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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by schneider on Aug 8, 2023 17:09:12 GMT 1, Hello,
do You have interest for Thierry Noir from 2009 Acrylic on Canvas-Board Size 24 cm x 30 cm Signed Noir & back signed & dated
Please let me know your price idea.
Hello, do You have interest for Thierry Noir from 2009 Acrylic on Canvas-Board Size 24 cm x 30 cm Signed Noir & back signed & dated Please let me know your price idea.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by drip on Aug 9, 2023 0:52:51 GMT 1, Thierry Noir Canvas for sale. Please pm for price. Priced to sell and taking into consideration the current market conditions. Canvas measures 61cm and with frame 62.5cm Entitled "Meeting at the Pizza East" The framed canvas has a slight bow but is not noticeable when hung. It could be re-stretched out but the last owner had it beautifully framed so I certainly did not want to go down that path. That might be the nicest Noir I've ever seen.
Thierry Noir Canvas for sale. Please pm for price. Priced to sell and taking into consideration the current market conditions. Canvas measures 61cm and with frame 62.5cm Entitled "Meeting at the Pizza East" The framed canvas has a slight bow but is not noticeable when hung. It could be re-stretched out but the last owner had it beautifully framed so I certainly did not want to go down that path. That might be the nicest Noir I've ever seen.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Harveyn on Aug 9, 2023 13:22:16 GMT 1, Thierry Noir Canvas for sale. Please pm for price. Priced to sell and taking into consideration the current market conditions. Canvas measures 61cm and with frame 62.5cm Entitled "Meeting at the Pizza East" The framed canvas has a slight bow but is not noticeable when hung. It could be re-stretched out but the last owner had it beautifully framed so I certainly did not want to go down that path. That might be the nicest Noir I've ever seen. Thank you. I have adjusted the price considerably to reflect the current market.
Also happy to work 3-6 month payment plan.
Thierry Noir Canvas for sale. Please pm for price. Priced to sell and taking into consideration the current market conditions. Canvas measures 61cm and with frame 62.5cm Entitled "Meeting at the Pizza East" The framed canvas has a slight bow but is not noticeable when hung. It could be re-stretched out but the last owner had it beautifully framed so I certainly did not want to go down that path. That might be the nicest Noir I've ever seen. Thank you. I have adjusted the price considerably to reflect the current market. Also happy to work 3-6 month payment plan.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by zoomrider on Aug 9, 2023 14:01:46 GMT 1, Thierry Noir Canvas for sale. Please pm for price. Priced to sell and taking into consideration the current market conditions. Canvas measures 61cm and with frame 62.5cm Entitled "Meeting at the Pizza East" The framed canvas has a slight bow but is not noticeable when hung. It could be re-stretched out but the last owner had it beautifully framed so I certainly did not want to go down that path. Stunning! Sadly out of my price range I suspect. GLWTS 🤩
Thierry Noir Canvas for sale. Please pm for price. Priced to sell and taking into consideration the current market conditions. Canvas measures 61cm and with frame 62.5cm Entitled "Meeting at the Pizza East" The framed canvas has a slight bow but is not noticeable when hung. It could be re-stretched out but the last owner had it beautifully framed so I certainly did not want to go down that path. Stunning! Sadly out of my price range I suspect. GLWTS 🤩
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Harveyn on Aug 10, 2023 11:07:44 GMT 1, SOLD - Pending payment.
SOLD - Pending payment.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Deleted on Aug 14, 2023 15:48:20 GMT 1, Can everyone PLEASE delete the posts with personal information. Do not wait for Daniel Silk to do this. Bump
Can everyone PLEASE delete the posts with personal information. Do not wait for Daniel Silk to do this. Bump
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by LJCal on Aug 17, 2023 23:31:39 GMT 1, Those two plonkers have gone pretty quiet recently, can't imagine why. Anyway just to keep people up to date with Noir's latest run at auction. Looks like £10k just round the corner, hope no one's been left holding the bag like Pete and Henners.
Edit - The one above is the same painting sold for £88,000 in April, the buyer lost £67,000 in less than 4 months after all fees and taxes. That's close to an 80% drop in 4 months. Criminal
Those two plonkers have gone pretty quiet recently, can't imagine why. Anyway just to keep people up to date with Noir's latest run at auction. Looks like £10k just round the corner, hope no one's been left holding the bag like Pete and Henners.
Edit - The one above is the same painting sold for £88,000 in April, the buyer lost £67,000 in less than 4 months after all fees and taxes. That's close to an 80% drop in 4 months. Criminal
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Masong on Aug 18, 2023 0:29:01 GMT 1, Those two plonkers have gone pretty quiet recently, can't imagine why. Anyway just to keep people up to date with Noir's latest run at auction. Looks like £10k just round the corner, hope no one's been left holding the bag like Pete and Henners. Its actually been nice on the forum without the aforementioned ‘plonkers’ so well done on trying to kick of off again. If we now get a repeat of the same old tripe again that we usually have to put up with you will definitely be the third plonker..
Those two plonkers have gone pretty quiet recently, can't imagine why. Anyway just to keep people up to date with Noir's latest run at auction. Looks like £10k just round the corner, hope no one's been left holding the bag like Pete and Henners. Its actually been nice on the forum without the aforementioned ‘plonkers’ so well done on trying to kick of off again. If we now get a repeat of the same old tripe again that we usually have to put up with you will definitely be the third plonker..
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by LJCal on Aug 18, 2023 0:32:21 GMT 1, Ah the beautiful irony of a Noir painting sandwiched between a Willem and Ismail. I think the curator was definitely trolling. This thread has aged like 3 day old milk in the sun, all in the space of about 3 months.
Ah the beautiful irony of a Noir painting sandwiched between a Willem and Ismail. I think the curator was definitely trolling. This thread has aged like 3 day old milk in the sun, all in the space of about 3 months.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by LJCal on Aug 18, 2023 0:33:52 GMT 1, Those two plonkers have gone pretty quiet recently, can't imagine why. Anyway just to keep people up to date with Noir's latest run at auction. Looks like £10k just round the corner, hope no one's been left holding the bag like Pete and Henners. It's actually been nice on the forum without the aforementioned ‘plonkers’ so well done on trying to kick off off again. If we now get a repeat of the same old tripe again that we usually have to put up with you will definitely be the third plonker.. If they have any shame they won't be back.
Those two plonkers have gone pretty quiet recently, can't imagine why. Anyway just to keep people up to date with Noir's latest run at auction. Looks like £10k just round the corner, hope no one's been left holding the bag like Pete and Henners. It's actually been nice on the forum without the aforementioned ‘plonkers’ so well done on trying to kick off off again. If we now get a repeat of the same old tripe again that we usually have to put up with you will definitely be the third plonker.. If they have any shame they won't be back.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Pete the Post on Aug 18, 2023 0:45:45 GMT 1, It's actually been nice on the forum without the aforementioned ‘plonkers’ so well done on trying to kick off off again. If we now get a repeat of the same old tripe again that we usually have to put up with you will definitely be the third plonker.. If they have any shame they won't be back. Interesting, maybe just one more waaafer thin mint? Before you re read his post lol.
It's actually been nice on the forum without the aforementioned ‘plonkers’ so well done on trying to kick off off again. If we now get a repeat of the same old tripe again that we usually have to put up with you will definitely be the third plonker.. If they have any shame they won't be back. Interesting, maybe just one more waaafer thin mint? Before you re read his post lol.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by High Contrast on Aug 18, 2023 7:22:56 GMT 1, Those two plonkers have gone pretty quiet recently, can't imagine why. Anyway just to keep people up to date with Noir's latest run at auction. Looks like £10k just round the corner, hope no one's been left holding the bag like Pete and Henners.
Edit - The one above is the same painting sold for £88,000 in April, the buyer lost £67,000 in less than 4 months after all fees and taxes. That's close to an 80% drop in 4 months. Criminal Omg I'd never have seen this coming
What a surprise
lol
Those two plonkers have gone pretty quiet recently, can't imagine why. Anyway just to keep people up to date with Noir's latest run at auction. Looks like £10k just round the corner, hope no one's been left holding the bag like Pete and Henners.
Edit - The one above is the same painting sold for £88,000 in April, the buyer lost £67,000 in less than 4 months after all fees and taxes. That's close to an 80% drop in 4 months. Criminal Omg I'd never have seen this coming What a surprise lol
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Devizes /\_/\ on Aug 18, 2023 8:23:50 GMT 1,
Those two plonkers have gone pretty quiet recently, can't imagine why. Anyway just to keep people up to date with Noir's latest run at auction. Looks like £10k just round the corner, hope no one's been left holding the bag like Pete and Henners.
Edit - The one above is the same painting sold for £88,000 in April, the buyer lost £67,000 in less than 4 months after all fees and taxes. That's close to an 80% drop in 4 months. Criminal Wow, that’s crazy 🤯
Those two plonkers have gone pretty quiet recently, can't imagine why. Anyway just to keep people up to date with Noir's latest run at auction. Looks like £10k just round the corner, hope no one's been left holding the bag like Pete and Henners.
Edit - The one above is the same painting sold for £88,000 in April, the buyer lost £67,000 in less than 4 months after all fees and taxes. That's close to an 80% drop in 4 months. Criminal Wow, that’s crazy 🤯
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Pete the Post on Aug 18, 2023 8:37:04 GMT 1, Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well.
Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol.
Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others.
Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. Its as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY its so good to buy the dips.
Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well.
Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol.
Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others.
Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. Its as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY its so good to buy the dips.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by The Italian One on Aug 18, 2023 8:46:26 GMT 1, always said there is something shady about that!
bear market will last and once the water drain we will see who is swimming naked!
always said there is something shady about that!
bear market will last and once the water drain we will see who is swimming naked!
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by drip on Aug 18, 2023 9:10:24 GMT 1, Ah the beautiful irony of a Noir painting sandwiched between a Willem and Ismail. I think the curator was definitely trolling. This thread has aged like 3 day old milk in the sun, all in the space of about 3 months. What *is* the story with the high prices for Albert Willem? Is it money laundering? Drugs? TikTokkers? Any theories? Would also accept gossip.
Ah the beautiful irony of a Noir painting sandwiched between a Willem and Ismail. I think the curator was definitely trolling. This thread has aged like 3 day old milk in the sun, all in the space of about 3 months. What *is* the story with the high prices for Albert Willem? Is it money laundering? Drugs? TikTokkers? Any theories? Would also accept gossip.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Pete the Post on Aug 18, 2023 9:28:42 GMT 1, always said there is something shady about that! bear market will last and once the water drain we will see who is swimming naked! Yep, this i 100% agree with.
Although im thinking a General UK market bump around the end of first quarter next year for a bit.
always said there is something shady about that! bear market will last and once the water drain we will see who is swimming naked! Yep, this i 100% agree with. Although im thinking a General UK market bump around the end of first quarter next year for a bit.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Wanchope on Aug 18, 2023 9:29:37 GMT 1, Been saying it for a while now that there is everything wrong with willem’s sky high prices and even stranger that I have seen the high end auction houses mentioned with pics of noir and willem side by side. All auction houses are 100% trustworthy though right 🤣🤣 fishy fishy fishy
Been saying it for a while now that there is everything wrong with willem’s sky high prices and even stranger that I have seen the high end auction houses mentioned with pics of noir and willem side by side. All auction houses are 100% trustworthy though right 🤣🤣 fishy fishy fishy
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Pete the Post on Aug 18, 2023 9:36:24 GMT 1, Going to be funny to bump this thread in a few years time, Might be the Banksy hand grenade thread all over again lol.
Might not, i have no crystal ball.
Going to be funny to bump this thread in a few years time, Might be the Banksy hand grenade thread all over again lol.
Might not, i have no crystal ball.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by bookends on Aug 18, 2023 10:27:38 GMT 1, Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well. Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol. Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others. Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. Its as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY its so good to buy the dips. Yet more drivel to defend a terrible artist, give up you boring sod
"Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others."
Sounds like you are a nasty little bully that needs help too !
Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well. Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol. Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others. Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. Its as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY its so good to buy the dips. Yet more drivel to defend a terrible artist, give up you boring sod "Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others." Sounds like you are a nasty little bully that needs help too !
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by The Italian One on Aug 18, 2023 10:30:51 GMT 1, where is Henners XXXXXXIIIIIVVV?
TN team gave up paying you?
where is Henners XXXXXXIIIIIVVV?
TN team gave up paying you?
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Pete the Post on Aug 18, 2023 10:33:38 GMT 1, Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well. Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol. Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others. Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. Its as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY its so good to buy the dips. Yet more drivel to defend a terrible artist, give up you boring sod Lol, well constructed counter argument there, very er, devoid of any substance. Or acceptance that artists are not all for everyone.
Thanks for your non input.
Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well. Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol. Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others. Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. Its as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY its so good to buy the dips. Yet more drivel to defend a terrible artist, give up you boring sod Lol, well constructed counter argument there, very er, devoid of any substance. Or acceptance that artists are not all for everyone. Thanks for your non input.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by LJCal on Aug 18, 2023 14:04:01 GMT 1, Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well. Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol. Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others. Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. It's as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY it's so good to buy the dips. Pete the games up mate. You can offend me all you like but the problem is people would have lost real money off the back of your conduct. Anyone buying in off the back of yours and your mates hype in the end may be lucky to recoup 10-20% of their investment, some may be professional and wealthy but others may just be hard working people looking for a way to improve their lot in life, some would have got themselves in debt to buy his work. Don't you think theres something wrong with that?
This is the reason I called this bullshit, yes there's always a little bit of fluff with most artists markets but the TN situation was such a blatant piss take. And yes the market has corrected for many artists but I mean not by 60-80% in such a short space of time because the whole situation was plainly contrived. His market won't be coming back any time soon, people have been too badly burned by this and he just doesn't have the pedigree or collector base to rise again, you can deny it all you like but deep down you know I'm right. The evidence is there for all to see in the auction results and the way you and other people hyping Noir have behaved to know this has all been a really greedy and grubby little performance.
Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well. Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol. Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others. Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. It's as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY it's so good to buy the dips. Pete the games up mate. You can offend me all you like but the problem is people would have lost real money off the back of your conduct. Anyone buying in off the back of yours and your mates hype in the end may be lucky to recoup 10-20% of their investment, some may be professional and wealthy but others may just be hard working people looking for a way to improve their lot in life, some would have got themselves in debt to buy his work. Don't you think theres something wrong with that? This is the reason I called this bullshit, yes there's always a little bit of fluff with most artists markets but the TN situation was such a blatant piss take. And yes the market has corrected for many artists but I mean not by 60-80% in such a short space of time because the whole situation was plainly contrived. His market won't be coming back any time soon, people have been too badly burned by this and he just doesn't have the pedigree or collector base to rise again, you can deny it all you like but deep down you know I'm right. The evidence is there for all to see in the auction results and the way you and other people hyping Noir have behaved to know this has all been a really greedy and grubby little performance.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by compound on Aug 18, 2023 14:17:45 GMT 1, Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well. Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol. Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others. Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. Its as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY its so good to buy the dips. Hang on a minute… “Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though”
Didn’t you create this thread to discuss Theirry Noir Christie’s, Philips, Sotheby’s Auctions? All about one artist? Maybe change it?
Theirry Noir Christie’s, Philips, Sotheby’s Auctions, Warning - only discuss auctions when my art collection is increasing.
Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well. Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol. Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others. Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. Its as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY its so good to buy the dips. Hang on a minute… “Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though” Didn’t you create this thread to discuss Theirry Noir Christie’s, Philips, Sotheby’s Auctions? All about one artist? Maybe change it? Theirry Noir Christie’s, Philips, Sotheby’s Auctions, Warning - only discuss auctions when my art collection is increasing.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Pete the Post on Aug 18, 2023 14:56:28 GMT 1, Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well. Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol. Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others. Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. Its as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY its so good to buy the dips. Hang on a minute… “Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though” Didn’t you create this thread to discuss Theirry Noir Christie’s, Philips, Sotheby’s Auctions? All about one artist? Maybe change it? Theirry Noir Christie’s, Philips, Sotheby’s Auctions, Warning - only discuss auctions when my art collection is increasing. Your right, i did. But i mean that some would like to make people believe the only faller in this market is noir, when its happened to pretty much all artists.
I get Noir is down , would actually be weird if he wasnt. As it stands, he had a nice rise, and has fallen back, along with the market in general, not as a stand alone artist.
Its funny, the claims were that it was propped up for ages, now he is falling and that holds no water, its a new line of attack, that denies the obvious reality of the market. Rather than the realisation it wasnt propped in the first place.
This place forgets some things fast, and blatantly ignores others.
Hyper focus is not good for alleged reality checks.
Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well. Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol. Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others. Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. Its as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY its so good to buy the dips. Hang on a minute… “Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though” Didn’t you create this thread to discuss Theirry Noir Christie’s, Philips, Sotheby’s Auctions? All about one artist? Maybe change it? Theirry Noir Christie’s, Philips, Sotheby’s Auctions, Warning - only discuss auctions when my art collection is increasing. Your right, i did. But i mean that some would like to make people believe the only faller in this market is noir, when its happened to pretty much all artists. I get Noir is down , would actually be weird if he wasnt. As it stands, he had a nice rise, and has fallen back, along with the market in general, not as a stand alone artist. Its funny, the claims were that it was propped up for ages, now he is falling and that holds no water, its a new line of attack, that denies the obvious reality of the market. Rather than the realisation it wasnt propped in the first place. This place forgets some things fast, and blatantly ignores others. Hyper focus is not good for alleged reality checks.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Pete the Post on Aug 18, 2023 15:04:28 GMT 1, Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well. Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol. Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others. Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. It's as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY it's so good to buy the dips. Pete the games up mate. You can offend me all you like but the problem is people would have lost real money off the back of your conduct. Anyone buying in off the back of yours and your mates hype in the end may be lucky to recoup 10-20% of their investment, some may be professional and wealthy but others may just be hard working people looking for a way to improve their lot in life, some would have got themselves in debt to buy his work. Don't you think theres something wrong with that? This is the reason I called this bullshit, yes there's always a little bit of fluff with most artists markets but the TN situation was such a blatant piss take. And yes the market has corrected for many artists but I mean not by 60-80% in such a short space of time because the whole situation was plainly contrived. His market won't be coming back any time soon, people have been too badly burned by this and he just doesn't have the pedigree or collector base to rise again, you can deny it all you like but deep down you know I'm right. The evidence is there for all to see in the auction results and the way you and other people hyping Noir have behaved to know this has all been a really greedy and grubby little performance. Yeah cool man. But you dont know the future, and you have no evidence of anything, as usual.
So as ever, your already well proven to be flawed opinions, are of little value.
You and the rest of us, will see how he comes out the other side of this, i dont know, and happily admit that. Your reputation (as a not really a gallery) is again on the line. But you are so sure of this, like you were about the posters, which you were 100% wrong about eh. You slated stik alongside noir, then start selling his work in your "not really a gallery" like the pure money driven hypocrite you are.
I would assume you have leached the scene, and done nothing for artists or any other part of this arty world.
Your full of your own self importance.
Lol deep down i know what? wow, you know what im thinking now? deep down and in general, i know your full of shit.
Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well. Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol. Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others. Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. It's as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY it's so good to buy the dips. Pete the games up mate. You can offend me all you like but the problem is people would have lost real money off the back of your conduct. Anyone buying in off the back of yours and your mates hype in the end may be lucky to recoup 10-20% of their investment, some may be professional and wealthy but others may just be hard working people looking for a way to improve their lot in life, some would have got themselves in debt to buy his work. Don't you think theres something wrong with that? This is the reason I called this bullshit, yes there's always a little bit of fluff with most artists markets but the TN situation was such a blatant piss take. And yes the market has corrected for many artists but I mean not by 60-80% in such a short space of time because the whole situation was plainly contrived. His market won't be coming back any time soon, people have been too badly burned by this and he just doesn't have the pedigree or collector base to rise again, you can deny it all you like but deep down you know I'm right. The evidence is there for all to see in the auction results and the way you and other people hyping Noir have behaved to know this has all been a really greedy and grubby little performance. Yeah cool man. But you dont know the future, and you have no evidence of anything, as usual. So as ever, your already well proven to be flawed opinions, are of little value. You and the rest of us, will see how he comes out the other side of this, i dont know, and happily admit that. Your reputation (as a not really a gallery) is again on the line. But you are so sure of this, like you were about the posters, which you were 100% wrong about eh. You slated stik alongside noir, then start selling his work in your "not really a gallery" like the pure money driven hypocrite you are. I would assume you have leached the scene, and done nothing for artists or any other part of this arty world. Your full of your own self importance. Lol deep down i know what? wow, you know what im thinking now? deep down and in general, i know your full of shit.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by LJCal on Aug 18, 2023 16:26:56 GMT 1, Pete the games up mate. You can offend me all you like but the problem is people would have lost real money off the back of your conduct. Anyone buying in off the back of yours and your mates hype in the end may be lucky to recoup 10-20% of their investment, some may be professional and wealthy but others may just be hard working people looking for a way to improve their lot in life, some would have got themselves in debt to buy his work. Don't you think theres something wrong with that? This is the reason I called this bullshit, yes there's always a little bit of fluff with most artists markets but the TN situation was such a blatant piss take. And yes the market has corrected for many artists but I mean not by 60-80% in such a short space of time because the whole situation was plainly contrived. His market won't be coming back any time soon, people have been too badly burned by this and he just doesn't have the pedigree or collector base to rise again, you can deny it all you like but deep down you know I'm right. The evidence is there for all to see in the auction results and the way you and other people hyping Noir have behaved to know this has all been a really greedy and grubby little performance. Yeah cool man. But you dont know the future, and you have no evidence of anything, as usual. So as ever, your already well proven to be flawed opinions, are of little value. You and the rest of us, will see how he comes out the other side of this, i dont know, and happily admit that. Your reputation (as a not really a gallery) is again on the line. But you are so sure of this, like you were about the posters, which you were 100% wrong about eh. You slated stik alongside noir, then start selling his work in your "not really a gallery" like the pure money driven hypocrite you are. I would assume you have leached the scene, and done nothing for artists or any other part of this arty world. Your full of your own self importance. Lol deep down i know what? wow, you know what im thinking now? deep down and in general, i know your full of shit. Keep attacking me mate it’s fine, you’re just further debasing yourself. You know me and the other people calling this out have been fully vindicated and you just look silly by continue making personal attacks on me. If you were some way involved in profiting on all of this then you should take a long hard look at yourself, if not have some humility and just accept what is evident.
Pete the games up mate. You can offend me all you like but the problem is people would have lost real money off the back of your conduct. Anyone buying in off the back of yours and your mates hype in the end may be lucky to recoup 10-20% of their investment, some may be professional and wealthy but others may just be hard working people looking for a way to improve their lot in life, some would have got themselves in debt to buy his work. Don't you think theres something wrong with that? This is the reason I called this bullshit, yes there's always a little bit of fluff with most artists markets but the TN situation was such a blatant piss take. And yes the market has corrected for many artists but I mean not by 60-80% in such a short space of time because the whole situation was plainly contrived. His market won't be coming back any time soon, people have been too badly burned by this and he just doesn't have the pedigree or collector base to rise again, you can deny it all you like but deep down you know I'm right. The evidence is there for all to see in the auction results and the way you and other people hyping Noir have behaved to know this has all been a really greedy and grubby little performance. Yeah cool man. But you dont know the future, and you have no evidence of anything, as usual. So as ever, your already well proven to be flawed opinions, are of little value. You and the rest of us, will see how he comes out the other side of this, i dont know, and happily admit that. Your reputation (as a not really a gallery) is again on the line. But you are so sure of this, like you were about the posters, which you were 100% wrong about eh. You slated stik alongside noir, then start selling his work in your "not really a gallery" like the pure money driven hypocrite you are. I would assume you have leached the scene, and done nothing for artists or any other part of this arty world. Your full of your own self importance. Lol deep down i know what? wow, you know what im thinking now? deep down and in general, i know your full of shit. Keep attacking me mate it’s fine, you’re just further debasing yourself. You know me and the other people calling this out have been fully vindicated and you just look silly by continue making personal attacks on me. If you were some way involved in profiting on all of this then you should take a long hard look at yourself, if not have some humility and just accept what is evident.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Humble Art Collector on Aug 18, 2023 17:06:34 GMT 1, Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well. Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol. Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others. Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. Its as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY its so good to buy the dips. The biggest problem I have with Henner's and Pete is the baseless hype. It is literally propaganda and marketing. We do not need to over sell the value of an artist especially in a forum like this. Comparing Noir to Warhol, Basquiat, Hirst, Picasso, and so many others is pointless. The former have history on their side and time. Noir will get there organically if her deserves it (which I sincerely hope he does) but building hype and false hope is trying to will it to be and in art that rarely succeeds.
My second issue is they shift their narrative to fit the conditions. It is like sports commentators who bash a team then when they surprise they pivot the conversation like they never said what they did. Own what you say and do not try and pivot your proclamations. If things are a given they will not "crash" there might be a minor dip but not a crash. I think we would be hard pressed to find an equal drop in all the artists you and Henner's were comparing Noir too.
There is a fine line between being a fan and positive on someone vs overhype and marketing. And if you are marketing or part of his team be transparent about it. What I have seen from both you and Henners are attacks on people and out right avoidance on you true role in the marketplace. Having that transparency would Gove the readers much more clarity if it is marketing vs real market conditions. And to me would feel a lot more ethical.
This is just my opinion but where I feel Noir has suffered from both of your hype, and in many cases attacks on people who disagree with you or dislike Thierry. Rather than respond with fact and real analysis it is suggestion / diversion / deception / blurry answers / pivots. Me personally I am a huge fan. He has been very good to me AND I hope he hits the next level. But I bought him because I like him not because I hope to make money. I always look at "living artists" as non-investments. The true value of art happens over generations and definitely changes over time as tastes change... only a handful of works will be worth tens and hundreds of millions over centuries.
Anyone following the scene to any level, knows that the market is not treating anyone well. Funny that some would love to focus ALL that market energy on one artist though. Also, picking out a massive outlier to use as your base point for evidence, shows you have no clue what you are talking about when it cones to data analysis. What a shock that is lol. Lets keep the fat lad in the right though shall we (might have to start calling tory boy Donald or 45 or something from now on lol), he needs to get some positive energy from something i guess. The mars bar diet wont provide much after all, i know, i tried it. Some things are harder to turn around than others. Buy when others sell, sell when others buy. Its as old as the hills, and as trustable as your granny. Feel free to ignore it, thats WHY its so good to buy the dips. The biggest problem I have with Henner's and Pete is the baseless hype. It is literally propaganda and marketing. We do not need to over sell the value of an artist especially in a forum like this. Comparing Noir to Warhol, Basquiat, Hirst, Picasso, and so many others is pointless. The former have history on their side and time. Noir will get there organically if her deserves it (which I sincerely hope he does) but building hype and false hope is trying to will it to be and in art that rarely succeeds. My second issue is they shift their narrative to fit the conditions. It is like sports commentators who bash a team then when they surprise they pivot the conversation like they never said what they did. Own what you say and do not try and pivot your proclamations. If things are a given they will not "crash" there might be a minor dip but not a crash. I think we would be hard pressed to find an equal drop in all the artists you and Henner's were comparing Noir too. There is a fine line between being a fan and positive on someone vs overhype and marketing. And if you are marketing or part of his team be transparent about it. What I have seen from both you and Henners are attacks on people and out right avoidance on you true role in the marketplace. Having that transparency would Gove the readers much more clarity if it is marketing vs real market conditions. And to me would feel a lot more ethical. This is just my opinion but where I feel Noir has suffered from both of your hype, and in many cases attacks on people who disagree with you or dislike Thierry. Rather than respond with fact and real analysis it is suggestion / diversion / deception / blurry answers / pivots. Me personally I am a huge fan. He has been very good to me AND I hope he hits the next level. But I bought him because I like him not because I hope to make money. I always look at "living artists" as non-investments. The true value of art happens over generations and definitely changes over time as tastes change... only a handful of works will be worth tens and hundreds of millions over centuries.
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