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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Georgie Poppit on Mar 18, 2021 15:50:57 GMT 1, Anyone care to sumarise?!
Anyone care to sumarise?!
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 15:52:05 GMT 1, Hmmm.... interesting. Some good results, some bad ones and some puzzling ones. I wonder what Game Changer next week will do to the market?
I'm not sure whats going on with the final lot price as it would suggest they have only added on approx 25% to the hammer price? Shouldn't it be approx 35%? For instance, Donut hammered at 80k, but shows as a total price of £100,800.
Hmmm.... interesting. Some good results, some bad ones and some puzzling ones. I wonder what Game Changer next week will do to the market?
I'm not sure whats going on with the final lot price as it would suggest they have only added on approx 25% to the hammer price? Shouldn't it be approx 35%? For instance, Donut hammered at 80k, but shows as a total price of £100,800.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Sundowner on Mar 18, 2021 15:53:36 GMT 1, They only add Buyers Premium to the hammer price online - VAT and ARR will be added on when they invoice.
They only add Buyers Premium to the hammer price online - VAT and ARR will be added on when they invoice.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 15:54:16 GMT 1, Where is LV90210 when you need him
Where is LV90210 when you need him
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Pattycakes on Mar 18, 2021 15:54:25 GMT 1, Hmmm.... interesting. Some good results, some bad ones and some puzzling ones. I wonder what Game Changer next week will do to the market? I'm not sure whats going on with the final lot price as it would suggest they have only added on approx 25% to the hammer price? Shouldn't it be approx 35%? For instance, Donut hammered at 80k, but shows as a total price of £100,800.
Hmmm.... interesting. Some good results, some bad ones and some puzzling ones. I wonder what Game Changer next week will do to the market? I'm not sure whats going on with the final lot price as it would suggest they have only added on approx 25% to the hammer price? Shouldn't it be approx 35%? For instance, Donut hammered at 80k, but shows as a total price of £100,800. The price shown will be Hammer plus premium which at Sotheby's is 26%. They do not show the ARR or the VAT in the these figures. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by henryc on Mar 18, 2021 15:54:38 GMT 1, Anyone care to sumarise?!
Some people made money,
Some a bit less
And the auction house made a lot too.
That s pretty much everything.
Anyone care to sumarise?! Some people made money, Some a bit less And the auction house made a lot too. That s pretty much everything. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Dexter Bulldog on Mar 18, 2021 15:55:05 GMT 1, Hmmm.... interesting. Some good results, some bad ones and some puzzling ones. I wonder what Game Changer next week will do to the market? I'm not sure whats going on with the final lot price as it would suggest they have only added on approx 25% to the hammer price? Shouldn't it be approx 35%? For instance, Donut hammered at 80k, but shows as a total price of £100,800.
Hmmm.... interesting. Some good results, some bad ones and some puzzling ones. I wonder what Game Changer next week will do to the market? I'm not sure whats going on with the final lot price as it would suggest they have only added on approx 25% to the hammer price? Shouldn't it be approx 35%? For instance, Donut hammered at 80k, but shows as a total price of £100,800. they add 26% bp and 1% admin fee |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Graham H on Mar 18, 2021 15:55:19 GMT 1, Good to see two top tier auction houses have similar sales with differing ways of selling.. one with ridiculously low estimates hoping to pull people in ( Sotheby's) and one with realistic estimates and start amounts ..
Lets see if the higher starting prices at Christies makes any difference...
Good to see two top tier auction houses have similar sales with differing ways of selling.. one with ridiculously low estimates hoping to pull people in ( Sotheby's) and one with realistic estimates and start amounts ..
Lets see if the higher starting prices at Christies makes any difference...
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by theclash on Mar 18, 2021 15:55:26 GMT 1, Have to say other than CYW bit of a yawn auction with some weird results. Average hammer £71k with average 18 bids
Have to say other than CYW bit of a yawn auction with some weird results. Average hammer £71k with average 18 bids
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Dexter Bulldog on Mar 18, 2021 15:56:01 GMT 1, ive been on fusions case a bit in the past, now will the tool finally show a proper value for CYW after these results?
ive been on fusions case a bit in the past, now will the tool finally show a proper value for CYW after these results?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by F*X on Mar 18, 2021 15:57:12 GMT 1, The total for the CYW was a surprise £324 K total paid
The total for the CYW was a surprise £324 K total paid
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Lazarus II on Mar 18, 2021 15:58:02 GMT 1, Where is LV90210 when you need him
Cheltenham.
Where is LV90210 when you need him Cheltenham. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 15:59:16 GMT 1, Only adds Buyers Premium. VAT and ARR will be done on invoice.
Ok. So, without wanting to sound like I'm manipulating prices, the final figure paid is still a lot higher than shown on the website.
Only adds Buyers Premium. VAT and ARR will be done on invoice. Ok. So, without wanting to sound like I'm manipulating prices, the final figure paid is still a lot higher than shown on the website. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by ricardob on Mar 18, 2021 16:01:48 GMT 1, Happy to sell my signed grannies print for hammer price. If someone wants it just PM me. Print is in Australia.
Happy to sell my signed grannies print for hammer price. If someone wants it just PM me. Print is in Australia.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Harveyn on Mar 18, 2021 16:03:44 GMT 1, Interesting averages. Looks like unsigned averaged £64k and signed £127k
Based on prices shown which still need adjust for VAT and ARR, I think.
Interesting averages. Looks like unsigned averaged £64k and signed £127k
Based on prices shown which still need adjust for VAT and ARR, I think.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Terry Fuckwitt on Mar 18, 2021 16:06:46 GMT 1, Where is LV90210 when you need him Cheltenham.
Sold out!
Where is LV90210 when you need him Cheltenham. Sold out! |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by NOLA on Mar 18, 2021 16:08:23 GMT 1, Certainly not at those v low estimates and therefore reserves.
Certainly not at those v low estimates and therefore reserves.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 16:09:46 GMT 1, Have to say other than Choose Your Weapon bit of a yawn auction with some weird results. Average hammer £71k with average 18 bids
Still pretty good compared to just over a year back
I'd be ok if I was a seller
Still a pretty awesome return for art bought years back for most
Have to say other than Choose Your Weapon bit of a yawn auction with some weird results. Average hammer £71k with average 18 bids Still pretty good compared to just over a year back I'd be ok if I was a seller Still a pretty awesome return for art bought years back for most |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by argylepaul on Mar 18, 2021 16:10:50 GMT 1, Are these the final sale prices for Sothebys, or is there a premium added on or any other add-ons?
£75,000 sounds a bit lame for Very Little Helps, when I thought these might be into the 80s and 90s.
Basically I am a bit thick when it comes to these prices. If I sold VLH now based on that, what would you expect to get with a private buyer/gallery?
Are these the final sale prices for Sothebys, or is there a premium added on or any other add-ons?
£75,000 sounds a bit lame for Very Little Helps, when I thought these might be into the 80s and 90s.
Basically I am a bit thick when it comes to these prices. If I sold VLH now based on that, what would you expect to get with a private buyer/gallery?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by jp226 on Mar 18, 2021 16:12:26 GMT 1, Will happily sell my mint U/S Toxic Mary for a little under hammer price.
Will happily sell my mint U/S Toxic Mary for a little under hammer price.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by sandinista on Mar 18, 2021 16:13:26 GMT 1, 100k for a choco donut!! his worst print imho.
100k for a choco donut!! his worst print imho.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by wave on Mar 18, 2021 16:14:04 GMT 1, Just for clarity, on the QJG that sold for £201,600......and on the sepia that sold for £75,600
what is the actual total that will be paid by the buyer?
Just for clarity, on the QJG that sold for £201,600......and on the sepia that sold for £75,600
what is the actual total that will be paid by the buyer?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by theclash on Mar 18, 2021 16:15:32 GMT 1, Have to say other than Choose Your Weapon bit of a yawn auction with some weird results. Average hammer £71k with average 18 bids Still pretty good compared to just over a year back I'd be ok if I was a seller Still a pretty awesome return for art bought years back for most
Fair point Bren. Think the 2020 fireworks are taking a breather. Def not a bad auction feels like Banksy art has found a level for the moment.
Have to say other than Choose Your Weapon bit of a yawn auction with some weird results. Average hammer £71k with average 18 bids Still pretty good compared to just over a year back I'd be ok if I was a seller Still a pretty awesome return for art bought years back for most Fair point Bren. Think the 2020 fireworks are taking a breather. Def not a bad auction feels like Banksy art has found a level for the moment. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by laughn0w on Mar 18, 2021 16:18:16 GMT 1, I think the prices on the sothebys website show x1.26 hammer but buyer will pay about x1.34 hammer
I think the prices on the sothebys website show x1.26 hammer but buyer will pay about x1.34 hammer
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 16:19:10 GMT 1, Where is LV90210 when you need him Cheltenham.
would be interested to see final final results
Where is LV90210 when you need him Cheltenham. He is online, must just be plugging the figures in his algo. would be interested to see final final results |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by F*X on Mar 18, 2021 16:21:56 GMT 1, Total paid in BP ARR & VAT Total OF 35% Premium
Rude Copper Unsigned £51300
Love Is In The Air Unsigned £229500
HMV Dog Unsigned £56700
Bomb Hugger Unsigned £54000
Grannies Signed £114750
Soup Can (Colour) Signed £101250
Kate Signed £297000
Soup Can Unsigned £47250
Very Little Helps Signed £81000
Grannies Hand Sprayed Signed £243000
Get Out While You Can Unsigned £54000
Love Rat Unsigned £67500
Girl With Balloon Unsigned £216000
Toxic Mary Colour way Gold & Pink Signed £128250
Get Out While You Can Unsigned £56700
Flag (Gold Formica) Signed £87750
CND Soldiers Signed £74250
Monkey Queen Unsigned £51300
Queen Vic Unsigned £40500
Grin Reaper AP Signed £108000
Have a Nice Day Unsigned £47250
Happy Choppers Unsigned £67500
Bomb Middle England Unsigned £35100
Flying Copper Unsigned £67500
Golf Sale Signed £60750
Napalm Unsigned £54000
CND Soldiers Unsigned £56700
Flag (Silver Formica) Signed £81000
Golf Sale Unsigned £40500
Toxic Mary Unsigned £94500
Jack and Jill Signed £101250
I Fought The Law Signed £60750
Flag (Gold) Signed £60750
Barcode Unsigned £81000
Weston Super Mare Unsigned £35100
Pulp Fiction Unsigned £87750
Laugh Now Signed £162000
I Fought The Law Unsigned £37800
Grannies Unsigned £40500
Festival AP Signed £135000
Applause (POW) Unsigned £47250
Morons (Sepia) Signed £81000
Flag (Silver) Unsigned 35100
Donuts (Chocolate) Signed £108000
Choose Your Weapon (25 edition) Signed £324000
Choose Your Weapon (58 edition) Signed £216000
Total paid in BP ARR & VAT Total OF 35% Premium
Rude Copper Unsigned £51300
Love Is In The Air Unsigned £229500
HMV Dog Unsigned £56700
Bomb Hugger Unsigned £54000
Grannies Signed £114750
Soup Can (Colour) Signed £101250
Kate Signed £297000
Soup Can Unsigned £47250
Very Little Helps Signed £81000
Grannies Hand Sprayed Signed £243000
Get Out While You Can Unsigned £54000
Love Rat Unsigned £67500
Girl With Balloon Unsigned £216000
Toxic Mary Colour way Gold & Pink Signed £128250
Get Out While You Can Unsigned £56700
Flag (Gold Formica) Signed £87750
CND Soldiers Signed £74250
Monkey Queen Unsigned £51300
Queen Vic Unsigned £40500
Grin Reaper AP Signed £108000
Have a Nice Day Unsigned £47250
Happy Choppers Unsigned £67500
Bomb Middle England Unsigned £35100
Flying Copper Unsigned £67500
Golf Sale Signed £60750
Napalm Unsigned £54000
CND Soldiers Unsigned £56700
Flag (Silver Formica) Signed £81000
Golf Sale Unsigned £40500
Toxic Mary Unsigned £94500
Jack and Jill Signed £101250
I Fought The Law Signed £60750
Flag (Gold) Signed £60750
Barcode Unsigned £81000
Weston Super Mare Unsigned £35100
Pulp Fiction Unsigned £87750
Laugh Now Signed £162000
I Fought The Law Unsigned £37800
Grannies Unsigned £40500
Festival AP Signed £135000
Applause (POW) Unsigned £47250
Morons (Sepia) Signed £81000
Flag (Silver) Unsigned 35100
Donuts (Chocolate) Signed £108000
Choose Your Weapon (25 edition) Signed £324000
Choose Your Weapon (58 edition) Signed £216000
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by dukeofwybourne on Mar 18, 2021 16:22:48 GMT 1, Are these the final sale prices for Sothebys, or is there a premium added on or any other add-ons? £75,000 sounds a bit lame for Very Little Helps, when I thought these might be into the 80s and 90s. Basically I am a bit thick when it comes to these prices. If I sold Very Little Helps now based on that, what would you expect to get with a private buyer/gallery?
Are these the final sale prices for Sothebys, or is there a premium added on or any other add-ons? £75,000 sounds a bit lame for Very Little Helps, when I thought these might be into the 80s and 90s. Basically I am a bit thick when it comes to these prices. If I sold Very Little Helps now based on that, what would you expect to get with a private buyer/gallery? Using only this result - a gallery's price would likely be around 80k, and you'd be giving them 8% (using Hang Up as an example) A private sale on here, probably 70k? Either way you'd be getting more than the seller today, who after seller's fee would have got around 55k. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 16:24:45 GMT 1, That Toxic Mary result was a bit bizarre. Always seems to be one slightly suspicious result in each auction. Personally love it, but selling for more than Laugh Now and Pulp Fiction??
I'm sure we'll see a few people trying to sell theirs for £50/60/70k in the next few weeks and being surprised they aren't inundated with offers.
That Toxic Mary result was a bit bizarre. Always seems to be one slightly suspicious result in each auction. Personally love it, but selling for more than Laugh Now and Pulp Fiction??
I'm sure we'll see a few people trying to sell theirs for £50/60/70k in the next few weeks and being surprised they aren't inundated with offers.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Rubberneck on Mar 18, 2021 16:25:17 GMT 1, Certainly not at those v low estimates and therefore reserves.
sotheby’s low estimating I think is more to do with guaranteeing a sale and the commission for whomever is handling the auction. They are aggressively low with them.
Certainly not at those v low estimates and therefore reserves. I think they have really messed up the estimating. The only 2 with high estimates were surrounded by ridiculously low ones. As Christie’s have done more realistic estimates, in line with forum, it will be interesting to see how the online auctions compare. sotheby’s low estimating I think is more to do with guaranteeing a sale and the commission for whomever is handling the auction. They are aggressively low with them. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by ricardob on Mar 18, 2021 16:30:29 GMT 1, About 4 million in sales, so the auction house makes around $800k
Not bad for them
About 4 million in sales, so the auction house makes around $800k
Not bad for them
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