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Guy Denning
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Guy Denning on Feb 26, 2019 12:07:17 GMT 1, What about the West Country Prince then ..... i think that WCP as a special status .. He posted an email this morning saying they're all back on sale on the fleebay again... Clearly he doesn't give a monkey's detonator...
What about the West Country Prince then ..... i think that WCP as a special status .. He posted an email this morning saying they're all back on sale on the fleebay again... Clearly he doesn't give a monkey's detonator...
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by tonys on Feb 26, 2019 18:40:33 GMT 1, there's a difference with a flea stall in Notting Hill making a few bob off the tourists and making 'semi' official t-shirts, organising exhibitions (in his name), charging door entry etc. not exactly copyright reasons, but people making large on his reputation.
there's a difference with a flea stall in Notting Hill making a few bob off the tourists and making 'semi' official t-shirts, organising exhibitions (in his name), charging door entry etc. not exactly copyright reasons, but people making large on his reputation.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Not 4 The Thril on Feb 26, 2019 22:15:41 GMT 1, interesting read. as some of you mentioned before i think its more to do with the unauthorized exhibitions that keep popping up and charging a lot to see his work. thats why he added that page on his website showing everything he has done was either free or just $3.
couldnt pest control just copyright the image under their corporation without banksy having to give his name? i mean pest control is obviously linked to someone elses name- why would it matter?
interesting read. as some of you mentioned before i think its more to do with the unauthorized exhibitions that keep popping up and charging a lot to see his work. thats why he added that page on his website showing everything he has done was either free or just $3.
couldnt pest control just copyright the image under their corporation without banksy having to give his name? i mean pest control is obviously linked to someone elses name- why would it matter?
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by tab1 on Feb 27, 2019 1:44:49 GMT 1, Take away all the tat , fake merchandise , wcp prints , unofficial shows etc leaves little to the general public to engage with , the market as is , is out of reach of the general public also if they do produce prints it is not affordable to the general public and only to VIP circles .keeps the brand alive as is and free publicity
Copyright claims now , would be compensated a % of sold items ?would be profitable for banksy. Wcp ceases , they might be worth something then 😁
Take away all the tat , fake merchandise , wcp prints , unofficial shows etc leaves little to the general public to engage with , the market as is , is out of reach of the general public also if they do produce prints it is not affordable to the general public and only to VIP circles .keeps the brand alive as is and free publicity
Copyright claims now , would be compensated a % of sold items ?would be profitable for banksy. Wcp ceases , they might be worth something then 😁
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 27, 2019 2:09:43 GMT 1, Why does he care about these unauthorized shows. It only boosts his brand.
Why does he care about these unauthorized shows. It only boosts his brand.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 7:06:52 GMT 1, Why does he care about these unauthorized shows. It only boosts his brand. maybe he wants to control what boosts his brand if he wants his brand boosted ?
Why does he care about these unauthorized shows. It only boosts his brand. maybe he wants to control what boosts his brand if he wants his brand boosted ?
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 27, 2019 12:50:25 GMT 1, Why does he care about these unauthorized shows. It only boosts his brand. maybe he wants to control what boosts his brand if he wants his brand boosted ?
Would be interesting change in banksy then. I'm shocked this is getting such little attention.
MSM!
Why does he care about these unauthorized shows. It only boosts his brand. maybe he wants to control what boosts his brand if he wants his brand boosted ? Would be interesting change in banksy then. I'm shocked this is getting such little attention. MSM!
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Happy Shopper on Feb 27, 2019 13:26:03 GMT 1, Why does he care about these unauthorized shows. It only boosts his brand. maybe he wants to control what boosts his brand if he wants his brand boosted ? Agreed, and even more importantly, he doesn't want the public charged to view things that at his own shows are free, feel ripped of by a small/bad show, or for them to be under the illusion that bad merchandise is official.
Why does he care about these unauthorized shows. It only boosts his brand. maybe he wants to control what boosts his brand if he wants his brand boosted ? Agreed, and even more importantly, he doesn't want the public charged to view things that at his own shows are free, feel ripped of by a small/bad show, or for them to be under the illusion that bad merchandise is official.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 13:47:23 GMT 1, maybe he wants to control what boosts his brand if he wants his brand boosted ? Would be interesting change in banksy then. I'm shocked this is getting such little attention. MSM! mibbe he just does this to see what response it’ll provoke from you?
maybe he wants to control what boosts his brand if he wants his brand boosted ? Would be interesting change in banksy then. I'm shocked this is getting such little attention. MSM! mibbe he just does this to see what response it’ll provoke from you?
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 13:51:00 GMT 1, maybe he wants to control what boosts his brand if he wants his brand boosted ? Would be interesting change in banksy then. I'm shocked this is getting such little attention. MSM! we’ve been through this before, but if he genuinely wanted to boost his brand or his coffers, why would he not just release new prints en masse ?
maybe he wants to control what boosts his brand if he wants his brand boosted ? Would be interesting change in banksy then. I'm shocked this is getting such little attention. MSM! we’ve been through this before, but if he genuinely wanted to boost his brand or his coffers, why would he not just release new prints en masse ?
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 27, 2019 16:25:49 GMT 1, Would be interesting change in banksy then. I'm shocked this is getting such little attention. MSM! we’ve been through this before, but if he genuinely wanted to boost his brand or his coffers, why would he not just release new prints en masse ?
Answer to that is clear. Keep existing prices high.
Would be interesting change in banksy then. I'm shocked this is getting such little attention. MSM! we’ve been through this before, but if he genuinely wanted to boost his brand or his coffers, why would he not just release new prints en masse ? Answer to that is clear. Keep existing prices high.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 27, 2019 16:26:30 GMT 1, maybe he wants to control what boosts his brand if he wants his brand boosted ? Agreed, and even more importantly, he doesn't want the public charged to view things that at his own shows are free, feel ripped of by a small/bad show, or for them to be under the illusion that bad merchandise is official.
But this has been going on for so long. Why now?
maybe he wants to control what boosts his brand if he wants his brand boosted ? Agreed, and even more importantly, he doesn't want the public charged to view things that at his own shows are free, feel ripped of by a small/bad show, or for them to be under the illusion that bad merchandise is official. But this has been going on for so long. Why now?
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 17:13:55 GMT 1, Agreed, and even more importantly, he doesn't want the public charged to view things that at his own shows are free, feel ripped of by a small/bad show, or for them to be under the illusion that bad merchandise is official. But this has been going on for so long. Why now?
has it?
how many 'fake' shows were there 5 years ago?
How many 'fake' shows last year?
Is it increasing?
If it is, do you think that's why they might be doing it now?
If it isn't, then why not do it now?
Agreed, and even more importantly, he doesn't want the public charged to view things that at his own shows are free, feel ripped of by a small/bad show, or for them to be under the illusion that bad merchandise is official. But this has been going on for so long. Why now? has it? how many 'fake' shows were there 5 years ago? How many 'fake' shows last year? Is it increasing? If it is, do you think that's why they might be doing it now? If it isn't, then why not do it now?
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 27, 2019 20:31:12 GMT 1, But this has been going on for so long. Why now? has it? how many 'fake' shows were there 5 years ago? How many 'fake' shows last year? Is it increasing? If it is, do you think that's why they might be doing it now? If it isn't, then why not do it now?
What makes it a fake show?
Not being put on by banksy?
These shows have real banksy artwork no?
But this has been going on for so long. Why now? has it? how many 'fake' shows were there 5 years ago? How many 'fake' shows last year? Is it increasing? If it is, do you think that's why they might be doing it now? If it isn't, then why not do it now? What makes it a fake show? Not being put on by banksy? These shows have real banksy artwork no?
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 21:26:48 GMT 1, has it? how many 'fake' shows were there 5 years ago? How many 'fake' shows last year? Is it increasing? If it is, do you think that's why they might be doing it now? If it isn't, then why not do it now? What makes it a fake show? Not being put on by banksy? These shows have real banksy artwork no? http://instagram.com/p/BmgWWO9BvwT
has it? how many 'fake' shows were there 5 years ago? How many 'fake' shows last year? Is it increasing? If it is, do you think that's why they might be doing it now? If it isn't, then why not do it now? What makes it a fake show? Not being put on by banksy? These shows have real banksy artwork no? http://instagram.com/p/BmgWWO9BvwT
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 27, 2019 22:12:05 GMT 1,
Same questions stand...
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 28, 2019 17:09:04 GMT 1,
Banksy fans when he sells out and starts suing for copyright infringement.
Banksy fans when he sells out and starts suing for copyright infringement.
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moron
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by moron on Feb 28, 2019 22:49:20 GMT 1, has it? how many 'fake' shows were there 5 years ago? How many 'fake' shows last year? Is it increasing? If it is, do you think that's why they might be doing it now? If it isn't, then why not do it now? What makes it a fake show? Not being put on by banksy? These shows have real banksy artwork no? In a nutshell. Any dealer or gallery or person can put on an art (selling) show of borrowed art as in originals and prints made by any artist living or dead.
It does not give them the right to produce merchandise from those images. To do that requires copyright permission. The problem that arises or rather confusion is in that the public visit the exhibition or show and buy the merchandise believing it is official as opposed to knock off or pirated images.
has it? how many 'fake' shows were there 5 years ago? How many 'fake' shows last year? Is it increasing? If it is, do you think that's why they might be doing it now? If it isn't, then why not do it now? What makes it a fake show? Not being put on by banksy? These shows have real banksy artwork no? In a nutshell. Any dealer or gallery or person can put on an art (selling) show of borrowed art as in originals and prints made by any artist living or dead. It does not give them the right to produce merchandise from those images. To do that requires copyright permission. The problem that arises or rather confusion is in that the public visit the exhibition or show and buy the merchandise believing it is official as opposed to knock off or pirated images.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 28, 2019 23:28:43 GMT 1, What makes it a fake show? Not being put on by banksy? These shows have real banksy artwork no? In a nutshell. Any dealer or gallery or person can put on an art (selling) show of borrowed art as in originals and prints made by any artist living or dead. It does not give them the right to produce merchandise from those images. To do that requires copyright permission. The problem that arises or rather confusion is in that the public visit the exhibition or show and buy the merchandise believing it is official as opposed to knock off or pirated images.
People believe it's official merchandise?
Come on.
Guess they also think that enhanced Monet oil at the National Gallery of Art is a real Monet too.
What makes it a fake show? Not being put on by banksy? These shows have real banksy artwork no? In a nutshell. Any dealer or gallery or person can put on an art (selling) show of borrowed art as in originals and prints made by any artist living or dead. It does not give them the right to produce merchandise from those images. To do that requires copyright permission. The problem that arises or rather confusion is in that the public visit the exhibition or show and buy the merchandise believing it is official as opposed to knock off or pirated images. People believe it's official merchandise? Come on. Guess they also think that enhanced Monet oil at the National Gallery of Art is a real Monet too.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 28, 2019 23:30:53 GMT 1, Are the peckham rock post cards official banksy merchandise?
Are the peckham rock post cards official banksy merchandise?
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by moron on Feb 28, 2019 23:38:05 GMT 1, In a nutshell. Any dealer or gallery or person can put on an art (selling) show of borrowed art as in originals and prints made by any artist living or dead. It does not give them the right to produce merchandise from those images. To do that requires copyright permission. The problem that arises or rather confusion is in that the public visit the exhibition or show and buy the merchandise believing it is official as opposed to knock off or pirated images. People believe it's official merchandise? Come on. Guess they also think that enhanced Monet oil at the National Gallery of Art is a real Monet too. Selling exhibitions advertised and promoted by dealers as non commercial ventures. Sell merchandise to make a profit. They of all people should know about copyright and piracy.
They often play clever with words in advertising and let the public believe what they want to believe.
Next time there is one of these Banksy art exhibitions, ask to speak to the organisers and ask them in a loud voice if the merchandise is official sanctioned by Banksy or unofficial and don't be surprised to get no answer or shown the door.
In a nutshell. Any dealer or gallery or person can put on an art (selling) show of borrowed art as in originals and prints made by any artist living or dead. It does not give them the right to produce merchandise from those images. To do that requires copyright permission. The problem that arises or rather confusion is in that the public visit the exhibition or show and buy the merchandise believing it is official as opposed to knock off or pirated images. People believe it's official merchandise? Come on. Guess they also think that enhanced Monet oil at the National Gallery of Art is a real Monet too. Selling exhibitions advertised and promoted by dealers as non commercial ventures. Sell merchandise to make a profit. They of all people should know about copyright and piracy. They often play clever with words in advertising and let the public believe what they want to believe. Next time there is one of these Banksy art exhibitions, ask to speak to the organisers and ask them in a loud voice if the merchandise is official sanctioned by Banksy or unofficial and don't be surprised to get no answer or shown the door.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Chris JL on Mar 1, 2019 10:55:08 GMT 1, Pretty sure that the merchandising was just the legal casus belli to be able to go after yet another unauthorised exhibition. Totally in line with Banksy’s team stand on these events (the Milan event is the second from the top): www.banksy.co.uk/shows.asp
Pretty sure that the merchandising was just the legal casus belli to be able to go after yet another unauthorised exhibition. Totally in line with Banksy’s team stand on these events (the Milan event is the second from the top): www.banksy.co.uk/shows.asp
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by rebate on Mar 1, 2019 11:06:35 GMT 1, Always said this would make a great pension pot. More power to him.
Didnt someone once say "i hope i die before i get old"? He changed his mind too.
Always said this would make a great pension pot. More power to him.
Didnt someone once say "i hope i die before i get old"? He changed his mind too.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Rouen Cathedral on Mar 1, 2019 15:31:20 GMT 1,
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by moron on Mar 7, 2019 21:17:58 GMT 1, Banksy fans when he sells out and starts suing for copyright infringement. I get where you are coming from.
"copyright is for losers" "better to steal, then ask permission later" or something similar.
"great artists steal"
and other words of wisdom from Banksy, now it looks like there is some hypocrisy involved as Banksy has gone from graffiti vandal to a world wide brand.
Banksy has not always been factual or true in some of his slogans and statements made on walls.
It appears to be the sort of stuff that armchair anarchists like the sound of without bothering to look into the actual logic or meaning.
Maybe there is no Banksy, it's just a brand and the art on walls over recent years just a viral advertising campaign by some suits or hipsters behind the brand.
In the Sotheby's blurb it says 2003, Banksy was part owner of POW until 2018.
According to UK company rules, any person with significant control, over 25%, name has to be declared.
The UK companies house website doesn't show anyone leaving in 2018 and shows Mark Chambers as having significant control since 2016.
Maybe Banksy was an employee or maybe there never was a Banksy for many years.
beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05143539
Banksy fans when he sells out and starts suing for copyright infringement. I get where you are coming from. "copyright is for losers" "better to steal, then ask permission later" or something similar. "great artists steal" and other words of wisdom from Banksy, now it looks like there is some hypocrisy involved as Banksy has gone from graffiti vandal to a world wide brand. Banksy has not always been factual or true in some of his slogans and statements made on walls. It appears to be the sort of stuff that armchair anarchists like the sound of without bothering to look into the actual logic or meaning. Maybe there is no Banksy, it's just a brand and the art on walls over recent years just a viral advertising campaign by some suits or hipsters behind the brand. In the Sotheby's blurb it says 2003, Banksy was part owner of POW until 2018. According to UK company rules, any person with significant control, over 25%, name has to be declared. The UK companies house website doesn't show anyone leaving in 2018 and shows Mark Chambers as having significant control since 2016. Maybe Banksy was an employee or maybe there never was a Banksy for many years. beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05143539
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by moron on Mar 11, 2019 0:26:37 GMT 1, How much is a gram of what you're taking Moron ? and where can I get some ? There is no Banksy.
How much is a gram of what you're taking Moron ? and where can I get some ? There is no Banksy.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Not 4 The Thril on Mar 11, 2019 3:22:53 GMT 1,
Saw this shirt on sale at Saks Fifth Avenue- an upscale US department store for $48.00.
Cheap street knock offs are one thing but if expensive clothing companies are using his work to sell in legit stores- I see why he is pissed.
Saw this shirt on sale at Saks Fifth Avenue- an upscale US department store for $48.00. Cheap street knock offs are one thing but if expensive clothing companies are using his work to sell in legit stores- I see why he is pissed.
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Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™, by Dunning Kruger on Mar 11, 2019 11:14:37 GMT 1, Seems very hypocritical, imposing copyright on a show like Mudec, but allows Moco Museum in Amsterdam to continue to sell unauthorised merchandise. If I were the legal team at Mudec I would seek advice on taking action against Banksy/Pest Control. I suppose Lionel Logchies being able to buy direct, as well as buying streetworks for the purposes of the show, will not hinder your abilities to promote and sell unauthorised merchandise.
Copyright is for Losers @banksy
Seems very hypocritical, imposing copyright on a show like Mudec, but allows Moco Museum in Amsterdam to continue to sell unauthorised merchandise. If I were the legal team at Mudec I would seek advice on taking action against Banksy/Pest Control. I suppose Lionel Logchies being able to buy direct, as well as buying streetworks for the purposes of the show, will not hinder your abilities to promote and sell unauthorised merchandise.
Copyright is for Losers @banksy
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