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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Wanchope on Aug 17, 2022 17:43:34 GMT 1, Was it me or did a lot of the condition reports seem to have a fair few issues on each print? To be fair the reports sounded quite comprehensive, but without being taken out the frame you never know the full condition and thatโs on top of the issues statedโฆ.( not sure what point Iโm making btw ๐คฃ)
Was it me or did a lot of the condition reports seem to have a fair few issues on each print? To be fair the reports sounded quite comprehensive, but without being taken out the frame you never know the full condition and thatโs on top of the issues statedโฆ.( not sure what point Iโm making btw ๐คฃ)
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by apprint on Aug 17, 2022 18:18:09 GMT 1, About 60% down form the max of last years,
We should thanks PC for help everyone with COA and keep real
ThAnks PC thanks PC thanks PC
About 60% down form the max of last years,
We should thanks PC for help everyone with COA and keep real
ThAnks PC thanks PC thanks PC
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Adam The Collector on Aug 17, 2022 19:57:20 GMT 1, ufffff.... that was the best performing print in the auction. always loved morons I thought banksquiat would have reached a higher price Why was Morons so high ? I know the sepia print commands the highest price but $121K seams very high. They had a lot of bidders! I have always pumped Sepia Morons here on the forums with posts like this but I believe it is just reaching the price it deserves. It was under rated for many years and since his auction stunt shredding the Balloon Girl collectors have viewed this image differently. That being said, I am surprised to see how strong it finished considering the prices of others.
ufffff.... that was the best performing print in the auction. always loved morons I thought banksquiat would have reached a higher price Why was Morons so high ? I know the sepia print commands the highest price but $121K seams very high. They had a lot of bidders! I have always pumped Sepia Morons here on the forums with posts like this but I believe it is just reaching the price it deserves. It was under rated for many years and since his auction stunt shredding the Balloon Girl collectors have viewed this image differently. That being said, I am surprised to see how strong it finished considering the prices of others.
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bob60
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by bob60 on Aug 17, 2022 20:12:47 GMT 1, Can somebody please post the sold prices if possible. I remember someone always used to do it after an auction with prices including fees etc Thanks
Can somebody please post the sold prices if possible. I remember someone always used to do it after an auction with prices including fees etc Thanks
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by jp on Aug 17, 2022 20:17:00 GMT 1, I could have sworn there was an unsigned Girl With Balloon print in this auction. Did it get removed? I don't see it in the list of completed results.
I could have sworn there was an unsigned Girl With Balloon print in this auction. Did it get removed? I don't see it in the list of completed results.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by The Greased Piglet on Aug 17, 2022 20:43:44 GMT 1, Prices shown on the Sothebyโs site do not include VAT on the buyers premium (crazy as all countries have an input duty equivalent which in some cases is more) and as all of the prints came from the US so will have a further 5% added to them if the buyer is in the U.K. Hong Kong, Bermuda, Brunei, Greenland, Kuwait, Cameroon, Oman, Qatar, Virgin Islands, Gibraltar, Gurnsey, all zero import tax, plenty more as well and of course freeports all over the world.
Not all lots were subject to import VAT, the US collection made up just over half the sale.
Prices shown on the Sothebyโs site do not include VAT on the buyers premium (crazy as all countries have an input duty equivalent which in some cases is more) and as all of the prints came from the US so will have a further 5% added to them if the buyer is in the U.K. Hong Kong, Bermuda, Brunei, Greenland, Kuwait, Cameroon, Oman, Qatar, Virgin Islands, Gibraltar, Gurnsey, all zero import tax, plenty more as well and of course freeports all over the world. Not all lots were subject to import VAT, the US collection made up just over half the sale.
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silvermyn
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by silvermyn on Aug 17, 2022 22:22:51 GMT 1, The ยฃ100k result for Morons Sepia is a real surprise. There was a much rarer version of Morons (signed LA edition) that sold for $53k only last month.
onlineonly.christies.com/s/trespassing/banksy-11/157559
You would have thought the results would have been the other way around :/
The ยฃ100k result for Morons Sepia is a real surprise. There was a much rarer version of Morons (signed LA edition) that sold for $53k only last month. onlineonly.christies.com/s/trespassing/banksy-11/157559You would have thought the results would have been the other way around :/
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bob60
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by bob60 on Aug 18, 2022 18:44:37 GMT 1, Do the sold prices on the website include buyers premium etc. It doesn't say on the site.
Do the sold prices on the website include buyers premium etc. It doesn't say on the site.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by samo on Aug 18, 2022 19:12:10 GMT 1, Do the sold prices on the website include buyers premium etc. It doesn't say on the site.
As JFCC commented: Prices shown on the Sothebyโs site do not include VAT on the buyers premium. I also believe the results on the Sothebyโs site don't include the artist resale rights.
All the results for this auction can be found on:
www.banksy-value.com/realised.php
Do the sold prices on the website include buyers premium etc. It doesn't say on the site.
As JFCC commented: Prices shown on the Sothebyโs site do not include VAT on the buyers premium. I also believe the results on the Sothebyโs site don't include the artist resale rights.
All the results for this auction can be found on:
www.banksy-value.com/realised.php
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Wanchope
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Wanchope on Aug 18, 2022 19:45:26 GMT 1, Yes they include the buyerโs premium, but not the VAT on the premium and ARR. why auction houses canโt just put the hammer price I donโt know, well actually I do itโs to make the prices seem greater than they are I am guessing.
Yes they include the buyerโs premium, but not the VAT on the premium and ARR. why auction houses canโt just put the hammer price I donโt know, well actually I do itโs to make the prices seem greater than they are I am guessing.
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artlike
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by artlike on Aug 18, 2022 20:02:31 GMT 1, Yes they include the buyerโs premium, but not the VAT on the premium and ARR. why auction houses canโt just put the hammer price I donโt know, well actually I do itโs to make the prices seem greater than they are I am guessing. Oh I didn't realise the prices included buyers premium. Ouch, results not as "OK" as I thought.
Yes they include the buyerโs premium, but not the VAT on the premium and ARR. why auction houses canโt just put the hammer price I donโt know, well actually I do itโs to make the prices seem greater than they are I am guessing. Oh I didn't realise the prices included buyers premium. Ouch, results not as "OK" as I thought.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by drbf on Aug 18, 2022 22:30:54 GMT 1, Yes they include the buyerโs premium, but not the VAT on the premium and ARR. why auction houses canโt just put the hammer price I donโt know, well actually I do itโs to make the prices seem greater than they are I am guessing. Oh I didn't realise the prices included buyers premium. Ouch, results not as "OK" as I thought. Are you required to pay VAT and ARR on any art purchased in the USA ? Words
Yes they include the buyerโs premium, but not the VAT on the premium and ARR. why auction houses canโt just put the hammer price I donโt know, well actually I do itโs to make the prices seem greater than they are I am guessing. Oh I didn't realise the prices included buyers premium. Ouch, results not as "OK" as I thought. Are you required to pay VAT and ARR on any art purchased in the USA ? Words
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Wanchope
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Wanchope on Aug 18, 2022 23:01:47 GMT 1, I would imagine so, but i must say I donโt know the rules in the US. I imagine ARR for sure and surely a similar tax?? Hopefully someone else can chime in and enlighten us.
I would imagine so, but i must say I donโt know the rules in the US. I imagine ARR for sure and surely a similar tax?? Hopefully someone else can chime in and enlighten us.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by The Greased Piglet on Aug 19, 2022 0:35:11 GMT 1, Oh I didn't realise the prices included buyers premium. Ouch, results not as "OK" as I thought. Are you required to pay VAT and ARR on any art purchased in the USA ? Words ARR is not charged in the US so no on that. States have different sales tax rates, some have none while others charge, so depends where youโre buying from. If youโre not a resident of the State you normally donโt pay sales tax but of course you may need to pay VAT or import duty depending on the rules in your tax jurisdiction, this is payable on import into the buyerโs country.
US buyers buying in the UK will not have to pay VAT on the buyers premium but will have to pay ARR which is calculated on a sliding scale based on the value and ranges between 0.25-4.00% for works over ยฃ1,000.
If youโre referring to the fact that some of the works in this auction were subject to an additional 5% VAT (the US collection), this is not a tax charged by the US, this is VAT charged on import by HMRC for UK buyers only. If the artwork goes anywhere else in the world once sold then this will not be charged but the buyer could be charged VAT by their tax authorities on import.
Oh I didn't realise the prices included buyers premium. Ouch, results not as "OK" as I thought. Are you required to pay VAT and ARR on any art purchased in the USA ? Words ARR is not charged in the US so no on that. States have different sales tax rates, some have none while others charge, so depends where youโre buying from. If youโre not a resident of the State you normally donโt pay sales tax but of course you may need to pay VAT or import duty depending on the rules in your tax jurisdiction, this is payable on import into the buyerโs country. US buyers buying in the UK will not have to pay VAT on the buyers premium but will have to pay ARR which is calculated on a sliding scale based on the value and ranges between 0.25-4.00% for works over ยฃ1,000. If youโre referring to the fact that some of the works in this auction were subject to an additional 5% VAT (the US collection), this is not a tax charged by the US, this is VAT charged on import by HMRC for UK buyers only. If the artwork goes anywhere else in the world once sold then this will not be charged but the buyer could be charged VAT by their tax authorities on import.
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artlike
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by artlike on Aug 19, 2022 8:13:35 GMT 1, Oh I didn't realise the prices included buyers premium. Ouch, results not as "OK" as I thought. Are you required to pay VAT and ARR on any art purchased in the USA ? Words I think it varied by print
Words words that will not be words for words
Oh I didn't realise the prices included buyers premium. Ouch, results not as "OK" as I thought. Are you required to pay VAT and ARR on any art purchased in the USA ? Words I think it varied by print Words words that will not be words for words
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by JFCC on Aug 19, 2022 12:47:08 GMT 1, U.K. sale - ARR is charged and VAT on the buyers premium if the piece stays in the U.K. If it is exported no VAT is due but it will be subject to import duty in the country is exported to which typically will be higher.
US Sale - no ARR as this is a European scheme but if sales tax is charged it can only be reclaimed in certain states if it it to be exported. NY and CA most notably do not allow reclaiming of sales tax. If the item is imported in to the U.K. then import duty levied at 5% will be due. This rate is higher in most mainland European counties.
All of the prints in the auction came from a single US based collection.
U.K. sale - ARR is charged and VAT on the buyers premium if the piece stays in the U.K. If it is exported no VAT is due but it will be subject to import duty in the country is exported to which typically will be higher.
US Sale - no ARR as this is a European scheme but if sales tax is charged it can only be reclaimed in certain states if it it to be exported. NY and CA most notably do not allow reclaiming of sales tax. If the item is imported in to the U.K. then import duty levied at 5% will be due. This rate is higher in most mainland European counties.
All of the prints in the auction came from a single US based collection.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Hanging Around on Aug 21, 2022 14:36:42 GMT 1, If anyone is after a signed Love is in the Air, then please let me know. UK based, Pest Control, unframed and stored flat.
If anyone is after a signed Love is in the Air, then please let me know. UK based, Pest Control, unframed and stored flat.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Daniel Silk on Nov 12, 2022 10:47:05 GMT 1, Thierry Noir exhibition being held at Sotheby's ๐ณ 11-15th November at their New Bond Street Galleries in London.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ck2tyx2Ax7g
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Art is fun
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Art is fun on Feb 28, 2023 1:19:31 GMT 1, Auction tomorrow 7 PM PST
Auction tomorrow 7 PM PST
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Art is fun on Feb 28, 2023 4:56:43 GMT 1, Bump
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Art is fun on Feb 28, 2023 8:06:59 GMT 1, Auction today 7 PM PST
Auction today 7 PM PST
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Art is fun on Mar 1, 2023 3:59:08 GMT 1, Auction starting now.
Auction starting now.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Patrick 01 on Mar 1, 2023 9:15:09 GMT 1, Sales are really struggling! (Apart from the manipulated results- Albert Willem) Decent works by Jordy Kerwick, Calleja and Hirst among others not even sellingโฆโฆat Sothebys!! Buyers also seem timid about buying works by emerging artists at the minute
Sales are really struggling! (Apart from the manipulated results- Albert Willem) Decent works by Jordy Kerwick, Calleja and Hirst among others not even sellingโฆโฆat Sothebys!! Buyers also seem timid about buying works by emerging artists at the minute
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Wanchope
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Wanchope on Mar 1, 2023 9:19:14 GMT 1, Yep itโs interesting with Albert willem being well over inflated as his always seem to appear with Thierry noirs, I wonder if something fishy is going on ( backed by the same hype/buyers/market manipulators, but hey itโs the art world and there is plenty of that going on!
Yep itโs interesting with Albert willem being well over inflated as his always seem to appear with Thierry noirs, I wonder if something fishy is going on ( backed by the same hype/buyers/market manipulators, but hey itโs the art world and there is plenty of that going on!
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Art is fun on Mar 1, 2023 22:14:58 GMT 1, Auction in 15 hours.
Auction in 15 hours.
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Wanchope
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Wanchope on Mar 2, 2023 0:08:44 GMT 1, Wouldnโt have a clue as itโs a great image but not a big piece and on cardboard. Iโll have a stab though and say hammer of 350k ??
Wouldnโt have a clue as itโs a great image but not a big piece and on cardboard. Iโll have a stab though and say hammer of 350k ??
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by STP on Mar 2, 2023 0:40:55 GMT 1, "The initial appearance of this iconic motif appeared on the side of a garage in Beit Sahour in 2005, close to the Israeli West Bank Barrier which separates Israel from the West Bank territories of Palestine"
The 'iconic motif' they're selling is from 2003.
Don't they teach maths at Eton?
"The initial appearance of this iconic motif appeared on the side of a garage in Beit Sahour in 2005, close to the Israeli West Bank Barrier which separates Israel from the West Bank territories of Palestine"
The 'iconic motif' they're selling is from 2003.
Don't they teach maths at Eton?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Peperami Monster on Mar 2, 2023 13:45:51 GMT 1, any one know know what :
these went for?
please?
any one know know what :
these went for?
please?
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