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Artists - Galleries - Fans, by Daniel Silk on Feb 7, 2020 15:36:15 GMT 1, I think things have changed so much in the last 10 years within this scene regarding the relationship between the Artists, Galleries and the Fans. I feel years ago the Artists were very close and connected with the people who were buying the art, but now things seem very distant. To me, it feels like many artists have slowly lost touch with reality and have got caught up in becoming like a art celebrity, and over time their sales drop off and they can’t understand why. Also many artists give out mixed messages when it comes down to their motivations, trying to present themselves as political and social activists doing things for charity, but then also doing things that are clearly just about raising their value and making more money. I think it has left many art fans confused and wondering what is really genuine and what is just a show.
what do you think?
I think things have changed so much in the last 10 years within this scene regarding the relationship between the Artists, Galleries and the Fans. I feel years ago the Artists were very close and connected with the people who were buying the art, but now things seem very distant. To me, it feels like many artists have slowly lost touch with reality and have got caught up in becoming like a art celebrity, and over time their sales drop off and they can’t understand why. Also many artists give out mixed messages when it comes down to their motivations, trying to present themselves as political and social activists doing things for charity, but then also doing things that are clearly just about raising their value and making more money. I think it has left many art fans confused and wondering what is really genuine and what is just a show.
what do you think?
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wrigs
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Artists - Galleries - Fans, by wrigs on Feb 7, 2020 15:48:07 GMT 1, Think it depends on the personality and where they are in their career. Reached out to an artist on Instagram the other day who couldn’t have been nicer and was just pleased her work resonated with someone. Others haven’t bothered replying especially once linked with a gallery and their prices have been hiked dramatically.
As you say it is some what ironic that these artists start on the streets raging against the machine only to eventually become part of it!
Think it depends on the personality and where they are in their career. Reached out to an artist on Instagram the other day who couldn’t have been nicer and was just pleased her work resonated with someone. Others haven’t bothered replying especially once linked with a gallery and their prices have been hiked dramatically.
As you say it is some what ironic that these artists start on the streets raging against the machine only to eventually become part of it!
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Artists - Galleries - Fans, by Daniel Silk on Feb 7, 2020 16:20:11 GMT 1, Some artists seem to struggle to survive, but most actually have huge opportunities, it’s just they are not good at connecting with their potential customers.
Some artists seem to struggle to survive, but most actually have huge opportunities, it’s just they are not good at connecting with their potential customers.
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Artists - Galleries - Fans, by Guy Denning on Feb 7, 2020 23:54:38 GMT 1, Some artists seem to struggle to survive, but most actually have huge opportunities, it’s just they are not good at connecting with their potential customers. Most artists struggle. Perhaps not to survive, but to continue making a living from just art... As for opportunities - most are offered to established names as the commissioners (particularly those that are businesses) are only willing to take so many risks (risk costs...) As for the Life of Riley (and who the fuck was Riley anyway) that so many people think artists have - bear in mind that even for a 'successful' artist they will be giving 50% (sometimes more, occasionally less) to a gallery on every sale. If the artist is very fashionable they'll get one decent solo show per year (with a gallery that can put the wallets to the wall) at which they MUST sell. If that work does not sell it's rare for another gallery to be enthusiastic about taking it on for a second pop... so the artist then has dead stock (that galleries will then get very snippy about being sold at lower prices). And, from my perspective, you're working a year or two behind the show date (if it's a work intensive medium like oil painting). So if the work's not a seller, you're probably financially bollocksed for the next two years... that's assuming that a change of direction (another thing galleries don't really like artists with an established aesthetic doing) will be taken on for a future exhibition. The main way to keep doing art as a life job is to take financial benefits when they do arrive (clear mortgage etc) and then live a quiet life in the future whilst continuing to work. And have a partner that supports that lifestyle... 'cause it ain't all sunshine and flowers... Some of the messages I receive do make me think that a lot of people think artists basically 'draw money' when they need it. Some geezer the other day stated that some bloody 'celebrity info' website said I had a six figure salary!! Therefore he was due some charitable chunk from me... Every year (bar one) I earn less than the average wage. In quiet years I've barely scraped the minimum wage. But I'm fortunate that we sold up in the UK to buy a place outright in France twelve years ago... where we can also grow a lot of our own food.
Some artists seem to struggle to survive, but most actually have huge opportunities, it’s just they are not good at connecting with their potential customers. Most artists struggle. Perhaps not to survive, but to continue making a living from just art... As for opportunities - most are offered to established names as the commissioners (particularly those that are businesses) are only willing to take so many risks (risk costs...) As for the Life of Riley (and who the fuck was Riley anyway) that so many people think artists have - bear in mind that even for a 'successful' artist they will be giving 50% (sometimes more, occasionally less) to a gallery on every sale. If the artist is very fashionable they'll get one decent solo show per year (with a gallery that can put the wallets to the wall) at which they MUST sell. If that work does not sell it's rare for another gallery to be enthusiastic about taking it on for a second pop... so the artist then has dead stock (that galleries will then get very snippy about being sold at lower prices). And, from my perspective, you're working a year or two behind the show date (if it's a work intensive medium like oil painting). So if the work's not a seller, you're probably financially bollocksed for the next two years... that's assuming that a change of direction (another thing galleries don't really like artists with an established aesthetic doing) will be taken on for a future exhibition. The main way to keep doing art as a life job is to take financial benefits when they do arrive (clear mortgage etc) and then live a quiet life in the future whilst continuing to work. And have a partner that supports that lifestyle... 'cause it ain't all sunshine and flowers... Some of the messages I receive do make me think that a lot of people think artists basically 'draw money' when they need it. Some geezer the other day stated that some bloody 'celebrity info' website said I had a six figure salary!! Therefore he was due some charitable chunk from me... Every year (bar one) I earn less than the average wage. In quiet years I've barely scraped the minimum wage. But I'm fortunate that we sold up in the UK to buy a place outright in France twelve years ago... where we can also grow a lot of our own food.
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