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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by exslacker on Mar 30, 2007 23:09:23 GMT 1, For some of us who didn't score one this go round, does anyone think Banksy will release anymore LA prints through POW? If so, do you think it will be another couple months down the road?
For some of us who didn't score one this go round, does anyone think Banksy will release anymore LA prints through POW? If so, do you think it will be another couple months down the road?
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by Montubu7 on Mar 31, 2007 10:54:56 GMT 1, I reckon Trollies & quite soon!
I reckon Trollies & quite soon!
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by romanywg on Mar 31, 2007 12:12:19 GMT 1, Who knows............who cares!
Who knows............who cares!
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by Joe J on Mar 31, 2007 13:20:01 GMT 1, I wanna know
I wanna know
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by corblimeylimey on Mar 31, 2007 14:00:29 GMT 1, You won't know until a few hours before it happens (give or take an hour due to time telling difficulties) and that's if they announce it in advance at all.
Yes clear as mud I know, but that's the way it's been and I don't see it changing.
You won't know until a few hours before it happens (give or take an hour due to time telling difficulties) and that's if they announce it in advance at all.
Yes clear as mud I know, but that's the way it's been and I don't see it changing.
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by dwight on Mar 31, 2007 18:28:59 GMT 1, I'll bet it will be at least a few weeks yet... They'll want to clear out all morons and also get some more mediocre prints up to sell when the next banksy is released..
I'll bet it will be at least a few weeks yet... They'll want to clear out all morons and also get some more mediocre prints up to sell when the next banksy is released..
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by ABC on Mar 31, 2007 18:33:17 GMT 1, Waste of Life waiting to be honest, Use to love getting Banksy prints now it just makes me depressed at losing out to the ebay flipping tossers..
Waste of Life waiting to be honest, Use to love getting Banksy prints now it just makes me depressed at losing out to the ebay flipping tossers..
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by corblimeylimey on Mar 31, 2007 19:57:19 GMT 1, Know where you're coming from ABC, very frustrating experience and I tried 10 minutes of constant refreshing yesterday but I thought sod it, it's just not worth it.
Know where you're coming from ABC, very frustrating experience and I tried 10 minutes of constant refreshing yesterday but I thought sod it, it's just not worth it.
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by ABC on Mar 31, 2007 21:49:52 GMT 1, It is a shame but life goes on
It is a shame but life goes on
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by exslacker on Mar 31, 2007 22:42:26 GMT 1, You won't know until a few hours before it happens (give or take an hour due to time telling difficulties) and that's if they announce it in advance at all. Yes clear as mud I know, but that's the way it's been and I don't see it changing.
Thanks, I was worried it was just going to be a waiting game. I will be keeping my eyes and ears open.
You won't know until a few hours before it happens (give or take an hour due to time telling difficulties) and that's if they announce it in advance at all. Yes clear as mud I know, but that's the way it's been and I don't see it changing. Thanks, I was worried it was just going to be a waiting game. I will be keeping my eyes and ears open. |
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by ABC on Apr 1, 2007 16:18:26 GMT 1, I would think they are going to space these over the year so 3/4 months gap IMO, but then again who really knows apart from the POW crew and Mr B.
I would think they are going to space these over the year so 3/4 months gap IMO, but then again who really knows apart from the POW crew and Mr B.
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by mammal2 on Apr 1, 2007 16:53:08 GMT 1, i think they will release them quickly! Maybe a few weeks apart!
i think they will release them quickly! Maybe a few weeks apart!
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by BK83 on Apr 1, 2007 16:55:50 GMT 1, I wonder if they'll ever implement the lottery deal. you'd like to think so after Thursday's fiasco...
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I wonder if they'll ever implement the lottery deal. you'd like to think so after Thursday's fiasco...
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by monkeypuzzle on Apr 1, 2007 17:01:35 GMT 1, I wonder if they'll ever implement the lottery deal. you'd like to think so after Thursday's fiasco... J
Thats what I think but its only personal opinion and in no way based on fact / rumour / gospel / tealeaves etc etc etc....
I wonder if they'll ever implement the lottery deal. you'd like to think so after Thursday's fiasco... J We'd like to have thought so 6 months ago with the grannies fiasco, never mind 2 chaotic releases later... recon they will bite the bullet and take the flack for the next 3 shambollock releases before bowing out of the fray and leaving all future print releases to be handled by Lazinc. last print to be released will be sale ends, acompanied by an announcment that the sale well and truly has ended. Thats what I think but its only personal opinion and in no way based on fact / rumour / gospel / tealeaves etc etc etc.... |
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by BK83 on Apr 1, 2007 17:09:18 GMT 1, Sounds about right, actually! haha
If that is the case, and they do decide not to release any more Banksy prints on POW, it will be great to see where their poor service will get them, especially when a large part of their customer base were only trafficking the site due to the Banksy demand.... Onwards and upwards with the small print houses in 2007!!!
Sounds about right, actually! haha
If that is the case, and they do decide not to release any more Banksy prints on POW, it will be great to see where their poor service will get them, especially when a large part of their customer base were only trafficking the site due to the Banksy demand.... Onwards and upwards with the small print houses in 2007!!!
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by ABC on Apr 1, 2007 18:14:10 GMT 1, What makes a print release interesting by Laz is the fact his team can decide who gets them as there is no cart facility on the site. First come first serve is not always the truth when you control the market, Bring it on.
What makes a print release interesting by Laz is the fact his team can decide who gets them as there is no cart facility on the site. First come first serve is not always the truth when you control the market, Bring it on.
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by manchestermike on Apr 1, 2007 18:40:29 GMT 1, What makes a print release interesting by Laz is the fact his team can decide who gets them as there is no cart facility on the site. First come first serve is not always the truth when you control the market, Bring it on.
So previous customers first you reckon?
What makes a print release interesting by Laz is the fact his team can decide who gets them as there is no cart facility on the site. First come first serve is not always the truth when you control the market, Bring it on. So previous customers first you reckon? |
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by smartussi on Apr 1, 2007 19:08:50 GMT 1, I better buy something from Laz right now then to be sure to get on that list!
I better buy something from Laz right now then to be sure to get on that list!
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by tomhills1 on Apr 1, 2007 19:09:37 GMT 1, ABC has summed this up perfectly for me. i just don't care any more. good luck to all who got lucky, sorry to those who didn't. there was a time when i would walk over hot coals to get at a banksy print, now i'm not so sure.
this run of prints is so un-inspired, get a signed one in your hands and you have the opportunity to make a 300% profit, too good to miss really. would you still buy it if it were not signed? i wouldn't, i could live with morons but space is a premium round mine, and there is much more deserving work to fill said space.
i resigned myself a long time ago to the fact that if there is a particular print you want, then buy it. just be prepared to pay top dollar while you're there. 
it's a sad state of affairs i know, but nowadays you have to just put all your eggs in the one basket and learn to love that. no chance of having a wide selection of banksy's and pick and choose what goes on your wall. you have to be much more selective and accept the fact that ebay, and a huge premium, are the way of the world right now.
as i think jaypaav said, 2007 is gonna be a good year for the smaller printhouses.
good. 
ABC has summed this up perfectly for me. i just don't care any more. good luck to all who got lucky, sorry to those who didn't. there was a time when i would walk over hot coals to get at a banksy print, now i'm not so sure. this run of prints is so un-inspired, get a signed one in your hands and you have the opportunity to make a 300% profit, too good to miss really. would you still buy it if it were not signed? i wouldn't, i could live with morons but space is a premium round mine, and there is much more deserving work to fill said space. i resigned myself a long time ago to the fact that if there is a particular print you want, then buy it. just be prepared to pay top dollar while you're there. it's a sad state of affairs i know, but nowadays you have to just put all your eggs in the one basket and learn to love that. no chance of having a wide selection of banksy's and pick and choose what goes on your wall. you have to be much more selective and accept the fact that ebay, and a huge premium, are the way of the world right now. as i think jaypaav said, 2007 is gonna be a good year for the smaller printhouses. good. |
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by buddings on Apr 2, 2007 16:10:24 GMT 1, soon maybe?? the apology on the POW home has now gone.
soon maybe?? the apology on the POW home has now gone.
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by dwight on Apr 2, 2007 16:21:36 GMT 1, I agree with ABC about spacing it over a longer period of months. POW needs time to build up their other artists as much as they can, if in fact Banksy won't be releasing through POW anymore. Banksy is really the main draw to their website for the masses and if he leaves then it will be back to the real print collectors and the storm of sell outs will cease.
(All speculation and opinion of course)
I agree with ABC about spacing it over a longer period of months. POW needs time to build up their other artists as much as they can, if in fact Banksy won't be releasing through POW anymore. Banksy is really the main draw to their website for the masses and if he leaves then it will be back to the real print collectors and the storm of sell outs will cease.
(All speculation and opinion of course)
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gent รacardi on Apr 3, 2007 1:08:20 GMT 1, Personally, I think POW will never stop selling Banksy prints, at least for the forseeable future. Why? Quite simply... you can't have "The Banksy Effect" without Banksy!
Banksy prints are the main source of craziness - I believe no other artist on POW have caused a ghastly frenzy that is as big as when Banksy prints are being released (as of late). His infamy has a lot to do with why other artists' stars are soaring right now. I'm not saying that Banksy is better than all the other POW artists, it's just that instant fame happened to Banksy (it could've well been anyone else, Micallef for instance), and that attracted scores of people to POW, which exponentially expanded the exposure of all the other POW artists. If you take Banksy away from the equation, it's like putting out the fire in the furnace. POW will continue to be successful along with a few front-running artists that have finally gotten the exposure they deserved, but it won't be as successful as compared to if Banksy still called POW his home.
I believe that Banksy has inadvertently (or not, it's debatable) constructed a much-needed stage on which other deserving POW artists (and other street artists for that matter) can finally stand on. Which is why I think Banksy is a crucial cogwheel and hence indispensible at this moment (and I actually believe that the greatest goal of POW is to promote artist exposure, not ยฃยฃยฃ per se). Things may be different after some time (perhaps by the time that all LA prints have been released) when other POW or street artists have gotten enough exposure to fuel the fire on their own. THEN Banksy might retire with enough money to last 5 generations. 
Personally, I think POW will never stop selling Banksy prints, at least for the forseeable future. Why? Quite simply... you can't have "The Banksy Effect" without Banksy! Banksy prints are the main source of craziness - I believe no other artist on POW have caused a ghastly frenzy that is as big as when Banksy prints are being released (as of late). His infamy has a lot to do with why other artists' stars are soaring right now. I'm not saying that Banksy is better than all the other POW artists, it's just that instant fame happened to Banksy (it could've well been anyone else, Micallef for instance), and that attracted scores of people to POW, which exponentially expanded the exposure of all the other POW artists. If you take Banksy away from the equation, it's like putting out the fire in the furnace. POW will continue to be successful along with a few front-running artists that have finally gotten the exposure they deserved, but it won't be as successful as compared to if Banksy still called POW his home. I believe that Banksy has inadvertently (or not, it's debatable) constructed a much-needed stage on which other deserving POW artists (and other street artists for that matter) can finally stand on. Which is why I think Banksy is a crucial cogwheel and hence indispensible at this moment (and I actually believe that the greatest goal of POW is to promote artist exposure, not ยฃยฃยฃ per se). Things may be different after some time (perhaps by the time that all LA prints have been released) when other POW or street artists have gotten enough exposure to fuel the fire on their own. THEN Banksy might retire with enough money to last 5 generations. |
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by dwight on Apr 3, 2007 2:49:01 GMT 1, AgentBacardi, I completely agree with what you've said about Banksy providing the fuel for this POW frenzy. The thing that I was wondering is if Steve Laz may move the sales of Banksy over to the Laz Gallery and sell them for much higher prices. This would be the reason to draw out the release of the LA prints. With the time bought by extending release dates for LA prints, POW has time to try to push other artists to be star sellers while POW still has the driving POW force.
However perhaps, Steve knows he can make more money releasing prints from Banksy at lower prices while selling lots of other cheaper prints with the Banksy draw. This also allows for the continued high volume sales of Banksy and others in the future...
Only time will tell I suppose...
AgentBacardi, I completely agree with what you've said about Banksy providing the fuel for this POW frenzy. The thing that I was wondering is if Steve Laz may move the sales of Banksy over to the Laz Gallery and sell them for much higher prices. This would be the reason to draw out the release of the LA prints. With the time bought by extending release dates for LA prints, POW has time to try to push other artists to be star sellers while POW still has the driving POW force.
However perhaps, Steve knows he can make more money releasing prints from Banksy at lower prices while selling lots of other cheaper prints with the Banksy draw. This also allows for the continued high volume sales of Banksy and others in the future...
Only time will tell I suppose...
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by hungrig on Apr 3, 2007 3:13:53 GMT 1, AgentBacardi, I completely agree with what you've said about Banksy providing the fuel for this POW frenzy. The thing that I was wondering is if Steve Laz may move the sales of Banksy over to the Laz Gallery and sell them for much higher prices. This would be the reason to draw out the release of the LA prints. With the time bought by extending release dates for LA prints, POW has time to try to push other artists to be star sellers while POW still has the driving POW force. However perhaps, Steve knows he can make more money releasing prints from Banksy at lower prices while selling lots of other cheaper prints with the Banksy draw. This also allows for the continued high volume sales of Banksy and others in the future... Only time will tell I suppose...
One point worth bearing in mind is that Lazinc and POW are two separate entities with different shareholders.
Lazinc is 100% owned by Steve Lazarides, meaning that all its profits go to Steve. POW is only partly owned by Steve, so it's in the financial interests of the other POW shareholders that POW hangs on to Banksy to the extent it is able to.
AgentBacardi, I completely agree with what you've said about Banksy providing the fuel for this POW frenzy. The thing that I was wondering is if Steve Laz may move the sales of Banksy over to the Laz Gallery and sell them for much higher prices. This would be the reason to draw out the release of the LA prints. With the time bought by extending release dates for LA prints, POW has time to try to push other artists to be star sellers while POW still has the driving POW force. However perhaps, Steve knows he can make more money releasing prints from Banksy at lower prices while selling lots of other cheaper prints with the Banksy draw. This also allows for the continued high volume sales of Banksy and others in the future... Only time will tell I suppose... One point worth bearing in mind is that Lazinc and POW are two separate entities with different shareholders. Lazinc is 100% owned by Steve Lazarides, meaning that all its profits go to Steve. POW is only partly owned by Steve, so it's in the financial interests of the other POW shareholders that POW hangs on to Banksy to the extent it is able to. |
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by dwight on Apr 3, 2007 4:43:28 GMT 1, touche... hadn't thought of it in that perspective of steve being a minority share holder
touche... hadn't thought of it in that perspective of steve being a minority share holder
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by biggayal on Apr 3, 2007 9:41:30 GMT 1, Isn't Jamie Hewlett the majority shareholder for POW....
This could therefore support the idea that POW are not in it purely for the money (although it's very important!), it could be Jamie's way of helping other artists gain exposure, as he is also highly established himself
This is only a thought, and I may also be incorrect about the majority shareholding claim.......
Isn't Jamie Hewlett the majority shareholder for POW.... This could therefore support the idea that POW are not in it purely for the money (although it's very important!), it could be Jamie's way of helping other artists gain exposure, as he is also highly established himself This is only a thought, and I may also be incorrect about the majority shareholding claim....... |
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gent รacardi on Apr 3, 2007 9:46:31 GMT 1, Isn't Jamie Hewlett the majority shareholder for POW.... This could therefore support the idea that POW are not in it purely for the money (although it's very important!), it could be Jamie's way of helping other artists gain exposure, as he is also highly established himself This is only a thought, and I may also be incorrect about the majority shareholding claim.......
I think POW started with that very purpose - to help artists gain the exposure they deserve... and so that art fans can get the art they want without breaking the bank, which is why they're still keeping the price of Banksy prints much much lower than 'market' prices. I don't think they anticipated being as successful as they got today! At least, that's what I think. Could be wrong of course... nobody can answer that question exactly except for the POW people
Isn't Jamie Hewlett the majority shareholder for POW.... This could therefore support the idea that POW are not in it purely for the money (although it's very important!), it could be Jamie's way of helping other artists gain exposure, as he is also highly established himself This is only a thought, and I may also be incorrect about the majority shareholding claim....... I think POW started with that very purpose - to help artists gain the exposure they deserve... and so that art fans can get the art they want without breaking the bank, which is why they're still keeping the price of Banksy prints much much lower than 'market' prices. I don't think they anticipated being as successful as they got today! At least, that's what I think. Could be wrong of course... nobody can answer that question exactly except for the POW people |
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by dmandpenfold on Apr 3, 2007 13:25:35 GMT 1, righto AgentBacardi, i'm putting a complaint in to Silky about the excessive number of emoticons in your last post
righto AgentBacardi, i'm putting a complaint in to Silky about the excessive number of emoticons in your last post |
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by wildbill on Apr 4, 2007 1:50:33 GMT 1, I think POW will probably wait a long while before releasing Trollies. Maybe even sometime closer to Christmas.
I also believe that POW will continue to be the main distributor for Banksy's until Mr. B decides otherwise. Laz does not have the infrastructure built to handle it, and they're probably very happy with their current arrangement......much less headaches.
here's a few interesting facts:
Pow grossed approx. $750,000 in the last Banksy release.
56.4% of POW's user's are based in the UK.
Only 12.8% are from the United States
I think POW will probably wait a long while before releasing Trollies. Maybe even sometime closer to Christmas.
I also believe that POW will continue to be the main distributor for Banksy's until Mr. B decides otherwise. Laz does not have the infrastructure built to handle it, and they're probably very happy with their current arrangement......much less headaches.
here's a few interesting facts:
Pow grossed approx. $750,000 in the last Banksy release.
56.4% of POW's user's are based in the UK.
Only 12.8% are from the United States
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Next release from Banksy on POW?, by dwight on Apr 4, 2007 5:06:06 GMT 1, I feel confident saying that Trolleys will likely be the last of the series released.
I feel confident saying that Trolleys will likely be the last of the series released.
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