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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by Winter on Aug 24, 2020 10:44:07 GMT 1, I think that last canvas was bigger than some of the previous ones. I could be wrong but was it 16x13cm? His team need to stop and think about their selling strategy, itβs bizarre to say the least.
I think that last canvas was bigger than some of the previous ones. I could be wrong but was it 16x13cm? His team need to stop and think about their selling strategy, itβs bizarre to say the least.
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 10:52:07 GMT 1, The base is wrong. One should think about increasing prices only every quarter, when the market demands a lot. An artist lives from collectors not from Flippers. It looks more like an english artist management system, I would say there is an English manager behind it, names don't matter now, it is an ALL IN game, all or nothing.He makes a good job for the moment. I hope for all collectors for a happy end.
The base is wrong. One should think about increasing prices only every quarter, when the market demands a lot. An artist lives from collectors not from Flippers. It looks more like an english artist management system, I would say there is an English manager behind it, names don't matter now, it is an ALL IN game, all or nothing.He makes a good job for the moment. I hope for all collectors for a happy end.
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by nex on Aug 24, 2020 10:52:30 GMT 1, I really do get the sense this is going to go horribly wrong shortly
I really do get the sense this is going to go horribly wrong shortly
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by bagpuss on Aug 24, 2020 10:57:08 GMT 1, I really do get the sense this is going to go horribly wrong shortly Possibly or possibly not. Anyone interested in purchasing my pair of min canvases? PM me for details
I really do get the sense this is going to go horribly wrong shortly Possibly or possibly not. Anyone interested in purchasing my pair of min canvases? PM me for details
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 10:58:29 GMT 1, i have a commissioned canvas with Thierry. i was confirmed and i paid for this commission 2 month ago ( just before all the hype ). hope it won't change his mind and refund my payment!
He is a good boy. 100% not change his mind.
i have a commissioned canvas with Thierry. i was confirmed and i paid for this commission 2 month ago ( just before all the hype ). hope it won't change his mind and refund my payment! He is a good boy. 100% not change his mind.
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by JW on Aug 24, 2020 11:01:10 GMT 1, I think that last canvas was bigger than some of the previous ones. I could be wrong but was it 16x13cm? His team need to stop and think about their selling strategy, itβs bizarre to say the least. Nah, same size.
16cm wide by 13cm high by 3cm deep (framed size)
7cm wide by 10cm high by 1cm deep (unframed size)
I think that last canvas was bigger than some of the previous ones. I could be wrong but was it 16x13cm? His team need to stop and think about their selling strategy, itβs bizarre to say the least. Nah, same size. 16cm wide by 13cm high by 3cm deep (framed size) 7cm wide by 10cm high by 1cm deep (unframed size)
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by The Italian One on Aug 24, 2020 11:01:17 GMT 1, i have a commissioned canvas with Thierry. i was confirmed and i paid for this commission 2 month ago ( just before all the hype ). hope it won't change his mind and refund my payment! He is a good boy. 100% not change his mind. yes that what he looks like from the talk we had...
i have a commissioned canvas with Thierry. i was confirmed and i paid for this commission 2 month ago ( just before all the hype ). hope it won't change his mind and refund my payment! He is a good boy. 100% not change his mind. yes that what he looks like from the talk we had...
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by Pawel on Aug 24, 2020 11:07:09 GMT 1, I think that last canvas was bigger than some of the previous ones. I could be wrong but was it 16x13cm? His team need to stop and think about their selling strategy, itβs bizarre to say the least.
Nope, all the same: 16cm wide by 13cm high by 3cm deep (framed size) 7cm wide by 10cm high by 1cm deep (unframed size)
I think that last canvas was bigger than some of the previous ones. I could be wrong but was it 16x13cm? His team need to stop and think about their selling strategy, itβs bizarre to say the least. Nope, all the same: 16cm wide by 13cm high by 3cm deep (framed size) 7cm wide by 10cm high by 1cm deep (unframed size)
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by Matt on Aug 24, 2020 11:08:00 GMT 1, I really do get the sense this is going to go horribly wrong shortly
Heβs been around for long so I think he is just going to ride this wave while it lasts, and happily go back to normal when it ends
A lot of hyped artists / one hit wonders had no/ little history when they were propelled by the forum, which is not Thierryβs case
I really do get the sense this is going to go horribly wrong shortly Heβs been around for long so I think he is just going to ride this wave while it lasts, and happily go back to normal when it ends A lot of hyped artists / one hit wonders had no/ little history when they were propelled by the forum, which is not Thierryβs case
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by nex on Aug 24, 2020 11:09:57 GMT 1, I really do get the sense this is going to go horribly wrong shortly Heβs been around for long so I think he is just going to ride this wave while it lasts, and happily go back to normal when it ends A lot of hyped artists / one hit wonders had no/ little history when they were propelled by the forum, which is not Thierryβs case I'm very well aware of Thierry's history, politely I would suggest this has little to nothing to do with the current selling or buying behaviour.
I really do get the sense this is going to go horribly wrong shortly Heβs been around for long so I think he is just going to ride this wave while it lasts, and happily go back to normal when it ends A lot of hyped artists / one hit wonders had no/ little history when they were propelled by the forum, which is not Thierryβs case I'm very well aware of Thierry's history, politely I would suggest this has little to nothing to do with the current selling or buying behaviour.
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 11:21:36 GMT 1, Yeah, it does seem a bit mercenary, but whatβs the alternative? Keep selling for GBP100 and let the flippers have a field day? If people are happy to pay GBP1k for a mini canvas then I think heβs entitled to charge it. I mean theyβve been available for decades for next to nothing, so plenty of time for the fans to buy. Oh yeah, it's very entertaining. I haven't followed a thread this closely since GDP. Probably less entertaining if you were planning to buy just before the madness, or if you're a new fan. He's entitled, absolutely. It just seems like it could be better thought out. A pause in selling to come up with a sensible strategy would seem wise. At the moment, the constant increase suggests concern that it won't last, so making hay while the sun shines.
This doesn't look very friendly to collectors (I'm not in that group, so this isn't self-interest). If you've been supporting him a while, suddenly your next piece costs 20 times what you paid last time. Or he offers better prices to established buyers, but that puts off new collectors who wonder why they're paying through the nose.
Of course every artist who quickly grows in popularity increases their prices and will price out some established fans, but they tend not to pump out work very quickly to maximise sales. Usually they do the opposite. They work out their next steps and create demand by limiting supply. If it's correct that he has lots of shows coming up, why not hold off and sell through those? You can charge what you like and control who you sell to. You can release a print edition to make something accessible to those who can no longer afford your originals.
The current strategy seems...grubby. For all the money he's making at the moment, the methods look a bit cheap.
(Caveat that I am no expert and have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about)
Yeah, it does seem a bit mercenary, but whatβs the alternative? Keep selling for GBP100 and let the flippers have a field day? If people are happy to pay GBP1k for a mini canvas then I think heβs entitled to charge it. I mean theyβve been available for decades for next to nothing, so plenty of time for the fans to buy. Oh yeah, it's very entertaining. I haven't followed a thread this closely since GDP. Probably less entertaining if you were planning to buy just before the madness, or if you're a new fan. He's entitled, absolutely. It just seems like it could be better thought out. A pause in selling to come up with a sensible strategy would seem wise. At the moment, the constant increase suggests concern that it won't last, so making hay while the sun shines. This doesn't look very friendly to collectors (I'm not in that group, so this isn't self-interest). If you've been supporting him a while, suddenly your next piece costs 20 times what you paid last time. Or he offers better prices to established buyers, but that puts off new collectors who wonder why they're paying through the nose. Of course every artist who quickly grows in popularity increases their prices and will price out some established fans, but they tend not to pump out work very quickly to maximise sales. Usually they do the opposite. They work out their next steps and create demand by limiting supply. If it's correct that he has lots of shows coming up, why not hold off and sell through those? You can charge what you like and control who you sell to. You can release a print edition to make something accessible to those who can no longer afford your originals. The current strategy seems...grubby. For all the money he's making at the moment, the methods look a bit cheap. (Caveat that I am no expert and have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about)
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by 18921892 on Aug 24, 2020 11:35:26 GMT 1, Yeah, it does seem a bit mercenary, but whatβs the alternative? Keep selling for GBP100 and let the flippers have a field day? If people are happy to pay GBP1k for a mini canvas then I think heβs entitled to charge it. I mean theyβve been available for decades for next to nothing, so plenty of time for the fans to buy. He's entitled, absolutely. It just seems like it could be better thought out. A pause in selling to come up with a sensible strategy would seem wise. At the moment, the constant increase suggests concern that it won't last, so making hay while the sun shines. This doesn't look very friendly to collectors (I'm not in that group, so this isn't self-interest). If you've been supporting him a while, suddenly your next piece costs 20 times what you paid last time. Or he offers better prices to established buyers, but that puts off new collectors who wonder why they're paying through the nose. Of course every artist who quickly grows in popularity increases their prices and will price out some established fans, but they tend not to pump out work very quickly to maximise sales. Usually they do the opposite. They work out their next steps and create demand by limiting supply. If it's correct that he has lots of shows coming up, why not hold off and sell through those? You can charge what you like and control who you sell to. You can release a print edition to make something accessible to those who can no longer afford your originals. The current strategy seems...grubby. For all the money he's making at the moment, the methods look a bit cheap. (Caveat that I am no expert and have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about) To be fair, he is throwing up one piece a day for sale. He isn't exactly flooding the market, thats why they are getting snapped up. If he wanted he could throw up 10 slightly larger head canvases a day for Β£2500 and I bet he would sell them.
Yeah, it does seem a bit mercenary, but whatβs the alternative? Keep selling for GBP100 and let the flippers have a field day? If people are happy to pay GBP1k for a mini canvas then I think heβs entitled to charge it. I mean theyβve been available for decades for next to nothing, so plenty of time for the fans to buy. He's entitled, absolutely. It just seems like it could be better thought out. A pause in selling to come up with a sensible strategy would seem wise. At the moment, the constant increase suggests concern that it won't last, so making hay while the sun shines. This doesn't look very friendly to collectors (I'm not in that group, so this isn't self-interest). If you've been supporting him a while, suddenly your next piece costs 20 times what you paid last time. Or he offers better prices to established buyers, but that puts off new collectors who wonder why they're paying through the nose. Of course every artist who quickly grows in popularity increases their prices and will price out some established fans, but they tend not to pump out work very quickly to maximise sales. Usually they do the opposite. They work out their next steps and create demand by limiting supply. If it's correct that he has lots of shows coming up, why not hold off and sell through those? You can charge what you like and control who you sell to. You can release a print edition to make something accessible to those who can no longer afford your originals. The current strategy seems...grubby. For all the money he's making at the moment, the methods look a bit cheap. (Caveat that I am no expert and have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about) To be fair, he is throwing up one piece a day for sale. He isn't exactly flooding the market, thats why they are getting snapped up. If he wanted he could throw up 10 slightly larger head canvases a day for Β£2500 and I bet he would sell them.
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 11:48:25 GMT 1, He's entitled, absolutely. It just seems like it could be better thought out. A pause in selling to come up with a sensible strategy would seem wise. At the moment, the constant increase suggests concern that it won't last, so making hay while the sun shines. This doesn't look very friendly to collectors (I'm not in that group, so this isn't self-interest). If you've been supporting him a while, suddenly your next piece costs 20 times what you paid last time. Or he offers better prices to established buyers, but that puts off new collectors who wonder why they're paying through the nose. Of course every artist who quickly grows in popularity increases their prices and will price out some established fans, but they tend not to pump out work very quickly to maximise sales. Usually they do the opposite. They work out their next steps and create demand by limiting supply. If it's correct that he has lots of shows coming up, why not hold off and sell through those? You can charge what you like and control who you sell to. You can release a print edition to make something accessible to those who can no longer afford your originals. The current strategy seems...grubby. For all the money he's making at the moment, the methods look a bit cheap. (Caveat that I am no expert and have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about) To be fair, he is throwing up one piece a day for sale. He isn't exactly flooding the market, thats why they are getting snapped up. If he wanted he could throw up 10 slightly larger head canvases a day for Β£2500 and I bet he would sell them. A fair point. Actually, selling larger canvases at substantial prices, rather than doing a few of the little novelties per day, would seem smarter. People would be paying a lot more than his old prices, but they'd be getting a proper piece, not something that's one above a fancy postcard.
He's entitled, absolutely. It just seems like it could be better thought out. A pause in selling to come up with a sensible strategy would seem wise. At the moment, the constant increase suggests concern that it won't last, so making hay while the sun shines. This doesn't look very friendly to collectors (I'm not in that group, so this isn't self-interest). If you've been supporting him a while, suddenly your next piece costs 20 times what you paid last time. Or he offers better prices to established buyers, but that puts off new collectors who wonder why they're paying through the nose. Of course every artist who quickly grows in popularity increases their prices and will price out some established fans, but they tend not to pump out work very quickly to maximise sales. Usually they do the opposite. They work out their next steps and create demand by limiting supply. If it's correct that he has lots of shows coming up, why not hold off and sell through those? You can charge what you like and control who you sell to. You can release a print edition to make something accessible to those who can no longer afford your originals. The current strategy seems...grubby. For all the money he's making at the moment, the methods look a bit cheap. (Caveat that I am no expert and have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about) To be fair, he is throwing up one piece a day for sale. He isn't exactly flooding the market, thats why they are getting snapped up. If he wanted he could throw up 10 slightly larger head canvases a day for Β£2500 and I bet he would sell them. A fair point. Actually, selling larger canvases at substantial prices, rather than doing a few of the little novelties per day, would seem smarter. People would be paying a lot more than his old prices, but they'd be getting a proper piece, not something that's one above a fancy postcard.
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by kfroms on Aug 24, 2020 11:50:24 GMT 1, The 24x30cm canvas which βsoldβ yesterday evening for 3,050gbp on ebay is now up for sale again....
The 24x30cm canvas which βsoldβ yesterday evening for 3,050gbp on ebay is now up for sale again....
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by popgoestheart on Aug 24, 2020 12:19:03 GMT 1, The 24x30cm canvas which βsoldβ yesterday evening for 3,050gbp on ebay is now up for sale again....
The 24x30cm canvas which βsoldβ yesterday evening for 3,050gbp on ebay is now up for sale again....
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by tab1 on Aug 24, 2020 12:27:23 GMT 1, He's entitled, absolutely. It just seems like it could be better thought out. A pause in selling to come up with a sensible strategy would seem wise. At the moment, the constant increase suggests concern that it won't last, so making hay while the sun shines.Β This doesn't look very friendly to collectors (I'm not in that group, so this isn't self-interest). If you've been supporting him a while, suddenly your next piece costs 20 times what you paid last time. Or he offers better prices to established buyers, but that puts off new collectors who wonder why they're paying through the nose. Of course every artist who quickly grows in popularity increases their prices and will price out some established fans, but they tend not to pump out work very quickly to maximise sales. Usually they do the opposite. They work out their next steps and create demand by limiting supply. If it's correct that he has lots of shows coming up, why not hold off and sell through those? You can charge what you like and control who you sell to. You can release a print edition to make something accessible to those who can no longer afford your originals. The current strategy seems...grubby. For all the money he's making at the moment, the methods look a bit cheap.Β (Caveat that I am no expert and have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about) To be fair, he is throwing up one piece a day for sale. He isn't exactly flooding the market, thats why they are getting snapped up. If he wanted he could throw up 10 slightly larger head canvases a day for Β£2500 and I bet he would sell them.
Β£200 increase each time ?
He's entitled, absolutely. It just seems like it could be better thought out. A pause in selling to come up with a sensible strategy would seem wise. At the moment, the constant increase suggests concern that it won't last, so making hay while the sun shines.Β This doesn't look very friendly to collectors (I'm not in that group, so this isn't self-interest). If you've been supporting him a while, suddenly your next piece costs 20 times what you paid last time. Or he offers better prices to established buyers, but that puts off new collectors who wonder why they're paying through the nose. Of course every artist who quickly grows in popularity increases their prices and will price out some established fans, but they tend not to pump out work very quickly to maximise sales. Usually they do the opposite. They work out their next steps and create demand by limiting supply. If it's correct that he has lots of shows coming up, why not hold off and sell through those? You can charge what you like and control who you sell to. You can release a print edition to make something accessible to those who can no longer afford your originals. The current strategy seems...grubby. For all the money he's making at the moment, the methods look a bit cheap.Β (Caveat that I am no expert and have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about) To be fair, he is throwing up one piece a day for sale. He isn't exactly flooding the market, thats why they are getting snapped up. If he wanted he could throw up 10 slightly larger head canvases a day for Β£2500 and I bet he would sell them. Β£200 increase each time ?
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by DameHoracia on Aug 24, 2020 12:50:26 GMT 1, I think that last canvas was bigger than some of the previous ones. I could be wrong but was it 16x13cm? His team need to stop and think about their selling strategy, itβs bizarre to say the least. Nope, all the same: 16cm wide by 13cm high by 3cm deep (framed size) 7cm wide by 10cm high by 1cm deep (unframed size) At future exhibitions they'll be "Large Single Head Canvas are available as pre-sales out of these shows in the size of 120cm by 150cm.
The pricing on these is currently Β£10k although this is currently under review and slated to increase."
An average collector like myself is certainly pushed out at that price. I guess that's the art game.
I think that last canvas was bigger than some of the previous ones. I could be wrong but was it 16x13cm? His team need to stop and think about their selling strategy, itβs bizarre to say the least. Nope, all the same: 16cm wide by 13cm high by 3cm deep (framed size) 7cm wide by 10cm high by 1cm deep (unframed size) At future exhibitions they'll be "Large Single Head Canvas are available as pre-sales out of these shows in the size of 120cm by 150cm. The pricing on these is currently Β£10k although this is currently under review and slated to increase." An average collector like myself is certainly pushed out at that price. I guess that's the art game.
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by lv90210 on Aug 24, 2020 13:07:25 GMT 1, He's increasing the price again (Β£1,040). For someone famed as a good guy, the constant inflation is looking a bit greedy and tacky.
I like it - long may it continue.
He's increasing the price again (Β£1,040). For someone famed as a good guy, the constant inflation is looking a bit greedy and tacky. I like it - long may it continue.
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by Winter on Aug 24, 2020 13:11:42 GMT 1, Nope, all the same: 16cm wide by 13cm high by 3cm deep (framed size) 7cm wide by 10cm high by 1cm deep (unframed size) At future exhibitions they'll be "Large Single Head Canvas are available as pre-sales out of these shows in the size of 120cm by 150cm. The pricing on these is currently Β£10k although this is currently under review and slated to increase." An average collector like myself is certainly pushed out at that price. I guess that's the art game. Some saying he's not doing commissions but this sounds like he is.
Nope, all the same: 16cm wide by 13cm high by 3cm deep (framed size) 7cm wide by 10cm high by 1cm deep (unframed size) At future exhibitions they'll be "Large Single Head Canvas are available as pre-sales out of these shows in the size of 120cm by 150cm. The pricing on these is currently Β£10k although this is currently under review and slated to increase." An average collector like myself is certainly pushed out at that price. I guess that's the art game. Some saying he's not doing commissions but this sounds like he is.
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by Jaylove on Aug 24, 2020 13:43:25 GMT 1, The art world is a business. If people can flip then let the artist get as money as thry can get. I blame flippers, not the artist. All those sneaker hype beasts grew up and started getting into art. I was a big sneaker collector back in the early 2000s. The game is following the exact same path. Flippers completely skewing valuations. Just donβt get caught holding the bad. How many people are stuck with pieces from other artists that arenβt even worth half of what thry paid?
The art world is a business. If people can flip then let the artist get as money as thry can get. I blame flippers, not the artist. All those sneaker hype beasts grew up and started getting into art. I was a big sneaker collector back in the early 2000s. The game is following the exact same path. Flippers completely skewing valuations. Just donβt get caught holding the bad. How many people are stuck with pieces from other artists that arenβt even worth half of what thry paid?
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by sierrahotel on Aug 24, 2020 13:46:30 GMT 1, Sold, and paid for. For the avoidance of doubt, no gazumping occurred here :-) I threw a price out there, and immediately got lots of enquiries and offers. At no point did I accept an offer and renege. I did increase my asking price based on demand.
Many thanks to all who made firm bids and facilitated this informal βauctionβ. I was out of the loop on prices.
Sold, and paid for. For the avoidance of doubt, no gazumping occurred here :-) I threw a price out there, and immediately got lots of enquiries and offers. At no point did I accept an offer and renege. I did increase my asking price based on demand.
Many thanks to all who made firm bids and facilitated this informal βauctionβ. I was out of the loop on prices.
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 13:51:42 GMT 1, Sold, and paid for. For the avoidance of doubt, no gazumping occurred here :-) I threw a price out there, and immediately got lots of enquiries and offers. At no point did I accept an offer and renege. I did increase my asking price based on demand. Many thanks to all who made firm bids and facilitated this informal βauctionβ. I was out of the loop on prices. I mean, you replied to an "in search of" thread stating you had a piece for sale and the price you wanted. Fair of the original poster to think you were offering to him. A for sale thread of your own would be the usual way to invite offers.
Sold, and paid for. For the avoidance of doubt, no gazumping occurred here :-) I threw a price out there, and immediately got lots of enquiries and offers. At no point did I accept an offer and renege. I did increase my asking price based on demand. Many thanks to all who made firm bids and facilitated this informal βauctionβ. I was out of the loop on prices. I mean, you replied to an "in search of" thread stating you had a piece for sale and the price you wanted. Fair of the original poster to think you were offering to him. A for sale thread of your own would be the usual way to invite offers.
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by the only texas pete on Aug 24, 2020 13:56:12 GMT 1, Sold, and paid for. For the avoidance of doubt, no gazumping occurred here :-) I threw a price out there, and immediately got lots of enquiries and offers. At no point did I accept an offer and renege. I did increase my asking price based on demand. Many thanks to all who made firm bids and facilitated this informal βauctionβ. I was out of the loop on prices. I mean, you replied to an "in search of" thread stating you had a piece for sale and the price you wanted. Fair of the original poster to think you were offering to him. A for sale thread of your own would be the usual way to invite offers.Β
Is all good, we got there in the end, hopefully at a fair market price for both of us. Very happy with the piece coming π Thank you Alexei
Sold, and paid for. For the avoidance of doubt, no gazumping occurred here :-) I threw a price out there, and immediately got lots of enquiries and offers. At no point did I accept an offer and renege. I did increase my asking price based on demand. Many thanks to all who made firm bids and facilitated this informal βauctionβ. I was out of the loop on prices. I mean, you replied to an "in search of" thread stating you had a piece for sale and the price you wanted. Fair of the original poster to think you were offering to him. A for sale thread of your own would be the usual way to invite offers.Β Is all good, we got there in the end, hopefully at a fair market price for both of us. Very happy with the piece coming π Thank you Alexei
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by bagpuss on Aug 24, 2020 14:07:21 GMT 1, I have two framed mini canvases from 2016. PM if interested
I have two framed mini canvases from 2016. PM if interested
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by DameHoracia on Aug 24, 2020 14:12:10 GMT 1, At future exhibitions they'll be "Large Single Head Canvas are available as pre-sales out of these shows in the size of 120cm by 150cm. The pricing on these is currently Β£10k although this is currently under review and slated to increase." An average collector like myself is certainly pushed out at that price. I guess that's the art game. Some saying he's not doing commissions but this sounds like he is. He says he's not, this is supposedly about pre sales. He will probably show at the up and coming exhibitions, then ship the art afterwards. Could that be why he's unsure about the price staying at 10K? Who knows. What a game. I'm still happy to just buy what I like the look of and want to live with. But I won't be forking out 10k for a canvas.
At future exhibitions they'll be "Large Single Head Canvas are available as pre-sales out of these shows in the size of 120cm by 150cm. The pricing on these is currently Β£10k although this is currently under review and slated to increase." An average collector like myself is certainly pushed out at that price. I guess that's the art game. Some saying he's not doing commissions but this sounds like he is. He says he's not, this is supposedly about pre sales. He will probably show at the up and coming exhibitions, then ship the art afterwards. Could that be why he's unsure about the price staying at 10K? Who knows. What a game. I'm still happy to just buy what I like the look of and want to live with. But I won't be forking out 10k for a canvas.
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by nobokov on Aug 24, 2020 14:38:30 GMT 1, How do we even know the minis he's jacking up daily are even real sales? Can't he just change the inventory to 0 a few minutes after listing it and it appears sold out, when it really isn't?
How do we even know the minis he's jacking up daily are even real sales? Can't he just change the inventory to 0 a few minutes after listing it and it appears sold out, when it really isn't?
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by nobokov on Aug 24, 2020 14:45:20 GMT 1, How do we even know the minis he's jacking up daily are even real sales? Can't he just change the inventory to 0 a few minutes after listing it and it appears sold out, when it really isn't? people on here have managed to get a couple of them boy, i feel for them....
How do we even know the minis he's jacking up daily are even real sales? Can't he just change the inventory to 0 a few minutes after listing it and it appears sold out, when it really isn't? people on here have managed to get a couple of them boy, i feel for them....
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by Retired Collector on Aug 24, 2020 15:00:18 GMT 1, Cool, wall, who is the zig zag guy? i see his art in SE London, didnt know he sold stuff too Thatβs Nathan Bowen: nathanbowenartshop.com/
Brilliant thanks. Always regretted not stealing one of these when they were covering building hoardings in east London. Purchased one now. If someone could hype this guy so the prices increase 10 fold, that would be great. Not so i could flip, just so I feel like I make good investments.
Cool, wall, who is the zig zag guy? i see his art in SE London, didnt know he sold stuff too Thatβs Nathan Bowen: nathanbowenartshop.com/Brilliant thanks. Always regretted not stealing one of these when they were covering building hoardings in east London. Purchased one now. If someone could hype this guy so the prices increase 10 fold, that would be great. Not so i could flip, just so I feel like I make good investments.
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Thierry Noir π¨π΅ Berlin Wall β’ French Street Arist , by Chris JL on Aug 24, 2020 15:21:16 GMT 1, Some random look at google search trend data make the sudden interest in TN a bit puzzling:
Since if one goes and check the same for eg Banksy, Ai Weiwei etc or even a Martin Whatson a clear run up in searches can been seen at the time their market values started booming.
Furthermore, by the same metric, there isnβt any visible boom in interest from the Asian market in the last 90 days (nor last 12 months):
Maybe the dominant search engine in Asia is not Google? π€
Some random look at google search trend data make the sudden interest in TN a bit puzzling: Since if one goes and check the same for eg Banksy, Ai Weiwei etc or even a Martin Whatson a clear run up in searches can been seen at the time their market values started booming. Furthermore, by the same metric, there isnβt any visible boom in interest from the Asian market in the last 90 days (nor last 12 months): Maybe the dominant search engine in Asia is not Google? π€
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