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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 9, 2019 19:28:23 GMT 1, Pretty weak.
Not to be a cynic or down play the issue that is homelessness.
But this is clearly staged and kind of a gross theater piece in my eyes.
I quite like the concept but not buying the authenticity of this for one second.
Pretty weak.
Not to be a cynic or down play the issue that is homelessness.
But this is clearly staged and kind of a gross theater piece in my eyes.
I quite like the concept but not buying the authenticity of this for one second.
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 9, 2019 19:32:41 GMT 1, Pretty weak. Not to be a cynic or down play the issue that is homelessness. But this is clearly staged and kind of a gross theater piece in my eyes. I quite like the concept but not buying the authenticity of this for one second. This guy slates Banksy at every given opportunity FYIย
Lol
So you disagree?
Pretty weak. Not to be a cynic or down play the issue that is homelessness. But this is clearly staged and kind of a gross theater piece in my eyes. I quite like the concept but not buying the authenticity of this for one second. This guy slates Banksy at every given opportunity FYIย Lol So you disagree?
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by warwolf on Dec 9, 2019 19:50:05 GMT 1, Fantastic piece
Fantastic piece
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 19:50:42 GMT 1, I also wonder if he is aware that 300yards away a Turf Wars hangs in a pub window. ๐ง
The urban bar? Police are all over it tonight. Barriers erected. Nice that we have a new Banksy in Birmingham. About time.
I also wonder if he is aware that 300yards away a Turf Wars hangs in a pub window. ๐ง The urban bar? Police are all over it tonight. Barriers erected. Nice that we have a new Banksy in Birmingham. About time.
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 9, 2019 19:57:32 GMT 1, I agree that youโre so cynical and negative about everything he does.. bitter is the word
I think the reindeer figures are done very well. So now your statement is false.
So want to discuss the piece and my commentary on it?
I agree that youโre so cynical and negative about everything he does.. bitter is the word I think the reindeer figures are done very well. So now your statement is false. So want to discuss the piece and my commentary on it?
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Hairbland on Dec 9, 2019 19:58:13 GMT 1, This guy slates Banksy at every given opportunity FYIย Lol So you disagree? Jonny donโt let the troll sea lion you!
This guy slates Banksy at every given opportunity FYIย Lol So you disagree? Jonny donโt let the troll sea lion you!
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Hairbland on Dec 9, 2019 19:59:17 GMT 1, Pretty weak. Not to be a cynic or down play the issue that is homelessness. But this is clearly staged and kind of a gross theater piece in my eyes. I quite like the concept but not buying the authenticity of this for one second. One question- why do you bother?
Pretty weak. Not to be a cynic or down play the issue that is homelessness. But this is clearly staged and kind of a gross theater piece in my eyes. I quite like the concept but not buying the authenticity of this for one second. One question- why do you bother?
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by trowel on Dec 9, 2019 20:00:19 GMT 1, Unfortunately I already have a trip to the Jewellery Quarter booked in for this weekend. Will be good to see this at least.
Top tip gents: don't let your missus find out about the Jewellery Quarter...
Unfortunately I already have a trip to the Jewellery Quarter booked in for this weekend. Will be good to see this at least.
Top tip gents: don't let your missus find out about the Jewellery Quarter...
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Lroy on Dec 9, 2019 20:04:08 GMT 1, I also wonder if he is aware that 300yards away a Turf Wars hangs in a pub window. ๐ง The urban bar? Police are all over it tonight. Barriers erected. Nice that we have a new Banksy in Birmingham. About time. This 33 seconds video with the cars etc ... and despite the tragic subject is a pure masterpiece ! What is this flyer (? ) that I have found on the wall of a Facebook friend ?.. Any link ?
I also wonder if he is aware that 300yards away a Turf Wars hangs in a pub window. ๐ง The urban bar? Police are all over it tonight. Barriers erected. Nice that we have a new Banksy in Birmingham. About time. This 33 seconds video with the cars etc ... and despite the tragic subject is a pure masterpiece ! What is this flyer (? ) that I have found on the wall of a Facebook friend ?.. Any link ?
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Laugh Now 10 on Dec 9, 2019 20:07:23 GMT 1, The urban bar? Police are all over it tonight. Barriers erected. Nice that we have a new Banksy in Birmingham. About time. This 33 seconds video with the cars etc ... and despite the tragic subject is a pure masterpiece !ย What is this flyer (? ) that I have found on the wall of a Facebook friend ?.. Any link ?
I believe BEAK > is a project from Geoff Barrow (of Portishead).
The urban bar? Police are all over it tonight. Barriers erected. Nice that we have a new Banksy in Birmingham. About time. This 33 seconds video with the cars etc ... and despite the tragic subject is a pure masterpiece !ย What is this flyer (? ) that I have found on the wall of a Facebook friend ?.. Any link ? I believe BEAK > is a project from Geoff Barrow (of Portishead).
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by nobokov on Dec 9, 2019 20:07:44 GMT 1, Jonny donโt let the troll sea lion you! Is he labeled a troll, because he has a dissenting opinion?
Jonny donโt let the troll sea lion you! Is he labeled a troll, because he has a dissenting opinion?
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 20:08:42 GMT 1, Jonny donโt let the troll sea lion you! Is he labeled a troll, because he has a dissenting opinion?
Most of the time - yes. Occasionally heโs just really annoying
Jonny donโt let the troll sea lion you! Is he labeled a troll, because he has a dissenting opinion? Most of the time - yes. Occasionally heโs just really annoying
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Lazarus II on Dec 9, 2019 20:10:33 GMT 1, Jonny donโt let the troll sea lion you! Is he labeled a troll, because he has a dissenting opinion? no its because he is a fud.
Jonny donโt let the troll sea lion you! Is he labeled a troll, because he has a dissenting opinion? no its because he is a fud.
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Hairbland on Dec 9, 2019 20:13:14 GMT 1, Jonny donโt let the troll sea lion you! Is he labeled a troll, because he has a dissenting opinion? You know the answer to your question.
Jonny donโt let the troll sea lion you! Is he labeled a troll, because he has a dissenting opinion? You know the answer to your question.
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by pippyt75 on Dec 9, 2019 20:18:31 GMT 1, Think itโs a great piece. Really powerful. Made me stop and think and have a chat to a homeless guy on the way home and give him some cash, which I might not have done otherwise.
Think itโs a great piece. Really powerful. Made me stop and think and have a chat to a homeless guy on the way home and give him some cash, which I might not have done otherwise.
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by inefficiencyof on Dec 9, 2019 20:22:43 GMT 1, I also wonder if he is aware that 300yards away a Turf Wars hangs in a pub window. ๐ง The urban bar? Police are all over it tonight. Barriers erected. Nice that we have a new Banksy in Birmingham. About time.
Yeah the Red Lion, part of the Urban Arts Bars. I see it every time I drive past in the Ambo. Always have to have a look and see Churchill staring back. Yup, about time. Will be interesting to see if it lasts.
I like the fact itโs on a train bridge and canโt be cut out, and will be part of the street. Fair game to tags, plexiglass, haters etc. Will be interesting to see how it develops over time (if it even lasts).
I also wonder if he is aware that 300yards away a Turf Wars hangs in a pub window. ๐ง The urban bar? Police are all over it tonight. Barriers erected. Nice that we have a new Banksy in Birmingham. About time. Yeah the Red Lion, part of the Urban Arts Bars. I see it every time I drive past in the Ambo. Always have to have a look and see Churchill staring back. Yup, about time. Will be interesting to see if it lasts. I like the fact itโs on a train bridge and canโt be cut out, and will be part of the street. Fair game to tags, plexiglass, haters etc. Will be interesting to see how it develops over time (if it even lasts).
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by inefficiencyof on Dec 9, 2019 20:25:20 GMT 1, Hasnโt someone already put red noses on the reindeer?
Hasnโt someone already put red noses on the reindeer?
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by John The Badgers on Dec 9, 2019 20:31:17 GMT 1, A beautiful piece, such a powerful message. Hopefully it makes people stop and think at this time of the year about more important issues.
I'm with Mammal, great to see this in Birmingham, looking forward to going tomorrow.
A beautiful piece, such a powerful message. Hopefully it makes people stop and think at this time of the year about more important issues.
I'm with Mammal, great to see this in Birmingham, looking forward to going tomorrow.
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Graham H on Dec 9, 2019 20:43:15 GMT 1, I don't think i could ever be accused of talking Banksy down, but im of the same opinion that I just don't get this piece..
If the message is we should all be thinking about the homeless at this time of year, putting loads of stuff around a homeless guy ( you could say staging ) and then filming him as people walk past in the hope they give him something and then showing his 6.9 million IG followers that he has done it - i just don't get how that can in any way benefit all the thousands of homeless people on the streets. I doff my cap to you pippyt75 saying it made you act differently on your way home and you helped a homeless person.. i just can't see it having the same effect on most people though..and realistically, with the power he has, he could have done something far more beneficial.. im in no way saying i know what that is.. but he normally finds a moral and different but successful way to help most of the causes he highlights. but i just don't think this does.
Maybe he is trying to fight too may battles..
The reindeers are nice though..
Pretty weak. Not to be a cynic or down play the issue that is homelessness. But this is clearly staged and kind of a gross theater piece in my eyes. I quite like the concept but not buying the authenticity of this for one second.
I don't think i could ever be accused of talking Banksy down, but im of the same opinion that I just don't get this piece.. If the message is we should all be thinking about the homeless at this time of year, putting loads of stuff around a homeless guy ( you could say staging ) and then filming him as people walk past in the hope they give him something and then showing his 6.9 million IG followers that he has done it - i just don't get how that can in any way benefit all the thousands of homeless people on the streets. I doff my cap to you pippyt75 saying it made you act differently on your way home and you helped a homeless person.. i just can't see it having the same effect on most people though..and realistically, with the power he has, he could have done something far more beneficial.. im in no way saying i know what that is.. but he normally finds a moral and different but successful way to help most of the causes he highlights. but i just don't think this does. Maybe he is trying to fight too may battles.. The reindeers are nice though.. Pretty weak. Not to be a cynic or down play the issue that is homelessness. But this is clearly staged and kind of a gross theater piece in my eyes. I quite like the concept but not buying the authenticity of this for one second.
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Woodey1001 on Dec 9, 2019 20:47:32 GMT 1, This pretty unique isn't it? So good.
This pretty unique isn't it? So good.
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by vvk on Dec 9, 2019 20:58:50 GMT 1, The urban bar? Police are all over it tonight. Barriers erected. Nice that we have a new Banksy in Birmingham. About time. This 33 seconds video with the cars etc ... and despite the tragic subject is a pure masterpiece ! What is this flyer (? ) that I have found on the wall of a Facebook friend ?.. Any link ? this is no coincidence.. Geoff Barrow/portishead , 3d and robin. all partners in crime. in music and art. i'll be home for the holidays
The urban bar? Police are all over it tonight. Barriers erected. Nice that we have a new Banksy in Birmingham. About time. This 33 seconds video with the cars etc ... and despite the tragic subject is a pure masterpiece ! What is this flyer (? ) that I have found on the wall of a Facebook friend ?.. Any link ? this is no coincidence.. Geoff Barrow/portishead , 3d and robin. all partners in crime. in music and art. i'll be home for the holidays
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 9, 2019 21:06:39 GMT 1, Pretty weak. Not to be a cynic or down play the issue that is homelessness. But this is clearly staged and kind of a gross theater piece in my eyes. I quite like the concept but not buying the authenticity of this for one second. One question- why do you bother?
Bothered?why would I be bothered. I like discussing art. Unfortunately too many like disgusting me more it seems. Lol
Pretty weak. Not to be a cynic or down play the issue that is homelessness. But this is clearly staged and kind of a gross theater piece in my eyes. I quite like the concept but not buying the authenticity of this for one second. One question- why do you bother? Bothered?why would I be bothered. I like discussing art. Unfortunately too many like disgusting me more it seems. Lol
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by drip on Dec 9, 2019 21:09:23 GMT 1, One question- why do you bother? Bothered?why would I be bothered. I like discussing art. Unfortunately too many like disgusting me more it seems. Lol I can't tell whether that's a typo or a Freudian slip.
One question- why do you bother? Bothered?why would I be bothered. I like discussing art. Unfortunately too many like disgusting me more it seems. Lol I can't tell whether that's a typo or a Freudian slip.
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 9, 2019 21:10:09 GMT 1, So is Ryan part of team banksy?
So is Ryan part of team banksy?
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by drip on Dec 9, 2019 21:20:44 GMT 1, I don't think i could ever be accused of talking Banksy down, but im of the same opinion that I just don't get this piece.. If the message is we should all be thinking about the homeless at this time of year, putting loads of stuff around a homeless guy ( you could say staging ) and then filming him as people walk past in the hope they give him something and then showing his 6.9 million IG followers that he has done it - i just don't get how that can in any way benefit all the thousands of homeless people on the streets. I doff my cap to you pippyt75 saying it made you act differently on your way home and you helped a homeless person.. i just can't see it having the same effect on most people though..and realistically, with the power he has, he could have done something far more beneficial.. im in no way saying i know what that is.. but he normally finds a moral and different but successful way to help most of the causes he highlights. but i just don't think this does. Maybe he is trying to fight too may battles.. The reindeers are nice though.. Pretty weak. Not to be a cynic or down play the issue that is homelessness. But this is clearly staged and kind of a gross theater piece in my eyes. I quite like the concept but not buying the authenticity of this for one second. I'll admit, I thought the same. I thought the image is fine, but I don't see what more it brings to the eyeballs, than multiple images of freezing homeless out in the cold would do. If you've got a large following, just post images or some videos. People will watch. But I guess maybe you need to wrap it in something sometimes? And Banksy's an artist. This is kinda his thing. Whatever he does will pretty much involve humorous stencil-based artwork with a humanitarian flavour.
Like GDP. He could've (arguably rightly) just done the pile of lifejackets, but the other stuff (ok yes, and the posters) got more people there. I think the reindeer image will get more media coverage than just "Banksy posts images of homeless people on his Instagram and says FFS help the homeless!"
Plus also I think people prefer being amused more than they like being preached to. So you sneak that sh*t in there.
I don't think i could ever be accused of talking Banksy down, but im of the same opinion that I just don't get this piece.. If the message is we should all be thinking about the homeless at this time of year, putting loads of stuff around a homeless guy ( you could say staging ) and then filming him as people walk past in the hope they give him something and then showing his 6.9 million IG followers that he has done it - i just don't get how that can in any way benefit all the thousands of homeless people on the streets. I doff my cap to you pippyt75 saying it made you act differently on your way home and you helped a homeless person.. i just can't see it having the same effect on most people though..and realistically, with the power he has, he could have done something far more beneficial.. im in no way saying i know what that is.. but he normally finds a moral and different but successful way to help most of the causes he highlights. but i just don't think this does. Maybe he is trying to fight too may battles.. The reindeers are nice though.. Pretty weak. Not to be a cynic or down play the issue that is homelessness. But this is clearly staged and kind of a gross theater piece in my eyes. I quite like the concept but not buying the authenticity of this for one second. I'll admit, I thought the same. I thought the image is fine, but I don't see what more it brings to the eyeballs, than multiple images of freezing homeless out in the cold would do. If you've got a large following, just post images or some videos. People will watch. But I guess maybe you need to wrap it in something sometimes? And Banksy's an artist. This is kinda his thing. Whatever he does will pretty much involve humorous stencil-based artwork with a humanitarian flavour. Like GDP. He could've (arguably rightly) just done the pile of lifejackets, but the other stuff (ok yes, and the posters) got more people there. I think the reindeer image will get more media coverage than just "Banksy posts images of homeless people on his Instagram and says FFS help the homeless!" Plus also I think people prefer being amused more than they like being preached to. So you sneak that sh*t in there.
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by drip on Dec 9, 2019 21:50:29 GMT 1, Pretty weak. Not to be a cynic or down play the issue that is homelessness. But this is clearly staged and kind of a gross theater piece in my eyes. I quite like the concept but not buying the authenticity of this for one second. It's almost certainly staged to a degree. None of that just organically happened. But I don't think it detracts from either the image or the sentiment around it.
And if the guy is actually homeless right now, I'm sure he consented to everything that occurred. And even if he's just a trained actor, then he'll almost certainly experience homelessness, hunger and poverty at some point in the future. So it's all the same.
Pretty weak. Not to be a cynic or down play the issue that is homelessness. But this is clearly staged and kind of a gross theater piece in my eyes. I quite like the concept but not buying the authenticity of this for one second. It's almost certainly staged to a degree. None of that just organically happened. But I don't think it detracts from either the image or the sentiment around it. And if the guy is actually homeless right now, I'm sure he consented to everything that occurred. And even if he's just a trained actor, then he'll almost certainly experience homelessness, hunger and poverty at some point in the future. So it's all the same.
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by vvk on Dec 9, 2019 21:52:23 GMT 1, So is Ryan part of team banksy? yes
So is Ryan part of team banksy? yes
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by swissmade on Dec 9, 2019 21:52:43 GMT 1, I love it. Beautiful.
I love it. Beautiful.
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Banksy reindeer in Birmingham, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 9, 2019 22:06:18 GMT 1, So is Ryan part of team banksy? yes
If so I never thought banksy would be so tone def.
So is Ryan part of team banksy? yes If so I never thought banksy would be so tone def.
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