She seems to only sell 1 every few weeks or so, I'm guessing if they are out off editions it says SOLD by them.

Very well said

and not much different from a lot of the art that many people are buying now at the emerging level.

Some artists, actually very few, will hit and go up in value.

Most emerging art will drop like a rock over the years and just be of value because a person has enjoyed the piece. But in many cases it won't be worth more than ink on paper or the canvas it's painted on.

For this purpose, I'll set aside the embarrassment I share with Terry Fuckwitt about the fact it was deemed appropriate to start a thread promoting some chancer-parasite. And, for that matter, not even an interesting chancer-parasite.


A recurring problematic issue for me is disingenuous posts like the ones in red below:



These are regrettable on a platform like the Urban Art Association, whose visitors will of course include less-knowledgeable, inexperienced and/or naive collectors.

What such posts do is encourage those collectors to indulge in wishful thinking. And self-delusion.

It is in effect being suggested to people, "Hey, those poor-calibre artworks might actually be connected to Banksy. Who knows? Maybe that rascal Banksy is behind all of this and everything will soon be revealed. Just how much did you say Banksy prints and originals now cost? Hmmm... It might be worthwhile opening your wallet, spending your money on these, and taking a punt."

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We've already seen this kind of shenanigan over the years. What immediately comes to my mind is the cynically-ambiguous marketing for Outis by Graffiti Prints, and efforts made to plug the likes of Ted Patrick and Gonefellow.

They are dishonest attempts to create false hope, mislead and exploit the uninformed.

Met who are you to tell people what to buy or what not to buy?

Do you personally know who Banksy is?

Or who Mrs Banksy is?

If yes please share this info. oh great Wizard of OZ!



You have a right to buy whatever art you wish to buy, from whichever artist you choose to support... but so does EVERYONE else.

Please show some class and respect others rather than insult people on this forum.

Thank You!

Who’s better?

WCP or Mrs Banksy

Mrs maurice Banksy 

Met is actually just trying to give some valid advice, it just depends on how you want to read it.

The best advice is honest advice.

For time-management and prioritisation reasons, I don't normally read what you write.

On this occasion, however, I did go through the entire Mrs Banksy thread, including your posts. Curiosity got the better of me. Specifically, I was interested in how this thread managed to reach seven pages.

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The key concern for me remains less about Mrs Banksy being a parasite, and more about the insidiousness of your posts I previously quoted*. As already indicated, they are deceitful — intended to encourage the ignorant and easily-swayed to believe Mrs Banksy just might be connected to Banksy.

In my view, this kind of dishonestly should be openly challenged on the forum. A militant position, but not one I believe most members would consider unreasonable.


[Regarding your efforts to reframe my comments as bullying, that's understandable.

If I were a dishonest person and being called out for it, I too would be tempted to cloud the issue, misdirect and play the victim. Although this tactic doesn't work with everyone, it can indeed fool some people who are less astute or not paying attention.

In videos I've seen of bicycle thieves and porch pirates getting caught red-handed, a few proclaimed their innocence with such shrill indignation that I simply couldn't help but be impressed.]


Peace and good health to you as well. One love. Or (even better) two love, if you're lucky enough to have more than a laptop for company.

You said it twice now.

Yes every member on this forum is entitled to their own opinion.

But every opinion is not equal. There are people that has been here from the start and have 15-20+ years experience with urban/street art and Banksy.

In my world their opinion weighs a lot more.

 What does that mean exactly?...... as in people who have 15-20+ years experience with urban/street art and Banksy.

 How does that make their opinion more valid than others?

 Banksy has plagiarised and stolen ideas and techniques but that's OK cos it's Banksy cos banksy means lots of money. 


   Banksy and Hirst have the same attitude about stealing from others.


 Mrs Banksy bog roll take on Banksy soup can take on Warhol soup can take on Campbells soup cans is just as valid and legit.


  What makes me laugh is that people buy the blatant ripped off banksy images by Mr's Banksy cos they are too lazy to buy one of those many Banksy probably mad ein China etc stencils sold on Amazon and fleabay and spray one up themselves.

The verification can be done without photo-id if you are an artists who is represented by a manager.

At the risk of trying the room's patience with this follow-up, it may be worth clarifying one point:

While noting the distinction you make between the weight attributable to informed versus uninformed views, my issue with shy's posts that I originally quoted* is the deceitfulness.

What is harmful to the forum was their suggestion of something they knew to be false — i.e. that there just might be a connection between (i) the chancer-parasite Mrs Banksy and (ii) the artist Banksy.

This is very different to the scenario where somebody spreads misinformation simply because they don't know any better.

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Under the circumstances, it seems fair to me to describe shy as dishonest here.

A theoretical alternative explanation would be that they're blind to Banksy's work and modi operandi. Yet, for a prolific art collector like they claim to be, the actual level of ignorance we'd be talking about would be so staggering as to stretch the bounds of credulity beyond breaking point. This is why I'm comfortable dismissing ignorance as a possible basis for the originally-quoted posts.


If anyone considers the above analysis to be flawed or otherwise unfair, I'd be happy to hear their arguments. Of course, a gracious out does remain open — that the relevant posts were never serious; they were always meant as a joke.

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I trust there will be no objection to me being entitled to my own opinion.

this is starting to be fun