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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 4:10:04 GMT 1, No.11 makes sense , trash bags so thin these days ,usually split, useful to double bag or triple bag rubbish if bin men go on strike or get infected ,trash builds up fast in one month could have 20 bags outside, last thing have a street of trash blowing around , plus advice from governments for laundry suspected of being contaminated items is to double bag items I personally love the old ladies cart. ๐
No.11 makes sense , trash bags so thin these days ,usually split, useful to double bag or triple bag rubbish if bin men go on strike or get infected ,trash builds up fast in one month could have 20 bags outside, last thing have a street of trash blowing around , plus advice from governments for laundry suspected of being contaminated items is to double bag items I personally love the old ladies cart. ๐ Got me thinking need a few cases of karma kolas๐๐คฃconsidering what's put in place in Europe and the potential for the uk to follow the same path ,hoarding here in the uk has been restrained expected to see more food and drink products sold out in supermarkets |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 4:33:07 GMT 1, Got me thinking need a few cases of karma kolas๐๐คฃconsidering what's put in place in Europe and the potential for the uk to follow the same path ,hoarding here in the uk has been restrained expected to see more food and drink products sold out in supermarkets I sent a buddy of mine the pics my wife took at Walmart and he sent me one of his g-sto in Indiana. The frozen section was completely empty. Not anything. Heโs like, the meat section is closed, fresh meat is gone, so I went to try to get some protein in the frozen section to no avail. Heโs like I guess Iโm eating fast food for now. Not sure what Iโll do if they close that off. Kinda crazy. I hadnโt thought about that. Hopefully some of the people that were discussing getting some backup food supplies on here a little while back were able too. You practically have to know people to get food right now. If your not there when it comes off the truck like the TP at Walmart today, ur screwed.
i posted a video of wallmarts with aisles bare , slowly more people will panic when deaths hit their communities at present still many see as a fuss
Got me thinking need a few cases of karma kolas๐๐คฃconsidering what's put in place in Europe and the potential for the uk to follow the same path ,hoarding here in the uk has been restrained expected to see more food and drink products sold out in supermarkets I sent a buddy of mine the pics my wife took at Walmart and he sent me one of his g-sto in Indiana. The frozen section was completely empty. Not anything. Heโs like, the meat section is closed, fresh meat is gone, so I went to try to get some protein in the frozen section to no avail. Heโs like I guess Iโm eating fast food for now. Not sure what Iโll do if they close that off. Kinda crazy. I hadnโt thought about that. Hopefully some of the people that were discussing getting some backup food supplies on here a little while back were able too. You practically have to know people to get food right now. If your not there when it comes off the truck like the TP at Walmart today, ur screwed. I put in place all items needed two weeks ago as have been actively following all news foreign and home . i posted a video of wallmarts with aisles bare , slowly more people will panic when deaths hit their communities at present still many see as a fuss |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 5:39:59 GMT 1, I take an active stance as resposible for care of others dependant on my actions.plus the way this has been released it has caused panic , any case that involves death and there is no cure of course fear,panic,anxiety will occur at some point and only be calm for so long
Latest news the second wave will be more dangerous and will be next year and now admitting will be more active in the summer ๐
First time I book holidays in advance and this happens , Spain was next month!
www.liveleak.com/view?t=9n0lA_1584352510
Hopefully a eclectic mix of music and not 24hr techno ๐ฌ
I take an active stance as resposible for care of others dependant on my actions.plus the way this has been released it has caused panic , any case that involves death and there is no cure of course fear,panic,anxiety will occur at some point and only be calm for so long Latest news the second wave will be more dangerous and will be next year and now admitting will be more active in the summer ๐ First time I book holidays in advance and this happens , Spain was next month! www.liveleak.com/view?t=9n0lA_1584352510Hopefully a eclectic mix of music and not 24hr techno ๐ฌ |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Express Post on Mar 17, 2020 6:04:34 GMT 1, I wonder what the racist Italian perps that assaulted the east asians earlier in the year for Covid-19 are thinking now. At least they won't be able to go out a commit more hate crimes or sing banana/chimp chants at the Serie A matches.
And to the Italians that do nothing, tolerate such behaviour and allow the racist attacks to persist...#karmaisabitch
I wonder what the racist Italian perps that assaulted the east asians earlier in the year for Covid-19 are thinking now. At least they won't be able to go out a commit more hate crimes or sing banana/chimp chants at the Serie A matches.
And to the Italians that do nothing, tolerate such behaviour and allow the racist attacks to persist...#karmaisabitch
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Express Post on Mar 17, 2020 6:07:40 GMT 1, Guetta at Ushuaรฏa was a transcendental experience.
Top tip if you haven't booked to stay there, pay a bit more to get a driver to pick you up later because there weren't too many available rides after. Not that it matters atm.
I take an active stance as resposible for care of others dependant on my actions.plus the way this has been released it has caused panic , any case that involves death and there is no cure of course fear,panic,anxiety will occur at some point and only be calm for so long Latest news the second wave will be more dangerous and will be next year and now admitting will be more active in the summer ๐ First time I book holidays in advance and this happens , Spain was next month! www.liveleak.com/view?t=9n0lA_1584352510Hopefully a eclectic mix of music and not 24hr techno ๐ฌ Speak for urself. I missed out on hitting up Ibiza in my younger years and u just reminded me of that... ๐ญ Had plenty of friends that did it though back in the ATB days around double-aught when folks thought the world was gonna end. Now Iโm too old and responsible for that scene. I hear itโs an epic experience. Sorry about ur trip. That super sucks. Youโll have plenty of time to do something cool once this gets wrapped up.
Guetta at Ushuaรฏa was a transcendental experience. Top tip if you haven't booked to stay there, pay a bit more to get a driver to pick you up later because there weren't too many available rides after. Not that it matters atm. I take an active stance as resposible for care of others dependant on my actions.plus the way this has been released it has caused panic , any case that involves death and there is no cure of course fear,panic,anxiety will occur at some point and only be calm for so long Latest news the second wave will be more dangerous and will be next year and now admitting will be more active in the summer ๐ First time I book holidays in advance and this happens , Spain was next month! www.liveleak.com/view?t=9n0lA_1584352510Hopefully a eclectic mix of music and not 24hr techno ๐ฌ Speak for urself. I missed out on hitting up Ibiza in my younger years and u just reminded me of that... ๐ญ Had plenty of friends that did it though back in the ATB days around double-aught when folks thought the world was gonna end. Now Iโm too old and responsible for that scene. I hear itโs an epic experience. Sorry about ur trip. That super sucks. Youโll have plenty of time to do something cool once this gets wrapped up. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by sircoxson on Mar 17, 2020 6:12:43 GMT 1, I wonder what the racist Italian perps that assaulted the east asians earlier in the year for Covid-19 are thinking now. At least they won't be able to go out a commit more hate crimes or sing banana/chimp chants at the Serie A matches. And to the Italians that do nothing, tolerate such behaviour and allow the racist attacks to persist...#karmaisabitch
stfu.
you are from the us? #karma
I wonder what the racist Italian perps that assaulted the east asians earlier in the year for Covid-19 are thinking now. At least they won't be able to go out a commit more hate crimes or sing banana/chimp chants at the Serie A matches. And to the Italians that do nothing, tolerate such behaviour and allow the racist attacks to persist...#karmaisabitch stfu. you are from the us? #karma |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Express Post on Mar 17, 2020 6:40:57 GMT 1, WTF, are you serious?? You actually condone racism and casual racism? That's disgraceful.
I wonder what the racist Italian perps that assaulted the east asians earlier in the year for Covid-19 are thinking now. At least they won't be able to go out a commit more hate crimes or sing banana/chimp chants at the Serie A matches. And to the Italians that do nothing, tolerate such behaviour and allow the racist attacks to persist...#karmaisabitch stfu. you are from the us? #karma
WTF, are you serious?? You actually condone racism and casual racism? That's disgraceful. I wonder what the racist Italian perps that assaulted the east asians earlier in the year for Covid-19 are thinking now. At least they won't be able to go out a commit more hate crimes or sing banana/chimp chants at the Serie A matches. And to the Italians that do nothing, tolerate such behaviour and allow the racist attacks to persist...#karmaisabitch stfu. you are from the us? #karma |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Express Post on Mar 17, 2020 8:25:29 GMT 1, Thanks for sharing.
Only a minority of Italians have done terrible things. I am careful to distinguish that. Racism in Italy ranges from social discrimination up to violence/murder. When a survey of close to 50% of the Italian participants say that racism is justified, you know you have a problem. What I should have called out are those who vocalise their grievances about indiscretions against them, but do not bat an eyelid when it goes the other way.
Racism is part of Italy's history with Mussolini rolling out anti-Semitic laws.
I don't dig the Chinese government's abuse of human rights and cover up of the virus. It probably is worse than they are reporting it. Their people are paying the price.
I espouse a mutual respect type approach, a do unto others what you want done to you.
I wonder what the racist Italian perps that assaulted the east asians earlier in the year for Covid-19 are thinking now. At least they won't be able to go out a commit more hate crimes or sing banana/chimp chants at the Serie A matches. And to the Italians that do nothing, tolerate such behaviour and allow the racist attacks to persist...#karmaisabitch Damn. I hadnโt heard about that. Thatโss**tty. Try not to classify a whole country of people by the idiot few. Itโs just as bad. Most of the people that are like that are that way because they are insecure, weak and arenโt very intelligent and theyโre trying to impress their other friends that are doing the same. Not all, but most. Fear is also sometimes a big factor of why people donโt react. I saw this best at the rock the bells concert in SF. Rage ended with killing in the name of and people went nuts. Knocked down the fences. Started bouncing cars in the streets with people in them onto sidewalks for honking at them and the cops just stood there. Why? Cuz they didnโt wanna get beat down by a mob of people doped up on adrenaline. But I hear u, itโs bullshit. Because, in the end, racism in itself is f**kingstupid. โU look or think differently than me, I hate you!โ Itโs what you would expect to hear from a 4 yr old, not grown ass men. If anything, this virus shows us how alike we all really are. Although, nothing against East Asians, but against their leadership. I donโt trust them to rule out they didnโt manufacture this in their lab and it accidentally got out. If anything, Iโd say thatโs where my money is. Especially knowing the only place that would house such a virus is at their disease center in Wuhan. Then factor in it doesnโt show symptoms for sometimes weeks, it would be an easy leak if someone fucked up. Even if that is true. Itโs not their peoples fault. Just like itโs not my fault all thes**tty things my government does. Like the homeless crisis here. Itโs not my fault, but people in my own country treat me like it is.
Thanks for sharing. Only a minority of Italians have done terrible things. I am careful to distinguish that. Racism in Italy ranges from social discrimination up to violence/murder. When a survey of close to 50% of the Italian participants say that racism is justified, you know you have a problem. What I should have called out are those who vocalise their grievances about indiscretions against them, but do not bat an eyelid when it goes the other way. Racism is part of Italy's history with Mussolini rolling out anti-Semitic laws. I don't dig the Chinese government's abuse of human rights and cover up of the virus. It probably is worse than they are reporting it. Their people are paying the price. I espouse a mutual respect type approach, a do unto others what you want done to you. I wonder what the racist Italian perps that assaulted the east asians earlier in the year for Covid-19 are thinking now. At least they won't be able to go out a commit more hate crimes or sing banana/chimp chants at the Serie A matches. And to the Italians that do nothing, tolerate such behaviour and allow the racist attacks to persist...#karmaisabitch Damn. I hadnโt heard about that. Thatโss**tty. Try not to classify a whole country of people by the idiot few. Itโs just as bad. Most of the people that are like that are that way because they are insecure, weak and arenโt very intelligent and theyโre trying to impress their other friends that are doing the same. Not all, but most. Fear is also sometimes a big factor of why people donโt react. I saw this best at the rock the bells concert in SF. Rage ended with killing in the name of and people went nuts. Knocked down the fences. Started bouncing cars in the streets with people in them onto sidewalks for honking at them and the cops just stood there. Why? Cuz they didnโt wanna get beat down by a mob of people doped up on adrenaline. But I hear u, itโs bullshit. Because, in the end, racism in itself is f**kingstupid. โU look or think differently than me, I hate you!โ Itโs what you would expect to hear from a 4 yr old, not grown ass men. If anything, this virus shows us how alike we all really are. Although, nothing against East Asians, but against their leadership. I donโt trust them to rule out they didnโt manufacture this in their lab and it accidentally got out. If anything, Iโd say thatโs where my money is. Especially knowing the only place that would house such a virus is at their disease center in Wuhan. Then factor in it doesnโt show symptoms for sometimes weeks, it would be an easy leak if someone fucked up. Even if that is true. Itโs not their peoples fault. Just like itโs not my fault all thes**tty things my government does. Like the homeless crisis here. Itโs not my fault, but people in my own country treat me like it is. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mw on Mar 17, 2020 9:34:42 GMT 1, Is there an official account now of where the virus originated from ? It's almost like a movie storyline just need aliens now ๐ค๐ Maybe that Area 51 storm movement from last year will have a better chance in a few months ๐ฝ๐พ They supposedly donโt know. But itโs China. Iโll take any official release with a grain of salt from them. But last I heard is they were close to patient zero but hadnโt found them. I think another member had a descent point about how it seems to be a lot like the original world war z book. Where the virus occurred due to China... Also, in the book, the virus occurs due to their illegal trafficking of human parts. Brad Pitt decided to leave out China after winning a bidding war w/ Leonardo for the movie rights. due to China being the second largest market outside the USA and didnโt want to risk them banning it. Which they would have. Actually the book is 100% different than the movie. The epicenter becomes the Bronx and not Israel or wherever it was like in the movie. Itโs a good read. ๐
Comes from bats, which are eaten but they also defecate into areas where pigs are kept, which are in turn eaten.
Is there an official account now of where the virus originated from ? It's almost like a movie storyline just need aliens now ๐ค๐ Maybe that Area 51 storm movement from last year will have a better chance in a few months ๐ฝ๐พ They supposedly donโt know. But itโs China. Iโll take any official release with a grain of salt from them. But last I heard is they were close to patient zero but hadnโt found them. I think another member had a descent point about how it seems to be a lot like the original world war z book. Where the virus occurred due to China... Also, in the book, the virus occurs due to their illegal trafficking of human parts. Brad Pitt decided to leave out China after winning a bidding war w/ Leonardo for the movie rights. due to China being the second largest market outside the USA and didnโt want to risk them banning it. Which they would have. Actually the book is 100% different than the movie. The epicenter becomes the Bronx and not Israel or wherever it was like in the movie. Itโs a good read. ๐ Comes from bats, which are eaten but they also defecate into areas where pigs are kept, which are in turn eaten. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by pellets on Mar 17, 2020 10:08:43 GMT 1, I personally love the old ladies cart. ๐ Got me thinking need a few cases of karma kolas๐๐คฃconsidering what's put in place in Europe and the potential for the uk to follow the same path ,hoarding here in the uk has been restrained expected to see more food and drink products sold out in supermarkets
Im wondering if peoples Brexit preparation meant they had a decent amount of tinned goods at home so didnt need to go over the top to re-stock up for this situation. Last couple of weekends the supermarkets near me have been busier than usual but still fairly well stocked (save for pasta, tinned chopped tomatoes and loo roll) and everyone being polite. Nothing like the horror stories ive seen on tv.
I personally love the old ladies cart. ๐ Got me thinking need a few cases of karma kolas๐๐คฃconsidering what's put in place in Europe and the potential for the uk to follow the same path ,hoarding here in the uk has been restrained expected to see more food and drink products sold out in supermarkets Im wondering if peoples Brexit preparation meant they had a decent amount of tinned goods at home so didnt need to go over the top to re-stock up for this situation. Last couple of weekends the supermarkets near me have been busier than usual but still fairly well stocked (save for pasta, tinned chopped tomatoes and loo roll) and everyone being polite. Nothing like the horror stories ive seen on tv. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by embee on Mar 17, 2020 10:44:24 GMT 1, Got me thinking need a few cases of karma kolas๐๐คฃconsidering what's put in place in Europe and the potential for the uk to follow the same path ,hoarding here in the uk has been restrained expected to see more food and drink products sold out in supermarkets Im wondering if peoples Brexit preparation meant they had a decent amount of tinned goods at home so didnt need to go over the top to re-stock up for this situation. Last couple of weekends the supermarkets near me have been busier than usual but still fairly well stocked (save for pasta, tinned chopped tomatoes and loo roll) and everyone being polite. Nothing like the horror stories ive seen on tv.
I've got about 7 days worth here, which is enough for assuming that I may go down with this and have to totally isolate, and may not be able to rely on a friend or something dropping things round for me 'immediately', but surely would be able to sort something out over that period for the following 7 days. I also live alone and I'm from Australia, i.e. I would be relying on friends, not family. That was my assumption a week ago, and I think I should reconsider that as if movement restrictions are suddenly put in place, I should assume the full 14 days without 'support' available.
The next consideration of course should be the complete and total collapse of all civil society... I'd think that if France can pull it off without that, the UK definitely can, so let's see how they go! I'd even respectfully say that the US is a far more likely candidate for social disintegration, but that doesn't account for micro-collapses, e.g. the UK might not descend into chaos, but some individual parts of London might have short term issues at differing points.
Got me thinking need a few cases of karma kolas๐๐คฃconsidering what's put in place in Europe and the potential for the uk to follow the same path ,hoarding here in the uk has been restrained expected to see more food and drink products sold out in supermarkets Im wondering if peoples Brexit preparation meant they had a decent amount of tinned goods at home so didnt need to go over the top to re-stock up for this situation. Last couple of weekends the supermarkets near me have been busier than usual but still fairly well stocked (save for pasta, tinned chopped tomatoes and loo roll) and everyone being polite. Nothing like the horror stories ive seen on tv. Yep, North London here - it's all been quite reasonable and calm. Of course everyone is stocking up a bit, but that's also given the understanding that if you wake up with a headache, you and all of your household need to totally isolate yourself for a fortnight, so naturally, people are going to buy additional stocks of things, and it's actually the correct thing to do in the wider public interest, as it makes it more likely that those who do wake up feeling off, can and do just stay home from that exact moment on. I've got about 7 days worth here, which is enough for assuming that I may go down with this and have to totally isolate, and may not be able to rely on a friend or something dropping things round for me 'immediately', but surely would be able to sort something out over that period for the following 7 days. I also live alone and I'm from Australia, i.e. I would be relying on friends, not family. That was my assumption a week ago, and I think I should reconsider that as if movement restrictions are suddenly put in place, I should assume the full 14 days without 'support' available. The next consideration of course should be the complete and total collapse of all civil society... I'd think that if France can pull it off without that, the UK definitely can, so let's see how they go! I'd even respectfully say that the US is a far more likely candidate for social disintegration, but that doesn't account for micro-collapses, e.g. the UK might not descend into chaos, but some individual parts of London might have short term issues at differing points. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by wrigs on Mar 17, 2020 11:17:05 GMT 1, Survival of the fittest. Some things you don't have any choice like being disabled, migrant (refugee I assume), homelessness. But smoking, drinking too much and taking drugs I have no sympathy. Got no tolerance for substance abuse and drug dependency. Scary reading the article as the football coach did not know he had underlying health isssues and only found out when showed symptoms of covid 19, this is will be wiping out many unsuspecting people in the future monthsย So far it's anyone with underlying ย medical conditions regardless of age , which happens to show by stats the oldest population as the highest mortality rate as they have the highest health issues of age groupsย anyone with weak immune systems regardless of age which would be a high majority of the below : elderlyย people with underlying health issuesย disabledย homeless personsย migrants alcoholicsย drug addictsย babies
Nice to see this virus bringing out the best in humanity. Alcoholism and drug dependency are also heavily linked with poverty, I donโt think many choose to be alcoholics because they really love the taste of a good pint! We can all sit and be virtuous and look down at others misfortune and sit comfortably in the knowledge that it wonโt happen to us or you can choose to be understanding and dig a little deeper. The virus wonโt discriminate. Interesting you seem fine with weed, because of course that does no damage to users mental health? Iโm guessing as this may be that you dabbled once one crazy night during university so deem now acceptable?
Not sure where your hatred of a whole nation comes from in terms of the Italians, somewhat ironic your spewing the same kind of hate that you claim you despise. Iโm not sure a whole lot of old people dying due to racism by a few can be classed as Karma? Donโt think itโs what the Buddhists had in mind
Survival of the fittest. Some things you don't have any choice like being disabled, migrant (refugee I assume), homelessness. But smoking, drinking too much and taking drugs I have no sympathy. Got no tolerance for substance abuse and drug dependency. Scary reading the article as the football coach did not know he had underlying health isssues and only found out when showed symptoms of covid 19, this is will be wiping out many unsuspecting people in the future monthsย So far it's anyone with underlying ย medical conditions regardless of age , which happens to show by stats the oldest population as the highest mortality rate as they have the highest health issues of age groupsย anyone with weak immune systems regardless of age which would be a high majority of the below : elderlyย people with underlying health issuesย disabledย homeless personsย migrants alcoholicsย drug addictsย babies Nice to see this virus bringing out the best in humanity. Alcoholism and drug dependency are also heavily linked with poverty, I donโt think many choose to be alcoholics because they really love the taste of a good pint! We can all sit and be virtuous and look down at others misfortune and sit comfortably in the knowledge that it wonโt happen to us or you can choose to be understanding and dig a little deeper. The virus wonโt discriminate. Interesting you seem fine with weed, because of course that does no damage to users mental health? Iโm guessing as this may be that you dabbled once one crazy night during university so deem now acceptable? Not sure where your hatred of a whole nation comes from in terms of the Italians, somewhat ironic your spewing the same kind of hate that you claim you despise. Iโm not sure a whole lot of old people dying due to racism by a few can be classed as Karma? Donโt think itโs what the Buddhists had in mind |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by pellets on Mar 17, 2020 12:15:00 GMT 1, Im wondering if peoples Brexit preparation meant they had a decent amount of tinned goods at home so didnt need to go over the top to re-stock up for this situation. Last couple of weekends the supermarkets near me have been busier than usual but still fairly well stocked (save for pasta, tinned chopped tomatoes and loo roll) and everyone being polite. Nothing like the horror stories ive seen on tv. Yep, North London here - it's all been quite reasonable and calm. Of course everyone is stocking up a bit, but that's also given the understanding that if you wake up with a headache, you and all of your household need to totally isolate yourself for a fortnight, so naturally, people are going to buy additional stocks of things, and it's actually the correct thing to do in the wider public interest, as it makes it more likely that those who do wake up feeling off, can andย do just stay home from that exact moment on.ย ย I've got about 7 days worth here, which is enough for assuming that I may go down with this and have to totally isolate, and may not be able to rely on a friend or something dropping things round for me 'immediately', but surely would be able to sort something out over that period for the following 7 days. I also live alone and I'm from Australia, i.e. I would be relying on friends, not family. That was my assumption a week ago, and I think I should reconsider that as if movement restrictions are suddenly put in place, I should assume the full 14 days without 'support' available.ย The next consideration of course should be the complete and total collapse of all civil society... I'd think that if France can pull it off without that, the UK definitely can, so let's see how they go! I'd even respectfully say that the US is a far more likely candidate for social disintegration, but that doesn't account for micro-collapses, e.g. the UK might not descend into chaos, but some individual parts of London might have short term issues at differing points.ย
We should start a thread to share recipes using only tinned goods.
Also, sorry youre so far from your family, but i suppose if you cant even leave your flat it doesnt matter how far away people are! Good olโ FaceTime will keep us all connected.
Im wondering if peoples Brexit preparation meant they had a decent amount of tinned goods at home so didnt need to go over the top to re-stock up for this situation. Last couple of weekends the supermarkets near me have been busier than usual but still fairly well stocked (save for pasta, tinned chopped tomatoes and loo roll) and everyone being polite. Nothing like the horror stories ive seen on tv. Yep, North London here - it's all been quite reasonable and calm. Of course everyone is stocking up a bit, but that's also given the understanding that if you wake up with a headache, you and all of your household need to totally isolate yourself for a fortnight, so naturally, people are going to buy additional stocks of things, and it's actually the correct thing to do in the wider public interest, as it makes it more likely that those who do wake up feeling off, can andย do just stay home from that exact moment on.ย ย I've got about 7 days worth here, which is enough for assuming that I may go down with this and have to totally isolate, and may not be able to rely on a friend or something dropping things round for me 'immediately', but surely would be able to sort something out over that period for the following 7 days. I also live alone and I'm from Australia, i.e. I would be relying on friends, not family. That was my assumption a week ago, and I think I should reconsider that as if movement restrictions are suddenly put in place, I should assume the full 14 days without 'support' available.ย The next consideration of course should be the complete and total collapse of all civil society... I'd think that if France can pull it off without that, the UK definitely can, so let's see how they go! I'd even respectfully say that the US is a far more likely candidate for social disintegration, but that doesn't account for micro-collapses, e.g. the UK might not descend into chaos, but some individual parts of London might have short term issues at differing points.ย We should start a thread to share recipes using only tinned goods. Also, sorry youre so far from your family, but i suppose if you cant even leave your flat it doesnt matter how far away people are! Good olโ FaceTime will keep us all connected. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by GMA on Mar 17, 2020 12:25:46 GMT 1, I've had to bring in a pay within 14 days period for my clients.
It's a rough road ahead. ๐ The prints aint going anywhere though ๐คฃ
I've had to bring in a pay within 14 days period for my clients.
It's a rough road ahead. ๐ The prints aint going anywhere though ๐คฃ
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 12:31:14 GMT 1, I've had to bring in a pay within 14 days period for my clients. It's a rough road ahead. ๐ The prints aint going anywhere though ๐คฃ
If the electric cuts out the amount of prints some of us have can keep our families warm for years๐
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by GMA on Mar 17, 2020 12:43:03 GMT 1,
Ive got two arriving from Poland, one is big enough to use as a blanket ๐คฃ๐คฃ
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by ozmataz on Mar 17, 2020 13:22:38 GMT 1, UBS did some research and analysis from sales at Art Basel. Seems outdated right now!
www.ubs.com/global/en/our-firm/art.html
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 13:34:00 GMT 1, Im wondering if peoples Brexit preparation meant they had a decent amount of tinned goods at home so didnt need to go over the top to re-stock up for this situation. Last couple of weekends the supermarkets near me have been busier than usual but still fairly well stocked (save for pasta, tinned chopped tomatoes and loo roll) and everyone being polite. Nothing like the horror stories ive seen on tv. Yep, North London here - it's all been quite reasonable and calm. Of course everyone is stocking up a bit, but that's also given the understanding that if you wake up with a headache, you and all of your household need to totally isolate yourself for a fortnight, so naturally, people are going to buy additional stocks of things, and it's actually the correct thing to do in the wider public interest, as it makes it more likely that those who do wake up feeling off, can and do just stay home from that exact moment on. I've got about 7 days worth here, which is enough for assuming that I may go down with this and have to totally isolate, and may not be able to rely on a friend or something dropping things round for me 'immediately', but surely would be able to sort something out over that period for the following 7 days. I also live alone and I'm from Australia, i.e. I would be relying on friends, not family. That was my assumption a week ago, and I think I should reconsider that as if movement restrictions are suddenly put in place, I should assume the full 14 days without 'support' available. The next consideration of course should be the complete and total collapse of all civil society... I'd think that if France can pull it off without that, the UK definitely can, so let's see how they go! I'd even respectfully say that the US is a far more likely candidate for social disintegration, but that doesn't account for micro-collapses, e.g. the UK might not descend into chaos, but some individual parts of London might have short term issues at differing points.
globalriskinsights.com/2019/02/france-italy-europe/
www.nytimes.com/2019/11/06/world/europe/france-macron-immigration.html
France has lots of issues , domestic terrorism , unemployment issues,far right issues..they even had policies in some areas under curfew way before this latest issue , think a documentary on Netflix about these area..
total different set of situations to the uk and may be the boiling point to unrest
Im wondering if peoples Brexit preparation meant they had a decent amount of tinned goods at home so didnt need to go over the top to re-stock up for this situation. Last couple of weekends the supermarkets near me have been busier than usual but still fairly well stocked (save for pasta, tinned chopped tomatoes and loo roll) and everyone being polite. Nothing like the horror stories ive seen on tv. Yep, North London here - it's all been quite reasonable and calm. Of course everyone is stocking up a bit, but that's also given the understanding that if you wake up with a headache, you and all of your household need to totally isolate yourself for a fortnight, so naturally, people are going to buy additional stocks of things, and it's actually the correct thing to do in the wider public interest, as it makes it more likely that those who do wake up feeling off, can and do just stay home from that exact moment on. I've got about 7 days worth here, which is enough for assuming that I may go down with this and have to totally isolate, and may not be able to rely on a friend or something dropping things round for me 'immediately', but surely would be able to sort something out over that period for the following 7 days. I also live alone and I'm from Australia, i.e. I would be relying on friends, not family. That was my assumption a week ago, and I think I should reconsider that as if movement restrictions are suddenly put in place, I should assume the full 14 days without 'support' available. The next consideration of course should be the complete and total collapse of all civil society... I'd think that if France can pull it off without that, the UK definitely can, so let's see how they go! I'd even respectfully say that the US is a far more likely candidate for social disintegration, but that doesn't account for micro-collapses, e.g. the UK might not descend into chaos, but some individual parts of London might have short term issues at differing points. France has lots of issues , domestic terrorism , unemployment issues,far right issues..they even had policies in some areas under curfew way before this latest issue , think a documentary on Netflix about these area.. total different set of situations to the uk and may be the boiling point to unrest |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 13:37:22 GMT 1, Think most of the panic buying is from the people that said this is all a big fuss for nothing weeks ago and said the government has everything in control๐ถ
Think most of the panic buying is from the people that said this is all a big fuss for nothing weeks ago and said the government has everything in control๐ถ
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Terry Fuckwitt on Mar 17, 2020 13:42:42 GMT 1, Is there an official account now of where the virus originated from ? It's almost like a movie storyline just need aliens now ๐ค๐ Maybe that Area 51 storm movement from last year will have a better chance in a few months ๐ฝ๐พ
This is worth a watch to find out more of how it originated.
Is there an official account now of where the virus originated from ? It's almost like a movie storyline just need aliens now ๐ค๐ Maybe that Area 51 storm movement from last year will have a better chance in a few months ๐ฝ๐พ This is worth a watch to find out more of how it originated. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by embee on Mar 17, 2020 14:06:14 GMT 1, Yep, North London here - it's all been quite reasonable and calm. Of course everyone is stocking up a bit, but that's also given the understanding that if you wake up with a headache, you and all of your household need to totally isolate yourself for a fortnight, so naturally, people are going to buy additional stocks of things, and it's actually the correct thing to do in the wider public interest, as it makes it more likely that those who do wake up feeling off, can and do just stay home from that exact moment on. I've got about 7 days worth here, which is enough for assuming that I may go down with this and have to totally isolate, and may not be able to rely on a friend or something dropping things round for me 'immediately', but surely would be able to sort something out over that period for the following 7 days. I also live alone and I'm from Australia, i.e. I would be relying on friends, not family. That was my assumption a week ago, and I think I should reconsider that as if movement restrictions are suddenly put in place, I should assume the full 14 days without 'support' available. The next consideration of course should be the complete and total collapse of all civil society... I'd think that if France can pull it off without that, the UK definitely can, so let's see how they go! I'd even respectfully say that the US is a far more likely candidate for social disintegration, but that doesn't account for micro-collapses, e.g. the UK might not descend into chaos, but some individual parts of London might have short term issues at differing points. France has lots of issues , domestic terrorism , unemployment issues,far right issues..they even had policies in some areas under curfew way before this latest issue , think a documentary on Netflix about these area.. total different set of situations to the uk and may be the boiling point to unrest
Yep, North London here - it's all been quite reasonable and calm. Of course everyone is stocking up a bit, but that's also given the understanding that if you wake up with a headache, you and all of your household need to totally isolate yourself for a fortnight, so naturally, people are going to buy additional stocks of things, and it's actually the correct thing to do in the wider public interest, as it makes it more likely that those who do wake up feeling off, can and do just stay home from that exact moment on. I've got about 7 days worth here, which is enough for assuming that I may go down with this and have to totally isolate, and may not be able to rely on a friend or something dropping things round for me 'immediately', but surely would be able to sort something out over that period for the following 7 days. I also live alone and I'm from Australia, i.e. I would be relying on friends, not family. That was my assumption a week ago, and I think I should reconsider that as if movement restrictions are suddenly put in place, I should assume the full 14 days without 'support' available. The next consideration of course should be the complete and total collapse of all civil society... I'd think that if France can pull it off without that, the UK definitely can, so let's see how they go! I'd even respectfully say that the US is a far more likely candidate for social disintegration, but that doesn't account for micro-collapses, e.g. the UK might not descend into chaos, but some individual parts of London might have short term issues at differing points. France has lots of issues , domestic terrorism , unemployment issues,far right issues..they even had policies in some areas under curfew way before this latest issue , think a documentary on Netflix about these area.. total different set of situations to the uk and may be the boiling point to unrest Yes, that's exactly what I mean. If France can get through it without any issues - given all of what you mention - the UK definitely can too. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Dive Jedi on Mar 17, 2020 14:11:04 GMT 1, Meanwhile in the UK....
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by embee on Mar 17, 2020 14:27:35 GMT 1, Yep, North London here - it's all been quite reasonable and calm. Of course everyone is stocking up a bit, but that's also given the understanding that if you wake up with a headache, you and all of your household need to totally isolate yourself for a fortnight, so naturally, people are going to buy additional stocks of things, and it's actually the correct thing to do in the wider public interest, as it makes it more likely that those who do wake up feeling off, can and do just stay home from that exact moment on. I've got about 7 days worth here, which is enough for assuming that I may go down with this and have to totally isolate, and may not be able to rely on a friend or something dropping things round for me 'immediately', but surely would be able to sort something out over that period for the following 7 days. I also live alone and I'm from Australia, i.e. I would be relying on friends, not family. That was my assumption a week ago, and I think I should reconsider that as if movement restrictions are suddenly put in place, I should assume the full 14 days without 'support' available. The next consideration of course should be the complete and total collapse of all civil society... I'd think that if France can pull it off without that, the UK definitely can, so let's see how they go! I'd even respectfully say that the US is a far more likely candidate for social disintegration, but that doesn't account for micro-collapses, e.g. the UK might not descend into chaos, but some individual parts of London might have short term issues at differing points. We should start a thread to share recipes using only tinned goods. Also, sorry youre so far from your family, but i suppose if you cant even leave your flat it doesnt matter how far away people are! Good olโ FaceTime will keep us all connected.
Yep, North London here - it's all been quite reasonable and calm. Of course everyone is stocking up a bit, but that's also given the understanding that if you wake up with a headache, you and all of your household need to totally isolate yourself for a fortnight, so naturally, people are going to buy additional stocks of things, and it's actually the correct thing to do in the wider public interest, as it makes it more likely that those who do wake up feeling off, can and do just stay home from that exact moment on. I've got about 7 days worth here, which is enough for assuming that I may go down with this and have to totally isolate, and may not be able to rely on a friend or something dropping things round for me 'immediately', but surely would be able to sort something out over that period for the following 7 days. I also live alone and I'm from Australia, i.e. I would be relying on friends, not family. That was my assumption a week ago, and I think I should reconsider that as if movement restrictions are suddenly put in place, I should assume the full 14 days without 'support' available. The next consideration of course should be the complete and total collapse of all civil society... I'd think that if France can pull it off without that, the UK definitely can, so let's see how they go! I'd even respectfully say that the US is a far more likely candidate for social disintegration, but that doesn't account for micro-collapses, e.g. the UK might not descend into chaos, but some individual parts of London might have short term issues at differing points. We should start a thread to share recipes using only tinned goods. Also, sorry youre so far from your family, but i suppose if you cant even leave your flat it doesnt matter how far away people are! Good olโ FaceTime will keep us all connected. Cheers! Yes, I feel totally fine, but two parents in their 70s back home (and my sibling also lives o/s) + chaotic and limited travel + a fortnight of quarantine if I returned, means I have to make some mid-term decisions now, as obviously wouldn't be able to do anything quickly if that were required. What a strange world it has suddenly become... |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 14:40:34 GMT 1,
Some cans no need to spoil, eat straight from the can!yum!
Some cans no need to spoil, eat straight from the can!yum!
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 14:42:29 GMT 1, Yes, that's exactly what I mean. If France can get through it without any issues - given all of what you mention - the UK definitely can too.
Yes, that's exactly what I mean. If France can get through it without any issues - given all of what you mention - the UK definitely can too. If! Time will see, they have only just begun , and now more talk of two years until a vaccine |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Matt on Mar 17, 2020 15:07:06 GMT 1, Yep, North London here - it's all been quite reasonable and calm. Of course everyone is stocking up a bit, but that's also given the understanding that if you wake up with a headache, you and all of your household need to totally isolate yourself for a fortnight, so naturally, people are going to buy additional stocks of things, and it's actually the correct thing to do in the wider public interest, as it makes it more likely that those who do wake up feeling off, can andย do just stay home from that exact moment on.ย ย I've got about 7 days worth here, which is enough for assuming that I may go down with this and have to totally isolate, and may not be able to rely on a friend or something dropping things round for me 'immediately', but surely would be able to sort something out over that period for the following 7 days. I also live alone and I'm from Australia, i.e. I would be relying on friends, not family. That was my assumption a week ago, and I think I should reconsider that as if movement restrictions are suddenly put in place, I should assume the full 14 days without 'support' available.ย The next consideration of course should be the complete and total collapse of all civil society... I'd think that if France can pull it off without that, the UK definitely can, so let's see how they go! I'd even respectfully say that the US is a far more likely candidate for social disintegration, but that doesn't account for micro-collapses, e.g. the UK might not descend into chaos, but some individual parts of London might have short term issues at differing points.ย France has lots of issues , domestic terrorism , unemployment issues,far right issues..they even had policies in some areas under curfew way before this latest issue , think a documentary on Netflix about these area.. total different set of situations to the uk and may be the boiling point to unrest
Honestly mate that is utter tosh. I can make a documentary about London riots, film the worst council estates in the U.K. (long list of locations), zoom in horror of country lines, focus on surge in knife crimes and recent terror attacks in London etc...and the U.K. will look like a war zone
Show some common sense and be less gullible.
If you want to compare the ability of each country to deal with this, have a go at tracking how CFR (death ratio) is unfolding in each EU country
This already is starting to tell quite a good story about the track each country is likely to follow
Yep, North London here - it's all been quite reasonable and calm. Of course everyone is stocking up a bit, but that's also given the understanding that if you wake up with a headache, you and all of your household need to totally isolate yourself for a fortnight, so naturally, people are going to buy additional stocks of things, and it's actually the correct thing to do in the wider public interest, as it makes it more likely that those who do wake up feeling off, can andย do just stay home from that exact moment on.ย ย I've got about 7 days worth here, which is enough for assuming that I may go down with this and have to totally isolate, and may not be able to rely on a friend or something dropping things round for me 'immediately', but surely would be able to sort something out over that period for the following 7 days. I also live alone and I'm from Australia, i.e. I would be relying on friends, not family. That was my assumption a week ago, and I think I should reconsider that as if movement restrictions are suddenly put in place, I should assume the full 14 days without 'support' available.ย The next consideration of course should be the complete and total collapse of all civil society... I'd think that if France can pull it off without that, the UK definitely can, so let's see how they go! I'd even respectfully say that the US is a far more likely candidate for social disintegration, but that doesn't account for micro-collapses, e.g. the UK might not descend into chaos, but some individual parts of London might have short term issues at differing points.ย France has lots of issues , domestic terrorism , unemployment issues,far right issues..they even had policies in some areas under curfew way before this latest issue , think a documentary on Netflix about these area.. total different set of situations to the uk and may be the boiling point to unrest Honestly mate that is utter tosh. I can make a documentary about London riots, film the worst council estates in the U.K. (long list of locations), zoom in horror of country lines, focus on surge in knife crimes and recent terror attacks in London etc...and the U.K. will look like a war zone Show some common sense and be less gullible. If you want to compare the ability of each country to deal with this, have a go at tracking how CFR (death ratio) is unfolding in each EU country This already is starting to tell quite a good story about the track each country is likely to follow |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 15:36:08 GMT 1, Honestly mate that is utter tosh. I can make a documentary about London riots, film the worst council estates in the U.K. (long list of locations), zoom in horror of country lines, focus on surge in knife crimes and recent terror attacks in London etc...and the U.K. will look like a war zone Show some common sense and be less gullible. If you want to compare the ability of each country to deal with this, have a go at tracking how CFR (death ratio) is unfolding in each EU country This already is starting to tell quite a good story about the track each country is likely to follow
It's not about the country or government to
Deal with just management of health service it is the society as a whole , government can project a line of thought and has a duty to enforce ,
why do civil unrest occur ? Why do strikes occur a group of people are unhappy with how they are governed or do not agree with processes over them
It's easy to have policies in place but difficult to enforce to mass populations when some lose rational thought
We still have sexual harassment , discrimination, racism in the workplace but hr have policies in place ? People do not always follow rules , same with all crime and laws and consequences but people still break the rule
This is why France has issued state of emergency and used the army to enforce as a certain element of society will not listen and now it is about containment to stop the spread , everyone needs to READ from the same page .
Even every day people are breaking the rules in Italy and Spain with isolation and potentially spreading death , some people do not listen or like strict governing
policies look good on paper and tick all the right boxes but it is a different story putting into use and enforcing
The same parts you mention about county lines , knife crime etc do you think these types people will listen to government advice if officially told to isolate?the same people that do not have jobs and need to be amongst the public to make money from crime ?
Certain elements of society will cause issues and will cause infection to spread .and when a common groups have the same ideas agendas civil unrest occur
France has a lot of domestic issues and the society feels this and a crisis like this can be a breaking point , emphasis is can not will,, just a snap shot to explain as its a forum
Simple minded๐ถ
Honestly mate that is utter tosh. I can make a documentary about London riots, film the worst council estates in the U.K. (long list of locations), zoom in horror of country lines, focus on surge in knife crimes and recent terror attacks in London etc...and the U.K. will look like a war zone Show some common sense and be less gullible. If you want to compare the ability of each country to deal with this, have a go at tracking how CFR (death ratio) is unfolding in each EU country This already is starting to tell quite a good story about the track each country is likely to follow It's not about the country or government to Deal with just management of health service it is the society as a whole , government can project a line of thought and has a duty to enforce , why do civil unrest occur ? Why do strikes occur a group of people are unhappy with how they are governed or do not agree with processes over them It's easy to have policies in place but difficult to enforce to mass populations when some lose rational thought We still have sexual harassment , discrimination, racism in the workplace but hr have policies in place ? People do not always follow rules , same with all crime and laws and consequences but people still break the rule This is why France has issued state of emergency and used the army to enforce as a certain element of society will not listen and now it is about containment to stop the spread , everyone needs to READ from the same page . Even every day people are breaking the rules in Italy and Spain with isolation and potentially spreading death , some people do not listen or like strict governing policies look good on paper and tick all the right boxes but it is a different story putting into use and enforcing The same parts you mention about county lines , knife crime etc do you think these types people will listen to government advice if officially told to isolate?the same people that do not have jobs and need to be amongst the public to make money from crime ? Certain elements of society will cause issues and will cause infection to spread .and when a common groups have the same ideas agendas civil unrest occur France has a lot of domestic issues and the society feels this and a crisis like this can be a breaking point , emphasis is can not will,, just a snap shot to explain as its a forum Simple minded๐ถ |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 16:14:23 GMT 1, I've just been to Sainsburys. There's literally row upon row of empty shelves. No tinned food; no frozen food; I couldn't even buy a bag of potatoes. I don't think it's even panic-buying anymore. The logistics are starting to fail. Warehouses can't obtain the stocks from suppliers; lorry drivers can't deliver the food to the supermarkets. It really feels as if the whole structure of society is starting to break down. I'm genuinely worried about what the world will be like in a couple of months time.
Government should of put in place isolation rules then like china and Italy allow weekly one person from each family a shopping trip , stock would be evenly distributed and last
Ar the moment the public can see what's happening in china ,Italy and spain , told no cure ,told two years for vaccine potentially, informed a second wave will be more deadly ,Eu passed a law for priority medical equipment to eu states ,uk MAY follow France lead and expect the public not to panic buy ? ๐ค
I've just been to Sainsburys. There's literally row upon row of empty shelves. No tinned food; no frozen food; I couldn't even buy a bag of potatoes. I don't think it's even panic-buying anymore. The logistics are starting to fail. Warehouses can't obtain the stocks from suppliers; lorry drivers can't deliver the food to the supermarkets. It really feels as if the whole structure of society is starting to break down. I'm genuinely worried about what the world will be like in a couple of months time. Raiding allotments next ๐ Government should of put in place isolation rules then like china and Italy allow weekly one person from each family a shopping trip , stock would be evenly distributed and last Ar the moment the public can see what's happening in china ,Italy and spain , told no cure ,told two years for vaccine potentially, informed a second wave will be more deadly ,Eu passed a law for priority medical equipment to eu states ,uk MAY follow France lead and expect the public not to panic buy ? ๐ค |
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