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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by Deleted on Nov 21, 2022 10:17:16 GMT 1, You implied it though right, that you could go knock on Banksy's door, and that one of the current directors had leaked this info to you. You asked "How do Banksy fans feel about an art dealer knowing info like this". It feels like you're playing your last card after being shut out of access since PC changed their COA set up and who they now deal with. In effect, since Simon and Holly left, they're having the clean up that a few on here are concerned about, I guess they didnt expect it would include them. Lastly, none of this should affect you at all. People contact you with prints, the occassional original and now memorabilia, you mark it up and sell it on. I honestly can't see how any of this affects that model at all. Well, apart from the pending global recession I guess. But again, if you focus on the art and projects, they're recession proof.
Im embarrassed for you but you've been useful.
I've achieved what I set out to, have fun.
There will be a CG advert on uaa shortly for quick access to those who are interested in the Banksy market
You implied it though right, that you could go knock on Banksy's door, and that one of the current directors had leaked this info to you. You asked "How do Banksy fans feel about an art dealer knowing info like this". It feels like you're playing your last card after being shut out of access since PC changed their COA set up and who they now deal with. In effect, since Simon and Holly left, they're having the clean up that a few on here are concerned about, I guess they didnt expect it would include them. Lastly, none of this should affect you at all. People contact you with prints, the occassional original and now memorabilia, you mark it up and sell it on. I honestly can't see how any of this affects that model at all. Well, apart from the pending global recession I guess. But again, if you focus on the art and projects, they're recession proof. I deal in very few prints in comparison to originals, I deal in alot of originals. Im embarrassed for you but you've been useful. I've achieved what I set out to, have fun. There will be a CG advert on uaa shortly for quick access to those who are interested in the Banksy market |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by donnerz on Nov 21, 2022 10:28:46 GMT 1, Lastly, none of this should affect you at all. People contact you with prints, the occassional original and now memorabilia, you mark it up and sell it on. I honestly can't see how any of this affects that model at all. Well, apart from the pending global recession I guess. But again, if you focus on the art and projects, they're recession proof. I deal in very few prints in comparison to originals, I deal in alot of originals. Im embarrassed for you but you've been useful. I've achieved what I set out to, have fun. There will be a CG advert on uaa shortly for quick access to those who are interested in the Banksy market
Lastly, none of this should affect you at all. People contact you with prints, the occassional original and now memorabilia, you mark it up and sell it on. I honestly can't see how any of this affects that model at all. Well, apart from the pending global recession I guess. But again, if you focus on the art and projects, they're recession proof. I deal in very few prints in comparison to originals, I deal in alot of originals. Im embarrassed for you but you've been useful. I've achieved what I set out to, have fun. There will be a CG advert on uaa shortly for quick access to those who are interested in the Banksy market … and as mysteriously as he had appeared he was gone, leaving only a trail of sanctimonious comments and the promise of a flashing ad |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by Reader on Nov 21, 2022 10:31:04 GMT 1, Lastly, none of this should affect you at all. People contact you with prints, the occassional original and now memorabilia, you mark it up and sell it on. I honestly can't see how any of this affects that model at all. Well, apart from the pending global recession I guess. But again, if you focus on the art and projects, they're recession proof. I deal in very few prints in comparison to originals, I deal in alot of originals. Im embarrassed for you but you've been useful. I've achieved what I set out to, have fun. There will be a CG advert on uaa shortly for quick access to those who are interested in the Banksy market
Lastly, none of this should affect you at all. People contact you with prints, the occassional original and now memorabilia, you mark it up and sell it on. I honestly can't see how any of this affects that model at all. Well, apart from the pending global recession I guess. But again, if you focus on the art and projects, they're recession proof. I deal in very few prints in comparison to originals, I deal in alot of originals. Im embarrassed for you but you've been useful. I've achieved what I set out to, have fun. There will be a CG advert on uaa shortly for quick access to those who are interested in the Banksy market oh dear, I guess you blocked me, I think people need to be a little more cautious with the "nice guy" references, all sharks and many salespeople are "nice guys", it comes with the territory, you don't get very far if you can't front that, and that means exceptional focus on customer service, which of course is also what we're paying for. To feel a little better and more confident about ourselves. No one wants to feel they're being duped, besides, it's terrible for business. Which ironically enough, means that where this isn't the focus ala Banksy/PC etc. Then the focus must be elsewhere, perhaps on the art and the issues it explores, for example. Slava Ukraine ! |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by Minecrafter 34 on Nov 21, 2022 10:37:13 GMT 1, Setting the money part of it to the side. I edited my last post and there's an important point that shouldn't get lost. I have enough information to knock the artists front door within a week if I was inclined, I'm not. Someone in a closer demographic could do the same if they had the same information, in an afternoon. It's no coincidence that the new website went live in conjunction with the end of the artists long period of time out(re street activity etc). The website was due to go live in conjunction with the show but as it was stalled going live alongside the Ukrainian stint made sense. All leaked info was leaked by one of the current directors, the other director is extremely tight lipped. How do Banksy fans feel about an art dealer knowing info like this. I always had some level of insider info but certain things were never discussed and for good reason. Are you saying Mark told you where Banksy lived and when the Ukraine project was happening:-) but that Jenny is tight lipped? tut tut, come on. That's not very ethical, or true, is it. You registered the company and site back in 2019 and launched with the promise of some CO'less flyers and memorabilia. Maybe give him a call instead of making silly threats on a public forum to shore up your own social and cultural capital. People on here aren't as clueless and naive as you perhaps think.
your behaviour was to garner favour off of the collective,
when the reality is your actions over the years formed a large part of the reason my husband fought back against this disgusting firm.
It's your own doing. You're a hypocrite and people start seeing through you.
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FACT is, the ship is sinking. And you're drowning with them.
Setting the money part of it to the side. I edited my last post and there's an important point that shouldn't get lost. I have enough information to knock the artists front door within a week if I was inclined, I'm not. Someone in a closer demographic could do the same if they had the same information, in an afternoon. It's no coincidence that the new website went live in conjunction with the end of the artists long period of time out(re street activity etc). The website was due to go live in conjunction with the show but as it was stalled going live alongside the Ukrainian stint made sense. All leaked info was leaked by one of the current directors, the other director is extremely tight lipped. How do Banksy fans feel about an art dealer knowing info like this. I always had some level of insider info but certain things were never discussed and for good reason. Are you saying Mark told you where Banksy lived and when the Ukraine project was happening:-) but that Jenny is tight lipped? tut tut, come on. That's not very ethical, or true, is it. You registered the company and site back in 2019 and launched with the promise of some CO'less flyers and memorabilia. Maybe give him a call instead of making silly threats on a public forum to shore up your own social and cultural capital. People on here aren't as clueless and naive as you perhaps think. You are the self proclaimed "art gatekeeper" that spent years bullying and attacking my husbands career. your behaviour was to garner favour off of the collective, when the reality is your actions over the years formed a large part of the reason my husband fought back against this disgusting firm. It's your own doing. You're a hypocrite and people start seeing through you. Edit: FACT is, the ship is sinking. And you're drowning with them. |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by storm breaker on Nov 21, 2022 10:41:18 GMT 1, I edited my initial post. Re above comment. I was trying to be humble.In the B world all dealers are small time. Out of all the B dealers on the planet, although not the most public, I'm certainly one of the most trusted and respected. What is it you do? Then you may want to up your pie portions there Andy as you're certainly not coming across that way at all. I am no longer in the game as much these days but you know me and I know that you have sold fakes over the years and I suspect thats why the aforementioned no longer have any respect for you nor want to work with you any more.
I edited my initial post. Re above comment. I was trying to be humble.In the B world all dealers are small time. Out of all the B dealers on the planet, although not the most public, I'm certainly one of the most trusted and respected. What is it you do? Then you may want to up your pie portions there Andy as you're certainly not coming across that way at all. I am no longer in the game as much these days but you know me and I know that you have sold fakes over the years and I suspect thats why the aforementioned no longer have any respect for you nor want to work with you any more. Are you on about the 'Backdoor' invaders? if so that was another dealer from Ireland |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by Reader on Nov 21, 2022 10:48:57 GMT 1, Are you saying Mark told you where Banksy lived and when the Ukraine project was happening:-) but that Jenny is tight lipped? tut tut, come on. That's not very ethical, or true, is it. You registered the company and site back in 2019 and launched with the promise of some CO'less flyers and memorabilia. Maybe give him a call instead of making silly threats on a public forum to shore up your own social and cultural capital. People on here aren't as clueless and naive as you perhaps think. You are the self proclaimed "art gatekeeper" that spent years bullying and attacking my husbands career. your behaviour was to garner favour off of the collective, when the reality is your actions over the years formed a large part of the reason my husband fought back against this disgusting firm. It's your own doing. You're a hypocrite and people start seeing through you.
The manically obsessing over LIITB is what damaged JPS's reputation, nothing to do with me, you do him absolutely no favours by continuing it.
Are you saying Mark told you where Banksy lived and when the Ukraine project was happening:-) but that Jenny is tight lipped? tut tut, come on. That's not very ethical, or true, is it. You registered the company and site back in 2019 and launched with the promise of some CO'less flyers and memorabilia. Maybe give him a call instead of making silly threats on a public forum to shore up your own social and cultural capital. People on here aren't as clueless and naive as you perhaps think. You are the self proclaimed "art gatekeeper" that spent years bullying and attacking my husbands career. your behaviour was to garner favour off of the collective, when the reality is your actions over the years formed a large part of the reason my husband fought back against this disgusting firm. It's your own doing. You're a hypocrite and people start seeing through you. Really, that's a shame, I really like some of his work, especially the stuff after his Horror phase. The bulldog piece you guys did is excellent. In fact I grabbed this shot just the other night, placement is spot on. The manically obsessing over LIITB is what damaged JPS's reputation, nothing to do with me, you do him absolutely no favours by continuing it.
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by Reader on Nov 21, 2022 11:08:42 GMT 1, Edit: FACT is, the ship is sinking. And you're drowning with them.
Edit: FACT is, the ship is sinking. And you're drowning with them. Edit : The only time I was annoyed with your husband, is when he flew in, and absolutely destroyed this wonderful Pejac by adding a kid in a fucking dinosaur suit which sucks all of the air from the Pejac piece. |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by Minecrafter 34 on Nov 21, 2022 11:16:54 GMT 1, You are the self proclaimed "art gatekeeper" that spent years bullying and attacking my husbands career. your behaviour was to garner favour off of the collective, when the reality is your actions over the years formed a large part of the reason my husband fought back against this disgusting firm. It's your own doing. You're a hypocrite and people start seeing through you. Really, that's a shame, I really like some of his work, especially the stuff after his Horror phase. The bulldog piece you guys did is excellent. In fact I grabbed this shot just the other night, placement is spot on. The manically obsessing over LIITB is what damaged JPS's reputation, nothing to do with me, you do him absolutely no favours by continuing it.
Which was still the better strategy though.
He knew this war would end his career but the collective was flat out doing that anyway.
They can’t shut anymore doors if hes not even bothering, but that’s also a big issue because all that time he should be spending on art is dedicated to revenge.
People struggle because an artist outed it and they don't see past the rival artist side , if it was outed by a civilian on a large platform it wouldnt get distorted.
Ps : the piece you're talking about was done with the owners permission and spaced well away from the pejac piece. If you don't own the wall, then your toys should stay in the pram. Plus your hate campaign started way earlier and you know that.
You are the self proclaimed "art gatekeeper" that spent years bullying and attacking my husbands career. your behaviour was to garner favour off of the collective, when the reality is your actions over the years formed a large part of the reason my husband fought back against this disgusting firm. It's your own doing. You're a hypocrite and people start seeing through you. Really, that's a shame, I really like some of his work, especially the stuff after his Horror phase. The bulldog piece you guys did is excellent. In fact I grabbed this shot just the other night, placement is spot on. The manically obsessing over LIITB is what damaged JPS's reputation, nothing to do with me, you do him absolutely no favours by continuing it.
Listen, we knew it would damage my husband's reputation because we didn't include his reasons for outing them in the article. Which was still the better strategy though. He knew this war would end his career but the collective was flat out doing that anyway. They can’t shut anymore doors if hes not even bothering, but that’s also a big issue because all that time he should be spending on art is dedicated to revenge. People struggle because an artist outed it and they don't see past the rival artist side , if it was outed by a civilian on a large platform it wouldnt get distorted. Ps : the piece you're talking about was done with the owners permission and spaced well away from the pejac piece. If you don't own the wall, then your toys should stay in the pram. Plus your hate campaign started way earlier and you know that. |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by jp on Nov 21, 2022 11:24:47 GMT 1, I deal in very few prints in comparison to originals, I deal in alot of originals. Im embarrassed for you but you've been useful. I've achieved what I set out to, have fun. There will be a CG advert on uaa shortly for quick access to those who are interested in the Banksy market … and as mysteriously as he had appeared he was gone, leaving only a trail of sanctimonious comments and the promise of a flashing ad
I deal in very few prints in comparison to originals, I deal in alot of originals. Im embarrassed for you but you've been useful. I've achieved what I set out to, have fun. There will be a CG advert on uaa shortly for quick access to those who are interested in the Banksy market … and as mysteriously as he had appeared he was gone, leaving only a trail of sanctimonious comments and the promise of a flashing ad He has rage quit the forum in past. Nothing new. When I saw he was back I was pleasantly surprised, but as this thread went on I knew I was witnessing a car crash in slow motion. |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by Reader on Nov 21, 2022 11:38:10 GMT 1, Really, that's a shame, I really like some of his work, especially the stuff after his Horror phase. The bulldog piece you guys did is excellent. In fact I grabbed this shot just the other night, placement is spot on. The manically obsessing over LIITB is what damaged JPS's reputation, nothing to do with me, you do him absolutely no favours by continuing it.
Listen, we knew it would damage my husband's reputation because we didn't include his reasons for outing them in the article. Which was still the better strategy though. He knew this war would end his career but the collective was flat out doing that anyway. They can’t shut anymore doors if hes not even bothering, but that’s also a big issue because all that time he should be spending on art is dedicated to revenge. People struggle because an artist outed it and they don't see past the rival artist side , if it was outed by a civilian on a large platform it wouldnt get distorted. Ps : the piece you're talking about was done with the owners permission and spaced well away from the pejac piece. If you don't own the wall, then your toys should stay in the pram. Plus your hate campaign started way earlier and you know that.
Really, that's a shame, I really like some of his work, especially the stuff after his Horror phase. The bulldog piece you guys did is excellent. In fact I grabbed this shot just the other night, placement is spot on. The manically obsessing over LIITB is what damaged JPS's reputation, nothing to do with me, you do him absolutely no favours by continuing it.
Listen, we knew it would damage my husband's reputation because we didn't include his reasons for outing them in the article. Which was still the better strategy though. He knew this war would end his career but the collective was flat out doing that anyway. They can’t shut anymore doors if hes not even bothering, but that’s also a big issue because all that time he should be spending on art is dedicated to revenge. People struggle because an artist outed it and they don't see past the rival artist side , if it was outed by a civilian on a large platform it wouldnt get distorted. Ps : the piece you're talking about was done with the owners permission and spaced well away from the pejac piece. If you don't own the wall, then your toys should stay in the pram. Plus your hate campaign started way earlier and you know that. This culture, like most arts and subcultures, attracts a lot of odd balls, neuro diverse, attention seeking, adhd, recovering, healed, borderline..it's built on attention seeking and fullfilling needs not met elsewhere. This can be a huge benefit in the early phase of building a name and reputation. But the festival and events format, particular none profits, also have their needs, they're generally run by a vast army of dedicated local volunteers. This field's needs are also about connection, being valued, self worth, engaging with and supporting events, but whose ethics and need are based around a sense of community and belonging. The artists wants and "needs" can't ever be prioritised over the communities, so what initially starts out as the driving force for artists work, can also be an achilles heel when that ego gets in the way of the community. I'd suggest this is the challange that both you and your husband faced, rather than there being malevolent organisers out there trying to scupper your careers. |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by Reader on Nov 21, 2022 11:47:09 GMT 1, … and as mysteriously as he had appeared he was gone, leaving only a trail of sanctimonious comments and the promise of a flashing ad He has rage quit the forum in past. Nothing new. When I saw he was back I was pleasantly surprised, but as this thread went on I knew I was witnessing a car crash in slow motion.
… and as mysteriously as he had appeared he was gone, leaving only a trail of sanctimonious comments and the promise of a flashing ad He has rage quit the forum in past. Nothing new. When I saw he was back I was pleasantly surprised, but as this thread went on I knew I was witnessing a car crash in slow motion. I don't know the bloke apart from the Gonefellow stuff some years ago, but there was something between the lines that was reading a bit off that interested my addled brain. Tough times for small businesses across the board so can imagine the pressures are mounting, in saying that, wishing him the best and hope he gets back on track supporting those artists that need it once the "gold fever" wears off, cos Banksy certainly doesn't need it. |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by Greenback on Nov 21, 2022 12:06:06 GMT 1, Are you on about the 'Backdoor' invaders? if so that was another dealer from Ireland No. I am talking about Andy Lyttle of Castle Gallery Ltd selling fake Banksy pieces and has been doing so for many years.
That's a pretty slanderous statement to be making - do you personally any evidence to back that up?
Are you on about the 'Backdoor' invaders? if so that was another dealer from Ireland No. I am talking about Andy Lyttle of Castle Gallery Ltd selling fake Banksy pieces and has been doing so for many years. That's a pretty slanderous statement to be making - do you personally any evidence to back that up? |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by nottyplay1 on Nov 21, 2022 21:28:39 GMT 1, Todos estos cabrones son una comedia
I'm a gdp participant and winner that does care less how long a CoA takes, I haven't even applied for one yet.
Thankful and appreciative and not a ViP, just a normal "bloke" from the USA
Todos estos cabrones son una comedia I'm a gdp participant and winner that does care less how long a CoA takes, I haven't even applied for one yet. Thankful and appreciative and not a ViP, just a normal "bloke" from the USA |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by House of Arts on Nov 21, 2022 23:08:21 GMT 1, Todos estos cabrones son una comedia I'm a gdp participant and winner that does care less how long a CoA takes, I haven't even applied for one yet. Thankful and appreciative and not a ViP, just a normal "bloke" from the USA
I don't know man it just sounds weird to me. If you don't care about the provenance why not get a welcome mat from Tesco for £5 instead of a GDP one for £500.
Todos estos cabrones son una comedia I'm a gdp participant and winner that does care less how long a CoA takes, I haven't even applied for one yet. Thankful and appreciative and not a ViP, just a normal "bloke" from the USA So you are 'thankful' and 'appreciative' you got to buy a way overpriced item because it has a Banksy connection but at the same time you don't care about the official COA that shows the connection because... I don't know man it just sounds weird to me. If you don't care about the provenance why not get a welcome mat from Tesco for £5 instead of a GDP one for £500. |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by House of Arts on Nov 21, 2022 23:09:18 GMT 1, No. I am talking about Andy Lyttle of Castle Gallery Ltd selling fake Banksy pieces and has been doing so for many years. That's a pretty slanderous statement to be making - do you personally any evidence to back that up?
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No. I am talking about Andy Lyttle of Castle Gallery Ltd selling fake Banksy pieces and has been doing so for many years. That's a pretty slanderous statement to be making - do you personally any evidence to back that up? Sounds like a lawsuit to me. words words words words words words words words words |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by nottyplay1 on Nov 21, 2022 23:12:24 GMT 1, Thanks for the correction, English is not my first language so I get lost in translation when it comes to certain sayings. Like I said just a normal bloke from the USA.
Thanks for the correction, English is not my first language so I get lost in translation when it comes to certain sayings. Like I said just a normal bloke from the USA.
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by House of Arts on Nov 21, 2022 23:13:21 GMT 1, I deal in very few prints in comparison to originals, I deal in alot of originals. Im embarrassed for you but you've been useful. I've achieved what I set out to, have fun. There will be a CG advert on uaa shortly for quick access to those who are interested in the Banksy market oh dear, I guess you blocked me, I think people need to be a little more cautious with the "nice guy" references, all sharks and many salespeople are "nice guys", it comes with the territory, you don't get very far if you can't front that, and that means exceptional focus on customer service, which of course is also what we're paying for. To feel a little better and more confident about ourselves. No one wants to feel they're being duped, besides, it's terrible for business. Which ironically enough, means that where this isn't the focus ala Banksy/PC etc. Then the focus must be elsewhere, perhaps on the art and the issues it explores, for example. Slava Ukraine !
I deal in very few prints in comparison to originals, I deal in alot of originals. Im embarrassed for you but you've been useful. I've achieved what I set out to, have fun. There will be a CG advert on uaa shortly for quick access to those who are interested in the Banksy market oh dear, I guess you blocked me, I think people need to be a little more cautious with the "nice guy" references, all sharks and many salespeople are "nice guys", it comes with the territory, you don't get very far if you can't front that, and that means exceptional focus on customer service, which of course is also what we're paying for. To feel a little better and more confident about ourselves. No one wants to feel they're being duped, besides, it's terrible for business. Which ironically enough, means that where this isn't the focus ala Banksy/PC etc. Then the focus must be elsewhere, perhaps on the art and the issues it explores, for example. Slava Ukraine ! I think you can find tens is not hundreds of people on this forum that would vouch for a great experience dealing with Andy in a heartbeat, where you, on the other hand, sound like a p*ick. That being said, I have no idea who you are but you seem to be some kind of well known/hotshot person in the art scene - being living proof that a lot of people in said scene are utterly unpleasant people. |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by nottyplay1 on Nov 21, 2022 23:15:58 GMT 1, In reply to the "weird" sentiment comment above: I also have a welcome mat , from Love Welcomes third round of emails.
In reply to the "weird" sentiment comment above: I also have a welcome mat , from Love Welcomes third round of emails.
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by House of Arts on Nov 21, 2022 23:24:35 GMT 1, In reply to the "weird" sentiment comment above: I also have a welcome mat , from Love Welcomes third round of emails.
In reply to the "weird" sentiment comment above: I also have a welcome mat , from Love Welcomes third round of emails. My question was - why have you paid £500 for a doormat if you don't care about the official provenance of the COA? |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by nottyplay1 on Nov 21, 2022 23:33:06 GMT 1, Good question.
I see CoA's as a means to provide provenance proof to other interested parties, since I am not interested in selling, PCO can hold on to the item's CoA for me- I have no need for it at the moment or a foreseeable future. I'm not sure how you jumped to conclude that the item is a welcome mat, but its not.
Good question.
I see CoA's as a means to provide provenance proof to other interested parties, since I am not interested in selling, PCO can hold on to the item's CoA for me- I have no need for it at the moment or a foreseeable future. I'm not sure how you jumped to conclude that the item is a welcome mat, but its not.
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by House of Arts on Nov 22, 2022 0:09:56 GMT 1, Good question.
I see CoA's as a means to provide provenance proof to other interested parties, since I am not interested in selling, PCO can hold on to the item's CoA for me- I have no need for it at the moment or a foreseeable future. I'm not sure how you jumped to conclude that the item is a welcome mat, but its not.
That's the whole point here, you didn't pay 500 for a mat, you paid 500 for a mat with provenance that it's 'a banksy'.
I could get behind the idea that Banksy doesn't really care about the secondary market for old prints (he does, given that he started PC), but the whole GDP situation is just a big clusterfuck.
Good question.
I see CoA's as a means to provide provenance proof to other interested parties, since I am not interested in selling, PCO can hold on to the item's CoA for me- I have no need for it at the moment or a foreseeable future. I'm not sure how you jumped to conclude that the item is a welcome mat, but its not.
But you derive the value of the mat, the amount of money you paid for it, from the fact that it's 'a banksy'. Imagine you are in a situation that money is tight enough that you want to sell your item. But now you can't, because you can't get a COA from PC, so you essentially paid 500 quid for a doormat that's worth £5 without the COA. That's the whole point here, you didn't pay 500 for a mat, you paid 500 for a mat with provenance that it's 'a banksy'. I could get behind the idea that Banksy doesn't really care about the secondary market for old prints (he does, given that he started PC), but the whole GDP situation is just a big clusterfuck. |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by nottyplay1 on Nov 22, 2022 0:45:35 GMT 1, ifs:
ok let's role play and say it is a mat, and what a mat <3 !! As someone who wanted to sell said mat I would have to adhere to the procedures of the CoA publishing house (PCO)- the expectation that PCO will hand out a CoA when ever a patron demands is a distant perception for me- I would not bank on that at all . All i can do is have patience , like an immigrant waiting to get his visa to get to a distant country, I can not show up to the embassy and demand the green card because I've been waiting for 2 years, practice patience.
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ok let's role play and say it is a mat, and what a mat <3 !! As someone who wanted to sell said mat I would have to adhere to the procedures of the CoA publishing house (PCO)- the expectation that PCO will hand out a CoA when ever a patron demands is a distant perception for me- I would not bank on that at all . All i can do is have patience , like an immigrant waiting to get his visa to get to a distant country, I can not show up to the embassy and demand the green card because I've been waiting for 2 years, practice patience.
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Reader
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by Reader on Nov 22, 2022 0:51:51 GMT 1, I think you can find tens is not hundreds of people on this forum that would vouch for a great experience dealing with Andy in a heartbeat, where you, on the other hand, sound like a p*ick. That being said, I have no idea who you are but you seem to be some kind of well known/hotshot person in the art scene - being living proof that a lot of people in said scene are utterly unpleasant people.
I think you can find tens is not hundreds of people on this forum that would vouch for a great experience dealing with Andy in a heartbeat, where you, on the other hand, sound like a p*ick. That being said, I have no idea who you are but you seem to be some kind of well known/hotshot person in the art scene - being living proof that a lot of people in said scene are utterly unpleasant people. speaking of utterly unpleasant people, shouldn't you be on Twitter with Jordan Peterson and your alt-right buddies? If you've got nothing to add to the discussion then jog on mate. You'll have to get your little dopamine buzz elsewhere this evening. |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by House of Arts on Nov 22, 2022 1:00:30 GMT 1, I think you can find tens is not hundreds of people on this forum that would vouch for a great experience dealing with Andy in a heartbeat, where you, on the other hand, sound like a p*ick. That being said, I have no idea who you are but you seem to be some kind of well known/hotshot person in the art scene - being living proof that a lot of people in said scene are utterly unpleasant people. speaking of utterly unpleasant people, shouldn't you be on Twitter with Jordan Peterson and your alt-right buddies? If you've got nothing to add to the discussion then jog on mate. You'll have to get your little dopamine buzz elsewhere this evening.
I think you can find tens is not hundreds of people on this forum that would vouch for a great experience dealing with Andy in a heartbeat, where you, on the other hand, sound like a p*ick. That being said, I have no idea who you are but you seem to be some kind of well known/hotshot person in the art scene - being living proof that a lot of people in said scene are utterly unpleasant people. speaking of utterly unpleasant people, shouldn't you be on Twitter with Jordan Peterson and your alt-right buddies? If you've got nothing to add to the discussion then jog on mate. You'll have to get your little dopamine buzz elsewhere this evening. I mean, I have added plenty to the discussion that you could reply to, but you choose to be this kind of person. |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by apprint on Nov 24, 2022 15:01:16 GMT 1, Are you saying Mark told you where Banksy lived and when the Ukraine project was happening:-) but that Jenny is tight lipped? tut tut, come on. That's not very ethical, or true, is it. You registered the company and site back in 2019 and launched with the promise of some CO'less flyers and memorabilia. Maybe give him a call instead of making silly threats on a public forum to shore up your own social and cultural capital. People on here aren't as clueless and naive as you perhaps think. You are the self proclaimed "art gatekeeper" that spent years bullying and attacking my husbands career. your behaviour was to garner favour off of the collective, when the reality is your actions over the years formed a large part of the reason my husband fought back against this disgusting firm. It's your own doing. You're a hypocrite and people start seeing through you. Edit: FACT is, the ship is sinking. And you're drowning with them.  ?
bit lose on this post
sorry sorry sorry
Are you saying Mark told you where Banksy lived and when the Ukraine project was happening:-) but that Jenny is tight lipped? tut tut, come on. That's not very ethical, or true, is it. You registered the company and site back in 2019 and launched with the promise of some CO'less flyers and memorabilia. Maybe give him a call instead of making silly threats on a public forum to shore up your own social and cultural capital. People on here aren't as clueless and naive as you perhaps think. You are the self proclaimed "art gatekeeper" that spent years bullying and attacking my husbands career. your behaviour was to garner favour off of the collective, when the reality is your actions over the years formed a large part of the reason my husband fought back against this disgusting firm. It's your own doing. You're a hypocrite and people start seeing through you. Edit: FACT is, the ship is sinking. And you're drowning with them. Sorry, I’m loose, is this Andy’s wife ? bit lose on this post sorry sorry sorry |
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by Minecrafter 34 on Nov 24, 2022 15:36:06 GMT 1, You are the self proclaimed "art gatekeeper" that spent years bullying and attacking my husbands career. your behaviour was to garner favour off of the collective, when the reality is your actions over the years formed a large part of the reason my husband fought back against this disgusting firm. It's your own doing. You're a hypocrite and people start seeing through you. Edit: FACT is, the ship is sinking. And you're drowning with them. Sorry, I’m loose, is this Andy’s wife ? bit lose on this post sorry sorry sorry
Sorry , I worded it a bit wrong. I'm the wife of JPS. 😊
Word counting is for losers
You are the self proclaimed "art gatekeeper" that spent years bullying and attacking my husbands career. your behaviour was to garner favour off of the collective, when the reality is your actions over the years formed a large part of the reason my husband fought back against this disgusting firm. It's your own doing. You're a hypocrite and people start seeing through you. Edit: FACT is, the ship is sinking. And you're drowning with them. Sorry, I’m loose, is this Andy’s wife ? bit lose on this post sorry sorry sorry Sorry , I worded it a bit wrong. I'm the wife of JPS. 😊 Word counting is for losers |
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dotdot
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December 2006
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by dotdot on Nov 24, 2022 15:51:01 GMT 1,
i thought this thread could do with a quiet ad break ... far be it... for me to put alex on .. but listen if needs must he'll be on later.
i thought this thread could do with a quiet ad break ... far be it... for me to put alex on .. but listen if needs must he'll be on later.
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by Pete the Post on Nov 24, 2022 15:59:00 GMT 1, Sorry, I’m loose, is this Andy’s wife ? bit lose on this post sorry sorry sorry Sorry , I worded it a bit wrong. I'm the wife of JPS. 😊 Word counting is for losers
Sorry, I’m loose, is this Andy’s wife ? bit lose on this post sorry sorry sorry Sorry , I worded it a bit wrong. I'm the wife of JPS. 😊 Word counting is for losers lol unlucky, hes a fine example of "if you cant join them spend years trying to beat them". His ways undermined him, not other people. That and the art not being that good. Oh, and threatening people on here with all sorts. He got very boring in so many ways. Dont blame the people here for how they reacted towards him, i can assure you he brought the animosity on himself. |
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