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Large collection needs to be reduced, by Armagideon Times on Aug 21, 2020 8:33:28 GMT 1, edited and ended, thanks to all the people who contacted me directly Bomber Boy print sold Eff Off sold Bomber Boy Canvas added for clarity, as many questions about paint boy being for sale, see my other posts for some nice pieces for sale
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by Born Again on Aug 21, 2020 8:35:11 GMT 1, good morning, i was thinking this morning to ask the members, thoughts on selling mystery tubes, they would be various values depending on the contents, one of my ideas is that new collectors and people wanting to put some good art on the walls for interior deco etc, so as an example a tube for ยฃ300 would contain a print or prints with a current value of more than ยฃ300, i guess the dilemma i have is, i have a value on my art which some may think is expensive, but i want to try and use a factor based on current values and purchase prices, only to be fair to the purchaser, like a lot of us i bought more then i could ever display and as times change and walls become less, im feeling i may be able to let some go to new owners who would do each piece justice and give it space on a wall to be admired and loved any thoughts and advice will be more than welcome
Iโd be keen. Would there be a hint of the artist/s who are inside the tube?
good morning, i was thinking this morning to ask the members, thoughts on selling mystery tubes, they would be various values depending on the contents, one of my ideas is that new collectors and people wanting to put some good art on the walls for interior deco etc, so as an example a tube for ยฃ300 would contain a print or prints with a current value of more than ยฃ300, i guess the dilemma i have is, i have a value on my art which some may think is expensive, but i want to try and use a factor based on current values and purchase prices, only to be fair to the purchaser, like a lot of us i bought more then i could ever display and as times change and walls become less, im feeling i may be able to let some go to new owners who would do each piece justice and give it space on a wall to be admired and loved any thoughts and advice will be more than welcome Iโd be keen. Would there be a hint of the artist/s who are inside the tube?
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by theonlytexaspete on Aug 21, 2020 8:48:02 GMT 1, Iโd be intrigued to know whatโs available? ๐ Thanks Alexei
Iโd be intrigued to know whatโs available? ๐ Thanks Alexei
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by Monkey on Aug 21, 2020 9:27:07 GMT 1, I like the idea of surprise tubes! If multiple prints, maybe you can group them by "themes" or styles and let clues here about what's inside when you put them for sale As a collector, what I'm more interested in is "will those fit with what I already have at home ?"
I like the idea of surprise tubes! If multiple prints, maybe you can group them by "themes" or styles and let clues here about what's inside when you put them for sale As a collector, what I'm more interested in is "will those fit with what I already have at home ?"
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by duffer31 on Aug 21, 2020 9:50:39 GMT 1, I remember a guy doing something similar years ago on another forum. It didnโt end well, especially when someone ended up with a load of promotional Xbox 360 posters lol.
Maybe list what you have. If people are interested theyโll message you.
I remember a guy doing something similar years ago on another forum. It didnโt end well, especially when someone ended up with a load of promotional Xbox 360 posters lol.
Maybe list what you have. If people are interested theyโll message you.
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by Adcua on Aug 21, 2020 9:57:26 GMT 1, Like the idea of mystery tubes if your be disclosing which artists, but if its just a way to shift everything you've posted for sale on here then can't see many being interested as we've all already had the opportunity to purchase and passed.
Like the idea of mystery tubes if your be disclosing which artists, but if its just a way to shift everything you've posted for sale on here then can't see many being interested as we've all already had the opportunity to purchase and passed.
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by Armagideon Times on Aug 21, 2020 10:28:00 GMT 1, all good replies, liking the responses, understand each of your points, i guess on some its a balance of what it cost 8 years ago, and what would you let it go for now, for example, if it was ยฃ100 8 years ago and current values are 200-250 depending where you get the values from (that's another subject) and after sitting down and thinking, hey, i can let some of my stuff go for ยฃ150, ive made a bit on it and someones getting a good deal, im not in it to rip people off, all my art is taken care of, and if any of them was damaged, id not sell them, id rather give away, if its a rubbish idea then ill not down the road,
all good replies, liking the responses, understand each of your points, i guess on some its a balance of what it cost 8 years ago, and what would you let it go for now, for example, if it was ยฃ100 8 years ago and current values are 200-250 depending where you get the values from (that's another subject) and after sitting down and thinking, hey, i can let some of my stuff go for ยฃ150, ive made a bit on it and someones getting a good deal, im not in it to rip people off, all my art is taken care of, and if any of them was damaged, id not sell them, id rather give away, if its a rubbish idea then ill not down the road,
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by Feels Good Man 84 on Aug 21, 2020 10:44:42 GMT 1, Definitely would have to see a list of artist before I was in
Definitely would have to see a list of artist before I was in
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by theonlytexaspete on Aug 21, 2020 10:47:02 GMT 1, all good replies, liking the responses, understand each of your points, i guess on some its a balance of what it cost 8 years ago, and what would you let it go for now, for example, if it was ยฃ100 8 years ago and current values are 200-250 depending where you get the values from (that's another subject) and after sitting down and thinking, hey, i can let some of my stuff go for ยฃ150, ive made a bit on it and someones getting a good deal, im not in it to rip people off, all my art is taken care of, and if any of them was damaged, id not sell them, id rather give away, if its a rubbish idea then ill not down the road,
If you had a list of artists Iโd be in for buying a mystery tube? So we can see potentially what we might get and as stated above not a tube of promo Xbox posters ๐คช Thanks Alexei
all good replies, liking the responses, understand each of your points, i guess on some its a balance of what it cost 8 years ago, and what would you let it go for now, for example, if it was ยฃ100 8 years ago and current values are 200-250 depending where you get the values from (that's another subject) and after sitting down and thinking, hey, i can let some of my stuff go for ยฃ150, ive made a bit on it and someones getting a good deal, im not in it to rip people off, all my art is taken care of, and if any of them was damaged, id not sell them, id rather give away, if its a rubbish idea then ill not down the road, If you had a list of artists Iโd be in for buying a mystery tube? So we can see potentially what we might get and as stated above not a tube of promo Xbox posters ๐คช Thanks Alexei
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by Armagideon Times on Aug 21, 2020 10:47:11 GMT 1, Aeelhra ben naz Ben Slow copyKat David Fox Dom Pattinson DotMasters ernest zacharevic Fin Dac fintan magee Gee Vaucher goin Grafter icy & sot Jamie Hewlett Jamie Reid Jeff Gillette jeremy jones John Doe K-Guy Lucy Mclauchlan Martin Whatson Mr Brainwash PEZ Roamcouch Rone sandra chevrier Scott King Shane Turner SKURKTUR's Snik Tim Doyle
Aeelhra ben naz Ben Slow copyKat David Fox Dom Pattinson DotMasters ernest zacharevic Fin Dac fintan magee Gee Vaucher goin Grafter icy & sot Jamie Hewlett Jamie Reid Jeff Gillette jeremy jones John Doe K-Guy Lucy Mclauchlan Martin Whatson Mr Brainwash PEZ Roamcouch Rone sandra chevrier Scott King Shane Turner SKURKTUR's Snik Tim Doyle
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by Armagideon Times on Aug 21, 2020 10:47:53 GMT 1, no xbox posters in my collection
no xbox posters in my collection
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 10:53:05 GMT 1, So essentially a lucky dip? Pay ยฃ300 a you might get a ยฃ1000 Whatson? And worse case scenario you still end up with a print. Reckon youโd get a few takers on here especially if you list which prints might be available.
So essentially a lucky dip? Pay ยฃ300 a you might get a ยฃ1000 Whatson? And worse case scenario you still end up with a print. Reckon youโd get a few takers on here especially if you list which prints might be available.
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by rockbeer on Aug 21, 2020 11:10:29 GMT 1, If I was feeling flush and reckless I might be tempted to spring a small sum, say up to ยฃ50, on a mystery tube, just for the fun of it. But to be honest (and I know this definitely isn't true for everyone on here), ยฃ300 represents a significant expenditure for me and I wouldn't dream of throwing that sort of money at an unknown purchase that I might not want to keep and wouldn't necessarily be able to resell.
Plus, there are artists on your list I would definitely be interested in but others I just as definitely wouldn't. I would only be setting myself up for disappointment if I sent you ยฃ300 hoping for a Vaucher or Reid or Gillette but ended up with some dreadful PEZ piece. (No offence intended to PEZ fans but his work really doesn't do it for me!)
The thing about art values is that any given piece is only ever worth what someone is willing to pay. At the levels you're talking about, It looks like a doubtful strategy to simply decide an appropriate price for something on behalf of your purchasers โย you'd surely need to negotiate it with them, or put yourself at risk of causing severe disappointment and making yourself extremely unpopular.
I agree with others - tell us what you've got and what you want for it, and let us decide for ourselves. Or at the very least, let us give you a list to choose from. I might be willing to take the chance if I could specify five or six artists I was interested in.
I would, however, be very curious to know which Vauchers, Reids, Gillettes, Hewletts and McLauchlans you're offering โย along with possibly one or two others.
If I was feeling flush and reckless I might be tempted to spring a small sum, say up to ยฃ50, on a mystery tube, just for the fun of it. But to be honest (and I know this definitely isn't true for everyone on here), ยฃ300 represents a significant expenditure for me and I wouldn't dream of throwing that sort of money at an unknown purchase that I might not want to keep and wouldn't necessarily be able to resell.
Plus, there are artists on your list I would definitely be interested in but others I just as definitely wouldn't. I would only be setting myself up for disappointment if I sent you ยฃ300 hoping for a Vaucher or Reid or Gillette but ended up with some dreadful PEZ piece. (No offence intended to PEZ fans but his work really doesn't do it for me!)
The thing about art values is that any given piece is only ever worth what someone is willing to pay. At the levels you're talking about, It looks like a doubtful strategy to simply decide an appropriate price for something on behalf of your purchasers โย you'd surely need to negotiate it with them, or put yourself at risk of causing severe disappointment and making yourself extremely unpopular.
I agree with others - tell us what you've got and what you want for it, and let us decide for ourselves. Or at the very least, let us give you a list to choose from. I might be willing to take the chance if I could specify five or six artists I was interested in.
I would, however, be very curious to know which Vauchers, Reids, Gillettes, Hewletts and McLauchlans you're offering โย along with possibly one or two others.
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by Armagideon Times on Aug 21, 2020 11:14:09 GMT 1, all the ยฃ300 was an example by the reactions, im feeling its a bad idea, ill remove the post
all the ยฃ300 was an example by the reactions, im feeling its a bad idea, ill remove the post
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by zacksz 123123 on Aug 21, 2020 11:28:45 GMT 1, all the ยฃ300 was an example by the reactions, im feeling its a bad idea, ill remove the post
I believe the reactions are bad to due other similar scenarios in which people did not receive fair values.
I think if you listed the prints and your estimated value for each one to make this process seem less deceiving it should work. Letโs say you pick a grouping of similar pricing prints, for example 200-400. In this group of prints letโs say your mystery tube costs 150-200. Each of the prints you can number 1-20 or whatever you have so that you can maybe to a raffle drawing so itโs not you who is choosing which mystery tube each user gets, but is more about chance?!?!
I would say due to some artists popularity like Martin whatson, you should have a different group of prints ranging 8-1200. These mystery tubes will cost more due to more valuable prints, but similar to above in which you do not select who gets the most valuable piece, but more of a live drawing to determine who is lucky during the mystery picks?!?
all the ยฃ300 was an example by the reactions, im feeling its a bad idea, ill remove the post I believe the reactions are bad to due other similar scenarios in which people did not receive fair values. I think if you listed the prints and your estimated value for each one to make this process seem less deceiving it should work. Letโs say you pick a grouping of similar pricing prints, for example 200-400. In this group of prints letโs say your mystery tube costs 150-200. Each of the prints you can number 1-20 or whatever you have so that you can maybe to a raffle drawing so itโs not you who is choosing which mystery tube each user gets, but is more about chance?!?! I would say due to some artists popularity like Martin whatson, you should have a different group of prints ranging 8-1200. These mystery tubes will cost more due to more valuable prints, but similar to above in which you do not select who gets the most valuable piece, but more of a live drawing to determine who is lucky during the mystery picks?!?
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by k2 on Aug 21, 2020 11:31:54 GMT 1, all the ยฃ300 was an example by the reactions, im feeling its a bad idea, ill remove the post I believe the reactions are bad to due other similar scenarios in which people did not receive fair values. I think if you listed the prints and your estimated value for each one to make this process seem less deceiving it should work. Letโs say you pick a grouping of similar pricing prints, for example 200-400. In this group of prints letโs say your mystery tube costs 150-200. Each of the prints you can number 1-20 or whatever you have so that you can maybe to a raffle drawing so itโs not you who is choosing which mystery tube each user gets, but is more about chance?!?! I would say due to some artists popularity like Martin whatson, you should have a different group of prints ranging 8-1200. These mystery tubes will cost more due to more valuable prints, but similar to above in which you do not select who gets the most valuable piece, but more of a live drawing to determine who is lucky during the mystery picks?!?
Alternatively... just list what you have for sale and how much youโd like to sell each item for.
all the ยฃ300 was an example by the reactions, im feeling its a bad idea, ill remove the post I believe the reactions are bad to due other similar scenarios in which people did not receive fair values. I think if you listed the prints and your estimated value for each one to make this process seem less deceiving it should work. Letโs say you pick a grouping of similar pricing prints, for example 200-400. In this group of prints letโs say your mystery tube costs 150-200. Each of the prints you can number 1-20 or whatever you have so that you can maybe to a raffle drawing so itโs not you who is choosing which mystery tube each user gets, but is more about chance?!?! I would say due to some artists popularity like Martin whatson, you should have a different group of prints ranging 8-1200. These mystery tubes will cost more due to more valuable prints, but similar to above in which you do not select who gets the most valuable piece, but more of a live drawing to determine who is lucky during the mystery picks?!? Alternatively... just list what you have for sale and how much youโd like to sell each item for.
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by denzil on Aug 21, 2020 11:41:53 GMT 1, Is this an MI5 recruitment thread ?
Is this an MI5 recruitment thread ?
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by tab1 on Aug 21, 2020 11:46:52 GMT 1, So essentially a lucky dip? Pay ยฃ300 a you might get a ยฃ1000 Whatson? And worse case scenario you still end up with a print. Reckon youโd get a few takers on here especially if you list which prints might be available. But why would anyone sell a mystery ยฃ1000 print for ยฃ300? ย It simply doesn't make any sense. ย If the print is really worth ยฃ1000 then sell it on here for...er...ยฃ1000.
Because it will help shift the undesirable prints . Lucky dip
So essentially a lucky dip? Pay ยฃ300 a you might get a ยฃ1000 Whatson? And worse case scenario you still end up with a print. Reckon youโd get a few takers on here especially if you list which prints might be available. But why would anyone sell a mystery ยฃ1000 print for ยฃ300? ย It simply doesn't make any sense. ย If the print is really worth ยฃ1000 then sell it on here for...er...ยฃ1000. Because it will help shift the undesirable prints . Lucky dip
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by Born Again on Aug 21, 2020 11:50:37 GMT 1, Aeelhra ben naz Ben Slow copyKat David Fox Dom Pattinson DotMasters ernest zacharevic Fin Dac fintan magee Gee Vaucher goin Grafter icy & sot Jamie Hewlett Jamie Reid Jeff Gillette jeremy jones John Doe K-Guy Lucy Mclauchlan Martin Whatson Mr Brainwash PEZ Roamcouch Rone sandra chevrier Scott King Shane Turner SKURKTUR's Snik Tim Doyle
Iโll definitely buy a tube with rone and Ernest in it if itโs up for grabs
Aeelhra ben naz Ben Slow copyKat David Fox Dom Pattinson DotMasters ernest zacharevic Fin Dac fintan magee Gee Vaucher goin Grafter icy & sot Jamie Hewlett Jamie Reid Jeff Gillette jeremy jones John Doe K-Guy Lucy Mclauchlan Martin Whatson Mr Brainwash PEZ Roamcouch Rone sandra chevrier Scott King Shane Turner SKURKTUR's Snik Tim Doyle Iโll definitely buy a tube with rone and Ernest in it if itโs up for grabs
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by qwerty on Aug 21, 2020 11:55:57 GMT 1, I like the element of the gamble/mystery and can see where you're going. Can see people having a go if you list all the prints and how many tubes they were split into but It wouldn't be for me.
I like the element of the gamble/mystery and can see where you're going. Can see people having a go if you list all the prints and how many tubes they were split into but It wouldn't be for me.
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by ak1 on Aug 21, 2020 12:08:19 GMT 1, I believe the reactions are bad to due other similar scenarios in which people did not receive fair values. I think if you listed the prints and your estimated value for each one to make this process seem less deceiving it should work. Letโs say you pick a grouping of similar pricing prints, for example 200-400. In this group of prints letโs say your mystery tube costs 150-200. Each of the prints you can number 1-20 or whatever you have so that you can maybe to a raffle drawing so itโs not you who is choosing which mystery tube each user gets, but is more about chance?!?! I would say due to some artists popularity like Martin whatson, you should have a different group of prints ranging 8-1200. These mystery tubes will cost more due to more valuable prints, but similar to above in which you do not select who gets the most valuable piece, but more of a live drawing to determine who is lucky during the mystery picks?!? Alternatively... just list what you have for sale and how much youโd like to sell each item for. Exactly, just list your prints (preferably with a pic) with a price for each like most do on here.
Why make things so complicated.
I believe the reactions are bad to due other similar scenarios in which people did not receive fair values. I think if you listed the prints and your estimated value for each one to make this process seem less deceiving it should work. Letโs say you pick a grouping of similar pricing prints, for example 200-400. In this group of prints letโs say your mystery tube costs 150-200. Each of the prints you can number 1-20 or whatever you have so that you can maybe to a raffle drawing so itโs not you who is choosing which mystery tube each user gets, but is more about chance?!?! I would say due to some artists popularity like Martin whatson, you should have a different group of prints ranging 8-1200. These mystery tubes will cost more due to more valuable prints, but similar to above in which you do not select who gets the most valuable piece, but more of a live drawing to determine who is lucky during the mystery picks?!? Alternatively... just list what you have for sale and how much youโd like to sell each item for. Exactly, just list your prints (preferably with a pic) with a price for each like most do on here. Why make things so complicated.
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by Armagideon Times on Aug 21, 2020 12:16:25 GMT 1, wasn't making it complicated, just a different thought, but if its not the way to go, then that's fine,
wasn't making it complicated, just a different thought, but if its not the way to go, then that's fine,
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by sierrahotel on Aug 21, 2020 14:09:12 GMT 1, eBay or Tate ward
eBay or Tate ward
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by coller on Aug 21, 2020 14:42:22 GMT 1, lootboxes? or loot-tubes?
it's right in the name!
lootboxes? or loot-tubes?
it's right in the name!
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by acortellese on Aug 21, 2020 14:49:55 GMT 1, Hello, my 2 cents.
If you are willing to have your collection appreciated, you should give us the possibility to choose the items we like. I saw interesting artists in your list and other that are not my favorits. Ending up with something non appreciated would only end up in having to re-sell ...
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Hello, my 2 cents.
If you are willing to have your collection appreciated, you should give us the possibility to choose the items we like. I saw interesting artists in your list and other that are not my favorits. Ending up with something non appreciated would only end up in having to re-sell ...
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by churchwood on Aug 21, 2020 15:04:39 GMT 1, My 2 cents as well: do a raffle Live OR a raffle with limited paid numbers. Itโs the trend nowadays. Or just put pics and sell them. Itโs probably best and less dodgy. Looks like you grabbed 6 cents worth :-)
On the fence on this - I bought one yonks ago for a charity - it was pretty low cost but the print I received was truly horrible, you takes yer chances.
Had I received something much nicer then I would probably be more positive.
Having entered numerous lotteries and never won anything - violin music - I know that I would get the worst one of the bunch.
My 2 cents as well: do a raffle Live OR a raffle with limited paid numbers. Itโs the trend nowadays. Or just put pics and sell them. Itโs probably best and less dodgy. Looks like you grabbed 6 cents worth :-) On the fence on this - I bought one yonks ago for a charity - it was pretty low cost but the print I received was truly horrible, you takes yer chances. Had I received something much nicer then I would probably be more positive. Having entered numerous lotteries and never won anything - violin music - I know that I would get the worst one of the bunch.
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by wrigs on Aug 21, 2020 15:04:39 GMT 1, I buy art because I like it. The idea of buying a random print that I might hate for a relatively large amount of money is not one Iโm in for.
If you said there was a Banksy in one of them guaranteed you might get a few more takers but most would think your taking the pee ๐
I buy art because I like it. The idea of buying a random print that I might hate for a relatively large amount of money is not one Iโm in for.
If you said there was a Banksy in one of them guaranteed you might get a few more takers but most would think your taking the pee ๐
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by theonlytexaspete on Aug 21, 2020 16:34:24 GMT 1, Iโd be in for a raffle, guaranteed a print ๐ Alexei
Iโd be in for a raffle, guaranteed a print ๐ Alexei
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by Armagideon Times on Aug 21, 2020 17:02:18 GMT 1, My 2 cents as well: do a raffle Live OR a raffle with limited paid numbers. Itโs the trend nowadays. Or just put pics and sell them. Itโs probably best and less dodgy. FYI i don't do dodgy
My 2 cents as well: do a raffle Live OR a raffle with limited paid numbers. Itโs the trend nowadays. Or just put pics and sell them. Itโs probably best and less dodgy. FYI i don't do dodgy
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Large collection needs to be reduced, by kuni on Aug 21, 2020 18:13:04 GMT 1, Something of an aside, but one of my favorite clothing brands (outlier.nyc) does a seasonal promotion where they offer "WTF Packs" which is where you basically pay $75 and select "top" or "bottom" and size, and they send you some random piece of clothing. The only guarantee they make is that the size will be right and that it would have retailed for at least $75.
Sometimes you get a $400 jacket and others you get pink cargo shorts, just the luck of the draw. More often than not it works out for the better, but they're very clear that you should have low expectations. and it's not a deal for whiners or complainers.
The WTF packs sell out very quickly, sometimes within a minute, and for most part it ends up being a win-win. I've scored some excellent pieces from the WTF packs.
Anyway, I'd probably choose not to purchase a print but I respect the desire to do something different.
Something of an aside, but one of my favorite clothing brands (outlier.nyc) does a seasonal promotion where they offer "WTF Packs" which is where you basically pay $75 and select "top" or "bottom" and size, and they send you some random piece of clothing. The only guarantee they make is that the size will be right and that it would have retailed for at least $75.
Sometimes you get a $400 jacket and others you get pink cargo shorts, just the luck of the draw. More often than not it works out for the better, but they're very clear that you should have low expectations. and it's not a deal for whiners or complainers.
The WTF packs sell out very quickly, sometimes within a minute, and for most part it ends up being a win-win. I've scored some excellent pieces from the WTF packs.
Anyway, I'd probably choose not to purchase a print but I respect the desire to do something different.
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