I see on another thread you're trying to sell a Joyce Pensato. Could you imagine how annoying it would be if someone chipped in with comments about her drug taking and by it, the funding of criminal activity which often involves some pretty serious shit, such as murder?

I guess people don't always think of the consequences of their actions until it's too late.

and spousal abuse.

What's it like up there on your moral high horse?

I'm not condoning what he done but I'm sure he regrets every minute of it, also probably not proud of the fact he did what he did

Now sold and thanks to artylang for helping to advertise sale .

ben eine

your welcome orig poster. im sure your buyer is proud to support men punching women in the face at gallery events!

Yesterday, Caroline Flack, who was just 40 years old, took her own life. She'd made the same mistake Ben Eine made. The gutter press and idiots on Social Media had taken it upon themselves to castigate her relentlessly. They knew some, but not all of the facts, yet judged her anyway. There is little doubt that their behaviour contributed to her demise, yet none of it, not a single jot, was any of their business. Whatever mistakes people make in life, they don't deserve to be driven to suicide.

I'd never heard of her so had to do a bit of googling. Sad, very sad

I think there will need to be a backlash on all this stuff. I stopped reading news papers about 10 years ago

I'd be really careful comparing her mental state or life or even the circumstances to Ben. No one deserves to be driven to suicide, absolutely. But don't diminish this woman's death or build a straw man argument by somehow conflating her circumstances and death with Ben's mistake. You have no idea why she committed suicide. None. 

Further, it's obvious you're friends with Ben. I'd urge you to urge him to get in touch with a good mental health specialist if you feel compelled to be out here defending him every time someone points out on an Urban Art forum that he committed this act of domestic violence.

As a woman who has seen many women around her struggle with the consequences of domestic violence I am going to remind you that the victim here is not Ben Eine, I do not wish him any ill will, but it would be nice if you were out here advocating for the real victim.

The victim here is named Maria Claudine. He punched Maria Claudine in her face in public. She didn't want to be part of the news reports either. She didn't want to be humiliated at a gallery in public by someone she cared for. She didn't want to suffer the pain of violence. And she certainly did not want or need to be blamed by Ben's attorney in the media as an equal perpetrator in this situation:


Again, I don't wish Ben any ill will but he is not the victim here. 

If you're not friends with him and you don't believe that people should get involved with stuff that isn't any of their business then why are you out here constantly defending him? And get rid of your own patronizing tone.

I just checked Twitter. Do you know how many mentions of this incident I could find on Twitter? One. So do not conflate Ben's circumstances with Caroline Flack because it's obvious they are very different, down to her partner not wanting to press charges. Plus again you don't know why she chose to end her life sadly.

Violence is destructive. Catastrophically destructive. Life changingly destructive. Violence against women is destructive.

I haven't heard you once say mention the victims name or any empathy for her. You seem to be focused on your support of Ben. Again, urge him to seek some mental health support. If you don't know him your defense of him and his actions makes me wonder if you're not projecting a little yourself now.