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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 14, 2020 14:44:34 GMT 1, Seems like Banksy is Benjamin button.
Seems like Banksy is Benjamin button.
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Coach on Jul 14, 2020 14:45:51 GMT 1, Bloody brilliant
Bloody brilliant
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 14, 2020 14:48:24 GMT 1, That gunningham? Lol
It is a very good work of art though!
That gunningham? Lol
It is a very good work of art though!
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by sven on Jul 14, 2020 16:26:55 GMT 1, Thoughts on what TFL do now?
Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈
Thoughts on what TFL do now?
Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by lv90210 on Jul 14, 2020 16:27:55 GMT 1, Thoughts on what TFL do now? Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈
Thoughts on what TFL do now? Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈 Remove, frame and put it in one of their stations for everyone to see, that would be ideal. |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Coach on Jul 14, 2020 16:34:57 GMT 1, Thoughts on what TFL do now? Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈
They should leave it exactly as it is. Don’t remove it. Don’t cover it.
If it gets tagged, scuffed, muddied or whatever, so be it. That is the ephemeral nature if street art. As soon as it is removed or covered it dies. Let people enjoy seeing it whilst it lasts, and when it’s gone, look forward to the next.
Thoughts on what TFL do now? Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈 They should leave it exactly as it is. Don’t remove it. Don’t cover it. If it gets tagged, scuffed, muddied or whatever, so be it. That is the ephemeral nature if street art. As soon as it is removed or covered it dies. Let people enjoy seeing it whilst it lasts, and when it’s gone, look forward to the next. |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by lv90210 on Jul 14, 2020 16:38:13 GMT 1, Thoughts on what TFL do now? Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈 They should leave it exactly as it is. Don’t remove it. Don’t cover it. If it gets tagged, scuffed, muddied or whatever, so be it. That is the ephemeral nature if street art. As soon as it is removed or covered it dies. Let people enjoy seeing it whilst it lasts, and when it’s gone, look forward to the next.
Thoughts on what TFL do now? Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈 They should leave it exactly as it is. Don’t remove it. Don’t cover it. If it gets tagged, scuffed, muddied or whatever, so be it. That is the ephemeral nature if street art. As soon as it is removed or covered it dies. Let people enjoy seeing it whilst it lasts, and when it’s gone, look forward to the next. If they leave it as it is it will be stolen which will be a terrible outcome. |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by drip on Jul 14, 2020 16:40:11 GMT 1, Thoughts on what TFL do now? Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈 They should leave it exactly as it is. Don’t remove it. Don’t cover it. If it gets tagged, scuffed, muddied or whatever, so be it. That is the ephemeral nature if street art. As soon as it is removed or covered it dies. Let people enjoy seeing it whilst it lasts, and when it’s gone, look forward to the next.
Thoughts on what TFL do now? Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈 They should leave it exactly as it is. Don’t remove it. Don’t cover it. If it gets tagged, scuffed, muddied or whatever, so be it. That is the ephemeral nature if street art. As soon as it is removed or covered it dies. Let people enjoy seeing it whilst it lasts, and when it’s gone, look forward to the next. Agreed. And I wonder if this was done some time ago, and it's already been removed. |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Happy Shopper on Jul 14, 2020 16:43:24 GMT 1, They should leave it exactly as it is. Don’t remove it. Don’t cover it. If it gets tagged, scuffed, muddied or whatever, so be it. That is the ephemeral nature if street art. As soon as it is removed or covered it dies. Let people enjoy seeing it whilst it lasts, and when it’s gone, look forward to the next. Agreed. And I wonder if this was done some time ago, and it's already been removed.
Probably. A few weeks ago, before people started to use the tube more.
They should leave it exactly as it is. Don’t remove it. Don’t cover it. If it gets tagged, scuffed, muddied or whatever, so be it. That is the ephemeral nature if street art. As soon as it is removed or covered it dies. Let people enjoy seeing it whilst it lasts, and when it’s gone, look forward to the next. Agreed. And I wonder if this was done some time ago, and it's already been removed. Probably. A few weeks ago, before people started to use the tube more. |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Terry Fuckwitt on Jul 14, 2020 16:54:23 GMT 1, Thoughts on what TFL do now? Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈 They should leave it exactly as it is. Don’t remove it. Don’t cover it. If it gets tagged, scuffed, muddied or whatever, so be it. That is the ephemeral nature if street art. As soon as it is removed or covered it dies. Let people enjoy seeing it whilst it lasts, and when it’s gone, look forward to the next.
I would imagine its long gone now anyway. It's probably washable chalk spray on those rats, nothing permanent.
Thoughts on what TFL do now? Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈 They should leave it exactly as it is. Don’t remove it. Don’t cover it. If it gets tagged, scuffed, muddied or whatever, so be it. That is the ephemeral nature if street art. As soon as it is removed or covered it dies. Let people enjoy seeing it whilst it lasts, and when it’s gone, look forward to the next. I would imagine its long gone now anyway. It's probably washable chalk spray on those rats, nothing permanent. |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by ca on Jul 14, 2020 18:54:48 GMT 1, back to the basics, I like the comeback of the rats and overall griminess of the pieces, really good
back to the basics, I like the comeback of the rats and overall griminess of the pieces, really good
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by tarquin73 on Jul 14, 2020 18:56:38 GMT 1, Twitter isn't happy  
Twitter never is these days!
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Midfield General on Jul 14, 2020 19:18:29 GMT 1, Thoughts on what TFL do now? Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈
Depends who owns the train, TFL don't own all the trains that run on their lines, all Northern line trains are owned by Alstom.
They will most likely clean the train and remove all trace of it. They cannot be seen to be promoting any sort of vandalism to their property regardless of who put it there.
A shame but I don't think they'll make an exception, although judging how much debt and financial trouble my company are in they would be better off auctioning it off!
Thoughts on what TFL do now? Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈 Depends who owns the train, TFL don't own all the trains that run on their lines, all Northern line trains are owned by Alstom. They will most likely clean the train and remove all trace of it. They cannot be seen to be promoting any sort of vandalism to their property regardless of who put it there. A shame but I don't think they'll make an exception, although judging how much debt and financial trouble my company are in they would be better off auctioning it off! |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by iamzero on Jul 14, 2020 19:21:34 GMT 1, They should leave it exactly as it is. Don’t remove it. Don’t cover it. If it gets tagged, scuffed, muddied or whatever, so be it. That is the ephemeral nature if street art. As soon as it is removed or covered it dies. Let people enjoy seeing it whilst it lasts, and when it’s gone, look forward to the next. I would imagine its long gone now anyway. It's probably washable chalk spray on those rats, nothing permanent.
Looked like Montana94 from the video.
They should leave it exactly as it is. Don’t remove it. Don’t cover it. If it gets tagged, scuffed, muddied or whatever, so be it. That is the ephemeral nature if street art. As soon as it is removed or covered it dies. Let people enjoy seeing it whilst it lasts, and when it’s gone, look forward to the next. I would imagine its long gone now anyway. It's probably washable chalk spray on those rats, nothing permanent. Looked like Montana94 from the video. |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by nex on Jul 14, 2020 19:25:55 GMT 1, Done last Friday - more than likely already cleaned off
Done last Friday - more than likely already cleaned off
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Dice on Jul 14, 2020 19:33:58 GMT 1, Yes my friend at TfL said there’s no way they would attempt to salvage it as the logistics of decommissioning a tube for any length of time is just too much
Yes my friend at TfL said there’s no way they would attempt to salvage it as the logistics of decommissioning a tube for any length of time is just too much
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by JW on Jul 14, 2020 19:34:28 GMT 1, Thoughts on what TFL do now? Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈 Depends who owns the train, TFL don't own all the trains that run on their lines, all Northern line trains are owned by Alstom. They will most likely clean the train and remove all trace of it. They cannot be seen to be promoting any sort of vandalism to their property regardless of who put it there. A shame but I don't think they'll make an exception, although judging how much debt and financial trouble my company are in they would be better off auctioning it off!
Or plonk it in the Transport Museum in Covent Garden, sell tickets to see it and flog limited edition (but not really limited) postcards in the gift shop. Beggars can't be choosers.
££££££££££££££££££££££££££
Thoughts on what TFL do now? Can think of a few options. Leave it as is, leave it as is but put panelling to protect the work (doubtful), remove the panels for some sort of display, remove the entire carriage for some sort of display or clean it off in some sort of anti graffiti statement 🙈 Depends who owns the train, TFL don't own all the trains that run on their lines, all Northern line trains are owned by Alstom. They will most likely clean the train and remove all trace of it. They cannot be seen to be promoting any sort of vandalism to their property regardless of who put it there. A shame but I don't think they'll make an exception, although judging how much debt and financial trouble my company are in they would be better off auctioning it off! Or plonk it in the Transport Museum in Covent Garden, sell tickets to see it and flog limited edition (but not really limited) postcards in the gift shop. Beggars can't be choosers. ££££££££££££££££££££££££££ |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Terry Fuckwitt on Jul 14, 2020 19:55:45 GMT 1, I would imagine its long gone now anyway. It's probably washable chalk spray on those rats, nothing permanent. Looked like Montana94 from the video.
Montana 94 is also available as a chalk
I would imagine its long gone now anyway. It's probably washable chalk spray on those rats, nothing permanent. Looked like Montana94 from the video. Montana 94 is also available as a chalk |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by iamzero on Jul 14, 2020 22:24:18 GMT 1, I was not aware of that...
I was not aware of that...
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by chefd on Jul 15, 2020 2:10:25 GMT 1, From the BBC today....
Transport for London (TfL) said the art was removed "some days ago" in line with its "strict anti-graffiti policy".
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The statement from TfL said it appreciated "the sentiment of encouraging people to wear face coverings".
"We'd like to offer Banksy the chance to do a new version of his message for our customers in a suitable location," it added.
From the BBC today....
Transport for London (TfL) said the art was removed "some days ago" in line with its "strict anti-graffiti policy".
and...
The statement from TfL said it appreciated "the sentiment of encouraging people to wear face coverings".
"We'd like to offer Banksy the chance to do a new version of his message for our customers in a suitable location," it added.
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by vvk on Jul 15, 2020 3:43:33 GMT 1, From the BBC today.... Transport for London (TfL) said the art was removed "some days ago" in line with its "strict anti-graffiti policy". and... The statement from TfL said it appreciated "the sentiment of encouraging people to wear face coverings". "We'd like to offer Banksy the chance to do a new version of his message for our customers in a suitable location," it added.
Something tells me that when these guys used the word “removed” they don’t mean”buff” like they would like us to Belive.
FTB!
From the BBC today.... Transport for London (TfL) said the art was removed "some days ago" in line with its "strict anti-graffiti policy". and... The statement from TfL said it appreciated "the sentiment of encouraging people to wear face coverings". "We'd like to offer Banksy the chance to do a new version of his message for our customers in a suitable location," it added. Something tells me that when these guys used the word “removed” they don’t mean”buff” like they would like us to Belive. FTB! |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by vvk on Jul 15, 2020 3:45:30 GMT 1, They should leave it exactly as it is. Don’t remove it. Don’t cover it. If it gets tagged, scuffed, muddied or whatever, so be it. That is the ephemeral nature if street art. As soon as it is removed or covered it dies. Let people enjoy seeing it whilst it lasts, and when it’s gone, look forward to the next. I would imagine its long gone now anyway. It's probably washable chalk spray on those rats, nothing permanent.
Montana spray and geese sticks. Pretty sure it will not was with water alone.
They should leave it exactly as it is. Don’t remove it. Don’t cover it. If it gets tagged, scuffed, muddied or whatever, so be it. That is the ephemeral nature if street art. As soon as it is removed or covered it dies. Let people enjoy seeing it whilst it lasts, and when it’s gone, look forward to the next. I would imagine its long gone now anyway. It's probably washable chalk spray on those rats, nothing permanent. Montana spray and geese sticks. Pretty sure it will not was with water alone. |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by maxamaxa2 on Jul 15, 2020 9:54:59 GMT 1, Something tells me that when these guys used the word “removed” they don’t mean”buff” like they would like us to Belive. FTB!
If it was recognised before cleaning they would probably just put it away as an asset, evaluate it and buy a few new for the loan on in. Only reasonable way to keep your policy while benefiting from it as a company.
Something tells me that when these guys used the word “removed” they don’t mean”buff” like they would like us to Belive. FTB! If it was recognised before cleaning they would probably just put it away as an asset, evaluate it and buy a few new for the loan on in. Only reasonable way to keep your policy while benefiting from it as a company. |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by inefficiency of on Jul 15, 2020 10:02:14 GMT 1, The only thing I could see to easily ‘Keep’ would be the doors. I’m guessing they are easily replaced and wouldn’t take long to switch to a new pair.
The only thing I could see to easily ‘Keep’ would be the doors. I’m guessing they are easily replaced and wouldn’t take long to switch to a new pair.
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 15, 2020 15:08:35 GMT 1, Interesting aspect of this work is that it was removed basically before anyone on the ‘street’ could even see it.
Basically this work is not a street work but a work used to create a video documentary.
I think this is true of a couple recent banksy works where their existence is less public art and more digital.
Interesting aspect of this work is that it was removed basically before anyone on the ‘street’ could even see it.
Basically this work is not a street work but a work used to create a video documentary.
I think this is true of a couple recent banksy works where their existence is less public art and more digital.
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by artdelight on Jul 15, 2020 19:54:29 GMT 1, At least ir was fun before they washed the painting
At least ir was fun before they washed the painting
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Coach on Jul 15, 2020 22:16:54 GMT 1, I doubt (but don’t know) that TFL would grant permission. They have a pretty strict policy on Graf I understand; and they said they removed it pursuant to that policy. They didn’t say oops, we didn’t realise it was Banksy it that they wished they hadn’t removed it.
As for meurke’s comment, well, of course making a video was part of the work (as that’s what Banksy did and shared!).
I doubt (but don’t know) that TFL would grant permission. They have a pretty strict policy on Graf I understand; and they said they removed it pursuant to that policy. They didn’t say oops, we didn’t realise it was Banksy it that they wished they hadn’t removed it.
As for meurke’s comment, well, of course making a video was part of the work (as that’s what Banksy did and shared!).
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by met on Jul 15, 2020 22:34:57 GMT 1, I doubt (but don’t know) that TFL would grant permission. They have a pretty strict policy on Graf I understand; and they said they removed it pursuant to that policy. They didn’t say oops, we didn’t realise it was Banksy it that they wished they hadn’t removed it. As for meurke’s comment, well, of course making a video was part of the work (as that’s what Banksy did and shared!).
The latest news today from TfL offers a slightly different story:
www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/banksy-tube-graffiti-artwork-coronavirus-removed-cleaner-a4498771.html
15 July 2020
Banksy's coronavirus-inspired Tube artwork ACCIDENTALLY removed by cleaner... and transport chiefs want him to do another one
Cleaners 'noticed some sort of ‘rat thing’ a few days ago and cleaned it off'
Transport for London want artist to do another version in a 'suitable location'
The graffiti artwork created by Banksy on a Tube train was accidentally removed by a cleaner, the Evening Standard can reveal.
The secretive world-renowned artist yesterday afternoon posted a video showing images of rats – including one wearing a facemask – being spray-painted onto a Circle line train.
The work was apparently inspired by lockdown and the implications of the coronavirus pandemic.
Last night Transport for London said the images had been removed as they breached its strict “no graffiti” policy, prompting a backlash on social media.
However, the Standard can today reveal that the artwork was in fact erased by a cleaner who had no knowledge of its significance - possibly as far back as last Friday.
One source said: “When we saw the video, we started to look into it and spoke to the cleaners. It started to emerge that they had noticed some sort of ‘rat thing’ a few days ago and cleaned it off, as they should.
“It rather changes the aspect for anyone seeking to go down the route of accusing us of cultural vandalism.”
The video apparently shows Banksy in a white protective suit and mask spray-painting stencils of his famous rat drawings – one using a face mask as a parachute and another with hand-sanitiser – on the inside of a Tube carriage as it travels towards Baker Street.
When the doors open at Euston Square, the message “I get lockdown" can be seen in graffiti on the station walls. The Tube doors then shut to reveal the rest of the message: "But I get up again".
Chumbawamba's song Tubthumping - also known as I Get Knocked Down - plays as the doors touch together.
The video, on Banksy’s Instagram page, has been viewed more than three million times. Banksy posted the accompanying message: “If you don’t mask – you don’t get.”
A TfL spokesman said: “We appreciate the sentiment of encouraging people to wear face coverings, which the vast majority of customers on our transport network are doing.
“In this particular case, the work was removed some days ago due to our strict anti-graffiti policy. We’d like to offer Banksy the chance to do a new version of his message for our customers in a suitable location.”
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I doubt (but don’t know) that TFL would grant permission. They have a pretty strict policy on Graf I understand; and they said they removed it pursuant to that policy. They didn’t say oops, we didn’t realise it was Banksy it that they wished they hadn’t removed it. As for meurke’s comment, well, of course making a video was part of the work (as that’s what Banksy did and shared!). The latest news today from TfL offers a slightly different story: www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/banksy-tube-graffiti-artwork-coronavirus-removed-cleaner-a4498771.html15 July 2020 Banksy's coronavirus-inspired Tube artwork ACCIDENTALLY removed by cleaner... and transport chiefs want him to do another one
Cleaners 'noticed some sort of ‘rat thing’ a few days ago and cleaned it off'
Transport for London want artist to do another version in a 'suitable location'
The graffiti artwork created by Banksy on a Tube train was accidentally removed by a cleaner, the Evening Standard can reveal.
The secretive world-renowned artist yesterday afternoon posted a video showing images of rats – including one wearing a facemask – being spray-painted onto a Circle line train.
The work was apparently inspired by lockdown and the implications of the coronavirus pandemic.
Last night Transport for London said the images had been removed as they breached its strict “no graffiti” policy, prompting a backlash on social media.
However, the Standard can today reveal that the artwork was in fact erased by a cleaner who had no knowledge of its significance - possibly as far back as last Friday.
One source said: “When we saw the video, we started to look into it and spoke to the cleaners. It started to emerge that they had noticed some sort of ‘rat thing’ a few days ago and cleaned it off, as they should.
“It rather changes the aspect for anyone seeking to go down the route of accusing us of cultural vandalism.”
The video apparently shows Banksy in a white protective suit and mask spray-painting stencils of his famous rat drawings – one using a face mask as a parachute and another with hand-sanitiser – on the inside of a Tube carriage as it travels towards Baker Street.
When the doors open at Euston Square, the message “I get lockdown" can be seen in graffiti on the station walls. The Tube doors then shut to reveal the rest of the message: "But I get up again".
Chumbawamba's song Tubthumping - also known as I Get Knocked Down - plays as the doors touch together.
The video, on Banksy’s Instagram page, has been viewed more than three million times. Banksy posted the accompanying message: “If you don’t mask – you don’t get.”
A TfL spokesman said: “We appreciate the sentiment of encouraging people to wear face coverings, which the vast majority of customers on our transport network are doing.
“In this particular case, the work was removed some days ago due to our strict anti-graffiti policy. We’d like to offer Banksy the chance to do a new version of his message for our customers in a suitable location.”
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