tab1
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Confiscated, by tab1 on Jan 17, 2020 3:02:27 GMT 1,
Fair?
Fair?
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Meskell
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Confiscated, by Meskell on Jan 17, 2020 3:19:49 GMT 1, I suppose the jail term could have been quite a bit longer considering he was caught illegally smuggling aboard what might have been a stolen rig.
But to fine him double the painting's value and confiscate the painting is stealing in its own right. It would be fair if they? bought back the painting at a discount of what he paid for it.
P.S He needs a new lawyer.
I suppose the jail term could have been quite a bit longer considering he was caught illegally smuggling aboard what might have been a stolen rig.
But to fine him double the painting's value and confiscate the painting is stealing in its own right. It would be fair if they? bought back the painting at a discount of what he paid for it.
P.S He needs a new lawyer.
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Confiscated, by ADC on Jan 17, 2020 9:57:21 GMT 1, Maybe this is a deal he agreed to get such a short jail term, but I wouldn’t say it’s fair at all.
Maybe this is a deal he agreed to get such a short jail term, but I wouldn’t say it’s fair at all.
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Confiscated, by pfffffffffft on Jan 17, 2020 21:29:35 GMT 1, I've always wondered about this.
Like how are people unable to smuggle things out on luxury yachts? Seems like an easy way to smuggle things and people out of one place into another.
Does anyone know what kind of protocols are in place to prevent this. There is so much waterway when and where are boats and cargo checked?
Also, very stiff penalties for trying to smuggle the Picasso out. Crazy!
I've always wondered about this.
Like how are people unable to smuggle things out on luxury yachts? Seems like an easy way to smuggle things and people out of one place into another.
Does anyone know what kind of protocols are in place to prevent this. There is so much waterway when and where are boats and cargo checked?
Also, very stiff penalties for trying to smuggle the Picasso out. Crazy!
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Confiscated, by Viking Surfer on Jan 17, 2020 23:00:13 GMT 1, Like how are people unable to smuggle things out on luxury yachts? Does anyone know what kind of protocols are in place to prevent this. There is so much waterway when and where are boats and cargo checked?
Asking for a friend? 
Like how are people unable to smuggle things out on luxury yachts? Does anyone know what kind of protocols are in place to prevent this. There is so much waterway when and where are boats and cargo checked? Asking for a friend? |
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Confiscated, by pfffffffffft on Jan 17, 2020 23:08:07 GMT 1, Like how are people unable to smuggle things out on luxury yachts? Does anyone know what kind of protocols are in place to prevent this. There is so much waterway when and where are boats and cargo checked? Asking for a friend?
Ahahahahahaha! No. I just wondered with so much waterway how does it all get patrolled and checked really.
Also, I'm bored.
Like how are people unable to smuggle things out on luxury yachts? Does anyone know what kind of protocols are in place to prevent this. There is so much waterway when and where are boats and cargo checked? Asking for a friend? Ahahahahahaha! No. I just wondered with so much waterway how does it all get patrolled and checked really. Also, I'm bored. |
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Confiscated, by Express Post on Jan 18, 2020 2:01:22 GMT 1, Resources are stretched thin just looking out for refugees.
Resources are stretched thin just looking out for refugees.
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Confiscated, by moron on Jan 19, 2020 15:34:36 GMT 1, Asking for a friend? Ahahahahahaha! No. I just wondered with so much waterway how does it all get patrolled and checked really. Also, I'm bored.
Botín purchased the work in 1977. A ruling from Madrid’s High Court revealed that Botín consulted a Christie’s auctioneer in 2012 about the work; the specialist said he would need official permission to sell the painting. Botín then took the painting to Valencia and ordered his yacht’s captain to “hide it from the authorities,” according to Reuters."
He was probably grassed up. The people at that price level in the art game hide a lot of information from the public but do talk among themselves about all the dodgy stuff going on. It could be as simple as the boat captain or crew did not want to be tangled up in art smuggling for a tight arse billionaire or that the owner was not discreet when planning to get the painting out of the country and the authorities tipped off. it could even have been a very wealthy rival who tipped off the authorities. Looks like the owner did not trust the painting to be taken out of the country by a third party so decided to do it himself on his boat.
Discretion is everything and it is not hard to get something like this painting out of the country and even if he succeeded. How will the new owner be able to display it as there would be a seizure order on the painting by countries. If it was to be sold in Switzerland it could have ended up in a Swiss vault or any other country where people with money like that type of art.
Asking for a friend? Ahahahahahaha! No. I just wondered with so much waterway how does it all get patrolled and checked really. Also, I'm bored.
Botín purchased the work in 1977. A ruling from Madrid’s High Court revealed that Botín consulted a Christie’s auctioneer in 2012 about the work; the specialist said he would need official permission to sell the painting. Botín then took the painting to Valencia and ordered his yacht’s captain to “hide it from the authorities,” according to Reuters." He was probably grassed up. The people at that price level in the art game hide a lot of information from the public but do talk among themselves about all the dodgy stuff going on. It could be as simple as the boat captain or crew did not want to be tangled up in art smuggling for a tight arse billionaire or that the owner was not discreet when planning to get the painting out of the country and the authorities tipped off. it could even have been a very wealthy rival who tipped off the authorities. Looks like the owner did not trust the painting to be taken out of the country by a third party so decided to do it himself on his boat. Discretion is everything and it is not hard to get something like this painting out of the country and even if he succeeded. How will the new owner be able to display it as there would be a seizure order on the painting by countries. If it was to be sold in Switzerland it could have ended up in a Swiss vault or any other country where people with money like that type of art. |
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tab1
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Confiscated, by tab1 on Jan 22, 2020 3:08:20 GMT 1, Alan bond involved with auction house to artificially inflate Van Gogh prices in the 80s
Alan bond involved with auction house to artificially inflate Van Gogh prices in the 80s |
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tab1
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Confiscated, by tab1 on Feb 6, 2020 15:23:51 GMT 1, Stik next!
Stik next!
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