LJCal
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Christie's Art Auctions , by LJCal on Mar 12, 2023 7:57:21 GMT 1, Those your pieces?
In fairness I have a few bits in this auction so feel free to promote!
Those your pieces? In fairness I have a few bits in this auction so feel free to promote!
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acme
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Christie's Art Auctions , by acme on Mar 12, 2023 16:41:07 GMT 1, Those your pieces? In fairness I have a few bits in this auction so feel free to promote!
No, not my pieces. I just promote street art.
Though one piece might be mine as I'm interested in a certain lot but not Banksy
I don't understand "Please note this lot is the property of a consumer. See H1 of the Conditions of Sale." Does that mean Christie's did not inspect the artworks? I can't find H1 in the conditions of sale!
Those your pieces? In fairness I have a few bits in this auction so feel free to promote! No, not my pieces. I just promote street art. Though one piece might be mine as I'm interested in a certain lot but not Banksy I don't understand "Please note this lot is the property of a consumer. See H1 of the Conditions of Sale." Does that mean Christie's did not inspect the artworks? I can't find H1 in the conditions of sale!
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Christie's Art Auctions , by cemltz on Mar 12, 2023 17:25:19 GMT 1, Those your pieces? In fairness I have a few bits in this auction so feel free to promote! No, not my pieces. I just promote street art. Though one piece might be mine as I'm interested in a certain lot but not Banksy I don't understand "Please note this lot is the property of a consumer. See H1 of the Conditions of Sale." Does that mean Christie's did not inspect the artworks? I can't find H1 in the conditions of sale! The clause has to do with EU and UK consumer rights. Basically, if you buy something from a business you have the right to cancel the transaction/return the item. So if you were buying from Christie’s, you could just cancel after the fact. To get around that, Christie’s makes it clear that they are not taking possession of the item, therefore they cannot legally be the party selling it it, therefore those protections do not apply. You are buying it from an individual (the “consumer”), entering in to said contract, and your bid is binding. Roughly.
Those your pieces? In fairness I have a few bits in this auction so feel free to promote! No, not my pieces. I just promote street art. Though one piece might be mine as I'm interested in a certain lot but not Banksy I don't understand "Please note this lot is the property of a consumer. See H1 of the Conditions of Sale." Does that mean Christie's did not inspect the artworks? I can't find H1 in the conditions of sale! The clause has to do with EU and UK consumer rights. Basically, if you buy something from a business you have the right to cancel the transaction/return the item. So if you were buying from Christie’s, you could just cancel after the fact. To get around that, Christie’s makes it clear that they are not taking possession of the item, therefore they cannot legally be the party selling it it, therefore those protections do not apply. You are buying it from an individual (the “consumer”), entering in to said contract, and your bid is binding. Roughly.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by its all about me on Mar 12, 2023 17:26:51 GMT 1, Those your pieces? In fairness I have a few bits in this auction so feel free to promote! No, not my pieces. I just promote street art. Though one piece might be mine as I'm interested in a certain lot but not Banksy I don't understand "Please note this lot is the property of a consumer. See H1 of the Conditions of Sale." Does that mean Christie's did not inspect the artworks? I can't find H1 in the conditions of sale! H1 is about your legal rights if you want to cancel the purchase. Doesn't say anything about inspection though.
It's nearly half way down this page...
www.christies.com/pdf/onlineonly/EcommerceConditionsOfSale-London-10JUN22.pdf
Those your pieces? In fairness I have a few bits in this auction so feel free to promote! No, not my pieces. I just promote street art. Though one piece might be mine as I'm interested in a certain lot but not Banksy I don't understand "Please note this lot is the property of a consumer. See H1 of the Conditions of Sale." Does that mean Christie's did not inspect the artworks? I can't find H1 in the conditions of sale! H1 is about your legal rights if you want to cancel the purchase. Doesn't say anything about inspection though. It's nearly half way down this page... www.christies.com/pdf/onlineonly/EcommerceConditionsOfSale-London-10JUN22.pdf
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topboy
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Christie's Art Auctions , by topboy on Mar 12, 2023 18:26:29 GMT 1, INVADER (B. 1969) 3D Little Big Space Current Bid (34 Bids)GBP 5,500
INVADER (B. 1969) 3D Little Big Space Current Bid (34 Bids)GBP 5,500
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Christie's Art Auctions , by sevrin on Mar 12, 2023 18:31:47 GMT 1, INVADER (B. 1969) 3D Little Big Space Current Bid (34 Bids)GBP Among the types of auction fraud, the most prominent is Shill bidding. Shill bidding is intentionally fake bidding by a seller on his/her own auction to inflate the final price. This can be accomplished either by the seller himself/herself or by someone colluding with the seller to place fake bids on his/her behalf.
Shock Horror!............
INVADER (B. 1969) 3D Little Big Space Current Bid (34 Bids)GBP Among the types of auction fraud, the most prominent is Shill bidding. Shill bidding is intentionally fake bidding by a seller on his/her own auction to inflate the final price. This can be accomplished either by the seller himself/herself or by someone colluding with the seller to place fake bids on his/her behalf. Shock Horror!............
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Christie's Art Auctions , by billybob1969 on Mar 12, 2023 19:58:29 GMT 1, INVADER (B. 1969) 3D Little Big Space Current Bid (34 Bids)GBP Among the types of auction fraud, the most prominent is Shill bidding. Shill bidding is intentionally fake bidding by a seller on his/her own auction to inflate the final price. This can be accomplished either by the seller himself/herself or by someone colluding with the seller to place fake bids on his/her behalf. Shock Horror!............ interesting. Presumably you have some evidence of this? Or is it just rampant speculation?
INVADER (B. 1969) 3D Little Big Space Current Bid (34 Bids)GBP Among the types of auction fraud, the most prominent is Shill bidding. Shill bidding is intentionally fake bidding by a seller on his/her own auction to inflate the final price. This can be accomplished either by the seller himself/herself or by someone colluding with the seller to place fake bids on his/her behalf. Shock Horror!............ interesting. Presumably you have some evidence of this? Or is it just rampant speculation?
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acme
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Christie's Art Auctions , by acme on Mar 12, 2023 20:35:41 GMT 1, INVADER (B. 1969) 3D Little Big Space Current Bid (34 Bids)GBP Among the types of auction fraud, the most prominent is Shill bidding. Shill bidding is intentionally fake bidding by a seller on his/her own auction to inflate the final price. This can be accomplished either by the seller himself/herself or by someone colluding with the seller to place fake bids on his/her behalf. Shock Horror!............ Hm, you can't compare ebay auctions and auctions houses. At auction houses you expect some sort of vetting and collectors are willing to pay for that. I got scammed a couple of times on ebay so I started to look elsewhere and I'm paying premium to not end up with a total loss. In addition to that shill bidding happens at auction houses as well on ebay.
INVADER (B. 1969) 3D Little Big Space Current Bid (34 Bids)GBP Among the types of auction fraud, the most prominent is Shill bidding. Shill bidding is intentionally fake bidding by a seller on his/her own auction to inflate the final price. This can be accomplished either by the seller himself/herself or by someone colluding with the seller to place fake bids on his/her behalf. Shock Horror!............ Hm, you can't compare ebay auctions and auctions houses. At auction houses you expect some sort of vetting and collectors are willing to pay for that. I got scammed a couple of times on ebay so I started to look elsewhere and I'm paying premium to not end up with a total loss. In addition to that shill bidding happens at auction houses as well on ebay.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Pete the Post on Mar 12, 2023 20:41:56 GMT 1, INVADER (B. 1969) 3D Little Big Space Current Bid (34 Bids)GBP Among the types of auction fraud, the most prominent is Shill bidding. Shill bidding is intentionally fake bidding by a seller on his/her own auction to inflate the final price. This can be accomplished either by the seller himself/herself or by someone colluding with the seller to place fake bids on his/her behalf. Shock Horror!............ So if i run with YOUR (i want nothing to do with any blame!) theory here, do you think they have pushed a paying bidder to this level, or do you think they will crate a no sale for their own item?
INVADER (B. 1969) 3D Little Big Space Current Bid (34 Bids)GBP Among the types of auction fraud, the most prominent is Shill bidding. Shill bidding is intentionally fake bidding by a seller on his/her own auction to inflate the final price. This can be accomplished either by the seller himself/herself or by someone colluding with the seller to place fake bids on his/her behalf. Shock Horror!............ So if i run with YOUR (i want nothing to do with any blame!) theory here, do you think they have pushed a paying bidder to this level, or do you think they will crate a no sale for their own item?
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sevrin
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Christie's Art Auctions , by sevrin on Mar 12, 2023 21:46:26 GMT 1, Among the types of auction fraud, the most prominent is Shill bidding. Shill bidding is intentionally fake bidding by a seller on his/her own auction to inflate the final price. This can be accomplished either by the seller himself/herself or by someone colluding with the seller to place fake bids on his/her behalf. Shock Horror!............ So if i run with YOUR (i want nothing to do with any blame!) theory here, do you think they have pushed a paying bidder to this level, or do you think they will crate a no sale for their own item? I don't believe the bids are genuine no. It makes no sense to pay the equivalent of 8k after fees for a piece you can pick up for £750 on multiple platforms.
Among the types of auction fraud, the most prominent is Shill bidding. Shill bidding is intentionally fake bidding by a seller on his/her own auction to inflate the final price. This can be accomplished either by the seller himself/herself or by someone colluding with the seller to place fake bids on his/her behalf. Shock Horror!............ So if i run with YOUR (i want nothing to do with any blame!) theory here, do you think they have pushed a paying bidder to this level, or do you think they will crate a no sale for their own item? I don't believe the bids are genuine no. It makes no sense to pay the equivalent of 8k after fees for a piece you can pick up for £750 on multiple platforms.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Harveyn on Mar 12, 2023 21:46:42 GMT 1, Whilst its not legal for a seller to bid on their own auction there is nothing illegal about an acquaintance doing so.
Auction houses are legally allowed to bid themselves if there's only one bidder to “run them up” to the reserve price, by bidding against them. However, if their highest bid is still lower than the reserve price then the item will not sell.
Known as "Off The Wall".
Effectively if an auctioneer is auctioning a lot but the level of bidding has not reached the reserve price, the auctioneer is permitted by statue to bid on behalf of the vendor.
Whilst its not legal for a seller to bid on their own auction there is nothing illegal about an acquaintance doing so.
Auction houses are legally allowed to bid themselves if there's only one bidder to “run them up” to the reserve price, by bidding against them. However, if their highest bid is still lower than the reserve price then the item will not sell.
Known as "Off The Wall".
Effectively if an auctioneer is auctioning a lot but the level of bidding has not reached the reserve price, the auctioneer is permitted by statue to bid on behalf of the vendor.
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sevrin
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Christie's Art Auctions , by sevrin on Mar 12, 2023 21:48:18 GMT 1, Among the types of auction fraud, the most prominent is Shill bidding. Shill bidding is intentionally fake bidding by a seller on his/her own auction to inflate the final price. This can be accomplished either by the seller himself/herself or by someone colluding with the seller to place fake bids on his/her behalf. Shock Horror!............ interesting. Presumably you have some evidence of this? Or is it just rampant speculation? Just my opinion. would you pay 8k after fees for a piece you can get many other places for £750 or even less? doesn't make sense!
Among the types of auction fraud, the most prominent is Shill bidding. Shill bidding is intentionally fake bidding by a seller on his/her own auction to inflate the final price. This can be accomplished either by the seller himself/herself or by someone colluding with the seller to place fake bids on his/her behalf. Shock Horror!............ interesting. Presumably you have some evidence of this? Or is it just rampant speculation? Just my opinion. would you pay 8k after fees for a piece you can get many other places for £750 or even less? doesn't make sense!
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Harveyn on Mar 12, 2023 21:52:57 GMT 1, Which is why people quoting the value works are bid up to whilst not selling is a nonsense and not worth taking into consideration if considering market value.
Then you have "Bought In" were the auction house buys the work. Often used by auction houses to get high end works to auction whilst guaranteeing the work is not burnt.
Which is why people quoting the value works are bid up to whilst not selling is a nonsense and not worth taking into consideration if considering market value.
Then you have "Bought In" were the auction house buys the work. Often used by auction houses to get high end works to auction whilst guaranteeing the work is not burnt.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by topboy on Mar 12, 2023 22:00:02 GMT 1, Not everyone sits on the Banksy Forum or watch/check ebay prices. Maybe they see others works by invader selling for high prices. And see the quality of the sculpture and the box and think its worth it. We see plenty of Banksy posters sell for £2k or £3k. And you can pick one up for half that on here or ebay.
Not everyone sits on the Banksy Forum or watch/check ebay prices. Maybe they see others works by invader selling for high prices. And see the quality of the sculpture and the box and think its worth it. We see plenty of Banksy posters sell for £2k or £3k. And you can pick one up for half that on here or ebay.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by met on Mar 12, 2023 22:15:54 GMT 1, Which is why people quoting the value works are bid up to whilst not selling is a nonsense and not worth taking into consideration if considering market value. Then you have "Bought In" were the auction house buys the work. Often used by auction houses to get high end works to auction whilst guaranteeing the work is not burnt.
The text highlighted in red is incorrect.
An auction lot that is "bought in" simply means it is unsold — with bidding (if any) having failed to reach the reserve price.
Which is why people quoting the value works are bid up to whilst not selling is a nonsense and not worth taking into consideration if considering market value. Then you have "Bought In" were the auction house buys the work. Often used by auction houses to get high end works to auction whilst guaranteeing the work is not burnt. The text highlighted in red is incorrect. An auction lot that is "bought in" simply means it is unsold — with bidding (if any) having failed to reach the reserve price.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Harveyn on Mar 12, 2023 22:28:47 GMT 1, Sorry Met your quite correct.
Is there an actual description for when an auction house guarantees the consignee their work will sell or have I imagined that?
Sorry Met your quite correct.
Is there an actual description for when an auction house guarantees the consignee their work will sell or have I imagined that?
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Christie's Art Auctions , by pamplemousse on Mar 12, 2023 22:38:39 GMT 1, Whoever is bidding on the Nicolas Party / Lady Gaga vinyl (£4500) can buy it at source for $2500. I do regret cancelling my Ed Ruscha's All Eyez On Me order but the whole release seemed very sketchy.
Whoever is bidding on the Nicolas Party / Lady Gaga vinyl (£4500) can buy it at source for $2500. I do regret cancelling my Ed Ruscha's All Eyez On Me order but the whole release seemed very sketchy.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Pete the Post on Mar 12, 2023 22:59:59 GMT 1, So if i run with YOUR (i want nothing to do with any blame!) theory here, do you think they have pushed a paying bidder to this level, or do you think they will crate a no sale for their own item? I don't believe the bids are genuine no. It makes no sense to pay the equivalent of 8k after fees for a piece you can pick up for £750 on multiple platforms. So, what is the benefit here? where is the sellers gain, in ruining their sale with crazy bids. if there isnt a real underbidder, they gain nothing here. But to get their piece back.
So if i run with YOUR (i want nothing to do with any blame!) theory here, do you think they have pushed a paying bidder to this level, or do you think they will crate a no sale for their own item? I don't believe the bids are genuine no. It makes no sense to pay the equivalent of 8k after fees for a piece you can pick up for £750 on multiple platforms. So, what is the benefit here? where is the sellers gain, in ruining their sale with crazy bids. if there isnt a real underbidder, they gain nothing here. But to get their piece back.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by billybob1969 on Mar 12, 2023 23:03:11 GMT 1, interesting. Presumably you have some evidence of this? Or is it just rampant speculation? Just my opinion. would you pay 8k after fees for a piece you can get many other places for £750 or even less? doesn't make sense! I’ve consigned hundreds of things to auction and every so often a piece of tat I sell goes for 10-20x its true value, I could share dozens of examples. Free posters that are selling for £200 on eBay end up selling for £5K. No conspiracy just misinformed buyers or collectors with more money than sense. It’s the auction game, for every piece that goes to the moon one will get no bids or sell for reserve. Of course shill bidding happens especially in lower tier auction houses but it’s far less common than people think. In terms of how much this result will move the market it may add a hundred pounds or so to the value of these short term but many collectors will see it as a crazy outlier rather than a new bench mark. There are 5000 of these out there so very difficult to control the market especially when the value of Invader editions is falling.
interesting. Presumably you have some evidence of this? Or is it just rampant speculation? Just my opinion. would you pay 8k after fees for a piece you can get many other places for £750 or even less? doesn't make sense! I’ve consigned hundreds of things to auction and every so often a piece of tat I sell goes for 10-20x its true value, I could share dozens of examples. Free posters that are selling for £200 on eBay end up selling for £5K. No conspiracy just misinformed buyers or collectors with more money than sense. It’s the auction game, for every piece that goes to the moon one will get no bids or sell for reserve. Of course shill bidding happens especially in lower tier auction houses but it’s far less common than people think. In terms of how much this result will move the market it may add a hundred pounds or so to the value of these short term but many collectors will see it as a crazy outlier rather than a new bench mark. There are 5000 of these out there so very difficult to control the market especially when the value of Invader editions is falling.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by billybob1969 on Mar 12, 2023 23:07:13 GMT 1, Sorry Met your quite correct. Is there an actual description for when an auction house guarantees the consignee their work will sell or have I imagined that? Yes auction houses should disclose a guarantee and the decent ones usually do. It’s pretty rare that an auction house will guarantee a work and commit to buy it themselves (although it has happened), more often they will have a client underwrite the work, this is where a dealer or collector agree to buy at a floor price for either a fee or cut of the upside if it goes above the floor. It’s quite common practice for larger pieces.
Sorry Met your quite correct. Is there an actual description for when an auction house guarantees the consignee their work will sell or have I imagined that? Yes auction houses should disclose a guarantee and the decent ones usually do. It’s pretty rare that an auction house will guarantee a work and commit to buy it themselves (although it has happened), more often they will have a client underwrite the work, this is where a dealer or collector agree to buy at a floor price for either a fee or cut of the upside if it goes above the floor. It’s quite common practice for larger pieces.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Jonas B on Mar 12, 2023 23:12:35 GMT 1, Mint Green Stik print currently at £30k is nothing short of preposterous.
Mint Green Stik print currently at £30k is nothing short of preposterous.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Pete the Post on Mar 12, 2023 23:38:42 GMT 1, Mint Green Stik print currently at £30k is nothing short of preposterous. You mean apart from the fact its a PP and the edition was never sold? Seems like an awesome piece of really rare stik to me. Plus its the image off his book.
You dont seem to know much about stik at all. the other day, he was tanking after a huge auction result, today one of his rarest prints hitting fairly average print money, is preposterous.
Edit (i just realised your skinback, all becomes obvious)
Mint Green Stik print currently at £30k is nothing short of preposterous. You mean apart from the fact its a PP and the edition was never sold? Seems like an awesome piece of really rare stik to me. Plus its the image off his book. You dont seem to know much about stik at all. the other day, he was tanking after a huge auction result, today one of his rarest prints hitting fairly average print money, is preposterous. Edit (i just realised your skinback, all becomes obvious)
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acme
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Christie's Art Auctions , by acme on Mar 13, 2023 2:21:17 GMT 1, I'm wondering if certain collectors buy just from Christie's. So compared to people buy cars only from Porsche. So these collectors might wait until the right piece from the right artist turns up at Christies and they just want to own it and not wait until it turns up for a lower price at a different auction house.
I'm wondering if certain collectors buy just from Christie's. So compared to people buy cars only from Porsche. So these collectors might wait until the right piece from the right artist turns up at Christies and they just want to own it and not wait until it turns up for a lower price at a different auction house.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Jonas B on Mar 13, 2023 9:44:42 GMT 1, Mint Green Stik print currently at £30k is nothing short of preposterous. You mean apart from the fact its a PP and the edition was never sold? Seems like an awesome piece of really rare stik to me. Plus its the image off his book. You dont seem to know much about stik at all. the other day, he was tanking after a huge auction result, today one of his rarest prints hitting fairly average print money, is preposterous. Edit (i just realised your skinback, all becomes obvious) You clearly don’t know the kind of real art you can buy for that much money. By the way it’s ‘you’re’ not your.
Mint Green Stik print currently at £30k is nothing short of preposterous. You mean apart from the fact its a PP and the edition was never sold? Seems like an awesome piece of really rare stik to me. Plus its the image off his book. You dont seem to know much about stik at all. the other day, he was tanking after a huge auction result, today one of his rarest prints hitting fairly average print money, is preposterous. Edit (i just realised your skinback, all becomes obvious) You clearly don’t know the kind of real art you can buy for that much money. By the way it’s ‘you’re’ not your.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Pete the Post on Mar 13, 2023 10:35:44 GMT 1, You mean apart from the fact its a PP and the edition was never sold? Seems like an awesome piece of really rare stik to me. Plus its the image off his book. You dont seem to know much about stik at all. the other day, he was tanking after a huge auction result, today one of his rarest prints hitting fairly average print money, is preposterous. Edit (i just realised your skinback, all becomes obvious) You clearly don’t know the kind of real art you can buy for that much money. By the way it’s ‘you’re’ not your. You clearly dont understand the art world at all.
But hey, your skinback, so i dont need to expand on anything mr pedantic t**t troll.
You mean apart from the fact its a PP and the edition was never sold? Seems like an awesome piece of really rare stik to me. Plus its the image off his book. You dont seem to know much about stik at all. the other day, he was tanking after a huge auction result, today one of his rarest prints hitting fairly average print money, is preposterous. Edit (i just realised your skinback, all becomes obvious) You clearly don’t know the kind of real art you can buy for that much money. By the way it’s ‘you’re’ not your. You clearly dont understand the art world at all. But hey, your skinback, so i dont need to expand on anything mr pedantic t**t troll.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by sevrin on Mar 13, 2023 10:47:46 GMT 1, Just my opinion. would you pay 8k after fees for a piece you can get many other places for £750 or even less? doesn't make sense! I’ve consigned hundreds of things to auction and every so often a piece of tat I sell goes for 10-20x its true value, I could share dozens of examples. Free posters that are selling for £200 on eBay end up selling for £5K. No conspiracy just misinformed buyers or collectors with more money than sense. It’s the auction game, for every piece that goes to the moon one will get no bids or sell for reserve. Of course shill bidding happens especially in lower tier auction houses but it’s far less common than people think. In terms of how much this result will move the market it may add a hundred pounds or so to the value of these short term but many collectors will see it as a crazy outlier rather than a new bench mark. There are 5000 of these out there so very difficult to control the market especially when the value of Invader editions is falling. You may well be right Billy, I really should not credit everyone with having common sense and rather too much money . I guess the old adage of "A fool and his money are easily parted" may be quite pertinent in this instance after all!
Just my opinion. would you pay 8k after fees for a piece you can get many other places for £750 or even less? doesn't make sense! I’ve consigned hundreds of things to auction and every so often a piece of tat I sell goes for 10-20x its true value, I could share dozens of examples. Free posters that are selling for £200 on eBay end up selling for £5K. No conspiracy just misinformed buyers or collectors with more money than sense. It’s the auction game, for every piece that goes to the moon one will get no bids or sell for reserve. Of course shill bidding happens especially in lower tier auction houses but it’s far less common than people think. In terms of how much this result will move the market it may add a hundred pounds or so to the value of these short term but many collectors will see it as a crazy outlier rather than a new bench mark. There are 5000 of these out there so very difficult to control the market especially when the value of Invader editions is falling. You may well be right Billy, I really should not credit everyone with having common sense and rather too much money . I guess the old adage of "A fool and his money are easily parted" may be quite pertinent in this instance after all!
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Christie's Art Auctions , by its all about me on Mar 13, 2023 12:08:07 GMT 1, I'm wondering if certain collectors buy just from Christie's. So compared to people buy cars only from Porsche. So these collectors might wait until the right piece from the right artist turns up at Christies and they just want to own it and not wait until it turns up for a lower price at a different auction house. Or perhaps they are just too posh to use e-bay.
There's a lot of snobbery when it comes to art.
I'm wondering if certain collectors buy just from Christie's. So compared to people buy cars only from Porsche. So these collectors might wait until the right piece from the right artist turns up at Christies and they just want to own it and not wait until it turns up for a lower price at a different auction house. Or perhaps they are just too posh to use e-bay. There's a lot of snobbery when it comes to art.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by billybob1969 on Mar 13, 2023 12:50:26 GMT 1, I'm wondering if certain collectors buy just from Christie's. So compared to people buy cars only from Porsche. So these collectors might wait until the right piece from the right artist turns up at Christies and they just want to own it and not wait until it turns up for a lower price at a different auction house. Or perhaps they are just too posh to use e-bay. There's a lot of snobbery when it comes to art. This. Many people like to be told what to like, so if it’s an auction curated by Christie’s it must be good stuff, no thought needed.
I'm wondering if certain collectors buy just from Christie's. So compared to people buy cars only from Porsche. So these collectors might wait until the right piece from the right artist turns up at Christies and they just want to own it and not wait until it turns up for a lower price at a different auction house. Or perhaps they are just too posh to use e-bay. There's a lot of snobbery when it comes to art. This. Many people like to be told what to like, so if it’s an auction curated by Christie’s it must be good stuff, no thought needed.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by topper on Mar 13, 2023 13:04:16 GMT 1, To be fair, provenance does matter if you're ever planning to resell.
'Bought it on eBay' is never going to appeal as much as a Christies sticker on the back, with all the checks that brings.
Having said that paying 10 times mare that something costs on eBay should ring alarm bells!
To be fair, provenance does matter if you're ever planning to resell.
'Bought it on eBay' is never going to appeal as much as a Christies sticker on the back, with all the checks that brings.
Having said that paying 10 times mare that something costs on eBay should ring alarm bells!
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sevrin
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February 2022
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Christie's Art Auctions , by sevrin on Mar 13, 2023 13:08:39 GMT 1, Or perhaps they are just too posh to use e-bay. There's a lot of snobbery when it comes to art. This. Many people like to be told what to like, so if it’s an auction curated by Christie’s it must be good stuff, no thought needed. I will definitely be consigning all my prints for sale through Christie's from now on! by this time next year i'll be a millionaire!
Or perhaps they are just too posh to use e-bay. There's a lot of snobbery when it comes to art. This. Many people like to be told what to like, so if it’s an auction curated by Christie’s it must be good stuff, no thought needed. I will definitely be consigning all my prints for sale through Christie's from now on! by this time next year i'll be a millionaire!
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