ab3
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New Ben Eine release , by ab3 on Jan 23, 2020 18:06:06 GMT 1,
Just had an email about a new Ben Eine release.
ourtypes.com/product/cursed-ben-eine/
What do you think?
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New Ben Eine release , by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 18:21:38 GMT 1,
how every gdp non lottery winning contestant feels. including Eine if i may assume, as he entered the lottery as well
how every gdp non lottery winning contestant feels. including Eine if i may assume, as he entered the lottery as well |
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Monsieur2T
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New Ben Eine release , by Monsieur2T on Jan 23, 2020 18:24:31 GMT 1, Interesting edition (besides the art itself) based on the very limited number and affordable price.
Can somebody just enlighten me on the difference between a AP (Artist Proof) and a PP (Printer Proof).
Just wondering.
Thanks.
T.
Interesting edition (besides the art itself) based on the very limited number and affordable price.
Can somebody just enlighten me on the difference between a AP (Artist Proof) and a PP (Printer Proof).
Just wondering.
Thanks.
T.
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New Ben Eine release , by Happy Shopper on Jan 23, 2020 18:29:35 GMT 1, Why should identical PPs and APs be different prices? It's just 2 small letters written on them!!
Good prices though, if you like Eine.
Why should identical PPs and APs be different prices? It's just 2 small letters written on them!!
Good prices though, if you like Eine.
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TABBY
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New Ben Eine release , by TABBY on Jan 23, 2020 18:43:23 GMT 1, I got mine.
I got mine.
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Monsieur2T
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New Ben Eine release , by Monsieur2T on Jan 23, 2020 19:05:52 GMT 1, Why should identical PPs and APs be different prices? It's just 2 small letters written on them!! Good prices though, if you like Eine.
The PP are from series of 3x
Why should identical PPs and APs be different prices? It's just 2 small letters written on them!! Good prices though, if you like Eine. The AP are from series of 7x The PP are from series of 3x |
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Art Fan 2011
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New Ben Eine release , by Art Fan 2011 on Jan 23, 2020 19:17:19 GMT 1, Anyone else start scrolling down and see the first line of letters C & U - I thought Eine had finally gone too far, until I scrolled down further ๐
Quite like them, not enough to buy though
Anyone else start scrolling down and see the first line of letters C & U - I thought Eine had finally gone too far, until I scrolled down further ๐
Quite like them, not enough to buy though
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New Ben Eine release , by Happy Shopper on Jan 23, 2020 19:51:04 GMT 1, Why should identical PPs and APs be different prices? It's just 2 small letters written on them!! Good prices though, if you like Eine. The AP are from series of 7x The PP are from series of 3xย
Yes, I can read.
But thereโs no difference between APs and PPs.
Itโs just a ridiculous way of adding more prints (and prices) to an edition.
Why should identical PPs and APs be different prices? It's just 2 small letters written on them!! Good prices though, if you like Eine. The AP are from series of 7x The PP are from series of 3xย Yes, I can read. But thereโs no difference between APs and PPs. Itโs just a ridiculous way of adding more prints (and prices) to an edition. |
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kwatis
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New Ben Eine release , by kwatis on Jan 23, 2020 22:57:57 GMT 1, The AP are from series of 7x The PP are from series of 3xย Yes, I can read. But thereโs no difference between APs and PPs. Itโs just a ridiculous way of adding more prints (and prices) to an edition.
A/P's and P/P's are a carry over from traditional printing/editioning, mostly associated with lithography, intaglio and relief. It used to be that when an edition was being proofed, the various stages would be executed until the artist selected the end result that was to their liking. This print was marked B.A.T. standing for bon a tier (good to pull). All prints coming before were designated as printers proofs . All subsequent prints were compared to this print. If the looked identical they became part of the numbered edition. If they didn't, the were torn up. The artist was given a portion of the edition (to sell) as payment for his work. Today, though artists get paid for their editions, the tradition of the โartistโs proofโ has persisted and a certain number of impressions are put aside for the artist to do with as he will. Artistโs proofs are annotated as such or as A.P., or Epreuve dโartiste or E.A.
The AP are from series of 7x The PP are from series of 3xย Yes, I can read. But thereโs no difference between APs and PPs. Itโs just a ridiculous way of adding more prints (and prices) to an edition. A/P's and P/P's are a carry over from traditional printing/editioning, mostly associated with lithography, intaglio and relief. It used to be that when an edition was being proofed, the various stages would be executed until the artist selected the end result that was to their liking. This print was marked B.A.T. standing for bon a tier (good to pull). All prints coming before were designated as printers proofs . All subsequent prints were compared to this print. If the looked identical they became part of the numbered edition. If they didn't, the were torn up. The artist was given a portion of the edition (to sell) as payment for his work. Today, though artists get paid for their editions, the tradition of the โartistโs proofโ has persisted and a certain number of impressions are put aside for the artist to do with as he will. Artistโs proofs are annotated as such or as A.P., or Epreuve dโartiste or E.A. |
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LJCal
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New Ben Eine release , by LJCal on Jan 24, 2020 1:28:13 GMT 1, Probably some flip potential on these, itโs a good price and one of his better images.
Probably some flip potential on these, itโs a good price and one of his better images.
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Riotcops
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New Ben Eine release , by Riotcops on Jan 24, 2020 3:57:34 GMT 1, The AP are from series of 7x The PP are from series of 3x Yes, I can read. But thereโs no difference between APs and PPs. Itโs just a ridiculous way of adding more prints (and prices) to an edition.
The AP are from series of 7x The PP are from series of 3x Yes, I can read. But thereโs no difference between APs and PPs. Itโs just a ridiculous way of adding more prints (and prices) to an edition. The weirdest part of it all is there's no edition, says they're only selling AP's and PP's. My understanding is PP's are first runs to test and gifted to every member of the print team - they should not be sold. The AP's were given to the artist to ensure quality and sign off to give the go ahead with the printing. Thus AP's are often considered more valuable to collectors as they are directly linked to the artist and a piece that they were hands on with. These are sometimes sold or the artist does as they wish with them. |
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Ottomatik
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New Ben Eine release , by Ottomatik on Jan 24, 2020 4:00:26 GMT 1, So whereโs the numbered edition?
So whereโs the numbered edition?
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touchdowntodd
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New Ben Eine release , by touchdowntodd on Jan 24, 2020 4:35:29 GMT 1, Yes, I can read. But thereโs no difference between APs and PPs. Itโs just a ridiculous way of adding more prints (and prices) to an edition. The weirdest part of it all is there's no edition, says they're only selling AP's and PP's. My understanding is PP's are first runs to test and gifted to every member of the print team - they should not be sold. The AP's were given to the artist to ensure quality and sign off to give the go ahead with the printing. Thus AP's are often considered more valuable to collectors as they are directly linked to the artist and a piece that they were hands on with. These are sometimes sold or the artist does as they wish with them.ย
Those ap comments haven't really been true for years.. it's just a way to print more at this point
Yes, I can read. But thereโs no difference between APs and PPs. Itโs just a ridiculous way of adding more prints (and prices) to an edition. The weirdest part of it all is there's no edition, says they're only selling AP's and PP's. My understanding is PP's are first runs to test and gifted to every member of the print team - they should not be sold. The AP's were given to the artist to ensure quality and sign off to give the go ahead with the printing. Thus AP's are often considered more valuable to collectors as they are directly linked to the artist and a piece that they were hands on with. These are sometimes sold or the artist does as they wish with them.ย Those ap comments haven't really been true for years.. it's just a way to print more at this point |
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New Ben Eine release , by Happy Shopper on Jan 24, 2020 10:52:11 GMT 1, Yes, I can read. But thereโs no difference between APs and PPs. Itโs just a ridiculous way of adding more prints (and prices) to an edition. The weirdest part of it all is there's no edition, says they're only selling AP's and PP's. My understanding is PP's are first runs to test and gifted to every member of the print team - they should not be sold. The AP's were given to the artist to ensure quality and sign off to give the go ahead with the printing. Thus AP's are often considered more valuable to collectors as they are directly linked to the artist and a piece that they were hands on with. These are sometimes sold or the artist does as they wish with them.
What's funny is that Ben is the artist and probably printer too!
So the lettering and numbering is totally arbitrary.
10 identical prints in front of him... 7 of these, 3 of these... and price the 3 slightly higher 
Yes, I can read. But thereโs no difference between APs and PPs. Itโs just a ridiculous way of adding more prints (and prices) to an edition. The weirdest part of it all is there's no edition, says they're only selling AP's and PP's. My understanding is PP's are first runs to test and gifted to every member of the print team - they should not be sold. The AP's were given to the artist to ensure quality and sign off to give the go ahead with the printing. Thus AP's are often considered more valuable to collectors as they are directly linked to the artist and a piece that they were hands on with. These are sometimes sold or the artist does as they wish with them. What's funny is that Ben is the artist and probably printer too! So the lettering and numbering is totally arbitrary. 10 identical prints in front of him... 7 of these, 3 of these... and price the 3 slightly higher |
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Hubble Bubble
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New Ben Eine release , by Hubble Bubble on Jan 24, 2020 11:11:23 GMT 1, Yes, I can read. But thereโs no difference between APs and PPs. Itโs just a ridiculous way of adding more prints (and prices) to an edition. A/P's and P/P's are a carry over from traditional printing/editioning, mostly associated with lithography, intaglio and relief. It used to be that when an edition was being proofed, the various stages would be executed until the artist selected the end result that was to their liking. This print was marked B.A.T. standing for bon a tier (good to pull). All prints coming before were designated as printers proofs . All subsequent prints were compared to this print. If the looked identical they became part of the numbered edition. If they didn't, the were torn up. The artist was given a portion of the edition (to sell) as payment for his work. Today, though artists get paid for their editions, the tradition of the โartistโs proofโ has persisted and a certain number of impressions are put aside for the artist to do with as he will. Artistโs proofs are annotated as such or as A.P., or Epreuve dโartiste or E.A.
Yes, I can read. But thereโs no difference between APs and PPs. Itโs just a ridiculous way of adding more prints (and prices) to an edition. A/P's and P/P's are a carry over from traditional printing/editioning, mostly associated with lithography, intaglio and relief. It used to be that when an edition was being proofed, the various stages would be executed until the artist selected the end result that was to their liking. This print was marked B.A.T. standing for bon a tier (good to pull). All prints coming before were designated as printers proofs . All subsequent prints were compared to this print. If the looked identical they became part of the numbered edition. If they didn't, the were torn up. The artist was given a portion of the edition (to sell) as payment for his work. Today, though artists get paid for their editions, the tradition of the โartistโs proofโ has persisted and a certain number of impressions are put aside for the artist to do with as he will. Artistโs proofs are annotated as such or as A.P., or Epreuve dโartiste or E.A. Posts like this remind me of the good old days. Thanks kwatis - very informative! |
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Runit
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New Ben Eine release , by Runit on Jan 24, 2020 13:09:12 GMT 1, The stencils on his wall are far more interesting than this print. I think he needs to get more into HPM with spraypaint etc.
The stencils on his wall are far more interesting than this print. I think he needs to get more into HPM with spraypaint etc.
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Riotcops
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New Ben Eine release , by Riotcops on Jan 24, 2020 15:35:34 GMT 1, The weirdest part of it all is there's no edition, says they're only selling AP's and PP's. My understanding is PP's are first runs to test and gifted to every member of the print team - they should not be sold. The AP's were given to the artist to ensure quality and sign off to give the go ahead with the printing. Thus AP's are often considered more valuable to collectors as they are directly linked to the artist and a piece that they were hands on with. These are sometimes sold or the artist does as they wish with them. Those ap comments haven't really been true for years.. it's just a way to print more at this point
The weirdest part of it all is there's no edition, says they're only selling AP's and PP's. My understanding is PP's are first runs to test and gifted to every member of the print team - they should not be sold. The AP's were given to the artist to ensure quality and sign off to give the go ahead with the printing. Thus AP's are often considered more valuable to collectors as they are directly linked to the artist and a piece that they were hands on with. These are sometimes sold or the artist does as they wish with them. Those ap comments haven't really been true for years.. it's just a way to print more at this point The part about being handled by the artist or the valued higher? They do indeed handle a smaller batch (say 50) and don't inspect the full batch of 500 as closely. Obviously every artist and situation is different. I personally value AP's higher as its a smaller or rarer edition but understand others don't. |
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LJCal
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New Ben Eine release , by LJCal on Jan 24, 2020 19:59:00 GMT 1, Bagged one, think it makes zero difference if its ap or pp
Bagged one, think it makes zero difference if its ap or pp
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