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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Lunch Special on Sept 17, 2020 15:17:36 GMT 1, I wonder if they decide to appeal and Banksy decides that this is so serious that he needs to reveal himself/herself/themselves to contest this decision... Sounds like the anonymity irritated the panel! Would be great for him to expose himself in court! Interesting for sure... long term ,this ruling if left unchallenged will effect his market and brand
How so? the only thingg that would affect his market or " brand " is if he did in fact reveal himself in court...lol
hes an artist he will create more art to challenge and mock the system. What he's been doing all along.
So many of you seem to be so vested so concerned so interested in his future?
Or more so your own future investments.....
I wonder if they decide to appeal and Banksy decides that this is so serious that he needs to reveal himself/herself/themselves to contest this decision... Sounds like the anonymity irritated the panel! Would be great for him to expose himself in court! Interesting for sure... long term ,this ruling if left unchallenged will effect his market and brand How so? the only thingg that would affect his market or " brand " is if he did in fact reveal himself in court...lol hes an artist he will create more art to challenge and mock the system. What he's been doing all along. So many of you seem to be so vested so concerned so interested in his future? Or more so your own future investments.....
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Lazarus II on Sept 17, 2020 15:23:08 GMT 1, I wonder if they decide to appeal and Banksy decides that this is so serious that he needs to reveal himself/herself/themselves to contest this decision... Sounds like the anonymity irritated the panel! Would be great for him to expose himself in court! Interesting for sure... long term ,this ruling if left unchallenged will effect his market and brand what do you think may happen ? Calendar companies start to produce Banksy calendars, ebay sellers sell Banksy everything, screen printers start producing copies of Banksy prints en masse, cant see any of that happening myself....
I wonder if they decide to appeal and Banksy decides that this is so serious that he needs to reveal himself/herself/themselves to contest this decision... Sounds like the anonymity irritated the panel! Would be great for him to expose himself in court! Interesting for sure... long term ,this ruling if left unchallenged will effect his market and brand what do you think may happen ? Calendar companies start to produce Banksy calendars, ebay sellers sell Banksy everything, screen printers start producing copies of Banksy prints en masse, cant see any of that happening myself....
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Terry Fuckwitt on Sept 17, 2020 15:28:25 GMT 1, what do you think may happen ? Calendar companies start to produce Banksy calendars, ebay sellers sell Banksy everything, screen printers start producing copies of Banksy prints en masse, cant see any of that happening myself.... Of course they will when his stuff sells for tens of thousands- Banksy is mainstream like it or not
I think it was sarcasm😉
what do you think may happen ? Calendar companies start to produce Banksy calendars, ebay sellers sell Banksy everything, screen printers start producing copies of Banksy prints en masse, cant see any of that happening myself.... Of course they will when his stuff sells for tens of thousands- Banksy is mainstream like it or not I think it was sarcasm😉
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by tab1 on Sept 17, 2020 15:33:11 GMT 1, long term ,this ruling if left unchallenged will effect his market and brand what do you think may happen ? Calendar companies start to produce Banksy calendars, ebay sellers sell Banksy everything, screen printers start producing copies of Banksy prints en masse, cant see any of that happening myself.... the licencee has no qualms what is made ,it is in their interest for as many companies as possible to apply to them to license the image , profits is the rule here . . maybe banksy as displayed in morons will now see his prints accessible to all , as he did not believe in the high prices the prints were selling for
mr brainwash uses the image in question alot , now the company has gained copyright can they now seek compensation from all that has used the image from the start of the case?
long term ,this ruling if left unchallenged will effect his market and brand what do you think may happen ? Calendar companies start to produce Banksy calendars, ebay sellers sell Banksy everything, screen printers start producing copies of Banksy prints en masse, cant see any of that happening myself.... the licencee has no qualms what is made ,it is in their interest for as many companies as possible to apply to them to license the image , profits is the rule here . . maybe banksy as displayed in morons will now see his prints accessible to all , as he did not believe in the high prices the prints were selling for mr brainwash uses the image in question alot , now the company has gained copyright can they now seek compensation from all that has used the image from the start of the case?
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Lazarus II on Sept 17, 2020 15:39:47 GMT 1, what do you think may happen ? Calendar companies start to produce Banksy calendars, ebay sellers sell Banksy everything, screen printers start producing copies of Banksy prints en masse, cant see any of that happening myself.... Of course they will when his stuff sells for tens of thousands- Banksy is mainstream like it or not well I never....
what do you think may happen ? Calendar companies start to produce Banksy calendars, ebay sellers sell Banksy everything, screen printers start producing copies of Banksy prints en masse, cant see any of that happening myself.... Of course they will when his stuff sells for tens of thousands- Banksy is mainstream like it or not well I never....
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Lazarus II on Sept 17, 2020 15:41:10 GMT 1, Of course they will when his stuff sells for tens of thousands- Banksy is mainstream like it or not I think it was sarcasm😉 its a sad day when your wit is only picked up by a Fuckwit😂 i’ll get my coat.
Of course they will when his stuff sells for tens of thousands- Banksy is mainstream like it or not I think it was sarcasm😉 its a sad day when your wit is only picked up by a Fuckwit😂 i’ll get my coat.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Nuno on Sept 17, 2020 15:50:15 GMT 1, How so? the only thingg that would affect his market or " brand " is if he did in fact reveal himself in court...lol hes an artist he will create more art to challenge and mock the system. What he's been doing all along. So many of you seem to be so vested so concerned so interested in his future? Or more so your own future investments..... I think it will as every man and his dog will use his images, you'll see Banksy pyjamas, bed spreads- its given company's licence to do what they want.
They already do. You can get literally anything you want with a Banksy image on. Mouse Mats, mugs, calendars, t shirts, canvas prints. This will continue to be the case. It just means Banksy can’t stop this from happening Having allowed it for 20years? Not sure what the excitement is about?
How so? the only thingg that would affect his market or " brand " is if he did in fact reveal himself in court...lol hes an artist he will create more art to challenge and mock the system. What he's been doing all along. So many of you seem to be so vested so concerned so interested in his future? Or more so your own future investments..... I think it will as every man and his dog will use his images, you'll see Banksy pyjamas, bed spreads- its given company's licence to do what they want. They already do. You can get literally anything you want with a Banksy image on. Mouse Mats, mugs, calendars, t shirts, canvas prints. This will continue to be the case. It just means Banksy can’t stop this from happening Having allowed it for 20years? Not sure what the excitement is about?
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by tab1 on Sept 17, 2020 16:19:35 GMT 1, long term ,this ruling if left unchallenged will effect his market and brand How so? the only thingg that would affect his market or " brand " is if he did in fact reveal himself in court...lol hes an artist he will create more art to challenge and mock the system. What he's been doing all along. So many of you seem to be so vested so concerned so interested in his future? Or more so your own future investments..... not really other wise I would hold my thoughts to my self , the reactions of others are concerning their financial interests My pieces are bought many moons ago and if crashed not a loss as if bought at today’s prices , have lost much more on the stock markets Banksy is a carefully managed brand and business worth millions managed by a professional organization but people like to think he’s one free spirited individual on a crusade 😂 He’s the artist just the people he employed to run the business took their eye of the ball
long term ,this ruling if left unchallenged will effect his market and brand How so? the only thingg that would affect his market or " brand " is if he did in fact reveal himself in court...lol hes an artist he will create more art to challenge and mock the system. What he's been doing all along. So many of you seem to be so vested so concerned so interested in his future? Or more so your own future investments..... not really other wise I would hold my thoughts to my self , the reactions of others are concerning their financial interests My pieces are bought many moons ago and if crashed not a loss as if bought at today’s prices , have lost much more on the stock markets Banksy is a carefully managed brand and business worth millions managed by a professional organization but people like to think he’s one free spirited individual on a crusade 😂 He’s the artist just the people he employed to run the business took their eye of the ball
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Rubberneck on Sept 17, 2020 16:24:24 GMT 1, Banksy cant even get revenge by tagging their property as it’ll be worth a fortune
Banksy cant even get revenge by tagging their property as it’ll be worth a fortune
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by medichead on Sept 17, 2020 16:57:33 GMT 1, Am I the only one not seeing any real issue here? People are getting a little dramatic.
Seeing postcards, T-shirts, birthday cards, wrapping paper, calendars of Dali's, Rothko's, Warhol's doesn't make their work less valuable......why would you imagine this negatively affects the value of Banksy's official, certified, and limited output?
I feel like it's a sad day for artists' rights, and get that this might be a minor headache for Banksy et al., but come on...chill!
Am I the only one not seeing any real issue here? People are getting a little dramatic.
Seeing postcards, T-shirts, birthday cards, wrapping paper, calendars of Dali's, Rothko's, Warhol's doesn't make their work less valuable......why would you imagine this negatively affects the value of Banksy's official, certified, and limited output?
I feel like it's a sad day for artists' rights, and get that this might be a minor headache for Banksy et al., but come on...chill!
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by ubl on Sept 17, 2020 17:07:52 GMT 1, Am I the only one not seeing any real issue here? People are getting a little dramatic. Seeing postcards, T-shirts, birthday cards, wrapping paper, calendars of Dali's, Rothko's, Warhol's doesn't make their work less valuable......why would you imagine this negatively affects the value of Banksy's official, certified, and limited output? I feel like it's a sad day for artists' rights, and get that this might be a minor headache for Banksy et al., but come on...chill!
Whos not chill?
Am I the only one not seeing any real issue here? People are getting a little dramatic. Seeing postcards, T-shirts, birthday cards, wrapping paper, calendars of Dali's, Rothko's, Warhol's doesn't make their work less valuable......why would you imagine this negatively affects the value of Banksy's official, certified, and limited output? I feel like it's a sad day for artists' rights, and get that this might be a minor headache for Banksy et al., but come on...chill! Whos not chill?
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by sandinista on Sept 17, 2020 17:17:38 GMT 1, I wonder if Banksy paid for usage of the images he uses? There is a photo of him in his studio and a Tony Stone photo catalogue on the side. wonder if he paid them or just flicked through to find images?
Just ordered the new Banksy edition monopoly.
I wonder if Banksy paid for usage of the images he uses? There is a photo of him in his studio and a Tony Stone photo catalogue on the side. wonder if he paid them or just flicked through to find images?
Just ordered the new Banksy edition monopoly.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by sandinista on Sept 17, 2020 17:21:24 GMT 1, His next print. FCBLDM. Guess the sentence.
His next print. FCBLDM. Guess the sentence.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 17:23:27 GMT 1, Am I the only one not seeing any real issue here? People are getting a little dramatic. Seeing postcards, T-shirts, birthday cards, wrapping paper, calendars of Dali's, Rothko's, Warhol's doesn't make their work less valuable......why would you imagine this negatively affects the value of Banksy's official, certified, and limited output? I feel like it's a sad day for artists' rights, and get that this might be a minor headache for Banksy et al., but come on...chill!
I think it's the idea that the the guys who have stole it off Banksy will now only allow the image to be used if people pay them a licencing fee? Or do I have that wrong?
ie medicom paid them a fee to license the image for their statues
maybe it's a principle thing? Imagine that?
Am I the only one not seeing any real issue here? People are getting a little dramatic. Seeing postcards, T-shirts, birthday cards, wrapping paper, calendars of Dali's, Rothko's, Warhol's doesn't make their work less valuable......why would you imagine this negatively affects the value of Banksy's official, certified, and limited output? I feel like it's a sad day for artists' rights, and get that this might be a minor headache for Banksy et al., but come on...chill! I think it's the idea that the the guys who have stole it off Banksy will now only allow the image to be used if people pay them a licencing fee? Or do I have that wrong? ie medicom paid them a fee to license the image for their statues maybe it's a principle thing? Imagine that?
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by sycamore on Sept 17, 2020 17:31:41 GMT 1, The title of this thread is amazing. Banksy played the game. He created his niche. He’s cemented his place in art history. Banksy is a brand. Banksy is a corporate artist. Banksy isn’t Robin Hood. Banksy could create open editions like Shep. Banksy could sell his work with a contract not to be displayed in museums or galleries etc. Banksy took injustice and made it into a brand. His print market and VIP sales - his carefully orchestrated exhibits. There is a lot of work that went into all this to create this image of a man of the people. It’s capitalism at its finest. And I enjoy Banksy’s work and appreciate the charity work he does but Banksy is the art world. So Kaws gets a lot of slack for being too corporate and cashing it in. Banksy has been cashing it in for years now.
The title of this thread is amazing. Banksy played the game. He created his niche. He’s cemented his place in art history. Banksy is a brand. Banksy is a corporate artist. Banksy isn’t Robin Hood. Banksy could create open editions like Shep. Banksy could sell his work with a contract not to be displayed in museums or galleries etc. Banksy took injustice and made it into a brand. His print market and VIP sales - his carefully orchestrated exhibits. There is a lot of work that went into all this to create this image of a man of the people. It’s capitalism at its finest. And I enjoy Banksy’s work and appreciate the charity work he does but Banksy is the art world. So Kaws gets a lot of slack for being too corporate and cashing it in. Banksy has been cashing it in for years now.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by tab1 on Sept 17, 2020 18:00:22 GMT 1, Would be great for him to expose himself in court! I may have misread this. too much day dreaming about banksy 😮😬
Would be great for him to expose himself in court! I may have misread this. too much day dreaming about banksy 😮😬
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by robo on Sept 17, 2020 18:08:13 GMT 1, I'd say nothing that anyone else does with the flower thrower image affects that an authentic Banksy Flower Thrower is an authentic Banksy Flower Thrower.
I'd say nothing that anyone else does with the flower thrower image affects that an authentic Banksy Flower Thrower is an authentic Banksy Flower Thrower.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by jimbofatz on Sept 17, 2020 18:16:31 GMT 1, Did Banksy just lose a copyright claim to himself? I know this was first talked about when it came out but Full Colour Black was a one person deal and has had ties to banksy for years through brandalism and came out at the exact same time as the Banksy store. Surely Full Colour Black would have got crushed by the legal system vs Banksy deep pockets.
Did Banksy just lose a copyright claim to himself? I know this was first talked about when it came out but Full Colour Black was a one person deal and has had ties to banksy for years through brandalism and came out at the exact same time as the Banksy store. Surely Full Colour Black would have got crushed by the legal system vs Banksy deep pockets.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Terry Fuckwitt on Sept 17, 2020 18:55:52 GMT 1, 🤣
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by tab1 on Sept 17, 2020 19:41:35 GMT 1,
Banksy too vocal on the gdp site of his intentions has come back to bite him
This card company can set up a wcp outfit on a mass scale now 🙄
Banksy too vocal on the gdp site of his intentions has come back to bite him This card company can set up a wcp outfit on a mass scale now 🙄
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Pipes on Sept 17, 2020 20:41:05 GMT 1, That's how you frame a Flower Thrower !! Thats in the Italian gallery show - not to my taste but each to their own
Lots with similar frames in the show:
http://instagram.com/p/CE6V309DNEW
That's how you frame a Flower Thrower !! Thats in the Italian gallery show - not to my taste but each to their own Lots with similar frames in the show: http://instagram.com/p/CE6V309DNEW
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by sfnyc on Sept 17, 2020 20:53:51 GMT 1, I don't understand why he went for trademark when a copyright is enough to cover him from any unauthorized use, which he can claim was done for Pest Control, thus no need to reveal his identity.
I don't understand why he went for trademark when a copyright is enough to cover him from any unauthorized use, which he can claim was done for Pest Control, thus no need to reveal his identity.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by JockoLad on Sept 17, 2020 21:06:26 GMT 1, I don't understand why he went for trademark when a copyright is enough to cover him from any unauthorized use, which he can claim was done for Pest Control, thus no need to reveal his identity.
How much would it cost to ask every major news outlet to broadcast and advertise your name, perhaps even on a global scale?
More or less than the cost of the legal case and money made through sales via GDP?
I don't understand why he went for trademark when a copyright is enough to cover him from any unauthorized use, which he can claim was done for Pest Control, thus no need to reveal his identity. How much would it cost to ask every major news outlet to broadcast and advertise your name, perhaps even on a global scale? More or less than the cost of the legal case and money made through sales via GDP?
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Cool User Name on Sept 17, 2020 21:08:11 GMT 1, Because it was authorised by Pest Control but yes...this is not a print..just a postcard That's correct. "Courtesy of Pest Control Office, Banksy, Peckham Rock, 2005" on the back.
That's just what Banksy wrote on the end of the museum description card he placed with the piece when he planted it. When the British museum produced the postcard a few years ago they put it on the back. I don't think that equates to pest control approval.
Because it was authorised by Pest Control but yes...this is not a print..just a postcard That's correct. "Courtesy of Pest Control Office, Banksy, Peckham Rock, 2005" on the back. That's just what Banksy wrote on the end of the museum description card he placed with the piece when he planted it. When the British museum produced the postcard a few years ago they put it on the back. I don't think that equates to pest control approval.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by funyoung on Sept 17, 2020 21:08:11 GMT 1, Did Banksy just lose a copyright claim to himself? I know this was first talked about when it came out but Full Colour Black was a one person deal and has had ties to banksy for years through brandalism and came out at the exact same time as the Banksy store. Surely Full Colour Black would have got crushed by the legal system vs Banksy deep pockets. Er...no niceguyg please quiet down and stop pretending you know everything. This is a brilliant conspiracy theory we need to talk about more ...
Did Banksy just lose a copyright claim to himself? I know this was first talked about when it came out but Full Colour Black was a one person deal and has had ties to banksy for years through brandalism and came out at the exact same time as the Banksy store. Surely Full Colour Black would have got crushed by the legal system vs Banksy deep pockets. Er...no niceguyg please quiet down and stop pretending you know everything. This is a brilliant conspiracy theory we need to talk about more ...
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Terry Fuckwitt on Sept 17, 2020 21:11:13 GMT 1, That's correct. "Courtesy of Pest Control Office, Banksy, Peckham Rock, 2005" on the back. That's just what Banksy wrote on the end of the museum description card he placed with the piece when he planted it. When the British museum produced the postcard a few years ago they put it on the back. I don't think that equates to pest control approval.
No, it didn't.
That's correct. "Courtesy of Pest Control Office, Banksy, Peckham Rock, 2005" on the back. That's just what Banksy wrote on the end of the museum description card he placed with the piece when he planted it. When the British museum produced the postcard a few years ago they put it on the back. I don't think that equates to pest control approval. No, it didn't.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by JW on Sept 17, 2020 21:59:38 GMT 1, That’s Gerard Deperdiue isn’t it? In his younger days Jesus, you're right!
No comment...
That’s Gerard Deperdiue isn’t it? In his younger days Jesus, you're right! No comment...
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by jimbofatz on Sept 17, 2020 22:09:10 GMT 1, Well he looks to be the right age and is still wearing raver beads. Id say this is an inside deal and not some brilliant legal strategist.
Well he looks to be the right age and is still wearing raver beads. Id say this is an inside deal and not some brilliant legal strategist.
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