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Pejac • H2O Print, by seamusdorey on Dec 7, 2019 18:42:35 GMT 1, Anyone who has purchased a Counter Editions work will certainly find the Pejac crates over the top. Counter Editions use recyclable cardboard flat packs, perfectly adequate to prevent any possible damage.
In my opinion, the crates used by Pejac are certainly unnecessary.
I suppose one could leave the artwork in the crate, stick the whole thing up on the wall, obviously with the front removed. Thus adding another dimension to the work for your future dinner guests to discuss:
'Yea, we really f*cked over that planet well and good; raped the forests, killed all the pollinators, choked the seas to death and for good measure, released a cornucopious cocktail of atmospheric pollution resulting in, amongst other things, acid rain!'.
It's frightening when you take the time to stop and think that the Human race is actually PART of nature.
I feel so lucky to be alive at this moment in time, with any luck I won't see people bludgeoning one and other to death over food and water. We already have nations starving and dying of thirst.
But hey, what about this art man 😉
Anyone who has purchased a Counter Editions work will certainly find the Pejac crates over the top. Counter Editions use recyclable cardboard flat packs, perfectly adequate to prevent any possible damage.
In my opinion, the crates used by Pejac are certainly unnecessary.
I suppose one could leave the artwork in the crate, stick the whole thing up on the wall, obviously with the front removed. Thus adding another dimension to the work for your future dinner guests to discuss:
'Yea, we really f*cked over that planet well and good; raped the forests, killed all the pollinators, choked the seas to death and for good measure, released a cornucopious cocktail of atmospheric pollution resulting in, amongst other things, acid rain!'.
It's frightening when you take the time to stop and think that the Human race is actually PART of nature.
I feel so lucky to be alive at this moment in time, with any luck I won't see people bludgeoning one and other to death over food and water. We already have nations starving and dying of thirst.
But hey, what about this art man 😉
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Pejac • H2O Print, by bradk on Dec 7, 2019 18:49:24 GMT 1, His first couple editions came flat packed between cardboard and they had a lot of issues arriving damaged. Not sure why the change to crates over tubes after that fiasco, abundance of caution perhaps? GP sized tubes would certainly be fine
His first couple editions came flat packed between cardboard and they had a lot of issues arriving damaged. Not sure why the change to crates over tubes after that fiasco, abundance of caution perhaps? GP sized tubes would certainly be fine Linea came in a tube on collection at the show in London... |
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Pejac • H2O Print, by NYart on Dec 7, 2019 18:52:47 GMT 1, Meadow was rolled and wavy, wound came flat and many were creased.. so I guess that explains the crates
Meadow was rolled and wavy, wound came flat and many were creased.. so I guess that explains the crates
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Pejac • H2O Print, by tranito on Dec 7, 2019 18:56:33 GMT 1, Meadow was rolled and wavy, wound came flat and many were creased.. so I guess that explains the crates
Meanwhile, Meadow and Wound were sold 200-300 Euros and Scattercrow/H20 are now 1000-1400 Euros.. at least you get a crate with the price increase..
Meadow was rolled and wavy, wound came flat and many were creased.. so I guess that explains the crates Meanwhile, Meadow and Wound were sold 200-300 Euros and Scattercrow/H20 are now 1000-1400 Euros.. at least you get a crate with the price increase.. |
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Pejac • H2O Print, by qest on Dec 7, 2019 19:11:21 GMT 1, The problem is reverse virtue signaling, where anyone who expresses environmental concerns or calls for action is held to unreasonable standards and labeled a hypocrite. If he has a fridge of disposable plastic water bottles or stock in a coal company then fair play. Otherwise it just smells like an attempt to delegitimize climate change concerns. Is sending a print in a standard cardboard tube now classed as "unreasonable standards"?
No, other than being a dumb thing to complain about for a 1400€ print. And like I said before, the argument just changes - Shepard Fairey ships in tubes, so people revise their scorn for the use of ink, paper, and shipping (tubes).
The problem is reverse virtue signaling, where anyone who expresses environmental concerns or calls for action is held to unreasonable standards and labeled a hypocrite. If he has a fridge of disposable plastic water bottles or stock in a coal company then fair play. Otherwise it just smells like an attempt to delegitimize climate change concerns. Is sending a print in a standard cardboard tube now classed as "unreasonable standards"? No, other than being a dumb thing to complain about for a 1400€ print. And like I said before, the argument just changes - Shepard Fairey ships in tubes, so people revise their scorn for the use of ink, paper, and shipping (tubes). |
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Pejac • H2O Print, by Graham H on Dec 7, 2019 20:35:59 GMT 1, I’d say best packing I’ve received for a print for quite some time are works from Avante Arte..thick cardboard, print well fixed in corner protectors and brown paper.
Simple yet more than effective for prints around the same price as the Pejac one. The wooden crate and method of shipment costs seem over the top to me..
Just my opinion.. but good luck to everyone who entered.. I’m sure the print will be top notch irrespective of how it’s dressed up
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Anyone who has purchased a Counter Editions work will certainly find the Pejac crates over the top. Counter Editions use recyclable cardboard flat packs, perfectly adequate to prevent any possible damage. In my opinion, the crates used by Pejac are certainly unnecessary. I suppose one could leave the artwork in the crate, stick the whole thing up on the wall, obviously with the front removed. Thus adding another dimension to the work for your future dinner guests to discuss: 'Yea, we really f*cked over that planet well and good; raped the forests, killed all the pollinators, choked the seas to death and for good measure, released a cornucopious cocktail of atmospheric pollution resulting in, amongst other things, acid rain!'. It's frightening when you take the time to stop and think that the Human race is actually PART of nature. I feel so lucky to be alive at this moment in time, with any luck I won't see people bludgeoning one and other to death over food and water. We already have nations starving and dying of thirst. But hey, what about this art man 😉
I’d say best packing I’ve received for a print for quite some time are works from Avante Arte..thick cardboard, print well fixed in corner protectors and brown paper. Simple yet more than effective for prints around the same price as the Pejac one. The wooden crate and method of shipment costs seem over the top to me.. Just my opinion.. but good luck to everyone who entered.. I’m sure the print will be top notch irrespective of how it’s dressed up G Anyone who has purchased a Counter Editions work will certainly find the Pejac crates over the top. Counter Editions use recyclable cardboard flat packs, perfectly adequate to prevent any possible damage. In my opinion, the crates used by Pejac are certainly unnecessary. I suppose one could leave the artwork in the crate, stick the whole thing up on the wall, obviously with the front removed. Thus adding another dimension to the work for your future dinner guests to discuss: 'Yea, we really f*cked over that planet well and good; raped the forests, killed all the pollinators, choked the seas to death and for good measure, released a cornucopious cocktail of atmospheric pollution resulting in, amongst other things, acid rain!'. It's frightening when you take the time to stop and think that the Human race is actually PART of nature. I feel so lucky to be alive at this moment in time, with any luck I won't see people bludgeoning one and other to death over food and water. We already have nations starving and dying of thirst. But hey, what about this art man 😉 |
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Pejac • H2O Print, by Deleted on Dec 7, 2019 20:36:25 GMT 1, this whole environmental morality is going on my nerves. I am sure everyone can do better and should stop pointing fingers
He wouldn’t get criticism about being hypocritical about environmental issues if all his art wasn’t about environmental issues. If you make your work about the environment you’d better be environmentally conscious. He is not. He’s a hypocrite.
this whole environmental morality is going on my nerves. I am sure everyone can do better and should stop pointing fingers He wouldn’t get criticism about being hypocritical about environmental issues if all his art wasn’t about environmental issues. If you make your work about the environment you’d better be environmentally conscious. He is not. He’s a hypocrite. |
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Pejac • H2O Print, by Terry Fuckwitt on Dec 7, 2019 21:02:32 GMT 1, this whole environmental morality is going on my nerves. I am sure everyone can do better and should stop pointing fingers He wouldn’t get criticism about being hypocritical about environmental issues if all his art wasn’t about environmental issues. If you make your work about the environment you’d better be environmentally conscious. He is not. He’s a hypocrite.
Exactly this ^ he should practice what he preaches. Very hypocritical of him, if this print can be sent in a cardboard tube.
this whole environmental morality is going on my nerves. I am sure everyone can do better and should stop pointing fingers He wouldn’t get criticism about being hypocritical about environmental issues if all his art wasn’t about environmental issues. If you make your work about the environment you’d better be environmentally conscious. He is not. He’s a hypocrite. Exactly this ^ he should practice what he preaches. Very hypocritical of him, if this print can be sent in a cardboard tube. |
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Pejac • H2O Print, by Express Post on Dec 7, 2019 21:21:01 GMT 1, I hope the print is biodegradable and will turn into fertiliser for my plants.
I will repurpose the wooden box into a birdhouse.
I hope the print is biodegradable and will turn into fertiliser for my plants.
I will repurpose the wooden box into a birdhouse.
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Pejac • H2O Print, by d.r. perseus on Dec 7, 2019 22:37:31 GMT 1, Hopefully the paper is impregnated with wild flower seeds so that when you bury it the new life will sequester the CO2 produced in its manufacturing.
Hopefully the paper is impregnated with wild flower seeds so that when you bury it the new life will sequester the CO2 produced in its manufacturing.
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Pejac • H2O Print, by d.r. perseus on Dec 7, 2019 22:41:13 GMT 1, this whole environmental morality is going on my nerves. I am sure everyone can do better and should stop pointing fingers He wouldn’t get criticism about being hypocritical about environmental issues if all his art wasn’t about environmental issues. If you make your work about the environment you’d better be environmentally conscious. He is not. He’s a hypocrite.
By your standards literally everyone involved with climate science is a hypocrite. “Oh you traveled to Antarctica to study sea ice? You damn hypocrite!”
You don’t know what the box is made of do you? Does it come from sustainable tree farms? I bet it does:
this whole environmental morality is going on my nerves. I am sure everyone can do better and should stop pointing fingers He wouldn’t get criticism about being hypocritical about environmental issues if all his art wasn’t about environmental issues. If you make your work about the environment you’d better be environmentally conscious. He is not. He’s a hypocrite. By your standards literally everyone involved with climate science is a hypocrite. “Oh you traveled to Antarctica to study sea ice? You damn hypocrite!” You don’t know what the box is made of do you? Does it come from sustainable tree farms? I bet it does: |
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Pejac • H2O Print, by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 3:18:25 GMT 1, He wouldn’t get criticism about being hypocritical about environmental issues if all his art wasn’t about environmental issues. If you make your work about the environment you’d better be environmentally conscious. He is not. He’s a hypocrite. By your standards literally everyone involved with climate science is a hypocrite. “Oh you traveled to Antarctica to study sea ice? You damn hypocrite!” You don’t know what the box is made of do you? Does it come from sustainable tree farms? I bet it does:
Not at all. There’s no hypocrisy in your example. That’s not frivolous travel. There is hypocrisy in printing up and posting loads of non-recycled postcards to promote your ‘save the earth’ artwork. It’s pointlessly wasteful. His release would sell with or without the postcards. I wouldn’t have an issue with him if all his art wasn’t about saving the planet. He’s preaching one thing and doing another.
He wouldn’t get criticism about being hypocritical about environmental issues if all his art wasn’t about environmental issues. If you make your work about the environment you’d better be environmentally conscious. He is not. He’s a hypocrite. By your standards literally everyone involved with climate science is a hypocrite. “Oh you traveled to Antarctica to study sea ice? You damn hypocrite!” You don’t know what the box is made of do you? Does it come from sustainable tree farms? I bet it does: Not at all. There’s no hypocrisy in your example. That’s not frivolous travel. There is hypocrisy in printing up and posting loads of non-recycled postcards to promote your ‘save the earth’ artwork. It’s pointlessly wasteful. His release would sell with or without the postcards. I wouldn’t have an issue with him if all his art wasn’t about saving the planet. He’s preaching one thing and doing another. |
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Pejac • H2O Print, by Riotcops on Dec 8, 2019 4:07:52 GMT 1, By your standards literally everyone involved with climate science is a hypocrite. “Oh you traveled to Antarctica to study sea ice? You damn hypocrite!” You don’t know what the box is made of do you? Does it come from sustainable tree farms? I bet it does: Not at all. There’s no hypocrisy in your example. That’s not frivolous travel. There is hypocrisy in printing up and posting loads of non-recycled postcards to promote your ‘save the earth’ artwork. It’s pointlessly wasteful. His release would sell with or without the postcards. I wouldn’t have an issue with him if all his art wasn’t about saving the planet. He’s preaching one thing and doing another.
By your standards literally everyone involved with climate science is a hypocrite. “Oh you traveled to Antarctica to study sea ice? You damn hypocrite!” You don’t know what the box is made of do you? Does it come from sustainable tree farms? I bet it does: Not at all. There’s no hypocrisy in your example. That’s not frivolous travel. There is hypocrisy in printing up and posting loads of non-recycled postcards to promote your ‘save the earth’ artwork. It’s pointlessly wasteful. His release would sell with or without the postcards. I wouldn’t have an issue with him if all his art wasn’t about saving the planet. He’s preaching one thing and doing another. So are you posing the question "does printing and shipping a postcard do more harm than 20€ does good for the NGO's"? I'm not sure of the answer, but we can't ignore the fact environmental charities need donations to continue with progress on significant breakthroughs. While it may seem hypocritical, the money needs to come from somewhere and tens of thousands of €'s donated can only be viewed as a positive overall. |
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Pejac • H2O Print, by d.r. perseus on Dec 8, 2019 4:21:26 GMT 1, He wouldn’t get criticism about being hypocritical about environmental issues if all his art wasn’t about environmental issues. If you make your work about the environment you’d better be environmentally conscious. He is not. He’s a hypocrite. Exactly this ^ he should practice what he preaches. Very hypocritical of him, if this print can be sent in a cardboard tube.
As noted..how much did he raise vs perceived waste that neither of us have any measure for beyond feelings?
He wouldn’t get criticism about being hypocritical about environmental issues if all his art wasn’t about environmental issues. If you make your work about the environment you’d better be environmentally conscious. He is not. He’s a hypocrite. Exactly this ^ he should practice what he preaches. Very hypocritical of him, if this print can be sent in a cardboard tube. As noted..how much did he raise vs perceived waste that neither of us have any measure for beyond feelings? |
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Pejac • H2O Print, by pada1 on Dec 8, 2019 5:38:12 GMT 1, Interesting exchanges, with different point of views. And for once it remains respectful! 
About the crate/packaging: my take is that it mainly serves as supporting the premium aspect of the Artwork. There are various other ways to ship very large and fragile artworks that uses less wood or different material.
Pejac push us to think about the relationship between human beings and Nature. I don't think he means that we shouldn't not be influencing anything, but rather positively than negatively (destroying in a non-sustainable way).
The wooden crate may not the like of everyone. There is room for criticism, indeed. I still think it marries well with his work, using natural material, in a very simple way.
About the postcards and donation: he needs to market the lottery. If it's not appealing for the average collector, he won't get as much money as he could raise. That's a fair strategy. And ultimately everyone's happy: collectors have a nice postcard (let's remember the success of the one distributed during the Paris show) and the NGO gets some fund to support its programs.
I don't like to see hypocrisy in that. It's too much of negative thinking a release that should make everyone happy.
We can all disagree on some aspect of the artist's approach. No one is perfect. I don't think he ever claimed to be, as well.
Interesting exchanges, with different point of views. And for once it remains respectful! About the crate/packaging: my take is that it mainly serves as supporting the premium aspect of the Artwork. There are various other ways to ship very large and fragile artworks that uses less wood or different material. Pejac push us to think about the relationship between human beings and Nature. I don't think he means that we shouldn't not be influencing anything, but rather positively than negatively (destroying in a non-sustainable way). The wooden crate may not the like of everyone. There is room for criticism, indeed. I still think it marries well with his work, using natural material, in a very simple way. About the postcards and donation: he needs to market the lottery. If it's not appealing for the average collector, he won't get as much money as he could raise. That's a fair strategy. And ultimately everyone's happy: collectors have a nice postcard (let's remember the success of the one distributed during the Paris show) and the NGO gets some fund to support its programs. I don't like to see hypocrisy in that. It's too much of negative thinking a release that should make everyone happy. We can all disagree on some aspect of the artist's approach. No one is perfect. I don't think he ever claimed to be, as well. |
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Pejac • H2O Print, by Gentle Mental on Dec 8, 2019 5:55:42 GMT 1,
100 heavy crates protecting 100 lightweight paper art about saving the environment flown all over the world in fossil guzzling jets and delivery trucks.
Well done.
Why are Banksy’s environmental pieces like Nola and Soft Toys way less annoying?
A tube will do. It’s not a Rembrandt.
100 heavy crates protecting 100 lightweight paper art about saving the environment flown all over the world in fossil guzzling jets and delivery trucks.
Well done.
Why are Banksy’s environmental pieces like Nola and Soft Toys way less annoying?
A tube will do. It’s not a Rembrandt.
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Pejac • H2O Print, by That Print Guy on Dec 8, 2019 6:47:17 GMT 1, Maybe he just got upset about all the editions that showed up to people damaged in the past.
Maybe he just got upset about all the editions that showed up to people damaged in the past.
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Pejac • H2O Print, by wottagunn on Dec 8, 2019 8:42:04 GMT 1, Maybe he just got upset about all the editions that showed up to people damaged in the past.
I know right. It's unreal, people must be desperate to post here. It forms part of the whole package. Yes a tube would probably do, but who really cares.
Creating art to highlight climate issues is a lot more than I certainly do. I don't expect him to walk everywhere too.
Maybe he just got upset about all the editions that showed up to people damaged in the past. I know right. It's unreal, people must be desperate to post here. It forms part of the whole package. Yes a tube would probably do, but who really cares. Creating art to highlight climate issues is a lot more than I certainly do. I don't expect him to walk everywhere too. |
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Pejac • H2O Print, by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 10:07:29 GMT 1, Not at all. There’s no hypocrisy in your example. That’s not frivolous travel. There is hypocrisy in printing up and posting loads of non-recycled postcards to promote your ‘save the earth’ artwork. It’s pointlessly wasteful. His release would sell with or without the postcards. I wouldn’t have an issue with him if all his art wasn’t about saving the planet. He’s preaching one thing and doing another. So are you posing the question "does printing and shipping a postcard do more harm than 20€ does good for the NGO's"? I'm not sure of the answer, but we can't ignore the fact environmental charities need donations to continue with progress on significant breakthroughs. While it may seem hypocritical, the money needs to come from somewhere and tens of thousands of €'s donated can only be viewed as a positive overall.
There are bigger problems for the environment. I'm not saying this is some major environmental crime. I'm saying it's a strange, ill-considered choice for someone apparently concerned about the world. I don't know a huge amount about his history. Has he done other things to support environmental causes?
You know a good way he could raise cash for charity without sending out postcards? Donate a percentage of the money he's making from the print sales. Unless I've missed something, he's keeping all of that.
Not at all. There’s no hypocrisy in your example. That’s not frivolous travel. There is hypocrisy in printing up and posting loads of non-recycled postcards to promote your ‘save the earth’ artwork. It’s pointlessly wasteful. His release would sell with or without the postcards. I wouldn’t have an issue with him if all his art wasn’t about saving the planet. He’s preaching one thing and doing another. So are you posing the question "does printing and shipping a postcard do more harm than 20€ does good for the NGO's"? I'm not sure of the answer, but we can't ignore the fact environmental charities need donations to continue with progress on significant breakthroughs. While it may seem hypocritical, the money needs to come from somewhere and tens of thousands of €'s donated can only be viewed as a positive overall. No, I'm not posing that question. It's not that complicated. Nobody is expected to have zero impact on the environment. It's not possible. The point is unnecessary impact, particularly from someone promoting awareness of environmental issues, and profiting from that promotion. He doesn't need to print and mail postcards in order to sell this print. He chooses to. There are bigger problems for the environment. I'm not saying this is some major environmental crime. I'm saying it's a strange, ill-considered choice for someone apparently concerned about the world. I don't know a huge amount about his history. Has he done other things to support environmental causes? You know a good way he could raise cash for charity without sending out postcards? Donate a percentage of the money he's making from the print sales. Unless I've missed something, he's keeping all of that. |
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Pejac • H2O Print, by drip on Dec 8, 2019 12:05:12 GMT 1, You can certainly argue that art is a vital part of the human condition. But art does seem terribly frivolous in the face of hunger, starvation and suffering. I mean, while the sale of a $100,000 banana taped to a wall might feel like a kick in the teeth to the poor and starving everywhere; If that same artwork is used by the artist to highlight inequality, food poverty or the environmental impact of humans flying, shipping and trucking food here, there and everywhere? Maybe it's worth it if you get beneficial ideas and thoughts into people's heads? Maybe it's worth it if your print sale results in some cash and an advert for a water charity?
It's a moral balancing act though, and I'm sure environmentally conscious artists think long and hard about how to offset the ecological impact caused by them making art and all that goes with that, the raw materials used, the travelling, the shipping back and forth of artwork etc. Maybe an artist rationalises that, sure, if I ship my print in a wooden crate, trees will be harmed but I can source sustainable wood. And yeah, it'll result in a larger carbon footprint, shipping crates instead of cardboard tubes, but maybe there'll be fewer damages in transit, resulting in fewer replacements having to be shipped?
It really is tricky though, to do more overall good than harm. Like, if I set a thousand forest fires in the Amazon, it would certainly raise awareness and get many more people now thinking about climate change and environmental activism. But does that new knowledge offset the damage I just did?
Anyway. I think art can be both a wonderful distraction and a billboard, but I don't think art is coming to save us anytime soon.
You can certainly argue that art is a vital part of the human condition. But art does seem terribly frivolous in the face of hunger, starvation and suffering. I mean, while the sale of a $100,000 banana taped to a wall might feel like a kick in the teeth to the poor and starving everywhere; If that same artwork is used by the artist to highlight inequality, food poverty or the environmental impact of humans flying, shipping and trucking food here, there and everywhere? Maybe it's worth it if you get beneficial ideas and thoughts into people's heads? Maybe it's worth it if your print sale results in some cash and an advert for a water charity?
It's a moral balancing act though, and I'm sure environmentally conscious artists think long and hard about how to offset the ecological impact caused by them making art and all that goes with that, the raw materials used, the travelling, the shipping back and forth of artwork etc. Maybe an artist rationalises that, sure, if I ship my print in a wooden crate, trees will be harmed but I can source sustainable wood. And yeah, it'll result in a larger carbon footprint, shipping crates instead of cardboard tubes, but maybe there'll be fewer damages in transit, resulting in fewer replacements having to be shipped?
It really is tricky though, to do more overall good than harm. Like, if I set a thousand forest fires in the Amazon, it would certainly raise awareness and get many more people now thinking about climate change and environmental activism. But does that new knowledge offset the damage I just did?
Anyway. I think art can be both a wonderful distraction and a billboard, but I don't think art is coming to save us anytime soon.
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Pejac • H2O Print, by drip on Dec 8, 2019 12:09:08 GMT 1, I like it when art has a bit of meat on its bones, and gets us talking about things other than just the art. In just the past few weeks, artists have gotten us talking about refugees, climate change, and domestic violence.
I like it when art has a bit of meat on its bones, and gets us talking about things other than just the art. In just the past few weeks, artists have gotten us talking about refugees, climate change, and domestic violence.
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Pejac • H2O Print, by Dive Jedi on Dec 8, 2019 13:24:14 GMT 1, I like it when art has a bit of meat on its bones, and gets us talking about things other than just the art. In just the past few weeks, artists have gotten us talking about refugees, climate change, and domestic violence.
Art didn't get us talking about domestic violence.
An artist punching his lady in her face did.
I like it when art has a bit of meat on its bones, and gets us talking about things other than just the art. In just the past few weeks, artists have gotten us talking about refugees, climate change, and domestic violence. With all due respect: Art didn't get us talking about domestic violence. An artist punching his lady in her face did. |
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Pejac • H2O Print, by drip on Dec 8, 2019 13:51:01 GMT 1, I like it when art has a bit of meat on its bones, and gets us talking about things other than just the art. In just the past few weeks, artists have gotten us talking about refugees, climate change, and domestic violence. With all due respect: Art didn't get us talking about domestic violence. An artist punching his lady in her face did.
I like it when art has a bit of meat on its bones, and gets us talking about things other than just the art. In just the past few weeks, artists have gotten us talking about refugees, climate change, and domestic violence. With all due respect: Art didn't get us talking about domestic violence. An artist punching his lady in her face did. True. But every time Eine releases a new print or edition, we'll talk about domestic violence, whether that's the artist's sole intention or not. Whether he likes it or not. And regardless of what his ever-changing Wikipedia page says. |
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Pejac • H2O Print, by pada1 on Dec 8, 2019 15:14:16 GMT 1, What if the crate "packaging" is part of the artwork itself? would we have the same discussion as a start?
From what I have seen so far, Pejac did a faire effort to contribute to various NGO or causes when he released something for the past few months.
The same way, he made an effort to make what he does accessible by changing the purchase method.
I am sure Pejac or part of his team is reading this thread and takes into account some of the fair criticism. Practice makes perfect.
For a change, should we propose some solutions to consider for next time?
I would think that a folded smaller artwork could surprise many. The creases and eventual damage to the image would be part of the artwork.
What if the crate "packaging" is part of the artwork itself? would we have the same discussion as a start?
From what I have seen so far, Pejac did a faire effort to contribute to various NGO or causes when he released something for the past few months.
The same way, he made an effort to make what he does accessible by changing the purchase method.
I am sure Pejac or part of his team is reading this thread and takes into account some of the fair criticism. Practice makes perfect.
For a change, should we propose some solutions to consider for next time?
I would think that a folded smaller artwork could surprise many. The creases and eventual damage to the image would be part of the artwork.
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Pejac • H2O Print, by drip on Dec 8, 2019 15:25:38 GMT 1, What if the crate "packaging" is part of the artwork itself? would we have the same discussion as a start? From what I have seen so far, Pejac did a faire effort to contribute to various NGO or causes when he released something for the past few months. The same way, he made an effort to make what he does accessible by changing the purchase method. I am sure Pejac or part of his team is reading this thread and takes into account some of the fair criticism. Practice makes perfect. For a change, should we propose some solutions to consider for next time? I would think that a folded smaller artwork could surprise many. The creases and eventual damage to the image would be part of the artwork.
L-13 puts out some wonderfully creased prints & posters. And I bet they get, like, zero returns due to damage.
Banksy also recently put out a series of prints that also included mucho mucho creasing and imperfections. And people seem more than happy to acquire, hang and trade those.
Maybe artists could use seed-infused packaging? Or include seeds with every purchase? Or plant a certain number of trees with every purchase? Or a well dug for every vinyl toy sold?
What if the crate "packaging" is part of the artwork itself? would we have the same discussion as a start? From what I have seen so far, Pejac did a faire effort to contribute to various NGO or causes when he released something for the past few months. The same way, he made an effort to make what he does accessible by changing the purchase method. I am sure Pejac or part of his team is reading this thread and takes into account some of the fair criticism. Practice makes perfect. For a change, should we propose some solutions to consider for next time? I would think that a folded smaller artwork could surprise many. The creases and eventual damage to the image would be part of the artwork. I like the idea of adopting a pre-damaged policy when it comes to prints. L-13 puts out some wonderfully creased prints & posters. And I bet they get, like, zero returns due to damage. Banksy also recently put out a series of prints that also included mucho mucho creasing and imperfections. And people seem more than happy to acquire, hang and trade those. Maybe artists could use seed-infused packaging? Or include seeds with every purchase? Or plant a certain number of trees with every purchase? Or a well dug for every vinyl toy sold? |
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tranito
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Pejac • H2O Print, by tranito on Dec 8, 2019 15:26:42 GMT 1, Stopped reading at what if the crate packaging is part of the art. It's not. Let's get real. It's just some fancy packaging to protect the print inside of it. If you want to purchase a fancy Pejac crate, let's put the crate in a crate to make sure it arrives minty fresh. Lol
Stopped reading at what if the crate packaging is part of the art. It's not. Let's get real. It's just some fancy packaging to protect the print inside of it. If you want to purchase a fancy Pejac crate, let's put the crate in a crate to make sure it arrives minty fresh. Lol
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drip
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Pejac • H2O Print, by drip on Dec 8, 2019 15:50:52 GMT 1, I like the idea of adopting a pre-damaged policy when it comes to prints. L-13 puts out some wonderfully creased prints & posters. And I bet they get, like, zero returns due to damage. Banksy also recently put out a series of prints that also included mucho mucho creasing and imperfections. And people seem more than happy to acquire, hang and trade those. Maybe artists could use seed-infused packaging? Or include seeds with every purchase? Or plant a certain number of trees with every purchase? Or a well dug for every vinyl toy sold? No, he simply handed out some scrappy test prints to children.
I like the idea of adopting a pre-damaged policy when it comes to prints. L-13 puts out some wonderfully creased prints & posters. And I bet they get, like, zero returns due to damage. Banksy also recently put out a series of prints that also included mucho mucho creasing and imperfections. And people seem more than happy to acquire, hang and trade those. Maybe artists could use seed-infused packaging? Or include seeds with every purchase? Or plant a certain number of trees with every purchase? Or a well dug for every vinyl toy sold? No, he simply handed out some scrappy test prints to children. I thought you were going to say they handed out hundreds of cheap prints made with some screens they already had lying around, in an effort to create a buzz, entice people to visit the show and take their kids to look at some humanitarian-themed artwork. |
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nobokov
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Pejac • H2O Print, by nobokov on Dec 8, 2019 18:37:55 GMT 1, If you're reading this Max, if I win, please ship mine in a thin, narrow poster tube.
If you're reading this Max, if I win, please ship mine in a thin, narrow poster tube.
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Dive Jedi
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Pejac • H2O Print, by Dive Jedi on Dec 8, 2019 18:44:58 GMT 1, If you're reading this Max, if I win, please ship mine in a thin, narrow poster tube.
If you're reading this Max, if I win, please ship mine in a thin, narrow poster tube. Got you covered, Nobby ! |
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moron
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Pejac • H2O Print, by moron on Dec 8, 2019 21:08:42 GMT 1, I recall seeing an image of an astronaut on another planet and an anchor in some vintage sci fi art.
I recall seeing an image of an astronaut on another planet and an anchor in some vintage sci fi art.
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