embee
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by embee on Mar 17, 2020 16:30:26 GMT 1, Londons overly-friendly squirrel population don't know what's coming...
But seriously, I saw something this morning about one of the supermarket chains - can't remember which one, one of the big ones - looking to add a lot more staff to their delivery operations (i.e. home delivery services obviously expected to ramp up). Within the article there were a couple of lines in there about their stock v supply. No stock issues and none anticipated by this chain, but it is just moving too fast at the moment - supply issues.
I guess if all of London just went out and bought a months worth of food, they... don't need anymore food for a while? So in theory, as long as there is stock, the supply should catch up soon enough and the shelves will not look like that for too much longer (although no doubt a continuing super-high turnover rate for some items).
Failing that, if people keep on raiding it to build some six month supply, or if a coming stock problem does seem to be something that is on the horizon, then that's when we'll certainly see a different kind of management come into force (full on rations or softer item limits). Think we are a long way off that just yet.
Londons overly-friendly squirrel population don't know what's coming...
But seriously, I saw something this morning about one of the supermarket chains - can't remember which one, one of the big ones - looking to add a lot more staff to their delivery operations (i.e. home delivery services obviously expected to ramp up). Within the article there were a couple of lines in there about their stock v supply. No stock issues and none anticipated by this chain, but it is just moving too fast at the moment - supply issues.
I guess if all of London just went out and bought a months worth of food, they... don't need anymore food for a while? So in theory, as long as there is stock, the supply should catch up soon enough and the shelves will not look like that for too much longer (although no doubt a continuing super-high turnover rate for some items).
Failing that, if people keep on raiding it to build some six month supply, or if a coming stock problem does seem to be something that is on the horizon, then that's when we'll certainly see a different kind of management come into force (full on rations or softer item limits). Think we are a long way off that just yet.
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by acme on Mar 17, 2020 16:45:06 GMT 1, I didn't buy the Jonas Wood fundraising print because I don't want to have my money bound by too much art. So if this virus will be around for 3 months or more I assume people start selling art so they can pay rent, food, mortgage and other expenses.
I didn't buy the Jonas Wood fundraising print because I don't want to have my money bound by too much art. So if this virus will be around for 3 months or more I assume people start selling art so they can pay rent, food, mortgage and other expenses.
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 16:45:45 GMT 1, Ive got two arriving from Poland, one is big enough to use as a blanket ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Ive got two arriving from Poland, one is big enough to use as a blanket ๐คฃ๐คฃ Can see prints on metal and acrylic prices dropping fast , editions on hand torn rag paper up already๐ |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 16:47:33 GMT 1, I didn't buy the Jonas Wood fundraising print because I don't want to have my money bound by too much art. So if this virus will be around for 3 months or more I assume people start selling art so they can pay rent, food, mortgage and other expenses.
I didn't buy the Jonas Wood fundraising print because I don't want to have my money bound by too much art. So if this virus will be around for 3 months or more I assume people start selling art so they can pay rent, food, mortgage and other expenses. The way this forum is with sales don't expect price to be cost or below ๐ |
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Express Post
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Express Post on Mar 17, 2020 16:55:21 GMT 1, If the poor are prioritising their limited funds on alcohol and drugs to deal with their situation, or used as a form of escaping their reality, who is to blame for this outcome? They are accountable for the decisions they make. No different to us. It is a cop out otherwise.
Like any drug, weed is not risk free and does have adverse side effects. It is relatively safer, but can cause problems like dependency and and altered state of mind. These parts I dislike about the drug. But because it doesn't wreak as much havoc as other drugs, it gets a pass.
The last point you made has cleared up a misunderstanding. The virus does not discrminate.
When the virus became reported, there was an immediate stigma unfairly attached to the east asians. In countries outside of China, asians based overseas that had never visited China during the outbreak and did not have the virus faced acts of discrmination. Many in Italy but also cases in UK too. Instead of compassion, patience and solidarity, if you looked east asian you were called out. It could have be someone's father, mother, brother or sister, the sentiment was still there.
Now that the virus has spread to the greater population collecting bodies, and a majority of deaths are of local, not east asians, why doesn't the discrimination continue with the elderly? Is it because they are Italians?
No one deserves to die, but to the Italians that gave the east asians a hard time, and I mean this in the colloquial sense, #karmaisabitch.
Survival of the fittest. Some things you don't have any choice like being disabled, migrant (refugee I assume), homelessness. But smoking, drinking too much and taking drugs I have no sympathy. Got no tolerance for substance abuse and drug dependency. Nice to see this virus bringing out the best in humanity. Alcoholism and drug dependency are also heavily linked with poverty, I donโt think many choose to be alcoholics because they really love the taste of a good pint! We can all sit and be virtuous and look down at others misfortune and sit comfortably in the knowledge that it wonโt happen to us or you can choose to be understanding and dig a little deeper. The virus wonโt discriminate. Interesting you seem fine with weed, because of course that does no damage to users mental health? Iโm guessing as this may be that you dabbled once one crazy night during university so deem now acceptable? Not sure where your hatred of a whole nation comes from in terms of the Italians, somewhat ironic your spewing the same kind of hate that you claim you despise. Iโm not sure a whole lot of old people dying due to racism by a few can be classed as Karma? Donโt think itโs what the Buddhists had in mind
If the poor are prioritising their limited funds on alcohol and drugs to deal with their situation, or used as a form of escaping their reality, who is to blame for this outcome? They are accountable for the decisions they make. No different to us. It is a cop out otherwise. Like any drug, weed is not risk free and does have adverse side effects. It is relatively safer, but can cause problems like dependency and and altered state of mind. These parts I dislike about the drug. But because it doesn't wreak as much havoc as other drugs, it gets a pass. The last point you made has cleared up a misunderstanding. The virus does not discrminate. When the virus became reported, there was an immediate stigma unfairly attached to the east asians. In countries outside of China, asians based overseas that had never visited China during the outbreak and did not have the virus faced acts of discrmination. Many in Italy but also cases in UK too. Instead of compassion, patience and solidarity, if you looked east asian you were called out. It could have be someone's father, mother, brother or sister, the sentiment was still there. Now that the virus has spread to the greater population collecting bodies, and a majority of deaths are of local, not east asians, why doesn't the discrimination continue with the elderly? Is it because they are Italians? No one deserves to die, but to the Italians that gave the east asians a hard time, and I mean this in the colloquial sense, #karmaisabitch. Survival of the fittest. Some things you don't have any choice like being disabled, migrant (refugee I assume), homelessness. But smoking, drinking too much and taking drugs I have no sympathy. Got no tolerance for substance abuse and drug dependency. Nice to see this virus bringing out the best in humanity. Alcoholism and drug dependency are also heavily linked with poverty, I donโt think many choose to be alcoholics because they really love the taste of a good pint! We can all sit and be virtuous and look down at others misfortune and sit comfortably in the knowledge that it wonโt happen to us or you can choose to be understanding and dig a little deeper. The virus wonโt discriminate. Interesting you seem fine with weed, because of course that does no damage to users mental health? Iโm guessing as this may be that you dabbled once one crazy night during university so deem now acceptable? Not sure where your hatred of a whole nation comes from in terms of the Italians, somewhat ironic your spewing the same kind of hate that you claim you despise. Iโm not sure a whole lot of old people dying due to racism by a few can be classed as Karma? Donโt think itโs what the Buddhists had in mind |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Express Post on Mar 17, 2020 16:59:43 GMT 1, With this forum, expect a three month stalemate where art sits. A combination of price gouging, low-balling and good ol' fashion waitin' it out.
I didn't buy the Jonas Wood fundraising print because I don't want to have my money bound by too much art. So if this virus will be around for 3 months or more I assume people start selling art so they can pay rent, food, mortgage and other expenses. The way this forum is with sales don't expect price to be ย cost or below ๐
With this forum, expect a three month stalemate where art sits. A combination of price gouging, low-balling and good ol' fashion waitin' it out. I didn't buy the Jonas Wood fundraising print because I don't want to have my money bound by too much art. So if this virus will be around for 3 months or more I assume people start selling art so they can pay rent, food, mortgage and other expenses. The way this forum is with sales don't expect price to be ย cost or below ๐ |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Rubberneck on Mar 17, 2020 17:21:42 GMT 1, Londons overly-friendly squirrel population don't know what's coming... But seriously, I saw something this morning about one of the supermarket chains - can't remember which one, one of the big ones - looking to add a lot more staff to their delivery operations (i.e. home delivery services obviously expected to ramp up). Within the article there were a couple of lines in there about their stock v supply. No stock issues and none anticipated by this chain, but it is just moving too fast at the moment - supply issues. I guess if all of London just went out and bought a months worth of food, they... don't need anymore food for a while? So in theory, as long as there is stock, the supply should catch up soon enough and the shelves will not look like that for too much longer (although no doubt a continuing super-high turnover rate for some items). Failing that, if people keep on raiding it to build some six month supply, or if a coming stock problem does seem to be something that is on the horizon, then that's when we'll certainly see a different kind of management come into force (full on rations or softer item limits). Think we are a long way off that just yet.
www.wideopenspaces.com/5-best-squirrel-recipes/
Londons overly-friendly squirrel population don't know what's coming... But seriously, I saw something this morning about one of the supermarket chains - can't remember which one, one of the big ones - looking to add a lot more staff to their delivery operations (i.e. home delivery services obviously expected to ramp up). Within the article there were a couple of lines in there about their stock v supply. No stock issues and none anticipated by this chain, but it is just moving too fast at the moment - supply issues. I guess if all of London just went out and bought a months worth of food, they... don't need anymore food for a while? So in theory, as long as there is stock, the supply should catch up soon enough and the shelves will not look like that for too much longer (although no doubt a continuing super-high turnover rate for some items). Failing that, if people keep on raiding it to build some six month supply, or if a coming stock problem does seem to be something that is on the horizon, then that's when we'll certainly see a different kind of management come into force (full on rations or softer item limits). Think we are a long way off that just yet. Lol www.wideopenspaces.com/5-best-squirrel-recipes/ |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by wrigs on Mar 17, 2020 17:31:15 GMT 1, If the poor are prioritising their limited funds on alcohol and drugs to deal with their situation, or used as a form of escaping their reality, who is to blame for this outcome? They are accountable for the decisions they make. No different to us. It is a cop out otherwise. Like any drug, weed is not risk free and does have adverse side effects. It is relatively safer, but can cause problems like dependency and and altered state of mind. These parts I dislike about the drug. But because it doesn't wreak as much havoc as other drugs, it gets a pass. The last point you made has cleared up a misunderstanding. The virus does not discrminate. When the virus became reported, there was an immediate stigma unfairly attached to the east asians. In countries outside of China, asians based overseas that had never visited China during the outbreak and did not have the virus faced acts of discrmination. Many in Italy but also cases in UK too. Instead of compassion, patience and solidarity, if you looked east asian you were called out. It could have be someone's father, mother, brother or sister, the sentiment was still there. Now that the virus has spread to the greater population collecting bodies, and a majority of deaths are of local, not east asians, why doesn't the discrimination continue with the elderly? Is it because they are Italians? No one deserves to die, but to the Italians that gave the east asians a hard time, and I mean this in the colloquial sense, #karmaisabitch. Nice to see this virus bringing out the best in humanity. Alcoholism and drug dependency are also heavily linked with poverty, I donโt think many choose to be alcoholics because they really love the taste of a good pint! We can all sit and be virtuous and look down at others misfortune and sit comfortably in the knowledge that it wonโt happen to us or you can choose to be understanding and dig a little deeper. The virus wonโt discriminate. Interesting you seem fine with weed, because of course that does no damage to users mental health? Iโm guessing as this may be that you dabbled once one crazy night during university so deem now acceptable? Not sure where your hatred of a whole nation comes from in terms of the Italians, somewhat ironic your spewing the same kind of hate that you claim you despise. Iโm not sure a whole lot of old people dying due to racism by a few can be classed as Karma? Donโt think itโs what the Buddhists had in mind
Brilliant. So people from impoverished backgrounds should really just sort themselves out and start living the capitalist dream. Jump on board the party bus and stop making poor life choices you down and outs. Think if you had been born in the middle of a slum in a third world nation you would still hold the same view?
Thanks for your scientific review of Cannabis use. You could add your thoughts to the other experts reviews here; www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2019/06/25/what-is-the-most-dangerous-drug
Ps. Iโm certainly not actually an anti drug campaigner just making the point that there were some glaring inconsistencies in your argument.
Iโm still not understanding your last point which seems to imply that as a few may have been discriminatory towards Asians (very small amount of cases of this recorded here in the UK) large swathes of Italian and UK populations deserve to die? (Otherwise donโt understand your Karma comment). The main offender for this seems to be the leader of the free world, Trump, who continues to call this the โChinese virusโ which is less than helpful being a global issue
If the poor are prioritising their limited funds on alcohol and drugs to deal with their situation, or used as a form of escaping their reality, who is to blame for this outcome? They are accountable for the decisions they make. No different to us. It is a cop out otherwise. Like any drug, weed is not risk free and does have adverse side effects. It is relatively safer, but can cause problems like dependency and and altered state of mind. These parts I dislike about the drug. But because it doesn't wreak as much havoc as other drugs, it gets a pass. The last point you made has cleared up a misunderstanding. The virus does not discrminate. When the virus became reported, there was an immediate stigma unfairly attached to the east asians. In countries outside of China, asians based overseas that had never visited China during the outbreak and did not have the virus faced acts of discrmination. Many in Italy but also cases in UK too. Instead of compassion, patience and solidarity, if you looked east asian you were called out. It could have be someone's father, mother, brother or sister, the sentiment was still there. Now that the virus has spread to the greater population collecting bodies, and a majority of deaths are of local, not east asians, why doesn't the discrimination continue with the elderly? Is it because they are Italians? No one deserves to die, but to the Italians that gave the east asians a hard time, and I mean this in the colloquial sense, #karmaisabitch. Nice to see this virus bringing out the best in humanity. Alcoholism and drug dependency are also heavily linked with poverty, I donโt think many choose to be alcoholics because they really love the taste of a good pint! We can all sit and be virtuous and look down at others misfortune and sit comfortably in the knowledge that it wonโt happen to us or you can choose to be understanding and dig a little deeper. The virus wonโt discriminate. Interesting you seem fine with weed, because of course that does no damage to users mental health? Iโm guessing as this may be that you dabbled once one crazy night during university so deem now acceptable? Not sure where your hatred of a whole nation comes from in terms of the Italians, somewhat ironic your spewing the same kind of hate that you claim you despise. Iโm not sure a whole lot of old people dying due to racism by a few can be classed as Karma? Donโt think itโs what the Buddhists had in mind Brilliant. So people from impoverished backgrounds should really just sort themselves out and start living the capitalist dream. Jump on board the party bus and stop making poor life choices you down and outs. Think if you had been born in the middle of a slum in a third world nation you would still hold the same view? Thanks for your scientific review of Cannabis use. You could add your thoughts to the other experts reviews here; www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2019/06/25/what-is-the-most-dangerous-drugPs. Iโm certainly not actually an anti drug campaigner just making the point that there were some glaring inconsistencies in your argument. Iโm still not understanding your last point which seems to imply that as a few may have been discriminatory towards Asians (very small amount of cases of this recorded here in the UK) large swathes of Italian and UK populations deserve to die? (Otherwise donโt understand your Karma comment). The main offender for this seems to be the leader of the free world, Trump, who continues to call this the โChinese virusโ which is less than helpful being a global issue |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by obao on Mar 17, 2020 17:40:58 GMT 1,
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Balboa on Mar 17, 2020 18:16:37 GMT 1, He didn't know he had leukemia until he got tested for C19. Anything can happen. The guy was stable and then an hour later he croaked. Did you not read the bit about the underlying medical condition?
Regardless of whether he knew he had leukaemia or not, he had it.
It was an underlying condition.
He didn't know he had leukemia until he got tested for C19. Anything can happen. The guy was stable and then an hour later he croaked. Did you not read the bit about the underlying medical condition? Regardless of whether he knew he had leukaemia or not, he had it. It was an underlying condition. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by LJCal on Mar 17, 2020 18:27:25 GMT 1, Sothebyโs results were strong for certain artists and exceeded my expectations. Values of established artists seem to be holding up well.......for now.
Sothebyโs results were strong for certain artists and exceeded my expectations. Values of established artists seem to be holding up well.......for now.
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Express Post
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Express Post on Mar 17, 2020 18:48:43 GMT 1, You make it sound like it is a requisite for being poor. If you are impoverished, you are expected to do drugs and alcohol.
If we have no influence over how they spend welfare or what little money they have earned, at what point is what they do NOT their responsibilty?
As for the article, the graph is 10 years old, and the detail on the methodology, zero. No mention of cannabis in the body of text, which suggests that it isn't deadly otherwise it would have been highlighted. I don't know what you want out of this. I'm still giving weed a pass. It's up to you how you want to view it.
If it is about alcohol abuse and the drugs that end lives, then we probably share the same view that both are bad for the body and detrimental to society.
Not a fan of Trump and his comments. It will come back and bite him.
For Italy, I guess you had to be there to see firsthand the racial bias/xenophobia towards the east asians. I won't go through the examples. They are on google.
Was there justice? Absolutely not. So it gets to a point where something needs to tarnish the other party's reputation so they as a collective get taken down a few notches. And due to the government's sluggish response plus the Italian public carrying on like it didn't matter in Jan, we have a lot of dead bodies. Did it have to be this way? No it didn't.
If the poor are prioritising their limited funds on alcohol and drugs to deal with their situation, or used as a form of escaping their reality, who is to blame for this outcome? They are accountable for the decisions they make. No different to us. It is a cop out otherwise. Like any drug, weed is not risk free and does have adverse side effects. It is relatively safer, but can cause problems like dependency and and altered state of mind. These parts I dislike about the drug. But because it doesn't wreak as much havoc as other drugs, it gets a pass. The last point you made has cleared up a misunderstanding. The virus does not discrminate. When the virus became reported, there was an immediate stigma unfairly attached to the east asians. In countries outside of China, asians based overseas that had never visited China during the outbreak and did not have the virus faced acts of discrmination. Many in Italy but also cases in UK too. Instead of compassion, patience and solidarity, if you looked east asian you were called out. It could have be someone's father, mother, brother or sister, the sentiment was still there. Now that the virus has spread to the greater population collecting bodies, and a majority of deaths are of local, not east asians, why doesn't the discrimination continue with the elderly? Is it because they are Italians? No one deserves to die, but to the Italians that gave the east asians a hard time, and I mean this in the colloquial sense, #karmaisabitch. Brilliant. So people from impoverished backgrounds should really just sort themselves out and start living the capitalist dream. Jump on board the party bus and stop making poor life choices you down and outs. Think if you had been born in the middle of a slum in a third world nation you would still hold the same view? Thanks for your scientific review of Cannabis use. You could add your thoughts to the other experts reviews here; www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2019/06/25/what-is-the-most-dangerous-drugPs. Iโm certainly not actually an anti drug campaigner just making the point that there were some glaring inconsistencies in your argument. Iโm still not understanding your last point which seems to imply that as a few may have been discriminatory towards Asians (very small amount of cases of this recorded here in the UK) large swathes of Italian and UK populations deserve to die? (Otherwise donโt understand your Karma comment). The main offender for this seems to be the leader of the free world, Trump, who continues to call this the โChinese virusโ which is less than helpful being a global issue
You make it sound like it is a requisite for being poor. If you are impoverished, you are expected to do drugs and alcohol. If we have no influence over how they spend welfare or what little money they have earned, at what point is what they do NOT their responsibilty? As for the article, the graph is 10 years old, and the detail on the methodology, zero. No mention of cannabis in the body of text, which suggests that it isn't deadly otherwise it would have been highlighted. I don't know what you want out of this. I'm still giving weed a pass. It's up to you how you want to view it. If it is about alcohol abuse and the drugs that end lives, then we probably share the same view that both are bad for the body and detrimental to society. Not a fan of Trump and his comments. It will come back and bite him. For Italy, I guess you had to be there to see firsthand the racial bias/xenophobia towards the east asians. I won't go through the examples. They are on google. Was there justice? Absolutely not. So it gets to a point where something needs to tarnish the other party's reputation so they as a collective get taken down a few notches. And due to the government's sluggish response plus the Italian public carrying on like it didn't matter in Jan, we have a lot of dead bodies. Did it have to be this way? No it didn't. If the poor are prioritising their limited funds on alcohol and drugs to deal with their situation, or used as a form of escaping their reality, who is to blame for this outcome? They are accountable for the decisions they make. No different to us. It is a cop out otherwise. Like any drug, weed is not risk free and does have adverse side effects. It is relatively safer, but can cause problems like dependency and and altered state of mind. These parts I dislike about the drug. But because it doesn't wreak as much havoc as other drugs, it gets a pass. The last point you made has cleared up a misunderstanding. The virus does not discrminate. When the virus became reported, there was an immediate stigma unfairly attached to the east asians. In countries outside of China, asians based overseas that had never visited China during the outbreak and did not have the virus faced acts of discrmination. Many in Italy but also cases in UK too. Instead of compassion, patience and solidarity, if you looked east asian you were called out. It could have be someone's father, mother, brother or sister, the sentiment was still there. Now that the virus has spread to the greater population collecting bodies, and a majority of deaths are of local, not east asians, why doesn't the discrimination continue with the elderly? Is it because they are Italians? No one deserves to die, but to the Italians that gave the east asians a hard time, and I mean this in the colloquial sense, #karmaisabitch. Brilliant. So people from impoverished backgrounds should really just sort themselves out and start living the capitalist dream. Jump on board the party bus and stop making poor life choices you down and outs. Think if you had been born in the middle of a slum in a third world nation you would still hold the same view? Thanks for your scientific review of Cannabis use. You could add your thoughts to the other experts reviews here; www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2019/06/25/what-is-the-most-dangerous-drugPs. Iโm certainly not actually an anti drug campaigner just making the point that there were some glaring inconsistencies in your argument. Iโm still not understanding your last point which seems to imply that as a few may have been discriminatory towards Asians (very small amount of cases of this recorded here in the UK) large swathes of Italian and UK populations deserve to die? (Otherwise donโt understand your Karma comment). The main offender for this seems to be the leader of the free world, Trump, who continues to call this the โChinese virusโ which is less than helpful being a global issue |
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pellets
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by pellets on Mar 17, 2020 18:56:47 GMT 1, You make it sound like it is a requisite for being poor. If you are impoverished, you are expected to do drugs and alcohol. If we have no influence over how they spend welfare or what little money they have earned, at what point is what they do NOT their responsibilty? As for the article, the graph is 10 years old, and the detail on the methodology, zero. No mention of cannabis in the body of text, which suggests that it isn't deadly otherwise it would have been highlighted. I don't know what you want out of this. I'm still giving weed a pass. It's up to you how you want to view it. If it is about alcohol abuse and the drugs that end lives, then we probably share the same view that both are bad for the body and detrimental to society. Not a fan of Trump and his comments. It will come back and bite him. For Italy, I guess you had to be there to see firsthand the racial bias/xenophobia towards the east asians. I won't go through the examples. They are on google. Was there justice? Absolutely not. So it gets to a point where something needs to tarnish the other party's reputation so they as a collective get taken down a few notches. And due to the government's sluggish response plus the Italian public carrying on like it didn't matter in Jan, we have a lot of dead bodies. Did it have to be this way? No it didn't. Brilliant. So people from impoverished backgrounds should really just sort themselves out and start living the capitalist dream. Jump on board the party bus and stop making poor life choices you down and outs. Think if you had been born in the middle of a slum in a third world nation you would still hold the same view? Thanks for your scientific review of Cannabis use. You could add your thoughts to the other experts reviews here; www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2019/06/25/what-is-the-most-dangerous-drugPs. Iโm certainly not actually an anti drug campaigner just making the point that there were some glaring inconsistencies in your argument. Iโm still not understanding your last point which seems to imply that as a few may have been discriminatory towards Asians (very small amount of cases of this recorded here in the UK) large swathes of Italian and UK populations deserve to die? (Otherwise donโt understand your Karma comment). The main offender for this seems to be the leader of the free world, Trump, who continues to call this the โChinese virusโ which is less than helpful being a global issue
I think you need go read up on addiction as a disease vs a self inflicted daily choice.
You make it sound like it is a requisite for being poor. If you are impoverished, you are expected to do drugs and alcohol. If we have no influence over how they spend welfare or what little money they have earned, at what point is what they do NOT their responsibilty? As for the article, the graph is 10 years old, and the detail on the methodology, zero. No mention of cannabis in the body of text, which suggests that it isn't deadly otherwise it would have been highlighted. I don't know what you want out of this. I'm still giving weed a pass. It's up to you how you want to view it. If it is about alcohol abuse and the drugs that end lives, then we probably share the same view that both are bad for the body and detrimental to society. Not a fan of Trump and his comments. It will come back and bite him. For Italy, I guess you had to be there to see firsthand the racial bias/xenophobia towards the east asians. I won't go through the examples. They are on google. Was there justice? Absolutely not. So it gets to a point where something needs to tarnish the other party's reputation so they as a collective get taken down a few notches. And due to the government's sluggish response plus the Italian public carrying on like it didn't matter in Jan, we have a lot of dead bodies. Did it have to be this way? No it didn't. Brilliant. So people from impoverished backgrounds should really just sort themselves out and start living the capitalist dream. Jump on board the party bus and stop making poor life choices you down and outs. Think if you had been born in the middle of a slum in a third world nation you would still hold the same view? Thanks for your scientific review of Cannabis use. You could add your thoughts to the other experts reviews here; www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2019/06/25/what-is-the-most-dangerous-drugPs. Iโm certainly not actually an anti drug campaigner just making the point that there were some glaring inconsistencies in your argument. Iโm still not understanding your last point which seems to imply that as a few may have been discriminatory towards Asians (very small amount of cases of this recorded here in the UK) large swathes of Italian and UK populations deserve to die? (Otherwise donโt understand your Karma comment). The main offender for this seems to be the leader of the free world, Trump, who continues to call this the โChinese virusโ which is less than helpful being a global issue I think you need go read up on addiction as a disease vs a self inflicted daily choice. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Express Post on Mar 17, 2020 19:03:20 GMT 1, And that's how welfare systems get rorted.
You make it sound like it is a requisite for being poor. If you are impoverished, you are expected to do drugs and alcohol. If we have no influence over how they spend welfare or what little money they have earned, at what point is what they do NOT their responsibilty? As for the article, the graph is 10 years old, and the detail on the methodology, zero. No mention of cannabis in the body of text, which suggests that it isn't deadly otherwise it would have been highlighted. I don't know what you want out of this. I'm still giving weed a pass. It's up to you how you want to view it. If it is about alcohol abuse and the drugs that end lives, then we probably share the same view that both are bad for the body and detrimental to society. Not a fan of Trump and his comments. It will come back and bite him. For Italy, I guess you had to be there to see firsthand the racial bias/xenophobia towards the east asians. I won't go through the examples. They are on google. Was there justice? Absolutely not. So it gets to a point where something needs to tarnish the other party's reputation so they as a collective get taken down a few notches. And due to the government's sluggish response plus the Italian public carrying on like it didn't matter in Jan, we have a lot of dead bodies. Did it have to be this way? No it didn't. I think you need go read up on addiction as a disease vs a self inflicted daily choice.
And that's how welfare systems get rorted. You make it sound like it is a requisite for being poor. If you are impoverished, you are expected to do drugs and alcohol. If we have no influence over how they spend welfare or what little money they have earned, at what point is what they do NOT their responsibilty? As for the article, the graph is 10 years old, and the detail on the methodology, zero. No mention of cannabis in the body of text, which suggests that it isn't deadly otherwise it would have been highlighted. I don't know what you want out of this. I'm still giving weed a pass. It's up to you how you want to view it. If it is about alcohol abuse and the drugs that end lives, then we probably share the same view that both are bad for the body and detrimental to society. Not a fan of Trump and his comments. It will come back and bite him. For Italy, I guess you had to be there to see firsthand the racial bias/xenophobia towards the east asians. I won't go through the examples. They are on google. Was there justice? Absolutely not. So it gets to a point where something needs to tarnish the other party's reputation so they as a collective get taken down a few notches. And due to the government's sluggish response plus the Italian public carrying on like it didn't matter in Jan, we have a lot of dead bodies. Did it have to be this way? No it didn't. I think you need go read up on addiction as a disease vs a self inflicted daily choice. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mojo on Mar 17, 2020 19:44:07 GMT 1, What's that saying? "A society is only three meals away from anarchy ... and nine meals away from a revolution".
Perhaps the "revolution" can involve not being mean to poor people and those with addiction and mental health problems?
What's that saying? "A society is only three meals away from anarchy ... and nine meals away from a revolution".
Perhaps the "revolution" can involve not being mean to poor people and those with addiction and mental health problems?
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Rubberneck on Mar 17, 2020 19:52:32 GMT 1,
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 20:08:49 GMT 1, Scenes at tesco
Scenes at tesco
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Send out a cheque then lockdown all banks, so nobody can cash them in๐ |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 21:00:37 GMT 1, Send out a cheque then lockdown all banks, so nobody can cash them in๐
how many people bank cheques straight away?counting on half not to be cashed in , plus it's feel good factor ๐
Send out a cheque then lockdown all banks, so nobody can cash them in๐ how many people bank cheques straight away?counting on half not to be cashed in , plus it's feel good factor ๐ |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 21:13:31 GMT 1, how many people bank cheques straight away?counting on half not to be cashed in , plus it's feel good factor ๐[/quote]
If anyone doesnโt want to cash or deposit their Art Stimulus checks, please let me know. I promise to give them a good home! ๐[/quote]
These will be collectibles in years to come!depending on how bad and how long this situation lasts !
may be worth more than the cheque!๐
news.sky.com/video/coronavirus-exclusive-morning-shopping-for-elderly-in-oz-11958777
how many people bank cheques straight away?counting on half not to be cashed in , plus it's feel good factor ๐[/quote] If anyone doesnโt want to cash or deposit their Art Stimulus checks, please let me know. I promise to give them a good home! ๐[/quote] These will be collectibles in years to come!depending on how bad and how long this situation lasts ! may be worth more than the cheque!๐ news.sky.com/video/coronavirus-exclusive-morning-shopping-for-elderly-in-oz-11958777 |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Terry Fuckwitt on Mar 17, 2020 21:36:18 GMT 1, Send out a cheque then lockdown all banks, so nobody can cash them in๐ Hey man, no offense, but I donโt know anybody my age that has cashed a check at a bank in years. We just take a pic and deposit it via our phones. We even give the homeless free cell phones. Even cash, everyone sends cash via Venmo vs carrying around those c19 disease spreaders in their pockets. China I believe is setting themselves up to be the first cashless society. Makes sense. How much money do we spend to make currency and TRY to stop people from forging it? I read an article recently about how a Chinese National was just wrapped up in the states after receiving a pallet of fake one dollar bills. Homie must of been the hero of the strip clubs... I wonder if u get a free make it rain gun w/ a pallet of fake ones? ๐ค
Yep, I do the same, but my bank limits the amount to ยฃ500 per cheque, so I'd be stuck with a sheet of poo paper.
Send out a cheque then lockdown all banks, so nobody can cash them in๐ Hey man, no offense, but I donโt know anybody my age that has cashed a check at a bank in years. We just take a pic and deposit it via our phones. We even give the homeless free cell phones. Even cash, everyone sends cash via Venmo vs carrying around those c19 disease spreaders in their pockets. China I believe is setting themselves up to be the first cashless society. Makes sense. How much money do we spend to make currency and TRY to stop people from forging it? I read an article recently about how a Chinese National was just wrapped up in the states after receiving a pallet of fake one dollar bills. Homie must of been the hero of the strip clubs... I wonder if u get a free make it rain gun w/ a pallet of fake ones? ๐ค Yep, I do the same, but my bank limits the amount to ยฃ500 per cheque, so I'd be stuck with a sheet of poo paper. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 21:59:11 GMT 1, Uk can implement their pre brexit plans for food shortages soon.
That should work smoothly, years of planning already done
Uk can implement their pre brexit plans for food shortages soon.
That should work smoothly, years of planning already done
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 23:11:53 GMT 1, People panic buying food , are mostly shopping on basis when they are at work ,out of the home half of the day , if isolated at home 24hrs a day those food stocks will soon run out quicker than they thought๐๐คฃ
People panic buying food , are mostly shopping on basis when they are at work ,out of the home half of the day , if isolated at home 24hrs a day those food stocks will soon run out quicker than they thought๐๐คฃ
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by LJCal on Mar 17, 2020 23:31:53 GMT 1, Uk can implement their pre brexit plans for food shortages soon. That should work smoothly, years of planning already done
Uk can implement their pre brexit plans for food shortages soon. That should work smoothly, years of planning already done My friend is a civil servant at the department for transport and thatโs essentially what theyโve done. Just dusted off all the no deal plans, funny how things work out. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 23:44:07 GMT 1, Local store has sold out of freezers , some people are taking this to another level
Local store has sold out of freezers , some people are taking this to another level
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by LJCal on Mar 17, 2020 23:47:09 GMT 1, Local store has sold out of freezers , some people are taking this to another level
Local store has sold out of freezers , some people are taking this to another level Where are you based? |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 17, 2020 23:49:53 GMT 1, Uk can implement their pre brexit plans for food shortages soon. That should work smoothly, years of planning already done My friend is a civil servant at the department for transport and thatโs essentially what theyโve done. Just dusted off all the no deal plans, funny how things work out.
this is really going to isolate some groups of people , for example people with hiv will have to isolate now until a vaccine is found , hopefully world governments are working together and sharing all research
Uk can implement their pre brexit plans for food shortages soon. That should work smoothly, years of planning already done My friend is a civil servant at the department for transport and thatโs essentially what theyโve done. Just dusted off all the no deal plans, funny how things work out. Lucky for brexit as they would never had anything in place for this scale...funny how news is reporting possibly months of isolation now , this looks unfortunately really bad this is really going to isolate some groups of people , for example people with hiv will have to isolate now until a vaccine is found , hopefully world governments are working together and sharing all research |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by LJCal on Mar 18, 2020 0:04:03 GMT 1, My friend is a civil servant at the department for transport and thatโs essentially what theyโve done. Just dusted off all the no deal plans, funny how things work out. Lucky for brexit as they would never had anything in place for this scale...funny how news is reporting possibly months of isolation now , this looks unfortunately really bad this is really going to isolate some groups of people , for example people with hiv will have to isolate now until a vaccine is found , hopefully world governments are working together and sharing all research
My friend is a civil servant at the department for transport and thatโs essentially what theyโve done. Just dusted off all the no deal plans, funny how things work out. Lucky for brexit as they would never had anything in place for this scale...funny how news is reporting possibly months of isolation now , this looks unfortunately really bad this is really going to isolate some groups of people , for example people with hiv will have to isolate now until a vaccine is found , hopefully world governments are working together and sharing all research I donโt believe the extent of what is happening now will endure for months as it is unsustainable. Fairly soon governments are going to have to make a call between saving thousands of lives at the cost of millions of livelihoods (which will in turn result in loss of lives but more importantly for them votes) and possible huge civil unrest, the situation in America will be particularly fragile as a huge number of people are armed and civil unrest could be devastating. They are buying time to try and get prepared to massively ramp up medical supplies and capacity. I anticipate 2-4 weeks of wide sweeping measures which will be gradually relaxed. It will however be sometime before all measures are removed. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mw on Mar 18, 2020 0:05:52 GMT 1,
Comes from bats, which are eaten but they also defecate into areas where pigs are kept, which are in turn eaten. [/quote]
Iโve read that bats, snakes, pangolins etc are carriers. But to my knowledge, they still have zero clue where this knew strain came from, c19, nor have they found patient zero. Everything is purely speculation at this point.
Supposedly. But things change by the minute.
Are you saying they found patient zero and traced it back to pigs tainted by bats?
This is the first time Iโve heard this...[/quote]
No evidence that it was bats.
Two previous coronaviruses have been from civet cat to human and camel to human I think. There are lots of coronaviruses in animals, the problem is when it jumps to humans. In this new environmentally friendly world maybe we should be moving away from eating, and thus close proximity, to animals. Trouble is this will takes generations, particularly in China where, ironically, animal parts are used in medicine!
Comes from bats, which are eaten but they also defecate into areas where pigs are kept, which are in turn eaten. [/quote] Iโve read that bats, snakes, pangolins etc are carriers. But to my knowledge, they still have zero clue where this knew strain came from, c19, nor have they found patient zero. Everything is purely speculation at this point. Supposedly. But things change by the minute. Are you saying they found patient zero and traced it back to pigs tainted by bats? This is the first time Iโve heard this...[/quote] No evidence that it was bats. Two previous coronaviruses have been from civet cat to human and camel to human I think. There are lots of coronaviruses in animals, the problem is when it jumps to humans. In this new environmentally friendly world maybe we should be moving away from eating, and thus close proximity, to animals. Trouble is this will takes generations, particularly in China where, ironically, animal parts are used in medicine! |
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