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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by Tax and Shipping on Oct 18, 2020 8:12:53 GMT 1, The difference with the declaration poster was that it wasn’t a numbered edition, right?
Edit:
My bad, was thinking of the Circa Edition:
circa.art/the-circa-economy/
The difference with the declaration poster was that it wasn’t a numbered edition, right? Correct - time limited... for like a whole month! Edit: My bad, was thinking of the Circa Edition: circa.art/the-circa-economy/ |
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by ajr on Oct 18, 2020 8:45:33 GMT 1, Love it when first thing people talk about is the potential value rather than the art itself....
Love it when first thing people talk about is the potential value rather than the art itself....
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by blando on Oct 18, 2020 11:06:24 GMT 1, These were an edition of 27. The signed declaration
well when I bought one that’s what I thought anyway!
These were an edition of 27. The signed declaration
well when I bought one that’s what I thought anyway!
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by quinn on Oct 18, 2020 11:13:21 GMT 1, The difference with the declaration poster was that it wasn’t a numbered edition, right?
its not numbered on the poster but it was only 27 that were signed. The rest of the posters are unsigned
Edit : I have a email to confirm this from cashiers de art
The difference with the declaration poster was that it wasn’t a numbered edition, right? its not numbered on the poster but it was only 27 that were signed. The rest of the posters are unsigned Edit : I have a email to confirm this from cashiers de art |
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by quinn on Oct 18, 2020 12:01:35 GMT 1,
there talking about the other signed poster the declaration of the rights of man I think? Edition of 27
there talking about the other signed poster the declaration of the rights of man I think? Edition of 27 |
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by samo on Oct 18, 2020 13:29:55 GMT 1, I had the pleasure meeting Ai WeiWei 3 years ago. He was a bit shy but very approachable.
We spoke a bit about his movie Human Flow that had just come out.
He signed something for me and I shook his 'famous' hand.
At that meeting I remember seeing him signing a few Artits's Hands and Odyssey prints. He seemed receptive about signing things related to him.
I had the pleasure meeting Ai WeiWei 3 years ago. He was a bit shy but very approachable. We spoke a bit about his movie Human Flow that had just come out. He signed something for me and I shook his 'famous' hand. At that meeting I remember seeing him signing a few Artits's Hands and Odyssey prints. He seemed receptive about signing things related to him.
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by orchid on Oct 18, 2020 14:30:20 GMT 1,
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by Petrusino on Oct 25, 2020 14:03:43 GMT 1, Did someone receive the payment request for the edition?
Did someone receive the payment request for the edition?
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by Ravnur 2020 on Oct 25, 2020 15:35:12 GMT 1, My payment was taken of my card when I bought it at release.
My payment was taken of my card when I bought it at release.
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by Petrusino on Oct 25, 2020 17:18:35 GMT 1, I guess you are from The United States. For international orders they should send a payment request in these days
I guess you are from The United States. For international orders they should send a payment request in these days
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by Ravnur 2020 on Oct 25, 2020 19:16:46 GMT 1, I live in Canada. I ordered it as a pick up as not to miss out. Then Ispoke to them to change it to a delivery to Canada and they were very accommodating. All the best with your order!
I live in Canada. I ordered it as a pick up as not to miss out. Then Ispoke to them to change it to a delivery to Canada and they were very accommodating. All the best with your order!
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by rosac on Oct 27, 2020 23:27:48 GMT 1, Has anyone got theirs yet? How is it?
I’m sure it’s banging
Has anyone got theirs yet? How is it? I’m sure it’s banging |
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by Ravnur 2020 on Oct 28, 2020 0:46:25 GMT 1, They will start to ship in November
They will start to ship in November
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by RichEngland on Oct 28, 2020 3:14:04 GMT 1, A signed limited edition large ai weiwei print for only 750?! Suprised it still shows availability unless there's inventory issues. Agreed, although pretty sure inventory’s correct. There wasn’t much promotion around it, but I’m sure they’ll be gone soon now they’re on here:). One of the best buys of the year for sure.
I’m so annoyed I missed this, hahaha
A signed limited edition large ai weiwei print for only 750?! Suprised it still shows availability unless there's inventory issues. Agreed, although pretty sure inventory’s correct. There wasn’t much promotion around it, but I’m sure they’ll be gone soon now they’re on here:). One of the best buys of the year for sure. I’m so annoyed I missed this, hahaha |
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by warsaw project on Oct 28, 2020 9:36:01 GMT 1, They listed it wrong initially , apparently - it’s a ‘fine art inkjet print’ rather than an offset litho
They listed it wrong initially , apparently - it’s a ‘fine art inkjet print’ rather than an offset litho Ive just read this at the bottom of my invoice, was about to send payment. Im not so sure now! Inkjet print just doesnt sit well with me for Art work. |
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by Petrusino on Oct 28, 2020 9:53:44 GMT 1, They listed it wrong initially , apparently - it’s a ‘fine art inkjet print’ rather than an offset litho Ive just read this at the bottom of my invoice, was about to send payment. Im not so sure now! Inkjet print just doesnt sit well with me for Art work.
Many of his major prints are Fine Art inkjet print
www.wengcontemporary.com/techniques/inkjetprint
They listed it wrong initially , apparently - it’s a ‘fine art inkjet print’ rather than an offset litho Ive just read this at the bottom of my invoice, was about to send payment. Im not so sure now! Inkjet print just doesnt sit well with me for Art work. Many of his major prints are Fine Art inkjet print www.wengcontemporary.com/techniques/inkjetprint |
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by Gunny on Oct 28, 2020 9:55:30 GMT 1, Fine Art Inkjet print is no different from an offset litho - they are all done by machine, just one 'sounds' better than the other. Anything mechanically done is pretty much an inkjet print / litho / giclee / archival pigment or whatever - sometimes they fancy things up to make it sound even better, with a silkscreen / screenprint overlayed varnish and all that. That is basically a mechanical print with a varnish.
Don't be fooled by fancy words in printmaking.......
Fine Art Inkjet print is no different from an offset litho - they are all done by machine, just one 'sounds' better than the other. Anything mechanically done is pretty much an inkjet print / litho / giclee / archival pigment or whatever - sometimes they fancy things up to make it sound even better, with a silkscreen / screenprint overlayed varnish and all that. That is basically a mechanical print with a varnish.
Don't be fooled by fancy words in printmaking.......
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by warsaw project on Oct 28, 2020 10:08:17 GMT 1, I saw it as a good thing. I’d rather the inkjet than offset litho
I didnt realise Inkjet was so widely used, i havnt been buying much art over the last few years.
Im interested to here why you think its a better ?
I saw it as a good thing. I’d rather the inkjet than offset litho I only have a basic knowledge of both print mediums, but always thought offset printing was more accurate and at least had a human aspect to the process... I didnt realise Inkjet was so widely used, i havnt been buying much art over the last few years. Im interested to here why you think its a better ? |
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by Arty Farty 15 on Oct 28, 2020 10:12:14 GMT 1, Worth noting it’s still on thick fine art paper too so won’t be like the inkjet printer you get at home
Worth noting it’s still on thick fine art paper too so won’t be like the inkjet printer you get at home
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by warsaw project on Oct 28, 2020 10:14:34 GMT 1, Worth noting it’s still on thick fine art paper too so won’t be like the inkjet printer you get at home
Worth noting it’s still on thick fine art paper too so won’t be like the inkjet printer you get at home Is it though ? That was one my questions actually. It wasnt mentioned in the Email |
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by ajr on Oct 28, 2020 10:18:43 GMT 1, Don't know much either, but in my mind offset Litho sounds better and gives the impression of a more manual plate printed process (although they are both done by machines now anyway!). Inkjet just reminds me of home printing ahahah - just taking an image from the internet and printing.
Don't know much either, but in my mind offset Litho sounds better and gives the impression of a more manual plate printed process (although they are both done by machines now anyway!). Inkjet just reminds me of home printing ahahah - just taking an image from the internet and printing.
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by Javier on Oct 28, 2020 10:19:34 GMT 1, Fine Art Inkjet print is no different from an offset litho - they are all done by machine, just one 'sounds' better than the other. Anything mechanically done is pretty much an inkjet print / litho / giclee / archival pigment or whatever - sometimes they fancy things up to make it sound even better, with a silkscreen / screenprint overlayed varnish and all that. That is basically a mechanical print with a varnish. Don't be fooled by fancy words in printmaking.......
I’ve visited a famous lithograph company. Please don’t compare that process with a digital one. There was a touch of human in their work
(You can apply this to hand made screenprint too)
I think the difference is not as much about machines, rather than human involved in the process
Fine Art Inkjet print is no different from an offset litho - they are all done by machine, just one 'sounds' better than the other. Anything mechanically done is pretty much an inkjet print / litho / giclee / archival pigment or whatever - sometimes they fancy things up to make it sound even better, with a silkscreen / screenprint overlayed varnish and all that. That is basically a mechanical print with a varnish. Don't be fooled by fancy words in printmaking....... I’ve visited a famous lithograph company. Please don’t compare that process with a digital one. There was a touch of human in their work (You can apply this to hand made screenprint too) I think the difference is not as much about machines, rather than human involved in the process |
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by Gunny on Oct 28, 2020 10:26:11 GMT 1, Fine Art Inkjet print is no different from an offset litho - they are all done by machine, just one 'sounds' better than the other. Anything mechanically done is pretty much an inkjet print / litho / giclee / archival pigment or whatever - sometimes they fancy things up to make it sound even better, with a silkscreen / screenprint overlayed varnish and all that. That is basically a mechanical print with a varnish. Don't be fooled by fancy words in printmaking....... I’ve visited a famous lithograph company. Please don’t compare that process with a digital one. There was a touch of human in their work (You can apply this to hand made screenprint too) I think the difference is not as much about machines, rather than human involved in the process
Is it or is it not printed by machine? Yes it is! The fact that people are involved and it takes more time may mean a better product, however they are all printed by machine. Screenprint overlays by hand and all that mean there are people involved etc, but an inkjet print can also have this. What i am saying is don't be fooled by all the different words for fine art printing! Some machines and processes may give better results in the end due to quality of product or human interaction, but at the end of the day, they are all machine printed!
Fine Art Inkjet print is no different from an offset litho - they are all done by machine, just one 'sounds' better than the other. Anything mechanically done is pretty much an inkjet print / litho / giclee / archival pigment or whatever - sometimes they fancy things up to make it sound even better, with a silkscreen / screenprint overlayed varnish and all that. That is basically a mechanical print with a varnish. Don't be fooled by fancy words in printmaking....... I’ve visited a famous lithograph company. Please don’t compare that process with a digital one. There was a touch of human in their work (You can apply this to hand made screenprint too) I think the difference is not as much about machines, rather than human involved in the process Is it or is it not printed by machine? Yes it is! The fact that people are involved and it takes more time may mean a better product, however they are all printed by machine. Screenprint overlays by hand and all that mean there are people involved etc, but an inkjet print can also have this. What i am saying is don't be fooled by all the different words for fine art printing! Some machines and processes may give better results in the end due to quality of product or human interaction, but at the end of the day, they are all machine printed! |
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by Petrusino on Oct 28, 2020 10:29:31 GMT 1, Here is the paper they use for the edition, is an expensive paper, and in combination with inkjet printing the result will be excellent.
www.hahnemuehle.com/en/digital-fineart/fineart-media/matt-fineart-smooth/p/Product/show/9/13.html
Some people are puzzling because the price seems too low for the edition, but this is only because behind there is the charity for an historic non-profit association like The Kitchen. The image for me is one of his best, months ago I was about to buy the one with a black background digitally signed and even then it seemed like a bargain, now this is a absolutely an opportunity not to be missed in my opinion.
Here is the paper they use for the edition, is an expensive paper, and in combination with inkjet printing the result will be excellent. www.hahnemuehle.com/en/digital-fineart/fineart-media/matt-fineart-smooth/p/Product/show/9/13.htmlSome people are puzzling because the price seems too low for the edition, but this is only because behind there is the charity for an historic non-profit association like The Kitchen. The image for me is one of his best, months ago I was about to buy the one with a black background digitally signed and even then it seemed like a bargain, now this is a absolutely an opportunity not to be missed in my opinion. |
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by blerd on Oct 28, 2020 10:38:06 GMT 1, My understanding is that its definitely an upgrade!
Offset lithograph and Lithography are different things. The latter is an artisan process and the offset has become a mainly used to create posters cheaply.
Lithography was invented in the late eighteenth century, initially using Bavarian limestone as the printing surface. Its invention made it possible to print a much wider range of marks and areas of tone than possible with earlier printmaking relief or intaglio methods. It also made colour printing easier: areas of different colours can be applied to separate stones and overprinted onto the same sheet.
Offset lithography involves printing the image onto an intermediate surface before the final sheet. The process is ‘offset’ because the plate does not come in direct contact with the paper, which preserves the quality of the plate. With offset lithography, the image is reversed twice, and appears on the final sheet the same way round as on the stone or plate.
Fine Art Inkjet print is a Giclee. These will have far more texture and expression than an offset Litho.
A good example is Conor Harringtons Modern Monarchy.
My understanding is that its definitely an upgrade!
Offset lithograph and Lithography are different things. The latter is an artisan process and the offset has become a mainly used to create posters cheaply.
Lithography was invented in the late eighteenth century, initially using Bavarian limestone as the printing surface. Its invention made it possible to print a much wider range of marks and areas of tone than possible with earlier printmaking relief or intaglio methods. It also made colour printing easier: areas of different colours can be applied to separate stones and overprinted onto the same sheet.
Offset lithography involves printing the image onto an intermediate surface before the final sheet. The process is ‘offset’ because the plate does not come in direct contact with the paper, which preserves the quality of the plate. With offset lithography, the image is reversed twice, and appears on the final sheet the same way round as on the stone or plate.
Fine Art Inkjet print is a Giclee. These will have far more texture and expression than an offset Litho.
A good example is Conor Harringtons Modern Monarchy.
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by Arty Farty 15 on Oct 28, 2020 10:56:04 GMT 1, Fine Art Inkjet print is no different from an offset litho - they are all done by machine, just one 'sounds' better than the other. Anything mechanically done is pretty much an inkjet print / litho / giclee / archival pigment or whatever - sometimes they fancy things up to make it sound even better, with a silkscreen / screenprint overlayed varnish and all that. That is basically a mechanical print with a varnish. Don't be fooled by fancy words in printmaking....... I’ve visited a famous lithograph company. Please don’t compare that process with a digital one. There was a touch of human in their work (You can apply this to hand made screenprint too) I think the difference is not as much about machines, rather than human involved in the process
Lol... everyone! Stop what you’re doing! He’s visited an ACTUAL printers so how dare you compare the methodologies!!
Fine Art Inkjet print is no different from an offset litho - they are all done by machine, just one 'sounds' better than the other. Anything mechanically done is pretty much an inkjet print / litho / giclee / archival pigment or whatever - sometimes they fancy things up to make it sound even better, with a silkscreen / screenprint overlayed varnish and all that. That is basically a mechanical print with a varnish. Don't be fooled by fancy words in printmaking....... I’ve visited a famous lithograph company. Please don’t compare that process with a digital one. There was a touch of human in their work (You can apply this to hand made screenprint too) I think the difference is not as much about machines, rather than human involved in the process Lol... everyone! Stop what you’re doing! He’s visited an ACTUAL printers so how dare you compare the methodologies!! |
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by warsaw project on Oct 28, 2020 11:00:31 GMT 1, I’ve visited a famous lithograph company. Please don’t compare that process with a digital one. There was a touch of human in their work (You can apply this to hand made screenprint too) I think the difference is not as much about machines, rather than human involved in the process Lol... everyone! Stop what you’re doing! He’s visited an ACTUAL printers so how dare you compare the methodologies!!
I’ve visited a famous lithograph company. Please don’t compare that process with a digital one. There was a touch of human in their work (You can apply this to hand made screenprint too) I think the difference is not as much about machines, rather than human involved in the process Lol... everyone! Stop what you’re doing! He’s visited an ACTUAL printers so how dare you compare the methodologies!! Have you got anything constructive to add ? |
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by Gunny on Oct 28, 2020 11:06:22 GMT 1, More and more artists use a mechanical process to print these days. Everyone from Hirst, Hockney and others do it. The quality is so good, why not! The screenprinting overlays, varnish, glitter etc all then give an extra human element to the process i guess. I used to be snobby when comparing mechanical printing to screenprinting (silkscreen), stone or plate produced Lithographs (not offset which is mechanical), etching, woodcut, linocut or whatever artisan process - however these days i really don't care. It is all about quality, quality of printing and process!
The only thing i would say is that screenprints etc can give a little bit more in terms of individuality as there can be mistakes, errors in the process etc...........
More and more artists use a mechanical process to print these days. Everyone from Hirst, Hockney and others do it. The quality is so good, why not! The screenprinting overlays, varnish, glitter etc all then give an extra human element to the process i guess. I used to be snobby when comparing mechanical printing to screenprinting (silkscreen), stone or plate produced Lithographs (not offset which is mechanical), etching, woodcut, linocut or whatever artisan process - however these days i really don't care. It is all about quality, quality of printing and process!
The only thing i would say is that screenprints etc can give a little bit more in terms of individuality as there can be mistakes, errors in the process etc...........
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Ai Weiwei Bombs, by warsaw project on Oct 28, 2020 11:13:57 GMT 1, More and more artists use a mechanical process to print these days. Everyone from Hirst, Hockney and others do it. The quality is so good, why not! The screenprinting overlays, varnish, glitter etc all then give an extra human element to the process i guess. I used to be snobby when comparing mechanical printing to screenprinting (silkscreen), stone or plate produced Lithographs (not offset which is mechanical), etching, woodcut, linocut or whatever artisan process - however these days i really don't care. It is all about quality, quality of printing and process! The only thing i would say is that screenprints etc can give a little bit more in terms of individuality as there can be mistakes, errors in the process etc...........
I suppose i am a bit snobby myself, i read inkjet and poor quality and thin paper comes to mind...
More and more artists use a mechanical process to print these days. Everyone from Hirst, Hockney and others do it. The quality is so good, why not! The screenprinting overlays, varnish, glitter etc all then give an extra human element to the process i guess. I used to be snobby when comparing mechanical printing to screenprinting (silkscreen), stone or plate produced Lithographs (not offset which is mechanical), etching, woodcut, linocut or whatever artisan process - however these days i really don't care. It is all about quality, quality of printing and process! The only thing i would say is that screenprints etc can give a little bit more in terms of individuality as there can be mistakes, errors in the process etc........... Thanks, this is what im looking for.. I dont knowingly have anything at home to compare the Offset Litho vs Giclee/inkjet. I suppose i am a bit snobby myself, i read inkjet and poor quality and thin paper comes to mind... |
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