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Christie's Art Auctions , by JFCC on Mar 14, 2023 16:51:29 GMT 1, Interesting Auction today, remember on the Banksy pieces that sold you will need to add the import VAT (on most of them), the ARR and the VAT on the premium on all of them as the website only shows hammer plus premium ex VAT at 26%.
As an example Christ with Shopping Bags hammered at ยฃ75k and so the buyer will have paid ยฃ105.5k which is quite a difference to that shown.
Summary is a slight uptick on signed stuff, unsigned a bit mixed with some slightly oversold pieces not meeting reserve, in what was quiet bidding in a very subdued market especially following the recent banking news. Bargains were the 3 Barely Legal LA prints.
Feel sorry for the seller of the two Kates who didn't get any bids, he paid ยฃ201k in September 2021.
Interesting Auction today, remember on the Banksy pieces that sold you will need to add the import VAT (on most of them), the ARR and the VAT on the premium on all of them as the website only shows hammer plus premium ex VAT at 26%.
As an example Christ with Shopping Bags hammered at ยฃ75k and so the buyer will have paid ยฃ105.5k which is quite a difference to that shown.
Summary is a slight uptick on signed stuff, unsigned a bit mixed with some slightly oversold pieces not meeting reserve, in what was quiet bidding in a very subdued market especially following the recent banking news. Bargains were the 3 Barely Legal LA prints.
Feel sorry for the seller of the two Kates who didn't get any bids, he paid ยฃ201k in September 2021.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by cemltz on Mar 14, 2023 16:52:52 GMT 1, To be fair, I did contact my Christies person to see if they would offer any incentives to hit the first bid/reserve on the Banksquiat. Got a stern reminder that "...all bidders with us are subject to the same terms regardless of when they place their bid in a sale..."
It's these cycles in the market when the 25-30% friction cost of auctions becomes significant.
To be fair, I did contact my Christies person to see if they would offer any incentives to hit the first bid/reserve on the Banksquiat. Got a stern reminder that "...all bidders with us are subject to the same terms regardless of when they place their bid in a sale..." It's these cycles in the market when the 25-30% friction cost of auctions becomes significant.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Richy Rich on Mar 14, 2023 16:54:22 GMT 1, Looks like we're close to being back to the days of ยฃ10k basement level unsigned prints. I can hear the bedroom dealers rubbing their hands with glee....
On an unrelated note I'm looking for unsigned Banksy prints around ยฃ10k for my 'collection'
Looks like we're close to being back to the days of ยฃ10k basement level unsigned prints. I can hear the bedroom dealers rubbing their hands with glee....
On an unrelated note I'm looking for unsigned Banksy prints around ยฃ10k for my 'collection'
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Christie's Art Auctions , by The Italian One on Mar 14, 2023 17:10:01 GMT 1, never thought would be cheaper to buy on Christie's Auctions than privately on here!!
never thought would be cheaper to buy on Christie's Auctions than privately on here!!
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Christie's Art Auctions , by from mjolnir on Mar 14, 2023 17:10:11 GMT 1, All over the place, again. Shrigleys you can buy for ยฃ5k going for ยฃ7.5k...Invader catching some bids with Kung Fu going for ยฃ12k and 3D Little Big Space going for ยฃ7.5k (!!!)...a Lady Gaga album you can still buy at source for $2.5K going for ยฃ6k... ...and Banksquiat failing to get its ยฃ55k reserve... Christies auctions are a scene these days. Not to mention the really crappy Figgis print going for ยฃ6k (700eu last year) and the two Empresses going for ยฃ5k and 7k when the full set didn't sell. What a world
All over the place, again. Shrigleys you can buy for ยฃ5k going for ยฃ7.5k...Invader catching some bids with Kung Fu going for ยฃ12k and 3D Little Big Space going for ยฃ7.5k (!!!)...a Lady Gaga album you can still buy at source for $2.5K going for ยฃ6k... ...and Banksquiat failing to get its ยฃ55k reserve... Christies auctions are a scene these days. Not to mention the really crappy Figgis print going for ยฃ6k (700eu last year) and the two Empresses going for ยฃ5k and 7k when the full set didn't sell. What a world
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Christie's Art Auctions , by orchid on Mar 14, 2023 17:10:46 GMT 1, Sone poor results. Phillips do these sort of auctions better with the contemporary/ultra contemporary editions sector, different audience.
Sone poor results. Phillips do these sort of auctions better with the contemporary/ultra contemporary editions sector, different audience.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by drbf on Mar 14, 2023 18:07:54 GMT 1, Interesting Auction today, remember on the Banksy pieces that sold you will need to add the import VAT (on most of them), the ARR and the VAT on the premium on all of them as the website only shows hammer plus premium ex VAT at 26%. As an example Christ with Shopping Bags hammered at ยฃ75k and so the buyer will have paid ยฃ105.5k which is quite a difference to that shown. Summary is a slight uptick on signed stuff, unsigned a bit mixed with some slightly oversold pieces not meeting reserve, in what was quiet bidding in a very subdued market especially following the recent banking news. Bargains were the 3 Barely Legal LA prints. Feel sorry for the seller of the two Kates who didn't get any bids, he paid ยฃ201k in September 2021. These two Kates did not sell in the Phillips auction last month!
Interesting Auction today, remember on the Banksy pieces that sold you will need to add the import VAT (on most of them), the ARR and the VAT on the premium on all of them as the website only shows hammer plus premium ex VAT at 26%. As an example Christ with Shopping Bags hammered at ยฃ75k and so the buyer will have paid ยฃ105.5k which is quite a difference to that shown. Summary is a slight uptick on signed stuff, unsigned a bit mixed with some slightly oversold pieces not meeting reserve, in what was quiet bidding in a very subdued market especially following the recent banking news. Bargains were the 3 Barely Legal LA prints. Feel sorry for the seller of the two Kates who didn't get any bids, he paid ยฃ201k in September 2021. These two Kates did not sell in the Phillips auction last month!
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Christie's Art Auctions , by JFCC on Mar 14, 2023 18:21:28 GMT 1, Interesting Auction today, remember on the Banksy pieces that sold you will need to add the import VAT (on most of them), the ARR and the VAT on the premium on all of them as the website only shows hammer plus premium ex VAT at 26%. As an example Christ with Shopping Bags hammered at ยฃ75k and so the buyer will have paid ยฃ105.5k which is quite a difference to that shown. Summary is a slight uptick on signed stuff, unsigned a bit mixed with some slightly oversold pieces not meeting reserve, in what was quiet bidding in a very subdued market especially following the recent banking news. Bargains were the 3 Barely Legal LA prints. Feel sorry for the seller of the two Kates who didn't get any bids, he paid ยฃ201k in September 2021. These two Kates did not sell in the Phillips auction last month! You are correct they were at Phillips in October last year...really strange that the seller has had to part with them so quickly after purchasing them at what would be a sizeable loss!!
I also think we are still some way from ยฃ10k prints TBF and this auction I think will show a slight overall uptick in the general pricing. Just my view!
Interesting Auction today, remember on the Banksy pieces that sold you will need to add the import VAT (on most of them), the ARR and the VAT on the premium on all of them as the website only shows hammer plus premium ex VAT at 26%. As an example Christ with Shopping Bags hammered at ยฃ75k and so the buyer will have paid ยฃ105.5k which is quite a difference to that shown. Summary is a slight uptick on signed stuff, unsigned a bit mixed with some slightly oversold pieces not meeting reserve, in what was quiet bidding in a very subdued market especially following the recent banking news. Bargains were the 3 Barely Legal LA prints. Feel sorry for the seller of the two Kates who didn't get any bids, he paid ยฃ201k in September 2021. These two Kates did not sell in the Phillips auction last month! You are correct they were at Phillips in October last year...really strange that the seller has had to part with them so quickly after purchasing them at what would be a sizeable loss!! I also think we are still some way from ยฃ10k prints TBF and this auction I think will show a slight overall uptick in the general pricing. Just my view!
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Rude Copper on Mar 14, 2023 19:23:44 GMT 1, The hangover of 12 years of cheap money is about to kick in, there will be a lot of art being sold imo, banksy, has been touted as being a solid investment, will fare worse than most imo
The hangover of 12 years of cheap money is about to kick in, there will be a lot of art being sold imo, banksy, has been touted as being a solid investment, will fare worse than most imo
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Richy Rich on Mar 14, 2023 19:37:25 GMT 1, These two Kates did not sell in the Phillips auction last month! You are correct they were at Phillips in October last year...really strange that the seller has had to part with them so quickly after purchasing them at what would be a sizeable loss!! I also think we are still some way from ยฃ10k prints TBF and this auction I think will show a slight overall uptick in the general pricing. Just my view! Thereโs already a WSM on here for sale for ยฃ12k ish so weโre not a million miles away.
These two Kates did not sell in the Phillips auction last month! You are correct they were at Phillips in October last year...really strange that the seller has had to part with them so quickly after purchasing them at what would be a sizeable loss!! I also think we are still some way from ยฃ10k prints TBF and this auction I think will show a slight overall uptick in the general pricing. Just my view! Thereโs already a WSM on here for sale for ยฃ12k ish so weโre not a million miles away.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by JFCC on Mar 14, 2023 19:45:51 GMT 1, You are correct they were at Phillips in October last year...really strange that the seller has had to part with them so quickly after purchasing them at what would be a sizeable loss!! I also think we are still some way from ยฃ10k prints TBF and this auction I think will show a slight overall uptick in the general pricing. Just my view! Thereโs already a WSM on here for sale for ยฃ12k ish so weโre not a million miles away. Wow, well if thats the case can you send me the link as I may well buy that to move it on...unless it's been screwed up and has blue tack on the corners!! Love a bargain!!
You are correct they were at Phillips in October last year...really strange that the seller has had to part with them so quickly after purchasing them at what would be a sizeable loss!! I also think we are still some way from ยฃ10k prints TBF and this auction I think will show a slight overall uptick in the general pricing. Just my view! Thereโs already a WSM on here for sale for ยฃ12k ish so weโre not a million miles away. Wow, well if thats the case can you send me the link as I may well buy that to move it on...unless it's been screwed up and has blue tack on the corners!! Love a bargain!!
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Richy Rich on Mar 14, 2023 19:52:18 GMT 1, Thereโs already a WSM on here for sale for ยฃ12k ish so weโre not a million miles away. Wow, well if thats the case can you send me the link as I may well buy that to move it on...unless it's been screwed up and has blue tack on the corners!! Love a bargain!! Itโs over in the Banksy wanted section for some reason. Itโs Stateside. $15k so a touch over ยฃ12k
Thereโs already a WSM on here for sale for ยฃ12k ish so weโre not a million miles away. Wow, well if thats the case can you send me the link as I may well buy that to move it on...unless it's been screwed up and has blue tack on the corners!! Love a bargain!! Itโs over in the Banksy wanted section for some reason. Itโs Stateside. $15k so a touch over ยฃ12k
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Majestic on Mar 14, 2023 20:57:22 GMT 1, What was the final 'all in' price on the drones, including fees etc?
Thanks
What was the final 'all in' price on the drones, including fees etc?
Thanks
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Georgie Poppit on Mar 14, 2023 21:06:40 GMT 1, Just seen the results. Bad day for Banksy prints and looks like low confidence could be around for a while. A good time to pick up that Banksy you always wanted - one day you may see this dip as an opportunity missed.
Just seen the results. Bad day for Banksy prints and looks like low confidence could be around for a while. A good time to pick up that Banksy you always wanted - one day you may see this dip as an opportunity missed.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by JFCC on Mar 14, 2023 21:34:33 GMT 1, What was the final 'all in' price on the drones, including fees etc? Thanks The all in price Inc import duty, premium, VAT and ARR was ยฃ84.6k
What was the final 'all in' price on the drones, including fees etc? Thanks The all in price Inc import duty, premium, VAT and ARR was ยฃ84.6k
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Pafori on Mar 14, 2023 22:42:58 GMT 1, What's the logic in having so many Banksy's in a online only auction that is titled 'Contemporary Edition: London' ?
I wonder if too few people saw this auction, if having so many Banksy's in one place (I counted 28) undermined buyer perception of scarcity, and without in-person bidding, was energy missing?
Not trying to diminish the current underlying economic climate, just seems this auction had poor market positioning given the times.
I'm interested in others' comments who have more experience?
What's the logic in having so many Banksy's in a online only auction that is titled 'Contemporary Edition: London' ?
I wonder if too few people saw this auction, if having so many Banksy's in one place (I counted 28) undermined buyer perception of scarcity, and without in-person bidding, was energy missing?
Not trying to diminish the current underlying economic climate, just seems this auction had poor market positioning given the times.
I'm interested in others' comments who have more experience?
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Dice on Mar 15, 2023 8:22:39 GMT 1, Itโs funny world. If the drones were painted onto canvas in an edition of 50 they would be selling for hundreds of thousands.
Hand painted edition of 50 with COA this does feel like a bit of a bargain.
Itโs funny world. If the drones were painted onto canvas in an edition of 50 they would be selling for hundreds of thousands.
Hand painted edition of 50 with COA this does feel like a bit of a bargain.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Carl Cashman Art on Mar 15, 2023 11:02:44 GMT 1, Itโs funny world. If the drones were painted onto canvas in an edition of 50 they would be selling for hundreds of thousands. Hand painted edition of 50 with COA this does feel like a bit of a bargain. 50 sets is quite a lot though, I remember the grappling hooks not doing great in the first few auctions and they are proper museum grade works of Art. If the drones are the same as what was at The Walled off, they are pretty small... they are quality though.
Itโs funny world. If the drones were painted onto canvas in an edition of 50 they would be selling for hundreds of thousands. Hand painted edition of 50 with COA this does feel like a bit of a bargain. 50 sets is quite a lot though, I remember the grappling hooks not doing great in the first few auctions and they are proper museum grade works of Art. If the drones are the same as what was at The Walled off, they are pretty small... they are quality though.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by netforeignquotient on Mar 16, 2023 0:06:13 GMT 1, One Banksquiat sells for 113k USD last month at Phillips and then this one at Christie's doesn't even hit 55k GBP/66k USD. What changed so rapidly?
One Banksquiat sells for 113k USD last month at Phillips and then this one at Christie's doesn't even hit 55k GBP/66k USD. What changed so rapidly?
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Christie's Art Auctions , by withnail69 on Mar 20, 2023 11:25:38 GMT 1, What's the logic in having so many Banksy's in a online only auction that is titled 'Contemporary Edition: London' ? I wonder if too few people saw this auction, if having so many Banksy's in one place (I counted 28) undermined buyer perception of scarcity, and without in-person bidding, was energy missing? Not trying to diminish the current underlying economic climate, just seems this auction had poor market positioning given the times. I'm interested in others' comments who have more experience? I sold at this equivalent auction in March 2022. I'm so I glad I did now. My only regret is not selling in 2021. Christies seem to do zero advertising. Their comms to sellers and pretty much everyone else is awful. I'm talking months just for an email reply and right up until the hammer strike I was being pressured to lower my reserve which I didn't and the sale just about made reserve. I don't understand why these online only auctions aren't advertised more in the national press
What's the logic in having so many Banksy's in a online only auction that is titled 'Contemporary Edition: London' ? I wonder if too few people saw this auction, if having so many Banksy's in one place (I counted 28) undermined buyer perception of scarcity, and without in-person bidding, was energy missing? Not trying to diminish the current underlying economic climate, just seems this auction had poor market positioning given the times. I'm interested in others' comments who have more experience? I sold at this equivalent auction in March 2022. I'm so I glad I did now. My only regret is not selling in 2021. Christies seem to do zero advertising. Their comms to sellers and pretty much everyone else is awful. I'm talking months just for an email reply and right up until the hammer strike I was being pressured to lower my reserve which I didn't and the sale just about made reserve. I don't understand why these online only auctions aren't advertised more in the national press
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Manty on Mar 20, 2023 12:05:40 GMT 1, What's the logic in having so many Banksy's in a online only auction that is titled 'Contemporary Edition: London' ? I wonder if too few people saw this auction, if having so many Banksy's in one place (I counted 28) undermined buyer perception of scarcity, and without in-person bidding, was energy missing? Not trying to diminish the current underlying economic climate, just seems this auction had poor market positioning given the times. I'm interested in others' comments who have more experience? I sold at this equivalent auction in March 2022. I'm so I glad I did now. My only regret is not selling in 2021. Christies seem to do zero advertising. Their comms to sellers and pretty much everyone else is awful. I'm talking months just for an email reply and right up until the hammer strike I was being pressured to lower my reserve which I didn't and the sale just about made reserve. I don't understand why these online only auctions aren't advertised more in the national press
Profit and lazy cash cow for them. They are not adding value but are diluting
What's the logic in having so many Banksy's in a online only auction that is titled 'Contemporary Edition: London' ? I wonder if too few people saw this auction, if having so many Banksy's in one place (I counted 28) undermined buyer perception of scarcity, and without in-person bidding, was energy missing? Not trying to diminish the current underlying economic climate, just seems this auction had poor market positioning given the times. I'm interested in others' comments who have more experience? I sold at this equivalent auction in March 2022. I'm so I glad I did now. My only regret is not selling in 2021. Christies seem to do zero advertising. Their comms to sellers and pretty much everyone else is awful. I'm talking months just for an email reply and right up until the hammer strike I was being pressured to lower my reserve which I didn't and the sale just about made reserve. I don't understand why these online only auctions aren't advertised more in the national press Profit and lazy cash cow for them. They are not adding value but are diluting
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Christie's Art Auctions , by adknow on Sept 13, 2023 19:43:43 GMT 1, I was considering buying a new Banksy print and a friend send me a link to an ongoing Christie's auction.
onlineonly.christies.com/s/contemporary-edition/lots/3309?page=2&sortby=LotNumber
They had a total of 17 prints for sale, with some excellent pieces. The starting bid prices seem to be fairly competitive. Anyone bought from them in the past?
Do you know the upsides and downsides from buying from them? Would love to hear people's opinion.
I was considering buying a new Banksy print and a friend send me a link to an ongoing Christie's auction. onlineonly.christies.com/s/contemporary-edition/lots/3309?page=2&sortby=LotNumberThey had a total of 17 prints for sale, with some excellent pieces. The starting bid prices seem to be fairly competitive. Anyone bought from them in the past? Do you know the upsides and downsides from buying from them? Would love to hear people's opinion.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Sundowner on Sept 13, 2023 19:52:58 GMT 1, Christieโs are a very reputable auction house and Iโve bought from them many times and never had an issue. I think some of the prices are reasonable, some are ambitious in the current market (even at the low estimate) when you factor in that you will have to add c35% to the hammer price for Buyers Premium, VAT and ARR when you buy.
Christieโs are a very reputable auction house and Iโve bought from them many times and never had an issue. I think some of the prices are reasonable, some are ambitious in the current market (even at the low estimate) when you factor in that you will have to add c35% to the hammer price for Buyers Premium, VAT and ARR when you buy.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Pete the Post on Sept 13, 2023 21:15:01 GMT 1, Christieโs are a very reputable auction house and Iโve bought from them many times and never had an issue. I think some of the prices are reasonable, some are ambitious in the current market (even at the low estimate) when you factor in that you will have to add c35% to the hammer price for Buyers Premium, VAT and ARR when you buy. I chucked a bid on something earlier, they now have a little calculator to work all that out when you bid.
It is also possible its been there years and i only just noticed!
Christieโs are a very reputable auction house and Iโve bought from them many times and never had an issue. I think some of the prices are reasonable, some are ambitious in the current market (even at the low estimate) when you factor in that you will have to add c35% to the hammer price for Buyers Premium, VAT and ARR when you buy. I chucked a bid on something earlier, they now have a little calculator to work all that out when you bid. It is also possible its been there years and i only just noticed!
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Christie's Art Auctions , by robo on Sept 13, 2023 21:33:49 GMT 1, Some great pieces in this sale including 3 excellent Bridget Rileys.
Some great pieces in this sale including 3 excellent Bridget Rileys.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by concrete jungle on Sept 13, 2023 22:26:19 GMT 1, Agreed - great auction. Loads of top quality pieces - very little filler. Think (for the most part) estimates look reasonable on the works and artists I know. Agree the Bridget Rileyโs are a highlight - love that Ra (inverted)๐ฌ
Agreed - great auction. Loads of top quality pieces - very little filler. Think (for the most part) estimates look reasonable on the works and artists I know. Agree the Bridget Rileyโs are a highlight - love that Ra (inverted)๐ฌ
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Christie's Art Auctions , by met on Sept 14, 2023 3:40:50 GMT 1, I was considering buying a new Banksy print and a friend send me a link to an ongoing Christie's auction. onlineonly.christies.com/s/contemporary-edition/lots/3309?page=2&sortby=LotNumberThey had a total of 17 prints for sale, with some excellent pieces. The starting bid prices seem to be fairly competitive. Anyone bought from them in the past? Do you know the upsides and downsides from buying from them? Would love to hear people's opinion.
1. Leaving aside purchasing directly from source, it would be difficult to get better provenance than for an auction item coming from Christie's or Sotheby's โ even if it is but a mere online‑only sale.
The flipside is that there is often a premium attached to such desirable provenance.
All other things being equal, including any condition issues, you may very well be able to secure the same editioned artworks more cheaply at second or thirdโtier auction houses. Or at frankly-dodgy auction houses or other platforms like eBay, where much greater caution and enhanced verification checks become necessary.
2. If serious about any of the Christie's lots, make sure to attend one of the viewing days at 8 King Street, London SW1Y 6QT*.
Relying solely on condition reports can be unwise in my opinion, especially if you have the opportunity to see the relevant lots in person.
3. Should you decide to register to bid, do your pricing due diligence beforehand on any artworks of interest.
Then set maximum bid limits for yourself. It is worth writing these figures down on a sheet of paper, and undertaking to not exceed them.
Provided you've done your homework thoroughly on recent sale results for identical or comparable editioned pieces (in the current market, stick to auction results from the last 12 months), your maximum bid limits should normally be defensible.
What you should seek to expressly avoid is becoming emotional while bidding. This easily occurs in the heat of the moment.
When others are competing against us for the same lots, our egos can interfere with the rational decision-making process. We then risk "winning" stupidly, by paying above the odds, instead of walking away if the bidding goes beyond our preset limits.
4. As already referred to in this thread, remember to add 35โ36% on top of each bid you make.
The final amount due to the auction house will be the hammer price, plus the buyer's premium of 26%, VAT at 20% on the buyer's premium, and the droit de suite / artist's resale royalty. You may also need to factor in separate shipping charges.
See section D of the Christie's Conditions of Sale*.
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Scanning this Contemporary Edition sale, what strikes me most is the following:
The two Josh Sperling items (lots 4* and 11*) and the Javier Calleja diptych (lot 135*) have already received bidding at levels in excess of their artistic value.
And there are still two weeks left to go.
Sadly, that leaves me out of the running for those pieces.
Just can't compete with the highโrollin' sneaker boyz. All I can do is eat their dust.
Lot 4
Lot 11
Lot 135
I was considering buying a new Banksy print and a friend send me a link to an ongoing Christie's auction. onlineonly.christies.com/s/contemporary-edition/lots/3309?page=2&sortby=LotNumberThey had a total of 17 prints for sale, with some excellent pieces. The starting bid prices seem to be fairly competitive. Anyone bought from them in the past? Do you know the upsides and downsides from buying from them? Would love to hear people's opinion. 1. Leaving aside purchasing directly from source, it would be difficult to get better provenance than for an auction item coming from Chris tie's or Soth eby's โ even if it is but a mere online‑only sale. The flipside is that there is often a premium attached to such desirable provenance. All other things being equal, including any condition issues, you may very well be able to secure the same editioned artworks more cheaply at second or thirdโtier auction houses. Or at frankly-dodgy auction houses or other platforms like eB ay, where much greater caution and enhanced verification checks become necessary. 2. If serious about any of the Chris tie's lots, make sure to attend one of the viewing days at 8 King Street, Lon don SW1Y 6QT *. Relying solely on condition reports can be unwise in my opinion, especially if you have the opportunity to see the relevant lots in person. 3. Should you decide to register to bid, do your pricing due diligence beforehand on any artworks of interest. Then set maximum bid limits for yourself. It is worth writing these figures down on a sheet of paper, and undertaking to not exceed them. Provided you've done your homework thoroughly on recent sale results for identical or comparable editioned pieces (in the current market, stick to auction results from the last 12 months), your maximum bid limits should normally be defensible. What you should seek to expressly avoid is becoming emotional while bidding. This easily occurs in the heat of the moment. When others are competing against us for the same lots, our egos can interfere with the rational decision-making process. We then risk "winning" stupidly, by paying above the odds, instead of walking away if the bidding goes beyond our preset limits. 4. As already referred to in this thread, remember to add 35โ36% on top of each bid you make. The final amount due to the auction house will be the hammer price, plus the buyer's premium of 26%, VAT at 20% on the buyer's premium, and the droit de suite / artist's resale royalty. You may also need to factor in separate shipping charges. See section D of the Chris tie's Conditions of Sale *. __________ Scanning this Contemporary Edition sale, what strikes me most is the following: The two Josh Sperling items (lots 4 * and 11 *) and the Javier Calleja diptych (lot 135 *) have already received bidding at levels in excess of their artistic value. And there are still two weeks left to go. Sadly, that leaves me out of the running for those pieces. Just can't compete with the highโrollin' sneaker boyz. All I can do is eat their dust. Lot 4Lot 11Lot 135
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sevrin
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Christie's Art Auctions , by sevrin on Sept 20, 2023 21:21:39 GMT 1, Some fantastic pieces there, Thanks for posting!
Some fantastic pieces there, Thanks for posting!
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