ransacked99
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by ransacked99 on Nov 26, 2019 17:00:15 GMT 1, I feel like Jerkface print prices should be like Tristan prices. That would be noble of him.
Yea Went from $75 a print to $1k a print in 3 years. Thats the true definition of street. Thankfully he's this markers savior so we are in good hands.
I feel like Jerkface print prices should be like Tristan prices. That would be noble of him. Yea Went from $75 a print to $1k a print in 3 years. Thats the true definition of street. Thankfully he's this markers savior so we are in good hands.
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Inknart
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by Inknart on Nov 26, 2019 17:27:17 GMT 1, I feel like Jerkface print prices should be like Tristan prices. That would be noble of him. Yea Went from $75 a print to $1k a print in 3 years. Thats the true definition of street. Thankfully he's this markers savior so we are in good hands. Weren't his last prints like 3500? With ones 8x8" for 1500 or something incredibly dumb?
I feel like Jerkface print prices should be like Tristan prices. That would be noble of him. Yea Went from $75 a print to $1k a print in 3 years. Thats the true definition of street. Thankfully he's this markers savior so we are in good hands. Weren't his last prints like 3500? With ones 8x8" for 1500 or something incredibly dumb?
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pellets
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by pellets on Nov 27, 2019 0:26:11 GMT 1, Also, does Cleon think selling an already over priced fixie bike for $6500 is fine art? Or has he got some more inspired prints of Trump pissing himself to release?
I like(d) Cleon but I wouldnโt call him fine art, heโs got some lovely murals and is definitely growing his game but one could argue that heโs due a refresh or evolution in his style.
Also, does Cleon think selling an already over priced fixie bike for $6500 is fine art? Or has he got some more inspired prints of Trump pissing himself to release?
I like(d) Cleon but I wouldnโt call him fine art, heโs got some lovely murals and is definitely growing his game but one could argue that heโs due a refresh or evolution in his style.
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by drip on Nov 27, 2019 0:36:54 GMT 1, Fine art is responsible for an awful lot of tat these days.
Fine art is responsible for an awful lot of tat these days.
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pellets
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by pellets on Nov 27, 2019 0:43:18 GMT 1, Fine art is responsible for an awful lot of tat these days.
Should it instead be: fine, art ๐
Edit: in retrospect, an old and obvious joke and im racked with remorse
Fine art is responsible for an awful lot of tat these days. Should it instead be: fine, art ๐ Edit: in retrospect, an old and obvious joke and im racked with remorse
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by stavi on Nov 27, 2019 0:55:19 GMT 1, Also, does Cleon think selling an already over priced fixie bike for $6500 is fine art? Or has he got some more inspired prints of Trump pissing himself to release? I like(d) Cleon but I wouldnโt call him fine art, heโs got some lovely murals and is definitely growing his game but one could argue that heโs due a refresh or evolution in his style.
Cleon stinks like stagnant water. And i own a print. But he does have the connections to have his ego blow up so big. You dont paint for the rothschilds and under the Eiffel tower without some serious pull.
Theres a video of a cleon show where he is trying to talk about some abstract wood pieces. He seemed genuinely interested jn that kind of art. Which is funny because hes painted himself into a pretty small corner.
Also, does Cleon think selling an already over priced fixie bike for $6500 is fine art? Or has he got some more inspired prints of Trump pissing himself to release? I like(d) Cleon but I wouldnโt call him fine art, heโs got some lovely murals and is definitely growing his game but one could argue that heโs due a refresh or evolution in his style. Cleon stinks like stagnant water. And i own a print. But he does have the connections to have his ego blow up so big. You dont paint for the rothschilds and under the Eiffel tower without some serious pull. Theres a video of a cleon show where he is trying to talk about some abstract wood pieces. He seemed genuinely interested jn that kind of art. Which is funny because hes painted himself into a pretty small corner.
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mrred11
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by mrred11 on Nov 27, 2019 1:08:30 GMT 1, how can he say no more street art but that's what made him popular and IMO.
how can he say no more street art but that's what made him popular and IMO.
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mrred11
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by mrred11 on Nov 27, 2019 1:11:34 GMT 1, also, where does cleon go from with his current work. im very interested to see. I do really like his sculptures but maybe some new characters. i can see that getting old
also, where does cleon go from with his current work. im very interested to see. I do really like his sculptures but maybe some new characters. i can see that getting old
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pellets
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by pellets on Nov 27, 2019 1:15:26 GMT 1, To be fair to olโ CP, he releases prints at a very accessible price point. So it seems heโs at once looking out for the everyday collector AND trying to engage the big money. It cant be easy balancing the two.
To be fair to olโ CP, he releases prints at a very accessible price point. So it seems heโs at once looking out for the everyday collector AND trying to engage the big money. It cant be easy balancing the two.
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drip
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by drip on Nov 27, 2019 1:17:54 GMT 1, also, where does cleon go from with his current work. im very interested to see. I do really like his sculptures but maybe some new characters. i can see that getting old A Porsche, a luxury watch and a breakfast cereal. Loads of possibilities left.
also, where does cleon go from with his current work. im very interested to see. I do really like his sculptures but maybe some new characters. i can see that getting old A Porsche, a luxury watch and a breakfast cereal. Loads of possibilities left.
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by Mirus Gallery on Nov 27, 2019 1:43:06 GMT 1, What confused me about this whole situation was why the artist also did not passive aggressively go after the Gallery as well in his post. He solely put it on the artist in question and seemed to be staying with the gallery.
Im also confused by their roster of artists how any artist would join this gallery and still be trying to get away from street art. Vhils, Invader etc are street artists. Where is it also stated it was OTI I remember reading a different gallery name. Was it a subsidiary of OTI?
What confused me about this whole situation was why the artist also did not passive aggressively go after the Gallery as well in his post. He solely put it on the artist in question and seemed to be staying with the gallery.
Im also confused by their roster of artists how any artist would join this gallery and still be trying to get away from street art. Vhils, Invader etc are street artists. Where is it also stated it was OTI I remember reading a different gallery name. Was it a subsidiary of OTI?
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by nobokov on Nov 27, 2019 1:45:43 GMT 1, I don't know all the machinations of what occurred, but I don't see any issues with an artist wanting to control his/her environment. Artists are all competing with each other for scratch. It's just part of life. The print was pretty ugly and if Cleon feels that he's of another tier, then why not use your influence to distance yourself from that. The unfortunate thing is......that because of this childish squabble, we'll no longer have this possible collab print.
I don't know all the machinations of what occurred, but I don't see any issues with an artist wanting to control his/her environment. Artists are all competing with each other for scratch. It's just part of life. The print was pretty ugly and if Cleon feels that he's of another tier, then why not use your influence to distance yourself from that. The unfortunate thing is......that because of this childish squabble, we'll no longer have this possible collab print.
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by brycepen on Nov 27, 2019 3:15:57 GMT 1, Also, does Cleon think selling an already over priced fixie bike for $6500 is fine art? Or has he got some more inspired prints of Trump pissing himself to release? I like(d) Cleon but I wouldnโt call him fine art, heโs got some lovely murals and is definitely growing his game but one could argue that heโs due a refresh or evolution in his style.
Agreed. His style is incredibly one dimensional.
And the whole sellout elitist crap heโs pulling is definitely turning me off to his art. A few weeks ago he posted a photo on Instagram showing Scott disick with a Cleon hanging in his home. Seems to be bragging that a reality tv star has his art.
If you donโt know who Scott disick is 1) I envy you, and 2) if you looked up wanker in the dictionary, you would find a picture of this guy.
Also, does Cleon think selling an already over priced fixie bike for $6500 is fine art? Or has he got some more inspired prints of Trump pissing himself to release? I like(d) Cleon but I wouldnโt call him fine art, heโs got some lovely murals and is definitely growing his game but one could argue that heโs due a refresh or evolution in his style. Agreed. His style is incredibly one dimensional. And the whole sellout elitist crap heโs pulling is definitely turning me off to his art. A few weeks ago he posted a photo on Instagram showing Scott disick with a Cleon hanging in his home. Seems to be bragging that a reality tv star has his art. If you donโt know who Scott disick is 1) I envy you, and 2) if you looked up wanker in the dictionary, you would find a picture of this guy.
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by 19818914 on Nov 27, 2019 7:00:11 GMT 1, cleonโs art is really relatable.
cleonโs art is really relatable.
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by brycepen on Nov 29, 2019 7:45:23 GMT 1, cleonโs art is really relatable.
Relatable? I always kind of thought it was a rip off of Ancient Egyptian art.
Not saying there is anything wrong with that; itโs nice to see a modern artist that isnโt just trying to be Warhol or Lichtenstein or Banksy. But now that heโs starting to veer away from the Ancient Egyptian aesthetic (patterns with archetypal figures), Iโm not really liking his work. So it just makes me wonder if he has the ability to evolve and produce good work.
cleonโs art is really relatable. Relatable? I always kind of thought it was a rip off of Ancient Egyptian art. Not saying there is anything wrong with that; itโs nice to see a modern artist that isnโt just trying to be Warhol or Lichtenstein or Banksy. But now that heโs starting to veer away from the Ancient Egyptian aesthetic (patterns with archetypal figures), Iโm not really liking his work. So it just makes me wonder if he has the ability to evolve and produce good work.
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by Pawel on Nov 29, 2019 9:02:51 GMT 1, We can boycott Cleon all we want, but I don't believe Lex Luthor and other big collectors give a damn about the whole situation.
We can boycott Cleon all we want, but I don't believe Lex Luthor and other big collectors give a damn about the whole situation.
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by Guy Denning on Nov 29, 2019 12:11:37 GMT 1, It's easy to blame the galleries but ultimately the artists have the final say over their pricing. If a gallery wants to hike them (sometimes ridiculously) the artist can always say 'no'. And the contemporary print market in general (in my opinion) is vastly overpriced. There are some artists that only work in print - perhaps they should be the exception - but I'm talking hand-pulled, self-etched, self-cut work. Not the bang 'em out, computer produced 'lithos' and the like. And not all artists want to be rich and famous. Most of the decent ones I know are happy to be earning enough to keep them away from having to do something approximating a 'real' job. Because what we do is essentially enjoyable and rewarding and self-controlled - and that counts for a lot in this shitty world.
It's easy to blame the galleries but ultimately the artists have the final say over their pricing. If a gallery wants to hike them (sometimes ridiculously) the artist can always say 'no'. And the contemporary print market in general (in my opinion) is vastly overpriced. There are some artists that only work in print - perhaps they should be the exception - but I'm talking hand-pulled, self-etched, self-cut work. Not the bang 'em out, computer produced 'lithos' and the like. And not all artists want to be rich and famous. Most of the decent ones I know are happy to be earning enough to keep them away from having to do something approximating a 'real' job. Because what we do is essentially enjoyable and rewarding and self-controlled - and that counts for a lot in this shitty world.
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by moron on Dec 8, 2019 23:42:10 GMT 1, Again most people here are aware of them manipulating the market, my bigger issue is with them trying to kill and corrupt street art, telling artists to leave the street art scene and replicate Kaws' approach of exclusivity and branding - all purely for money. Surely it is the artists themselves that decide to play the game of these rich manipulaters that are motivated by money and are the opportunists.
Since when has street art scene been genuine. For along time now, graphic artists etc have used walls to paint on to promote themselves and their print sales. I thought Fairey Kaws Invader were motivated by money and profit since a long time ago. Along comes some mega wealthy player who decided to set up a gallery and take advantage of the opportunity to hype up prices and promote some artists and these artists go along with the setup. Then blame them for being sellouts not the people with the money who easily manipulate and influence the art market as that has been going on since the turn of the last century.
No one knows if these record prices achieved at auction are real or fake. People do not realise how easy it is to get an auctioneer to fake bid up the selling price at auction, even in the large auction houses. The auction houses are in on it because they need the publicity of record sales which attracts buyers to their sales and keeps the urban art sales going for the time being.
Whether Kaws or Invader sold for over a million in an auction room for real or whether it was chandelier bidding and the auctioneer in on it makes no difference to me.
Art is worth what someone wants to pay for it. Kaws prints sell for thousands at auction it appears but if offered one, I wouldn't pay more than a couple of hundred quid for one as that's all it's worth to me. I know that there are people who have bought into the smoke and mirrors of Mugrabiism and see people paying thousands, so they decide to pay thousands too. Obscene amounts of money are paid for mundane art for various reasons.
The wealthy, the large galleries big dealers collectors and auction houses are all in bed together. Creating an illusion to get people to invest in and part with their money. They need certain artists to promote and hype up and build the brand to keep the money rolling in. These artists that decide to play that game, know what they are getting into and know where their loyalties lie. They are going where the money is and that's fine if that's what they want. Some are probably patting themselves on their own backs and thinking how easy it was to use urban art to build a following to be able to move up to selling at major auction houses.
If it's street art you care about then forget them and support other street artists that have that love of art and urban outsider in them.
Street artists in a way are like buskers. They do their stuff in the streets because they want to share what they do with people and start out as unknown same as buskers do. Then one day some Scott Aitken Cowell type character spots them and thinks. That with their contacts and influence they can get a busker to play to their tune that they dictate and promise the busker that they will become rich only to use them chew them up and dump them after a while. Buskers fine like that because they become celebrities for a while.
Everything goes out of fashion in the art world . The Chinese wave in the early 2000's was hyped up and fizzled out.
The Gallery behind Kaws etc is I believe a business registered in Hong Kong and the record sales were in Hong Kong too ?
Didn't Kaws upset the Chinese govt with some rhetoric he made about the Hong Kong protestors?
anyway Robert Hughes has been exposing the art fixing and hype for years. This video is worth watching completely but the information about manipulating the art world is 17 minutes into the video.
Again most people here are aware of them manipulating the market, my bigger issue is with them trying to kill and corrupt street art, telling artists to leave the street art scene and replicate Kaws' approach of exclusivity and branding - all purely for money. Surely it is the artists themselves that decide to play the game of these rich manipulaters that are motivated by money and are the opportunists. Since when has street art scene been genuine. For along time now, graphic artists etc have used walls to paint on to promote themselves and their print sales. I thought Fairey Kaws Invader were motivated by money and profit since a long time ago. Along comes some mega wealthy player who decided to set up a gallery and take advantage of the opportunity to hype up prices and promote some artists and these artists go along with the setup. Then blame them for being sellouts not the people with the money who easily manipulate and influence the art market as that has been going on since the turn of the last century. No one knows if these record prices achieved at auction are real or fake. People do not realise how easy it is to get an auctioneer to fake bid up the selling price at auction, even in the large auction houses. The auction houses are in on it because they need the publicity of record sales which attracts buyers to their sales and keeps the urban art sales going for the time being. Whether Kaws or Invader sold for over a million in an auction room for real or whether it was chandelier bidding and the auctioneer in on it makes no difference to me. Art is worth what someone wants to pay for it. Kaws prints sell for thousands at auction it appears but if offered one, I wouldn't pay more than a couple of hundred quid for one as that's all it's worth to me. I know that there are people who have bought into the smoke and mirrors of Mugrabiism and see people paying thousands, so they decide to pay thousands too. Obscene amounts of money are paid for mundane art for various reasons. The wealthy, the large galleries big dealers collectors and auction houses are all in bed together. Creating an illusion to get people to invest in and part with their money. They need certain artists to promote and hype up and build the brand to keep the money rolling in. These artists that decide to play that game, know what they are getting into and know where their loyalties lie. They are going where the money is and that's fine if that's what they want. Some are probably patting themselves on their own backs and thinking how easy it was to use urban art to build a following to be able to move up to selling at major auction houses. If it's street art you care about then forget them and support other street artists that have that love of art and urban outsider in them. Street artists in a way are like buskers. They do their stuff in the streets because they want to share what they do with people and start out as unknown same as buskers do. Then one day some Scott Aitken Cowell type character spots them and thinks. That with their contacts and influence they can get a busker to play to their tune that they dictate and promise the busker that they will become rich only to use them chew them up and dump them after a while. Buskers fine like that because they become celebrities for a while. Everything goes out of fashion in the art world . The Chinese wave in the early 2000's was hyped up and fizzled out. The Gallery behind Kaws etc is I believe a business registered in Hong Kong and the record sales were in Hong Kong too ? Didn't Kaws upset the Chinese govt with some rhetoric he made about the Hong Kong protestors? anyway Robert Hughes has been exposing the art fixing and hype for years. This video is worth watching completely but the information about manipulating the art world is 17 minutes into the video.
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kalm
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by kalm on Dec 9, 2019 2:01:53 GMT 1, I wonder what religion these people are...take a guess
(Satanists who value money over love)
I wonder what religion these people are...take a guess
(Satanists who value money over love)
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19818914
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by 19818914 on Dec 9, 2019 3:52:52 GMT 1, Again most people here are aware of them manipulating the market, my bigger issue is with them trying to kill and corrupt street art, telling artists to leave the street art scene and replicate Kaws' approach of exclusivity and branding - all purely for money. Surely it is the artists themselves that decide to play the game of these rich manipulaters that are motivated by money and are the opportunists. Since when has street art scene been genuine. For along time now, graphic artists etc have used walls to paint on to promote themselves and their print sales. I thought Fairey Kaws Invader were motivated by money and profit since a long time ago. Along comes some mega wealthy player who decided to set up a gallery and take advantage of the opportunity to hype up prices and promote some artists and these artists go along with the setup. Then blame them for being sellouts not the people with the money who easily manipulate and influence the art market as that has been going on since the turn of the last century. No one knows if these record prices achieved at auction are real or fake. People do not realise how easy it is to get an auctioneer to fake bid up the selling price at auction, even in the large auction houses. The auction houses are in on it because they need the publicity of record sales which attracts buyers to their sales and keeps the urban art sales going for the time being. Whether Kaws or Invader sold for over a million in an auction room for real or whether it was chandelier bidding and the auctioneer in on it makes no difference to me. Art is worth what someone wants to pay for it. Kaws prints sell for thousands at auction it appears but if offered one, I wouldn't pay more than a couple of hundred quid for one as that's all it's worth to me. I know that there are people who have bought into the smoke and mirrors of Mugrabiism and see people paying thousands, so they decide to pay thousands too. Obscene amounts of money are paid for mundane art for various reasons. The wealthy, the large galleries big dealers collectors and auction houses are all in bed together. Creating an illusion to get people to invest in and part with their money. They need certain artists to promote and hype up and build the brand to keep the money rolling in. These artists that decide to play that game, know what they are getting into and know where their loyalties lie. They are going where the money is and that's fine if that's what they want. Some are probably patting themselves on their own backs and thinking how easy it was to use urban art to build a following to be able to move up to selling at major auction houses. If it's street art you care about then forget them and support other street artists that have that love of art and urban outsider in them. Street artists in a way are like buskers. They do their stuff in the streets because they want to share what they do with people and start out as unknown same as buskers do. Then one day some Scott Aitken Cowell type character spots them and thinks. That with their contacts and influence they can get a busker to play to their tune that they dictate and promise the busker that they will become rich only to use them chew them up and dump them after a while. Buskers fine like that because they become celebrities for a while. Everything goes out of fashion in the art world . The Chinese wave in the early 2000's was hyped up and fizzled out. The Gallery behind Kaws etc is I believe a business registered in Hong Kong and the record sales were in Hong Kong too ? Didn't Kaws upset the Chinese govt with some rhetoric he made about the Hong Kong protestors? anyway Robert Hughes has been exposing the art fixing and hype for years. This video is worth watching completely but the information about manipulating the art world is 17 minutes into the video.
Damn homey. How long you been writing that essay for.
Again most people here are aware of them manipulating the market, my bigger issue is with them trying to kill and corrupt street art, telling artists to leave the street art scene and replicate Kaws' approach of exclusivity and branding - all purely for money. Surely it is the artists themselves that decide to play the game of these rich manipulaters that are motivated by money and are the opportunists. Since when has street art scene been genuine. For along time now, graphic artists etc have used walls to paint on to promote themselves and their print sales. I thought Fairey Kaws Invader were motivated by money and profit since a long time ago. Along comes some mega wealthy player who decided to set up a gallery and take advantage of the opportunity to hype up prices and promote some artists and these artists go along with the setup. Then blame them for being sellouts not the people with the money who easily manipulate and influence the art market as that has been going on since the turn of the last century. No one knows if these record prices achieved at auction are real or fake. People do not realise how easy it is to get an auctioneer to fake bid up the selling price at auction, even in the large auction houses. The auction houses are in on it because they need the publicity of record sales which attracts buyers to their sales and keeps the urban art sales going for the time being. Whether Kaws or Invader sold for over a million in an auction room for real or whether it was chandelier bidding and the auctioneer in on it makes no difference to me. Art is worth what someone wants to pay for it. Kaws prints sell for thousands at auction it appears but if offered one, I wouldn't pay more than a couple of hundred quid for one as that's all it's worth to me. I know that there are people who have bought into the smoke and mirrors of Mugrabiism and see people paying thousands, so they decide to pay thousands too. Obscene amounts of money are paid for mundane art for various reasons. The wealthy, the large galleries big dealers collectors and auction houses are all in bed together. Creating an illusion to get people to invest in and part with their money. They need certain artists to promote and hype up and build the brand to keep the money rolling in. These artists that decide to play that game, know what they are getting into and know where their loyalties lie. They are going where the money is and that's fine if that's what they want. Some are probably patting themselves on their own backs and thinking how easy it was to use urban art to build a following to be able to move up to selling at major auction houses. If it's street art you care about then forget them and support other street artists that have that love of art and urban outsider in them. Street artists in a way are like buskers. They do their stuff in the streets because they want to share what they do with people and start out as unknown same as buskers do. Then one day some Scott Aitken Cowell type character spots them and thinks. That with their contacts and influence they can get a busker to play to their tune that they dictate and promise the busker that they will become rich only to use them chew them up and dump them after a while. Buskers fine like that because they become celebrities for a while. Everything goes out of fashion in the art world . The Chinese wave in the early 2000's was hyped up and fizzled out. The Gallery behind Kaws etc is I believe a business registered in Hong Kong and the record sales were in Hong Kong too ? Didn't Kaws upset the Chinese govt with some rhetoric he made about the Hong Kong protestors? anyway Robert Hughes has been exposing the art fixing and hype for years. This video is worth watching completely but the information about manipulating the art world is 17 minutes into the video. Damn homey. How long you been writing that essay for.
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by 19818914 on Dec 9, 2019 3:54:12 GMT 1, Your whole life has been manipulated.
Your whole life has been manipulated.
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by Guy Denning on Dec 9, 2019 8:13:27 GMT 1, Your whole life has been manipulated. Which, ironically - given the direction of the thread, is one of the reasons why people originally started writing on walls.
Your whole life has been manipulated. Which, ironically - given the direction of the thread, is one of the reasons why people originally started writing on walls.
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moron
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Boycott Over The Influence Gallery?, by moron on Jan 19, 2020 14:57:31 GMT 1, It's all about marketing
It's all about marketing
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