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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by hellfo on Oct 28, 2020 21:27:54 GMT 1, Genuine hand painted by Banksy at 5000? Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure
Genuine hand painted by Banksy at 5000? Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by Daniel Silk on May 25, 2021 5:26:26 GMT 1, This is interesting -
โThis auction is for an early Banksy stencil sprayed record from 1999. Banksy used to share the Timebomb office in Bristol with John Stapleton (whom I know personally), and kindly created the bull-car stencil for him to use on the first 100 promo copies of this recordโ
www.popsike.com/Early-Banksy-Blowpop-Record-Capoeira-Twins-4-x-3/250842242106.html
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by brettlock on Jul 18, 2021 23:08:20 GMT 1, I've studied many fakes of this record and it's easy to see if the original stencil was used or a fake one. You can compare with the copy of rockdoc (recordart.net), his is most likely a legit one. If the stencil is exactely the same (The first L in bLowpop is kind of special for example), but it's important that every part of the Titel and of the picture fits perfectely! These two Records shown above are both legit ones. The stencils are absolutely the same like on rockdoc's copy... A bit paler but the same.
I've studied many fakes of this record and it's easy to see if the original stencil was used or a fake one. You can compare with the copy of rockdoc (recordart.net), his is most likely a legit one. If the stencil is exactely the same (The first L in bLowpop is kind of special for example), but it's important that every part of the Titel and of the picture fits perfectely! These two Records shown above are both legit ones. The stencils are absolutely the same like on rockdoc's copy... A bit paler but the same.
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by startimeash on Sept 17, 2021 23:18:01 GMT 1, Have bought from Omega before and they are legit. They are auctioning Peter Hookโs New Order collection in October. Got a signed auction catalog; thereโs a Gorillaz Jamie Hewlett original as part of the sale, as well as about 100 lots that Iโm gonna get outbid on.
Have bought from Omega before and they are legit. They are auctioning Peter Hookโs New Order collection in October. Got a signed auction catalog; thereโs a Gorillaz Jamie Hewlett original as part of the sale, as well as about 100 lots that Iโm gonna get outbid on.
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by Someone Like You on May 4, 2022 11:03:39 GMT 1, Hello I am looking for Capoeira Twins, if you have please PM
Hello I am looking for Capoeira Twins, if you have please PM
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by met on May 4, 2022 12:26:51 GMT 1, Hello I am looking for Capoeira Twins, if you have please PM
Assuming your search is for the Four (4x3) / Truth Will Out 12" promo, then hopefully you really know what you're doing.
Over the past decade, this has become landmine territory, exclusive to two types of collectors:
(i) the exceptionally well-informed, in possession of a trained eye; and
(ii) fools (or, if being generous, naive people) who often place excessive faith in both the honesty and knowledge of others โ including private individuals, dealers, gallerists, and auction house staff.
Hello I am looking for Capoeira Twins, if you have please PM
Assuming your search is for the Four (4x3) / Truth Will Out 12" promo, then hopefully you really know what you're doing.
Over the past decade, this has become landmine territory, exclusive to two types of collectors:
(i) the exceptionally well-informed, in possession of a trained eye; and
(ii) fools (or, if being generous, naive people) who often place excessive faith in both the honesty and knowledge of others โ including private individuals, dealers, gallerists, and auction house staff.
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by Someone Like You on May 4, 2022 13:37:04 GMT 1, I know there are a lot of fakes around, but i hope i have learned to recognize an original, and to stay away from some galleries. But anyway have you for sale?
I know there are a lot of fakes around, but i hope i have learned to recognize an original, and to stay away from some galleries. But anyway have you for sale?
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by met on May 4, 2022 18:39:17 GMT 1, I know there are a lot of fakes around, but i hope i have learned to recognize an original, and to stay away from some galleries. But anyway have you for sale?
Provided you can:
(a) recognise an original; and
(b) equally important, distinguish an original from a well-executed, artificially-aged counterfeit,
then you are on the right track.
The key requirement is being completely independent, knowledge-wise.
In other words, that you be in a position where you can avoid the mistake of placing full reliance on the authenticity assurances of a third party โ regardless of their credibility or reputation, and whether that person or entity be a private collector, dealer, gallery, or auction house.
Elaborating further
1. Sellers lacking integrity, including dishonest ones, will happily sell you items:
(i) they know to be fake; (ii) they suspect might be fake; or (iii) in relation to which they've shown reckless disregard as to genuineness.
2. Honest and reputable sellers could easily sell you fakes too โ since they themselves may have been unknowingly duped.
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While I don't possess one of these hand-sprayed Capoeira Twins records, I've seen a few in person, and have a couple of acquaintances who are owners.
There are surely dozens of people in a similar position to mine when it comes to access.
Now, my own stencil-cutting and spraypainting skills are relatively basic. In addition, the list of contacts I have in the record industry is largely non-existent.
But notwithstanding these limitations, I am confident that (if I were so inclined) I could secure the requisite source materials and churn out fakes of a calibre that would fool many experienced Banksy collectors.
For this reason, and especially given the absence of a COA safety net from Pest Control Office, I myself would be a little nervous if spending a four-figure sum on one of these records today.
__________
Good luck with your continued search.
I know there are a lot of fakes around, but i hope i have learned to recognize an original, and to stay away from some galleries. But anyway have you for sale?
Provided you can:
(a) recognise an original; and
(b) equally important, distinguish an original from a well-executed, artificially-aged counterfeit,
then you are on the right track.
The key requirement is being completely independent, knowledge-wise.
In other words, that you be in a position where you can avoid the mistake of placing full reliance on the authenticity assurances of a third party โ regardless of their credibility or reputation, and whether that person or entity be a private collector, dealer, gallery, or auction house.
Elaborating further
1. Sellers lacking integrity, including dishonest ones, will happily sell you items:
(i) they know to be fake; (ii) they suspect might be fake; or (iii) in relation to which they've shown reckless disregard as to genuineness.
2. Honest and reputable sellers could easily sell you fakes too โ since they themselves may have been unknowingly duped.
__________
While I don't possess one of these hand-sprayed Capoeira Twins records, I've seen a few in person, and have a couple of acquaintances who are owners.
There are surely dozens of people in a similar position to mine when it comes to access.
Now, my own stencil-cutting and spraypainting skills are relatively basic. In addition, the list of contacts I have in the record industry is largely non-existent.
But notwithstanding these limitations, I am confident that (if I were so inclined) I could secure the requisite source materials and churn out fakes of a calibre that would fool many experienced Banksy collectors.
For this reason, and especially given the absence of a COA safety net from Pest Control Office, I myself would be a little nervous if spending a four-figure sum on one of these records today.
__________
Good luck with your continued search.
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by Someone Like You on May 5, 2022 8:19:41 GMT 1, I know there are a lot of fakes around, but i hope i have learned to recognize an original, and to stay away from some galleries. But anyway have you for sale? Provided you can:
(a) recognise an original; and
(b) equally important, distinguish an original from a well-executed, artificially-aged counterfeit,
then you are on the right track.
The key requirement is being completely independent, knowledge-wise.
In other words, that you be in a position where you can avoid the mistake of placing full reliance on the authenticity assurances of a third party โ regardless of their credibility or reputation, and whether that person or entity be a private collector, dealer, gallery, or auction house.
Elaborating further
1. Sellers lacking integrity, including dishonest ones, will happily sell you items:
(i) they know to be fake; (ii) they suspect might be fake; or (iii) in relation to which they've shown reckless disregard as to genuineness.
2. Honest and reputable sellers could easily sell you fakes too โ since they themselves may have been unknowingly duped.
__________
While I don't possess one of these hand-sprayed Capoeira Twins records, I've seen a few in person, and have a couple of acquaintances who are owners.
There are surely dozens of people in a similar position to mine when it comes to access.
Now, my own stencil-cutting and spraypainting skills are relatively basic. In addition, the list of contacts I have in the record industry is largely non-existent.
But notwithstanding these limitations, I am confident that (if I were so inclined) I could secure the requisite source materials and churn out fakes of a calibre that would fool many experienced Banksy collectors.
For this reason, and especially given the absence of a COA safety net from Pest Control Office, I myself would be a little nervous if spending a four-figure sum on one of these records today.
__________
Good luck with your continued search.
I know there are a lot of fakes around, but i hope i have learned to recognize an original, and to stay away from some galleries. But anyway have you for sale? Provided you can:
(a) recognise an original; and
(b) equally important, distinguish an original from a well-executed, artificially-aged counterfeit,
then you are on the right track.
The key requirement is being completely independent, knowledge-wise.
In other words, that you be in a position where you can avoid the mistake of placing full reliance on the authenticity assurances of a third party โ regardless of their credibility or reputation, and whether that person or entity be a private collector, dealer, gallery, or auction house.
Elaborating further
1. Sellers lacking integrity, including dishonest ones, will happily sell you items:
(i) they know to be fake; (ii) they suspect might be fake; or (iii) in relation to which they've shown reckless disregard as to genuineness.
2. Honest and reputable sellers could easily sell you fakes too โ since they themselves may have been unknowingly duped.
__________
While I don't possess one of these hand-sprayed Capoeira Twins records, I've seen a few in person, and have a couple of acquaintances who are owners.
There are surely dozens of people in a similar position to mine when it comes to access.
Now, my own stencil-cutting and spraypainting skills are relatively basic. In addition, the list of contacts I have in the record industry is largely non-existent.
But notwithstanding these limitations, I am confident that (if I were so inclined) I could secure the requisite source materials and churn out fakes of a calibre that would fool many experienced Banksy collectors.
For this reason, and especially given the absence of a COA safety net from Pest Control Office, I myself would be a little nervous if spending a four-figure sum on one of these records today.
__________
Good luck with your continued search.
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by Someone Like You on May 5, 2022 8:21:26 GMT 1, Thanks Met very helpful advice
Thanks Met very helpful advice
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by Daniel Silk on Sept 7, 2022 15:04:01 GMT 1, Serious bidder action for this piece currently on eBay ๐ณ www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134221501386
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by Dutch Art Collector on Jan 16, 2023 21:07:14 GMT 1, Looking for one.
Looking for one.
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Brice
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by Brice on Jan 18, 2023 23:15:09 GMT 1, Watch out for this seller on Discogs: www.discogs.com/user/alexcowrec1 (email: alexcowrec@yahoo.com)
he offered an hour ago the disc for 450 dollars by requesting payment between friends via the paypal address paypal03690@gmail.com
The photos he sends :
Watch out for this seller on Discogs: www.discogs.com/user/alexcowrec1 (email: alexcowrec@yahoo.com) he offered an hour ago the disc for 450 dollars by requesting payment between friends via the paypal address paypal03690@gmail.com The photos he sends :
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by Lroy on Jan 18, 2023 23:24:33 GMT 1, Watch out for this seller on Discogs: www.discogs.com/user/alexcowrec1 (email: alexcowrec@yahoo.com) he offered an hour ago the disc for 450 dollars by requesting payment between friends via the paypal address paypal03690@gmail.com The photos he sends : I saw it 1or 2 weeks ago. I was surprised by the low price on Discogs.
Watch out for this seller on Discogs: www.discogs.com/user/alexcowrec1 (email: alexcowrec@yahoo.com) he offered an hour ago the disc for 450 dollars by requesting payment between friends via the paypal address paypal03690@gmail.com The photos he sends : I saw it 1or 2 weeks ago. I was surprised by the low price on Discogs.
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Brice
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by Brice on Jan 18, 2023 23:36:06 GMT 1, I saw it 1or 2 weeks ago. I was surprised by the low price on Discogs.
I saw it 1or 2 weeks ago. I was surprised by the low price on Discogs.
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by Someone Like You on Jan 18, 2023 23:38:08 GMT 1, Is a scam do not buy it
Is a scam do not buy it
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by Atelier on Jan 19, 2023 0:30:48 GMT 1, Hi There, My name's Tim and I'm one half of the Capoeira Twins. The cover was indeed sprayed by Banksy (I think he hand stencilled the first 100 copies). The tunes on the white label were '4x3', and on the flip was a tune called 'Truth Will Out'. The Mr.Scruff mix wasn't done for some time after this release, when we signed it to Pete Tong's ffrr label. I'm really chuffed for Banksy that demand for his work has gone through the roof. I just wish I hadn't have excitedly given all my stencilled copies away to my mates when we first got them...doh!! Hope this clears stuff up for you, happy e-baying Tim www.myspace.com/capoeiratwins Myspace!!
Hi There, My name's Tim and I'm one half of the Capoeira Twins. The cover was indeed sprayed by Banksy (I think he hand stencilled the first 100 copies). The tunes on the white label were '4x3', and on the flip was a tune called 'Truth Will Out'. The Mr.Scruff mix wasn't done for some time after this release, when we signed it to Pete Tong's ffrr label. I'm really chuffed for Banksy that demand for his work has gone through the roof. I just wish I hadn't have excitedly given all my stencilled copies away to my mates when we first got them...doh!! Hope this clears stuff up for you, happy e-baying Tim www.myspace.com/capoeiratwinsMyspace!!
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by Dutch Art Collector on Jan 19, 2023 8:38:10 GMT 1, The price is to good to be true right?
The price is to good to be true right?
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by Dutch Art Collector on Jan 20, 2023 10:04:42 GMT 1, What about ยฃ5500 for this one? Good price?
What about ยฃ5500 for this one? Good price?
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by Someone Like You on Jan 20, 2023 10:33:41 GMT 1, What about ยฃ5500 for this one? Good price? Hi, Yes, it's a great price, but be very careful that there are many fakes around, I've been looking for mine there for two years. Look it over and make sure it has a demonstrable history. and study this post well!!
What about ยฃ5500 for this one? Good price? Hi, Yes, it's a great price, but be very careful that there are many fakes around, I've been looking for mine there for two years. Look it over and make sure it has a demonstrable history. and study this post well!!
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by mandem on Feb 19, 2023 23:40:45 GMT 1,
Listing on behalf of a mate who was once a globe-trotting breakbeat DJ and producer. This is 100% legit, UK-based seller. Unframed. Feel free to PM and I can put your offers forward.
Thanks.
<i> "I was lucky enough to be sent a handsprayed #Banksy on a record sleeve from 1999 when I was a DJ. There were 100 made and sent out to DJs. A lot were lost, destroyed with many not realising who created the design."</i>
Some details on the Banksy:
Early in his career, Banksy created an edition of 100 vinyl sleeves for music artist, Capoeira Twins', release under Blowpop Records.
Bristol-based record company Blowpop Records shared premises with Banksy from around 1998-2000, before the artist moved to London. The owner of the record label accepted Banksy's offer to hand-stencil the first 100 covers of a white label promotional record. As this work precedes Pictures on Walls, it is not issued with a certificate of authenticity.
Listing on behalf of a mate who was once a globe-trotting breakbeat DJ and producer. This is 100% legit, UK-based seller. Unframed. Feel free to PM and I can put your offers forward. Thanks. <i> "I was lucky enough to be sent a handsprayed #Banksy on a record sleeve from 1999 when I was a DJ. There were 100 made and sent out to DJs. A lot were lost, destroyed with many not realising who created the design."</i> Some details on the Banksy: Early in his career, Banksy created an edition of 100 vinyl sleeves for music artist, Capoeira Twins', release under Blowpop Records. Bristol-based record company Blowpop Records shared premises with Banksy from around 1998-2000, before the artist moved to London. The owner of the record label accepted Banksy's offer to hand-stencil the first 100 covers of a white label promotional record. As this work precedes Pictures on Walls, it is not issued with a certificate of authenticity.
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by I Like You Your Weird on Feb 20, 2023 0:23:27 GMT 1, This is freaking cool!!!
This is freaking cool!!!
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by hnkpnk on Feb 20, 2023 13:07:18 GMT 1, If you want any serious bids you should attach hi-res photos of the cover, record, insert if included and matrix numbers in the vinyl run-off.
If you want any serious bids you should attach hi-res photos of the cover, record, insert if included and matrix numbers in the vinyl run-off.
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Banksy โข Blowpop Records, Capoeira Twins , by hnkpnk on Feb 20, 2023 13:09:47 GMT 1, And it's not because "... this work precedes Pictures on Walls" it can't get a COA. It's because it's not originally sold as, or considered, "art" by Banksy.
And it's not because "... this work precedes Pictures on Walls" it can't get a COA. It's because it's not originally sold as, or considered, "art" by Banksy.
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