy. 90% of the bad art that is sold is cos some fool on here fell for flip hype. This is far from the community it once was. Indeed, Iโd argue it isnโt a community. More an amalgam of vaguely, barely similar interests. Iโve been this present identity for 8 years and can hardly bear to post most of the time...
But all this is so hypercritical!!! POW and banksy encouraged flipping back in 2003/4 to build heโs there brand.. happily letting people buy multiples to flip to the Far East on eBay... brought for 50 or 70 quid opening encouraging them to flip it as it was a win win! Then stop and search happened to me I managed to get one which was the first I had trouble buying ... in the early days I brought what the fuck I wanted! I needed the money from stop and search as my design business was in trouble and I sold it before it was in hand! As I needed the cash... POW Cancelled it which is fair enough but whoa me and my brother in law brought up to a hundred pieces to maybe build his brand from the 2000s ... I guess needs must .. still love banksy and visited the walled off once and went too the gdp lucky enough to get the thrower and a rat! Fuck me been a fan over 20 years ... divorce left me selling my Nola to my ex for 2k, big money at the time! Signed have a nice day too for 8k and many more... now back alls good and collecting what I like beautiful seen originals and need my parla st Giles back and any dface yellow pop tarts out there? .. sorry for the ramble but I fucking love art but needs must!
I donโt disagree with you, Coach. You know who I am and how long Iโve been kicking around. The statement was โthe community here doesn't like or appreciate quick flipsโ . Now that is manifest hypocrisy. 90% of the bad art that is sold is cos some fool on here fell for flip hype. This is far from the community it once was. Indeed, Iโd argue it isnโt a community. More an amalgam of vaguely, barely similar interests. Iโve been this present identity for 8 years and can hardly bear to post most of the time... But all this is so hypercritical!!! POW and banksy encouraged flipping back in 2003/4 to build heโs there brand.. happily letting people buy multiples to flip to the Far East on eBay... brought for 50 or 70 quid opening encouraging them to flip it as it was a win win! Then stop and search happened to me I managed to get one which was the first I had trouble buying ... in the early days I brought what the fuck I wanted! I needed the money from stop and search as my design business was in trouble and I sold it before it was in hand! As I needed the cash... POW Cancelled it which is fair enough but whoa me and my brother in law brought up to a hundred pieces to maybe build his brand from the 2000s ... I guess needs must .. still love banksy and visited the walled off once and went too the gdp lucky enough to get the thrower and a rat! Fuck me been a fan over 20 years ... divorce left me selling my Nola to my ex for 2k, big money at the time! Signed have a nice day too for 8k and many more... now back alls good and collecting what I like beautiful seen originals and need my parla st Giles back and any dface yellow pop tarts out there? .. sorry for the ramble but I fucking love art but needs must!
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by King Ryan Sturtz on Jun 28, 2020 22:26:51 GMT 1, SOLD... With all the hate on here seller was a pleasure to do business with.
SOLD... With all the hate on here seller was a pleasure to do business with.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by met on Jun 28, 2020 22:57:26 GMT 1, I don't want to come across as a wankpuffin, especially on a Sunday of all days, but if Love Welcomes has said please be patient, we are making more; and then if you offer up one for sale now (as is your wanking right) and someone with no patience, or perhaps even no desire to help Love Welcomes (there's a lot of arseholes out there) buys it (as is their wanking right), then Love Welcomes only gets one portion of profit from two (at least) customers purchasing mats. And that's not nice. Nor is buying a mat right now for a squillion pounds, instead of waiting and buying one from the charity directly. You want to help the charity as much as possible right? Your need to own something right now, doesn't supersede your desire to help refugee women, right? I think if you were selling these long after Love Welcomes has ceased producing/selling them, or if you were passing your profits onto another charitable cause, then that's a different moral bucket of fish. Or something. Also, if your circumstances changed since you placed your order, I dunno?- maybe found yourself out of work, and you've already sold all your trainers, watches and grandmother or something, I would get the need to sell and make a profit. But, whatever, we all have to live with ourselves, the consequences of our actions, and the opinions of others. Just don't be a dick. Nobody likes a dick. Have you seen one? Awful looking things. That's it. Now call me a wanker and have a lovely day. Iโm only commenting because โwankpuffinโ is now my favourite new expression. I wonder if I can use it in a professional context during tomorrowโs team meeting...
Let's leave this wankpuffinery aside for the time being, and move on to the next item on our agenda.
I don't want to come across as a wankpuffin, especially on a Sunday of all days, but if Love Welcomes has said please be patient, we are making more; and then if you offer up one for sale now (as is your wanking right) and someone with no patience, or perhaps even no desire to help Love Welcomes (there's a lot of arseholes out there) buys it (as is their wanking right), then Love Welcomes only gets one portion of profit from two (at least) customers purchasing mats. And that's not nice. Nor is buying a mat right now for a squillion pounds, instead of waiting and buying one from the charity directly. You want to help the charity as much as possible right? Your need to own something right now, doesn't supersede your desire to help refugee women, right? I think if you were selling these long after Love Welcomes has ceased producing/selling them, or if you were passing your profits onto another charitable cause, then that's a different moral bucket of fish. Or something. Also, if your circumstances changed since you placed your order, I dunno?- maybe found yourself out of work, and you've already sold all your trainers, watches and grandmother or something, I would get the need to sell and make a profit. But, whatever, we all have to live with ourselves, the consequences of our actions, and the opinions of others. Just don't be a dick. Nobody likes a dick. Have you seen one? Awful looking things. That's it. Now call me a wanker and have a lovely day. Iโm only commenting because โwankpuffinโ is now my favourite new expression. I wonder if I can use it in a professional context during tomorrowโs team meeting... Let's leave this wankpuffinery aside for the time being, and move on to the next item on our agenda.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by irl1 on Jun 28, 2020 23:27:59 GMT 1, Happy days ............
Happy days ............
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by moonkeyjunkie on Jun 28, 2020 23:29:48 GMT 1, Iโm only commenting because โwankpuffinโ is now my favourite new expression. I wonder if I can use it in a professional context during tomorrowโs team meeting... Let's leave this wankpuffinery aside for the time being, and move on to the next item on our agenda.
Whyโs that because youโve no idea what youโre talking about?
Iโm only commenting because โwankpuffinโ is now my favourite new expression. I wonder if I can use it in a professional context during tomorrowโs team meeting... Let's leave this wankpuffinery aside for the time being, and move on to the next item on our agenda.Whyโs that because youโve no idea what youโre talking about?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by jonvespa on Jun 29, 2020 15:22:11 GMT 1, Applause to stikfan....and Brillobox, I have food in my pantry longer than you've been a member here (assuming you didn't just create a new account). Don't pretend you know anything about how these were made, where they were made, why they were made, etc. You think they were done in a "factory"? Anyone here with half a heart would have donated proceeds from an immediate flip to Lighthouse Relief, Cafe Rits, IAMYOU, etc... Reality is that these should have sold for 1500-2000 quid....weed out the morons. I think Stifan and I had a pretty snappy back and forth and I for one enjoyed our little debate! I like people with an opinion even if I disagree with it! This is an online forum - tenure means nothing. If you had read my comment, you would realise I am simply bringing light to the fact that everyone is hard done by in one way or another. That's a larger conversation. Do you honestly think that the Banksy team didn't realise people would flip these? The majority of people wouldn't have touched these doormats if it wasn't for the Banksy hype. Nobody has to do anything. If someone sells one at a profit and donates a chunk to a charity, great. If they don't, so be it. I volunteered at the very camp where these are made back in 2016, even coincidently befriended a family featured on Love Welcomes page (the chances of that are pretty slim, as there were 800 residents when I was there). I went back three times to Greece (and Germany four times to work with refugees), started an NGO to help transport families to the closest city from the camp to buy food, and still talk to (and financially support) families from that camp on a daily basis. So yeah, a bit sensitive to the fact that quite a few people here have no idea what these people went through to get to Greece in the first place and what they're going through now. The camp has surged to over 3000 people, and Greece is trying to shut down the NGO's (as they've enacted rather strict and confusing guidelines to work in the camps). They've stopped the apartment program (where refugees would reside after leaving the camp and until they left for their host country), so Athens has been inundated with homeless families sleeping on the street.
So yeah, to me personally, it's a bit insensitive to take a handmade item like this, that literally has life preserver material from refugees from their trek, and just immediately flip it so you can buy some pints.
If you have any interest in learning about some of the people who made these (the camp, although considered a Syrian refugee camp, actually has refugees from all over), I would suggest watching CRIES FROM SYRIA, then watch IT WILL BE CHAOS which chronicles the trip from Syria to Turkey to Greece and beyond.....and for dessert, maybe watch HOME (channel 4 in the UK), which is lighthearted and the first comedy I've seen with a "Syrian refugee" as the star.
Applause to stikfan....and Brillobox, I have food in my pantry longer than you've been a member here (assuming you didn't just create a new account). Don't pretend you know anything about how these were made, where they were made, why they were made, etc. You think they were done in a "factory"? Anyone here with half a heart would have donated proceeds from an immediate flip to Lighthouse Relief, Cafe Rits, IAMYOU, etc... Reality is that these should have sold for 1500-2000 quid....weed out the morons. I think Stifan and I had a pretty snappy back and forth and I for one enjoyed our little debate! I like people with an opinion even if I disagree with it! This is an online forum - tenure means nothing. If you had read my comment, you would realise I am simply bringing light to the fact that everyone is hard done by in one way or another. That's a larger conversation. Do you honestly think that the Banksy team didn't realise people would flip these? The majority of people wouldn't have touched these doormats if it wasn't for the Banksy hype. Nobody has to do anything. If someone sells one at a profit and donates a chunk to a charity, great. If they don't, so be it. I volunteered at the very camp where these are made back in 2016, even coincidently befriended a family featured on Love Welcomes page (the chances of that are pretty slim, as there were 800 residents when I was there). I went back three times to Greece (and Germany four times to work with refugees), started an NGO to help transport families to the closest city from the camp to buy food, and still talk to (and financially support) families from that camp on a daily basis. So yeah, a bit sensitive to the fact that quite a few people here have no idea what these people went through to get to Greece in the first place and what they're going through now. The camp has surged to over 3000 people, and Greece is trying to shut down the NGO's (as they've enacted rather strict and confusing guidelines to work in the camps). They've stopped the apartment program (where refugees would reside after leaving the camp and until they left for their host country), so Athens has been inundated with homeless families sleeping on the street. So yeah, to me personally, it's a bit insensitive to take a handmade item like this, that literally has life preserver material from refugees from their trek, and just immediately flip it so you can buy some pints. If you have any interest in learning about some of the people who made these (the camp, although considered a Syrian refugee camp, actually has refugees from all over), I would suggest watching CRIES FROM SYRIA, then watch IT WILL BE CHAOS which chronicles the trip from Syria to Turkey to Greece and beyond.....and for dessert, maybe watch HOME (channel 4 in the UK), which is lighthearted and the first comedy I've seen with a "Syrian refugee" as the star.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Express Post on Jun 29, 2020 15:27:23 GMT 1, I'd behave holier than the pope if someone paid me resale for my Air Dior Lows.
No news from state, so that whole collecting backstory is bs, and they are only on here to sell.
SOLD... With all the hate on here seller was a pleasure to do business with.
I'd behave holier than the pope if someone paid me resale for my Air Dior Lows. No news from state, so that whole collecting backstory is bs, and they are only on here to sell. SOLD... With all the hate on here seller was a pleasure to do business with.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by irl1 on Jun 29, 2020 16:54:51 GMT 1, I always feel like, if I were ever to quote-reply to Met on here, I would have to be at the absolute top of my forum posting game. I would need a dictionary, a thesaurus, to be sober - the works; and still, still, I'd be f*cking terrified of making an arse of myself. I'm not gonna lie, Met makes me feel intellectually insecure. And that's why I drink. drip please this is done and dusted for good!
I always feel like, if I were ever to quote-reply to Met on here, I would have to be at the absolute top of my forum posting game. I would need a dictionary, a thesaurus, to be sober - the works; and still, still, I'd be f*cking terrified of making an arse of myself. I'm not gonna lie, Met makes me feel intellectually insecure. And that's why I drink. drip please this is done and dusted for good!
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by state on Jun 29, 2020 19:54:19 GMT 1, I'd behave holier than the pope if someone paid me resale for my Air Dior Lows. No news from state, so that whole collecting backstory is bs, and they are only on here to sell. SOLD... With all the hate on here seller was a pleasure to do business with. nobody wants your air dior lows. already pre ordered the highs thank you very much though!
I'd behave holier than the pope if someone paid me resale for my Air Dior Lows. No news from state, so that whole collecting backstory is bs, and they are only on here to sell. SOLD... With all the hate on here seller was a pleasure to do business with. nobody wants your air dior lows. already pre ordered the highs thank you very much though!
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Express Post on Jun 30, 2020 3:56:14 GMT 1, You sure about nobody wanting air dior lows?
Tell ur friends. I'm offering to help those in the sneaker community just like how you have offered to help those in the art community with the banksy mat. One good turn deserves another.
I'd behave holier than the pope if someone paid me resale for my Air Dior Lows. No news from state, so that whole collecting backstory is bs, and they are only on here to sell. nobody wants your air dior lows. already pre ordered the highs thank you very much though!ย
You sure about nobody wanting air dior lows? Tell ur friends. I'm offering to help those in the sneaker community just like how you have offered to help those in the art community with the banksy mat. One good turn deserves another. I'd behave holier than the pope if someone paid me resale for my Air Dior Lows. No news from state, so that whole collecting backstory is bs, and they are only on here to sell. nobody wants your air dior lows. already pre ordered the highs thank you very much though!ย
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Whitefish on Jun 30, 2020 13:30:16 GMT 1, Site Update!
www.lovewelcomes.com/
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irl1
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by irl1 on Jun 30, 2020 13:30:42 GMT 1, We are back! During lockdown we have been busy creating new products and updating our website and identity. Please check it out. What do you think?
One of the new partnerships we have formed is with the inspiring Preemptive Love organisation and we are proud to be selling a range of their soaps made by refugees.
We are so happy to be back and thank you for staying with us. We cannot do this without you. Please take time to look around and purchase a gift today.
LOVE SUPPORTS. LOVE LIFTS. LOVE WELCOMES.
www.lovewelcomes.org/?mc_cid=cbee40ae4a&mc_eid=7e364e277d
We are back! During lockdown we have been busy creating new products and updating our website and identity. Please check it out. What do you think? One of the new partnerships we have formed is with the inspiring Preemptive Love organisation and we are proud to be selling a range of their soaps made by refugees. We are so happy to be back and thank you for staying with us. We cannot do this without you. Please take time to look around and purchase a gift today. LOVE SUPPORTS. LOVE LIFTS. LOVE WELCOMES. www.lovewelcomes.org/?mc_cid=cbee40ae4a&mc_eid=7e364e277d
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by The Italian One on Jun 30, 2020 13:33:23 GMT 1, there will be more banksy "welcome mat"?
there will be more banksy "welcome mat"?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by irl1 on Jun 30, 2020 13:38:22 GMT 1, there will be more banksy "welcome mat"? Yeh she said not to buy on the secondary market as they will be making more
They are also still taking names for the waiting list
there will be more banksy "welcome mat"? Yeh she said not to buy on the secondary market as they will be making more They are also still taking names for the waiting list
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thomasmer
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by thomasmer on Jun 30, 2020 14:37:15 GMT 1, Such a nice idea.
Such a nice idea.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by therivler1 on Jun 30, 2020 15:42:40 GMT 1, anyone still waiting for delivery? The tracking number from the June 12 email hasn't moved. I'm in the US.
anyone still waiting for delivery? The tracking number from the June 12 email hasn't moved. I'm in the US.
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Con Art Studio
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Con Art Studio on Jun 30, 2020 18:48:10 GMT 1, anyone still waiting for delivery? The tracking number from the June 12 email hasn't moved. I'm in the US. I got mine last week BUT they didn't put the street address on the shipping label, it just had my name, town, state, zip... my tracking basically went directly to "package waiting for pickup" since they couldn't deliver something without a street address. luckily the postal worker noticed the issue and recognized my name when they received it and I went to the post office to pick it up.
anyone still waiting for delivery? The tracking number from the June 12 email hasn't moved. I'm in the US. I got mine last week BUT they didn't put the street address on the shipping label, it just had my name, town, state, zip... my tracking basically went directly to "package waiting for pickup" since they couldn't deliver something without a street address. luckily the postal worker noticed the issue and recognized my name when they received it and I went to the post office to pick it up.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Con Art Studio on Jun 30, 2020 20:05:01 GMT 1, anyone still waiting for delivery? The tracking number from the June 12 email hasn't moved. I'm in the US. also, are you checking the tracking on USPS? if not, then you should track it there.
anyone still waiting for delivery? The tracking number from the June 12 email hasn't moved. I'm in the US. also, are you checking the tracking on USPS? if not, then you should track it there.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by therivler1 on Jun 30, 2020 20:35:25 GMT 1, no changes since June 12. I guess I'll follow up with LW.
USPS says Label Created, not yet in system
royalmail.com shows: We're expecting it
The sender has let us know this item will be with us soon. Service used: International Tracked The sender has advised us they're preparing your item. More information will be available when we receive it.
no changes since June 12. I guess I'll follow up with LW.
USPS says Label Created, not yet in system
royalmail.com shows: We're expecting it
The sender has let us know this item will be with us soon. Service used: International Tracked The sender has advised us they're preparing your item. More information will be available when we receive it.
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smokie
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by smokie on Jun 30, 2020 22:11:13 GMT 1, anyone still waiting for delivery? The tracking number from the June 12 email hasn't moved. I'm in the US. I got mine last week BUT they didn't put the street address on the shipping label, it just had my name, town, state, zip... my tracking basically went directly to "package waiting for pickup" since they couldn't deliver something without a street address. luckily the postal worker noticed the issue and recognized my name when they received it and I went to the post office to pick it up.
Well this is concerning. My tracking says waiting for sender to send since Jun 12th. I contacted love welcomes who assured me they sent it. Maybe they did not send with correct label for mine as well?
anyone still waiting for delivery? The tracking number from the June 12 email hasn't moved. I'm in the US. I got mine last week BUT they didn't put the street address on the shipping label, it just had my name, town, state, zip... my tracking basically went directly to "package waiting for pickup" since they couldn't deliver something without a street address. luckily the postal worker noticed the issue and recognized my name when they received it and I went to the post office to pick it up. Well this is concerning. My tracking says waiting for sender to send since Jun 12th. I contacted love welcomes who assured me they sent it. Maybe they did not send with correct label for mine as well?
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