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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by JW on Sept 17, 2020 12:48:26 GMT 1, This may burst the bubble everyone has been quoting for so long ? Yes . Not a good time to be paying life changing money . He could reprint all for revenge
Revenge on who? (I get what you're saying, but that would be cutting your nose off to spite your face).
This may burst the bubble everyone has been quoting for so long ? Yes . Not a good time to be paying life changing money . He could reprint all for revenge Revenge on who? (I get what you're saying, but that would be cutting your nose off to spite your face). |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Terry Fuckwitt on Sept 17, 2020 12:53:31 GMT 1, How the hell as full colour black not got any Google reviews...yet
How the hell as full colour black not got any Google reviews...yet
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by iamzero on Sept 17, 2020 12:53:50 GMT 1, I still don’t understand how this is all possible? I create an image and clearly the world can see it’s mine. Yet another company can claim the rights to selling my image on for profit. While in other news a car or clothing company can’t use a legitimate image of their product because in the background is a piece a graffiti artist painted illegally for fun.
What am I missing?
I still don’t understand how this is all possible? I create an image and clearly the world can see it’s mine. Yet another company can claim the rights to selling my image on for profit. While in other news a car or clothing company can’t use a legitimate image of their product because in the background is a piece a graffiti artist painted illegally for fun.
What am I missing?
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by JW on Sept 17, 2020 12:58:06 GMT 1, How the hell as full colour black not got any Google reviews...yet
Barely any comments on their Instagram/Twitter/Facebook posts.
How the hell as full colour black not got any Google reviews...yet You know what else is weird? Barely any comments on their Instagram/Twitter/Facebook posts. |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by tab1 on Sept 17, 2020 12:59:35 GMT 1, On eBay there are hundreds of knock off items for sale. Every week there are dozens of copy products in small auction houses around the world, I cannot see what difference this is going to make. The comment that this is "devastating for the artist" is farcical. No one on here is going to buy tat from Full Colour Black.
The company owns the image and rights
Any litas needing a pest control certificate after the day of copyright judgement Can they still apply ?
The new gdp litas made during the Court dispute , Will they have to be withdrawn or will banksy need to pay the card company a percentage for use of the image ?
The other gdp items are new images so hopefully banksy applies copyright to the other images .
A lot of money to be made in licensing the rights to others
On eBay there are hundreds of knock off items for sale. Every week there are dozens of copy products in small auction houses around the world, I cannot see what difference this is going to make. The comment that this is "devastating for the artist" is farcical. No one on here is going to buy tat from Full Colour Black. The company owns the image and rights Any litas needing a pest control certificate after the day of copyright judgement Can they still apply ? The new gdp litas made during the Court dispute , Will they have to be withdrawn or will banksy need to pay the card company a percentage for use of the image ? The other gdp items are new images so hopefully banksy applies copyright to the other images . A lot of money to be made in licensing the rights to others |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by ubl on Sept 17, 2020 13:03:13 GMT 1, Could you petition this, would be great to have someone less lazy and more interrigent then me to do that, Ill sign...
Could you petition this, would be great to have someone less lazy and more interrigent then me to do that, Ill sign...
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Terry Fuckwitt on Sept 17, 2020 13:03:38 GMT 1, How the hell as full colour black not got any Google reviews...yet You know what else is weird? Barely any comments on their Instagram/Twitter/Facebook posts.
I remember they made a brief appearance here last year, but were quickly told to fuck off🤣
How the hell as full colour black not got any Google reviews...yet You know what else is weird? Barely any comments on their Instagram/Twitter/Facebook posts. I remember they made a brief appearance here last year, but were quickly told to fuck off🤣 |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by medichead on Sept 17, 2020 13:08:10 GMT 1, I think in real terms this will be less of an issue than it seems now.
Unfortunate decision all round, though.
I think in real terms this will be less of an issue than it seems now.
Unfortunate decision all round, though.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by kfroms on Sept 17, 2020 13:09:18 GMT 1, I still don’t understand how this is all possible? I create an image and clearly the world can see it’s mine. Yet another company can claim the rights to selling my image on for profit. While in other news a car or clothing company can’t use a legitimate image of their product because in the background is a piece a graffiti artist painted illegally for fun. What am I missing?
I still don’t understand how this is all possible? I create an image and clearly the world can see it’s mine. Yet another company can claim the rights to selling my image on for profit. While in other news a car or clothing company can’t use a legitimate image of their product because in the background is a piece a graffiti artist painted illegally for fun. What am I missing? Team Banksy should have properly claimed the rights. They did not, according to the judge. |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by tab1 on Sept 17, 2020 13:12:40 GMT 1, I still don’t understand how this is all possible? I create an image and clearly the world can see it’s mine. Yet another company can claim the rights to selling my image on for profit. While in other news a car or clothing company can’t use a legitimate image of their product because in the background is a piece a graffiti artist painted illegally for fun. What am I missing?
Without being present for the case details from court and reading from the news outlets
Banksy presented as a graffiti artist , displaying art illegally without owners permission On public and private buildings , which is a criminal public order offense , which the defense would disclose with the internet webtrail. Which although famous for his artwork the judge will have a different view
His works have been selling for hundreds of thousands of gdp since 2006 and even a millions since 2009 and as noted all the history of knock off items on the web since 2005 And Unaffiliated shows around the World since 2006 the banksy team Had not put in place a copyright challenge until 2013 And had not used the lita image until gdp commercially
Mr brainwash has been using the same image for the past 10 years ? And not challenged on a grand commercial scale and profiting
The card company is onto a winner
Will have a knock on effect and the company will now seek other images to gain control of the copyright
I still don’t understand how this is all possible? I create an image and clearly the world can see it’s mine. Yet another company can claim the rights to selling my image on for profit. While in other news a car or clothing company can’t use a legitimate image of their product because in the background is a piece a graffiti artist painted illegally for fun. What am I missing? Without being present for the case details from court and reading from the news outlets Banksy presented as a graffiti artist , displaying art illegally without owners permission On public and private buildings , which is a criminal public order offense , which the defense would disclose with the internet webtrail. Which although famous for his artwork the judge will have a different view His works have been selling for hundreds of thousands of gdp since 2006 and even a millions since 2009 and as noted all the history of knock off items on the web since 2005 And Unaffiliated shows around the World since 2006 the banksy team Had not put in place a copyright challenge until 2013 And had not used the lita image until gdp commercially Mr brainwash has been using the same image for the past 10 years ? And not challenged on a grand commercial scale and profiting The card company is onto a winner Will have a knock on effect and the company will now seek other images to gain control of the copyright |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by pagerage on Sept 17, 2020 13:14:10 GMT 1, Tab1 take a lap
Tab1 take a lap
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by tab1 on Sept 17, 2020 13:15:36 GMT 1,
Pass the baton
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Terry Fuckwitt on Sept 17, 2020 13:15:58 GMT 1, They need their premises decorated
They need their premises decorated
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by tab1 on Sept 17, 2020 13:20:18 GMT 1, Interesting to see the accounts for the card company next year for licensing profits of the image concerned
Interesting to see the accounts for the card company next year for licensing profits of the image concerned
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by tab1 on Sept 17, 2020 13:22:01 GMT 1, ...And had not used the lita image until gdp commercially It was used commercially on an album cover 20 years ago.
Plenty of time to had put the business in order and protect the images
Jo brooks needs a salary reduction😮
Insiders knew shortcomings of the case , hence all the recent auctions ?
Will be interesting to see auction results over the next few months
...And had not used the lita image until gdp commercially It was used commercially on an album cover 20 years ago.
Plenty of time to had put the business in order and protect the images Jo brooks needs a salary reduction😮 Insiders knew shortcomings of the case , hence all the recent auctions ? Will be interesting to see auction results over the next few months |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Woodey1001 on Sept 17, 2020 13:27:42 GMT 1, ...And had not used the lita image until gdp commercially It was used commercially on an album cover 20 years ago.
Also on walled off Hotel souvenirs.. might be just after the case though.
http://instagram.com/p/CBhDnUGnp7w
...And had not used the lita image until gdp commercially It was used commercially on an album cover 20 years ago.
Also on walled off Hotel souvenirs.. might be just after the case though. http://instagram.com/p/CBhDnUGnp7w |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by silvermyn on Sept 17, 2020 13:38:41 GMT 1, If Banksy wanted to put these people out of business all he had to do was set up an online shop and sell merchandise to the public. Call is Gross Domestic Product perhaps, or Bbay.
But that's not the business that Banksy is in. GDP pretended to sell unlimited editions to the public but it was all a lottery, answers to a question, and no unlimited merchandise in the form of t-shirts, mugs or plates unless you were "selected" to buy one of the small number available. If they want to change that they can, but they won't because selling cheap merchandise is not what they want to spend their time doing.
The Soup Can posters for £10 each from POW was the first example I can remember of cheap unlimited Banksy product and we've seen a similar model followed with Peckham Rock. It all just went a bit off concept with GDP. Will we ever see anything like the Soup Can posters again? Unlikely but you never know. Dropshipping is a thing now.
If Banksy wanted to put these people out of business all he had to do was set up an online shop and sell merchandise to the public. Call is Gross Domestic Product perhaps, or Bbay.
But that's not the business that Banksy is in. GDP pretended to sell unlimited editions to the public but it was all a lottery, answers to a question, and no unlimited merchandise in the form of t-shirts, mugs or plates unless you were "selected" to buy one of the small number available. If they want to change that they can, but they won't because selling cheap merchandise is not what they want to spend their time doing.
The Soup Can posters for £10 each from POW was the first example I can remember of cheap unlimited Banksy product and we've seen a similar model followed with Peckham Rock. It all just went a bit off concept with GDP. Will we ever see anything like the Soup Can posters again? Unlikely but you never know. Dropshipping is a thing now.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by JD on Sept 17, 2020 13:43:19 GMT 1, Yes . Not a good time to be paying life changing money . He could reprint all for revenge Revenge on who? (I get what you're saying, but that would be cutting your nose off to spite your face).
He’s an anarchist no ?
Yes . Not a good time to be paying life changing money . He could reprint all for revenge Revenge on who? (I get what you're saying, but that would be cutting your nose off to spite your face). He’s an anarchist no ? |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by iamzero on Sept 17, 2020 13:47:10 GMT 1, But didn’t he use the image commercially when he made the LIITA screen print?
But didn’t he use the image commercially when he made the LIITA screen print?
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Woodey1001 on Sept 17, 2020 13:52:36 GMT 1, Peckham rock is a museum postcard isn't it? Why do people think it's an official Banksy print.
Wierd.
Peckham rock is a museum postcard isn't it? Why do people think it's an official Banksy print.
Wierd.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by tab1 on Sept 17, 2020 13:53:32 GMT 1, It was used commercially on an album cover 20 years ago.
Also on walled off Hotel souvenirs.. might be just after the case though. http://instagr.am/p/CBhDnUGnp7w
After
It was used commercially on an album cover 20 years ago.
Also on walled off Hotel souvenirs.. might be just after the case though. http://instagr.am/p/CBhDnUGnp7w After |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by antony on Sept 17, 2020 13:54:00 GMT 1, Peckham rock is a museum postcard isn't it? Why do people think it's an official Banksy print. Wierd.
Because it was authorised by Pest Control
but yes...this is not a print..just a postcard
Peckham rock is a museum postcard isn't it? Why do people think it's an official Banksy print. Wierd. Because it was authorised by Pest Control but yes...this is not a print..just a postcard |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by tab1 on Sept 17, 2020 14:01:21 GMT 1, www.jeditemplearchives.com/2018-09-16-the-cost-of-hasbros-star-wars-license/
Posted earlier in the thread , licensing is a valuable asset and the card company is set for a bumper pay day with all the interest in banksy of recent and the average person unable to afford original banksy items let alone original posters the mass products they can manufacture with the copyright applied many will think they are buying a genuine banksy
www.jeditemplearchives.com/2018-09-16-the-cost-of-hasbros-star-wars-license/Posted earlier in the thread , licensing is a valuable asset and the card company is set for a bumper pay day with all the interest in banksy of recent and the average person unable to afford original banksy items let alone original posters the mass products they can manufacture with the copyright applied many will think they are buying a genuine banksy
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by silvermyn on Sept 17, 2020 14:03:34 GMT 1, Peckham rock is a museum postcard isn't it? Why do people think it's an official Banksy print. Wierd. Because it was authorised by Pest Control but yes...this is not a print..just a postcard
Peckham rock is a museum postcard isn't it? Why do people think it's an official Banksy print. Wierd. Because it was authorised by Pest Control but yes...this is not a print..just a postcard That's correct. "Courtesy of Pest Control Office, Banksy, Peckham Rock, 2005" on the back. |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by letterpressed on Sept 17, 2020 14:11:19 GMT 1, I wonder if they decide to appeal and Banksy decides that this is so serious that he needs to reveal himself/herself/themselves to contest this decision...
Sounds like the anonymity irritated the panel!
Would be great for him to expose himself in court!
Interesting for sure...
I wonder if they decide to appeal and Banksy decides that this is so serious that he needs to reveal himself/herself/themselves to contest this decision...
Sounds like the anonymity irritated the panel!
Would be great for him to expose himself in court!
Interesting for sure...
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by marquis on Sept 17, 2020 14:13:17 GMT 1, As quoted in the Guardian article, the EU trademark panel stated the GDP store sold “impractical and offensive” merchandise...including disco balls made from used police riot helmets as well as replicas of the stab vest worn by Stormzy during his Glastonbury headline set in 2019"
As quoted in the Guardian article, the EU trademark panel stated the GDP store sold “i mpractical and offensive” merchandise...including disco balls made from used police riot helmets as well as replicas of the stab vest worn by Stormzy during his Glastonbury headline set in 2019" |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by coller on Sept 17, 2020 14:28:48 GMT 1, Would be great for him to expose himself in court!
Would be great for him to expose himself in court! I may have misread this. |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by letterpressed on Sept 17, 2020 14:30:46 GMT 1, Would be great for him to expose himself in court! I may have misread this.
Would be great for him to expose himself in court! I may have misread this. Nope, I think you may have read it correctly :-) |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Woodey1001 on Sept 17, 2020 14:35:08 GMT 1, Because it was authorised by Pest Control but yes...this is not a print..just a postcard That's correct. "Courtesy of Pest Control Office, Banksy, Peckham Rock, 2005" on the back.
It's still just a museum postcard. Many more and bigger blue chip artists sell these everywhere. Bit wierd putting value on them. Smacks of desperation.
Because it was authorised by Pest Control but yes...this is not a print..just a postcard That's correct. "Courtesy of Pest Control Office, Banksy, Peckham Rock, 2005" on the back. It's still just a museum postcard. Many more and bigger blue chip artists sell these everywhere. Bit wierd putting value on them. Smacks of desperation. |
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by tab1 on Sept 17, 2020 15:14:33 GMT 1, I wonder if they decide to appeal and Banksy decides that this is so serious that he needs to reveal himself/herself/themselves to contest this decision... Sounds like the anonymity irritated the panel! Would be great for him to expose himself in court! Interesting for sure...
I wonder if they decide to appeal and Banksy decides that this is so serious that he needs to reveal himself/herself/themselves to contest this decision... Sounds like the anonymity irritated the panel! Would be great for him to expose himself in court! Interesting for sure... long term ,this ruling if left unchallenged will effect his market and brand |
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