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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 16, 2020 0:35:50 GMT 1, I doubt (but don’t know) that TFL would grant permission. They have a pretty strict policy on Graf I understand; and they said they removed it pursuant to that policy. They didn’t say oops, we didn’t realise it was Banksy it that they wished they hadn’t removed it. As for meurke’s comment, well, of course making a video was part of the work (as that’s what Banksy did and shared!).
Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform.
Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life.
I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person.
What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in?
I doubt (but don’t know) that TFL would grant permission. They have a pretty strict policy on Graf I understand; and they said they removed it pursuant to that policy. They didn’t say oops, we didn’t realise it was Banksy it that they wished they hadn’t removed it. As for meurke’s comment, well, of course making a video was part of the work (as that’s what Banksy did and shared!). Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform. Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life. I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person. What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in? |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by drip on Jul 16, 2020 0:48:39 GMT 1, I doubt (but don’t know) that TFL would grant permission. They have a pretty strict policy on Graf I understand; and they said they removed it pursuant to that policy. They didn’t say oops, we didn’t realise it was Banksy it that they wished they hadn’t removed it. As for meurke’s comment, well, of course making a video was part of the work (as that’s what Banksy did and shared!). Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform. Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life. I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person. What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in?
I know what you mean though. I remember, after years of admiring the work of Francis Bacon, one day, in The Herbert gallery, I turned around and came unexpectedly face to face with an original for the first time. It created a very real and visceral sensation within me. Something primal. I wanted to have sex with it, basically. And you don't get that from art books. Well........some art books.
On the plus side, even taking into account the fact that humans travel about more than they ever have, the digital age gives many more the chance to see (if not "experience") works of art. And, regarding the latest Banksy, a piece of art (paint or performance) that, without being digitally documented, would've otherwise been seen by, what? - a dozen people or so on that train carriage? Probably also a couple of cleaners and maybe someone from the London Transport Police. A magistrate maybe, but that's it.
And I reckon, viewed digitally or not, the train thing created very real feelings in people.
I mean, I know if it wasn't for the internet, I would've got very little out of Banksy's whole BOTI show. You can't be everywhere, and Banksy's work doesn't last 5 f*cking minutes in the wild these days.
I doubt (but don’t know) that TFL would grant permission. They have a pretty strict policy on Graf I understand; and they said they removed it pursuant to that policy. They didn’t say oops, we didn’t realise it was Banksy it that they wished they hadn’t removed it. As for meurke’s comment, well, of course making a video was part of the work (as that’s what Banksy did and shared!). Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform. Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life. I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person. What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in? I think in the history of both art and the human race, relatively few people got to actually see any given work of art. I know what you mean though. I remember, after years of admiring the work of Francis Bacon, one day, in The Herbert gallery, I turned around and came unexpectedly face to face with an original for the first time. It created a very real and visceral sensation within me. Something primal. I wanted to have sex with it, basically. And you don't get that from art books. Well........some art books. On the plus side, even taking into account the fact that humans travel about more than they ever have, the digital age gives many more the chance to see (if not "experience") works of art. And, regarding the latest Banksy, a piece of art (paint or performance) that, without being digitally documented, would've otherwise been seen by, what? - a dozen people or so on that train carriage? Probably also a couple of cleaners and maybe someone from the London Transport Police. A magistrate maybe, but that's it. And I reckon, viewed digitally or not, the train thing created very real feelings in people. I mean, I know if it wasn't for the internet, I would've got very little out of Banksy's whole BOTI show. You can't be everywhere, and Banksy's work doesn't last 5 f*cking minutes in the wild these days. |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by mojo on Jul 16, 2020 1:39:55 GMT 1, Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform. Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life. I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person. What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in? I think in the history of both art and the human race, relatively few people got to actually see any given work of art. I know what you mean though. I remember, after years of admiring the work of Francis Bacon, one day, in The Herbert gallery, I turned around and came unexpectedly face to face with an original for the first time. It created a very real and visceral sensation within me. Something primal. I wanted to have sex with it, basically. And you don't get that from art books. Well........some art books. On the plus side, even taking into account the fact that humans travel about more than they ever have, the digital age gives many more the chance to see (if not "experience") works of art. And, regarding the latest Banksy, a piece of art (paint or performance) that, without being digitally documented, would've otherwise been seen by, what? - a dozen people or so on that train carriage? Probably also a couple of cleaners and maybe someone from the London Transport Police. A magistrate maybe, but that's it. And I reckon, viewed digitally or not, the train thing created very real feelings in people. I mean, I know if it wasn't for the internet, I would've got very little out of Banksy's whole BOTI show. You can't be everywhere, and Banksy's work doesn't last 5 f*cking minutes in the wild these days.  
What ever floats ya boat drip!
Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform. Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life. I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person. What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in? I think in the history of both art and the human race, relatively few people got to actually see any given work of art. I know what you mean though. I remember, after years of admiring the work of Francis Bacon, one day, in The Herbert gallery, I turned around and came unexpectedly face to face with an original for the first time. It created a very real and visceral sensation within me. Something primal. I wanted to have sex with it, basically. And you don't get that from art books. Well........some art books. On the plus side, even taking into account the fact that humans travel about more than they ever have, the digital age gives many more the chance to see (if not "experience") works of art. And, regarding the latest Banksy, a piece of art (paint or performance) that, without being digitally documented, would've otherwise been seen by, what? - a dozen people or so on that train carriage? Probably also a couple of cleaners and maybe someone from the London Transport Police. A magistrate maybe, but that's it. And I reckon, viewed digitally or not, the train thing created very real feelings in people. I mean, I know if it wasn't for the internet, I would've got very little out of Banksy's whole BOTI show. You can't be everywhere, and Banksy's work doesn't last 5 f*cking minutes in the wild these days. Herbert Gallery Staff - "Quick emergency call security we've got one of the visitors about to shag the Bacon" What ever floats ya boat drip! |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 16, 2020 2:14:34 GMT 1, Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform. Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life. I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person. What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in? I think in the history of both art and the human race, relatively few people got to actually see any given work of art. I know what you mean though. I remember, after years of admiring the work of Francis Bacon, one day, in The Herbert gallery, I turned around and came unexpectedly face to face with an original for the first time. It created a very real and visceral sensation within me. Something primal. I wanted to have sex with it, basically. And you don't get that from art books. Well........some art books. On the plus side, even taking into account the fact that humans travel about more than they ever have, the digital age gives many more the chance to see (if not "experience") works of art. And, regarding the latest Banksy, a piece of art (paint or performance) that, without being digitally documented, would've otherwise been seen by, what? - a dozen people or so on that train carriage? Probably also a couple of cleaners and maybe someone from the London Transport Police. A magistrate maybe, but that's it. And I reckon, viewed digitally or not, the train thing created very real feelings in people. I mean, I know if it wasn't for the internet, I would've got very little out of Banksy's whole BOTI show. You can't be everywhere, and Banksy's work doesn't last 5 f*cking minutes in the wild these days.
Im following all you are saying.
But there is something different about the actual artist sharing it digitally vs say a documentation on a textbook.
It’s almost like the artist is ‘okay’ with the digital reality over any physically reality. And that seems odd.
Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform. Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life. I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person. What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in? I think in the history of both art and the human race, relatively few people got to actually see any given work of art. I know what you mean though. I remember, after years of admiring the work of Francis Bacon, one day, in The Herbert gallery, I turned around and came unexpectedly face to face with an original for the first time. It created a very real and visceral sensation within me. Something primal. I wanted to have sex with it, basically. And you don't get that from art books. Well........some art books. On the plus side, even taking into account the fact that humans travel about more than they ever have, the digital age gives many more the chance to see (if not "experience") works of art. And, regarding the latest Banksy, a piece of art (paint or performance) that, without being digitally documented, would've otherwise been seen by, what? - a dozen people or so on that train carriage? Probably also a couple of cleaners and maybe someone from the London Transport Police. A magistrate maybe, but that's it. And I reckon, viewed digitally or not, the train thing created very real feelings in people. I mean, I know if it wasn't for the internet, I would've got very little out of Banksy's whole BOTI show. You can't be everywhere, and Banksy's work doesn't last 5 f*cking minutes in the wild these days. Im following all you are saying. But there is something different about the actual artist sharing it digitally vs say a documentation on a textbook. It’s almost like the artist is ‘okay’ with the digital reality over any physically reality. And that seems odd. |
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 16, 2020 2:19:35 GMT 1, Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform. Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life. I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person. What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in? I think in the history of both art and the human race, relatively few people got to actually see any given work of art. I know what you mean though. I remember, after years of admiring the work of Francis Bacon, one day, in The Herbert gallery, I turned around and came unexpectedly face to face with an original for the first time. It created a very real and visceral sensation within me. Something primal. I wanted to have sex with it, basically. And you don't get that from art books. Well........some art books. On the plus side, even taking into account the fact that humans travel about more than they ever have, the digital age gives many more the chance to see (if not "experience") works of art. And, regarding the latest Banksy, a piece of art (paint or performance) that, without being digitally documented, would've otherwise been seen by, what? - a dozen people or so on that train carriage? Probably also a couple of cleaners and maybe someone from the London Transport Police. A magistrate maybe, but that's it. And I reckon, viewed digitally or not, the train thing created very real feelings in people. I mean, I know if it wasn't for the internet, I would've got very little out of Banksy's whole BOTI show. You can't be everywhere, and Banksy's work doesn't last 5 f*cking minutes in the wild these days.
I also think this feels different then say BOTI is because there is no ‘real’ in situ Photos. Like this wasn’t experience at all by any person in the general public. We saw banksy boti photos from various real life people. This not at all.
Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform. Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life. I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person. What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in? I think in the history of both art and the human race, relatively few people got to actually see any given work of art. I know what you mean though. I remember, after years of admiring the work of Francis Bacon, one day, in The Herbert gallery, I turned around and came unexpectedly face to face with an original for the first time. It created a very real and visceral sensation within me. Something primal. I wanted to have sex with it, basically. And you don't get that from art books. Well........some art books. On the plus side, even taking into account the fact that humans travel about more than they ever have, the digital age gives many more the chance to see (if not "experience") works of art. And, regarding the latest Banksy, a piece of art (paint or performance) that, without being digitally documented, would've otherwise been seen by, what? - a dozen people or so on that train carriage? Probably also a couple of cleaners and maybe someone from the London Transport Police. A magistrate maybe, but that's it. And I reckon, viewed digitally or not, the train thing created very real feelings in people. I mean, I know if it wasn't for the internet, I would've got very little out of Banksy's whole BOTI show. You can't be everywhere, and Banksy's work doesn't last 5 f*cking minutes in the wild these days. I also think this feels different then say BOTI is because there is no ‘real’ in situ Photos. Like this wasn’t experience at all by any person in the general public. We saw banksy boti photos from various real life people. This not at all. |
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