ca
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by ca on Jun 30, 2020 21:19:38 GMT 1, f**king galleries and pseudo art professionals that have no clue how to service or deliver art to their clients. Prints shipped across the world buttnaked in tubes, swingin from one end to the next, who the f**k does that? Shipping a $5k framed painting with regular ground shipping? (after paying asking + 350$ shipping fee) who the f**k does that
sorry had to vent, feel free to use this thread as you see fit
f**king galleries and pseudo art professionals that have no clue how to service or deliver art to their clients. Prints shipped across the world buttnaked in tubes, swingin from one end to the next, who the f**k does that? Shipping a $5k framed painting with regular ground shipping? (after paying asking + 350$ shipping fee) who the f**k does that
sorry had to vent, feel free to use this thread as you see fit
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by sfnyc on Jun 30, 2020 21:34:34 GMT 1, Word. And names are always helpful to beware others...
Word. And names are always helpful to beware others...
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ca
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by ca on Jun 4, 2021 5:46:04 GMT 1, recent one that got me laughing; young emerging artist doing a solo show at some random gallery. Gallery got like 400 followers on instagram, a gmail account for contact, I inquired and they start playing the blue chip card asking me what I do for a living, what is in my collection and how the show is already sold out but they might allocate pieces soon...
lol gtfoh, they've spent too much time listening to artorious
recent one that got me laughing; young emerging artist doing a solo show at some random gallery. Gallery got like 400 followers on instagram, a gmail account for contact, I inquired and they start playing the blue chip card asking me what I do for a living, what is in my collection and how the show is already sold out but they might allocate pieces soon...
lol gtfoh, they've spent too much time listening to artorious
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by Ravnur 2020 on Jun 4, 2021 6:29:48 GMT 1, Agree it is shocking how badly even very reputable and established galleries sometimes send work. I have received smaller prints shipped flat without any rigid packaging at all. Goes without saying they were completely wrecked when they arrived. That said the Ai Weiwei 2020 Bomb print from the Kitchen was the best packaged print I have ever received!
Agree it is shocking how badly even very reputable and established galleries sometimes send work. I have received smaller prints shipped flat without any rigid packaging at all. Goes without saying they were completely wrecked when they arrived. That said the Ai Weiwei 2020 Bomb print from the Kitchen was the best packaged print I have ever received!
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by We Have Your Prints on Jun 4, 2021 14:07:34 GMT 1, I feel your pain, I have had some truly badly packaged art sent to me by artists; creases, fingerprints, marks from fingernails, no protection etc. I have had bad packaging and damaged goods from galleries too, but on balance, artists (some) are worse.
The packaging and shipping is never going to be 100% safe (unless you hand deliver it) as accidents happen, or somebody could decide to drive over your carefully packaged art in a fork lift truck.
It bugs me when thin tubes are used for rolled art, anything less than 3mm thick is not suitable (there are companies that will make 4mm and 5mm thick tubes if you order in quantity).
If I have a higher value item being shipped in a tube I will often split another tube down its length and slide it over (bit of a faff) to create a 6mm thick tube that I can stand on.
Expensive - but worth it - Not had one of these damaged (yet)
I feel your pain, I have had some truly badly packaged art sent to me by artists; creases, fingerprints, marks from fingernails, no protection etc. I have had bad packaging and damaged goods from galleries too, but on balance, artists (some) are worse. The packaging and shipping is never going to be 100% safe (unless you hand deliver it) as accidents happen, or somebody could decide to drive over your carefully packaged art in a fork lift truck. It bugs me when thin tubes are used for rolled art, anything less than 3mm thick is not suitable (there are companies that will make 4mm and 5mm thick tubes if you order in quantity). If I have a higher value item being shipped in a tube I will often split another tube down its length and slide it over (bit of a faff) to create a 6mm thick tube that I can stand on. Expensive - but worth it - Not had one of these damaged (yet)
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by Gunny on Jun 4, 2021 14:09:00 GMT 1, I feel your pain, I have had some truly badly packaged art sent to me by artists; creases, fingerprints, marks from fingernails, no protection etc. I have had bad packaging and damaged goods from galleries too, but on balance, artists (some) are worse. The packaging and shipping is never going to be 100% safe (unless you hand deliver it) as accidents happen, or somebody could decide to drive over your carefully packaged art in a fork lift truck. It bugs me when thin tubes are used for rolled art, anything less than 3mm thick is not suitable (there are companies that will make 4mm and 5mm thick tubes if you order in quantity). If I have a higher value item being shipped in a tube I will often split another tube down its length and slide it over (bit of a faff) to create a 6mm thick tube that I can stand on. Expensive - but worth it - Not had one of these damaged (yet) Great Idea
I feel your pain, I have had some truly badly packaged art sent to me by artists; creases, fingerprints, marks from fingernails, no protection etc. I have had bad packaging and damaged goods from galleries too, but on balance, artists (some) are worse. The packaging and shipping is never going to be 100% safe (unless you hand deliver it) as accidents happen, or somebody could decide to drive over your carefully packaged art in a fork lift truck. It bugs me when thin tubes are used for rolled art, anything less than 3mm thick is not suitable (there are companies that will make 4mm and 5mm thick tubes if you order in quantity). If I have a higher value item being shipped in a tube I will often split another tube down its length and slide it over (bit of a faff) to create a 6mm thick tube that I can stand on. Expensive - but worth it - Not had one of these damaged (yet) Great Idea
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by Lroy on Jun 4, 2021 14:20:11 GMT 1, Agree it is shocking how badly even very reputable and established galleries sometimes send work. I have received smaller prints shipped flat without any rigid packaging at all. Goes without saying they were completely wrecked when they arrived. That said the Ai Weiwei 2020 Bomb print from the Kitchen was the best packaged print I have ever received!
It happened to me, 3 times this year ( no protection, simple envelopes and obviously mini prints, books flyers, stamps (Invader - the package lol ! And I paid 12 euros for that ), they all don’t care. It never happened before !
Agree it is shocking how badly even very reputable and established galleries sometimes send work. I have received smaller prints shipped flat without any rigid packaging at all. Goes without saying they were completely wrecked when they arrived. That said the Ai Weiwei 2020 Bomb print from the Kitchen was the best packaged print I have ever received! It happened to me, 3 times this year ( no protection, simple envelopes and obviously mini prints, books flyers, stamps (Invader - the package lol ! And I paid 12 euros for that ), they all don’t care. It never happened before !
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by Coach on Jun 4, 2021 14:27:17 GMT 1, I’ve now started discussing packing with artists, if buying from them for the first time. Naturally I apologise in advance if I am telling them how to suck eggs. As I buy mostly originals I’m particularly keen to ensure that they don’t wrap a canvas in bubble wrap without first wrapping it in something else suitable. Incredible the amount of good intentioned people that don’t know the damage bubble wrap can cause.
I’ve now started discussing packing with artists, if buying from them for the first time. Naturally I apologise in advance if I am telling them how to suck eggs. As I buy mostly originals I’m particularly keen to ensure that they don’t wrap a canvas in bubble wrap without first wrapping it in something else suitable. Incredible the amount of good intentioned people that don’t know the damage bubble wrap can cause.
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by Coach on Jun 4, 2021 14:31:54 GMT 1, I’ve now started discussing packing with artists, if buying from them for the first time. Naturally I apologise in advance if I am telling them how to suck eggs. As I buy mostly originals I’m particularly keen to ensure that they don’t wrap a canvas in bubble wrap without first wrapping it in something else suitable. Incredible the amount of good intentioned people that don’t know the damage bubble wrap can cause. Can you expand on the bubble wrap statement?
Bubble wrap can (and very often does) leave small circular marks on a painting.
I’ve now started discussing packing with artists, if buying from them for the first time. Naturally I apologise in advance if I am telling them how to suck eggs. As I buy mostly originals I’m particularly keen to ensure that they don’t wrap a canvas in bubble wrap without first wrapping it in something else suitable. Incredible the amount of good intentioned people that don’t know the damage bubble wrap can cause. Can you expand on the bubble wrap statement? Bubble wrap can (and very often does) leave small circular marks on a painting.
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by Coach on Jun 4, 2021 14:34:12 GMT 1, Can you expand on the bubble wrap statement? Bubble wrap can (and very often does) leave small circular marks on a painting.
I’m not suggesting it shouldn’t be used at all. Quite the contrary. I’m saying only that it should not touch the painting directly.
Can you expand on the bubble wrap statement? Bubble wrap can (and very often does) leave small circular marks on a painting. I’m not suggesting it shouldn’t be used at all. Quite the contrary. I’m saying only that it should not touch the painting directly.
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by Ravnur 2020 on Jun 4, 2021 15:00:20 GMT 1, Bubble wrap can (and very often does) leave small circular marks on a painting. I’m not suggesting it shouldn’t be used at all. Quite the contrary. I’m saying only that it should not touch the painting directly. Just out of curiosity/interest what is the best material to wrap as the first layer around a painting? acrylic or oil.
Bubble wrap can (and very often does) leave small circular marks on a painting. I’m not suggesting it shouldn’t be used at all. Quite the contrary. I’m saying only that it should not touch the painting directly. Just out of curiosity/interest what is the best material to wrap as the first layer around a painting? acrylic or oil.
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by chr1s on Jun 4, 2021 15:15:12 GMT 1, I’m not suggesting it shouldn’t be used at all. Quite the contrary. I’m saying only that it should not touch the painting directly. Just out of curiosity/interest what is the best material to wrap as the first layer around a painting? acrylic or oil. Dartek Film
I’m not suggesting it shouldn’t be used at all. Quite the contrary. I’m saying only that it should not touch the painting directly. Just out of curiosity/interest what is the best material to wrap as the first layer around a painting? acrylic or oil. Dartek Film
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by rockbeer on Jun 4, 2021 17:39:08 GMT 1, Bubble wrap has a flat side and a bubbly side - it’s generally okay to use with the flat side against the art, but obviously safer to put a layer of something in between. It’s amazing how many people don’t realise that the two sides aren’t the same.
Bubble wrap has a flat side and a bubbly side - it’s generally okay to use with the flat side against the art, but obviously safer to put a layer of something in between. It’s amazing how many people don’t realise that the two sides aren’t the same.
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by gmidd on Jun 4, 2021 17:51:12 GMT 1, The print that Blok released a few weeks back came in a tube with no paper at all. Was shocked honestly and surprised that there was only very minimal damage to one corner. Packing prints correctly is not rocket science so I have no patience for people who don't know what the hell they're doing.
The print that Blok released a few weeks back came in a tube with no paper at all. Was shocked honestly and surprised that there was only very minimal damage to one corner. Packing prints correctly is not rocket science so I have no patience for people who don't know what the hell they're doing.
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by Villain Dillon on Jun 4, 2021 18:04:51 GMT 1, I’m not suggesting it shouldn’t be used at all. Quite the contrary. I’m saying only that it should not touch the painting directly. Just out of curiosity/interest what is the best material to wrap as the first layer around a painting? acrylic or oil. Like chr1s said, Dartek is great to use when first wrapping a flat work. However, if a painting has any texture at all, a shadow box, collar, or t-frame should be used so as nothing touches the painting's surface. I also agree about not putting bubble wrap directly on a painting.
I’m not suggesting it shouldn’t be used at all. Quite the contrary. I’m saying only that it should not touch the painting directly. Just out of curiosity/interest what is the best material to wrap as the first layer around a painting? acrylic or oil. Like chr1s said, Dartek is great to use when first wrapping a flat work. However, if a painting has any texture at all, a shadow box, collar, or t-frame should be used so as nothing touches the painting's surface. I also agree about not putting bubble wrap directly on a painting.
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by sidtrix on Jun 4, 2021 20:44:34 GMT 1, Received a AP mini print today in an envelope that had a do not bend please sticker, no decent protection in the envelope itself.... make a guess if it got bent?
Was not expensive but why, just why!
Received a AP mini print today in an envelope that had a do not bend please sticker, no decent protection in the envelope itself.... make a guess if it got bent? Was not expensive but why, just why!
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by Acme Thunderer on Jun 4, 2021 21:06:22 GMT 1, I’ve started requesting that tubes are put inside a box as well after I got this one delivered on an overnight international courier last month (the damage ripped through the middle of the print inside). Got a replacement but simple measures can reduce valuable items getting damaged.
I’ve started requesting that tubes are put inside a box as well after I got this one delivered on an overnight international courier last month (the damage ripped through the middle of the print inside). Got a replacement but simple measures can reduce valuable items getting damaged.
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Jun 5, 2021 1:37:51 GMT 1, I’ve started requesting that tubes are put inside a box as well after I got this one delivered on an overnight international courier last month (the damage ripped through the middle of the print inside). Got a replacement but simple measures can reduce valuable items getting damaged.
Yes boxes are great give the extra protection 👍. Strongest and biggest tube award has to go to Elms for their parla prints years ago.
I’ve started requesting that tubes are put inside a box as well after I got this one delivered on an overnight international courier last month (the damage ripped through the middle of the print inside). Got a replacement but simple measures can reduce valuable items getting damaged. Yes boxes are great give the extra protection 👍. Strongest and biggest tube award has to go to Elms for their parla prints years ago.
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by Charlie Bronson on Jun 5, 2021 14:58:23 GMT 1, About a year ago, I bought a watercolor on paper done by a well known artist, from a well known European gallery. The geniuses at the gallery sent it in an envelope, with no cardboard or backing of any sort to support it; a simple, flimsy, yellow envelope. Naturally it arrived completely destroyed.
I reached out to the gallery, and they said they’d fix the issue. Flash forward six months, and no resolve, simply procrastination, so I took it upon myself to reach out directly to the artist via Instagram, and explained the situation. The artist wasn’t pleased, and within two weeks sent me a canvas to replace the damaged watercolor paper piece.
The gallery had the audacity to reach out to me and say in the future they’d appreciate it if I didn’t reach out to artists to discuss transactions. I promptly replied that there was no future in store for the two of us.
That type of stupidity by art “pros” not only grinds my gears, but also chaps my hide, burns my biscuits, steams my clams, gets my goat and ruffles my feathers.
About a year ago, I bought a watercolor on paper done by a well known artist, from a well known European gallery. The geniuses at the gallery sent it in an envelope, with no cardboard or backing of any sort to support it; a simple, flimsy, yellow envelope. Naturally it arrived completely destroyed.
I reached out to the gallery, and they said they’d fix the issue. Flash forward six months, and no resolve, simply procrastination, so I took it upon myself to reach out directly to the artist via Instagram, and explained the situation. The artist wasn’t pleased, and within two weeks sent me a canvas to replace the damaged watercolor paper piece.
The gallery had the audacity to reach out to me and say in the future they’d appreciate it if I didn’t reach out to artists to discuss transactions. I promptly replied that there was no future in store for the two of us.
That type of stupidity by art “pros” not only grinds my gears, but also chaps my hide, burns my biscuits, steams my clams, gets my goat and ruffles my feathers.
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by mark1 on Jun 5, 2021 15:08:44 GMT 1, Sounds like a bunch of money grabbing chancers, did the right thing and guess the artist gave them a rollicking which was deserved.
Sounds like a bunch of money grabbing chancers, did the right thing and guess the artist gave them a rollicking which was deserved.
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by startimeash on Jun 5, 2021 15:13:04 GMT 1, I don’t understand why it is so difficult to do? I ordered an antenna from the US, only about $100, and it came bubble wrapped in a tube, inside bubble wrap in a box. Honestly floored me how well it was wrapped. And that’s something you’d need to give a real whack to damage. If they can do it, it’s just laziness for galleries not to do the same.
I don’t understand why it is so difficult to do? I ordered an antenna from the US, only about $100, and it came bubble wrapped in a tube, inside bubble wrap in a box. Honestly floored me how well it was wrapped. And that’s something you’d need to give a real whack to damage. If they can do it, it’s just laziness for galleries not to do the same.
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You know what really grinds my gears?, by Ildefonso 77 on Jun 5, 2021 15:55:50 GMT 1, Havent had any bad luck yet im an OC person and the tiniest Smudge or crease bothers me to hell. Damaged package would Be hell.
I once ordered a oil on canvas painting and had the artist Ship In a tube. Artist and i spoke about packaging. The way it was packed Was better than i could have imagined.
The canvas was rolled image first around a cardboard tube. There was some special paper to protect the surface of the painting. Because it was rolled on a tube there was no way it would get damaged. The tube was then placed in those triangular Long boxes.
Was shipped to me And me and my Framer were surprised at the level of packaging. Artist did such a good Job. At the end of the day it really boils down to responsibility and respect for the artwork your sending.
Damn those lazy galleries.
Havent had any bad luck yet im an OC person and the tiniest Smudge or crease bothers me to hell. Damaged package would Be hell.
I once ordered a oil on canvas painting and had the artist Ship In a tube. Artist and i spoke about packaging. The way it was packed Was better than i could have imagined.
The canvas was rolled image first around a cardboard tube. There was some special paper to protect the surface of the painting. Because it was rolled on a tube there was no way it would get damaged. The tube was then placed in those triangular Long boxes.
Was shipped to me And me and my Framer were surprised at the level of packaging. Artist did such a good Job. At the end of the day it really boils down to responsibility and respect for the artwork your sending.
Damn those lazy galleries.
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