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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by Season of Mist on Oct 31, 2020 10:15:34 GMT 1, Very nice, screaming right wing and telling people what to think worked real well. Try Jonathan Pie one day you might learn a thing or two.
Anyways, details are popping up.
Its the NGO "sea eye" who rescued them on sept 20, the "Alan Kurdi".
So not the Louise Michel directly but a NGO close to him.
So wether you like it or not his name is being thrown around and I know there is no such thing as bad publicity.
Very nice, screaming right wing and telling people what to think worked real well. Try Jonathan Pie one day you might learn a thing or two.
Anyways, details are popping up.
Its the NGO "sea eye" who rescued them on sept 20, the "Alan Kurdi".
So not the Louise Michel directly but a NGO close to him.
So wether you like it or not his name is being thrown around and I know there is no such thing as bad publicity.
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by Javier on Oct 31, 2020 10:38:04 GMT 1, Some of the ones who had put โstrangeโ comments can be happy:
www.elperiodico.com/es/sociedad/20201029/naufragio-cayuco-senegal-canarias-8180787
140 deaths a few days ago. You can clap your hands. Maybe a potential terrorist (and maybe not) is also dead
(It was towards Canary Islands, so no in the Mediterranean, but there happens the same)
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by Season of Mist on Oct 31, 2020 11:33:05 GMT 1, m.dw.com/es/133-migrantes-del-alan-kurdi-esperan-frente-a-lampedusa/a-54996309
Here is the sea watch boat that brought him. Sea watch is the NGO that banksy supported with Louise Michel. So it was wrong the say the banksy boat, but same organisation.
For the comment above about the inane comparison with the tube.
Guns dont kill people. People kill people. Rings a bell? Same argument. Yes, your argument is on the same level as the NRA.
And as far as I know the tube doesn't actively look for people to help them illegally cross a border. Tiny detail.
So case closed. You can scream right wing and fachist. There you go, there's the connection. A bansky sponsorzd NGO brought the terrorist.
I scream democracy because the vast majority of people do not want those NGO, and maybe first of all the italian, and the first neighbor, France. Maybe it should be their choice, not banksy.
Last post, feel free to get on your high horse and moral superiority, I dont care.
m.dw.com/es/133-migrantes-del-alan-kurdi-esperan-frente-a-lampedusa/a-54996309Here is the sea watch boat that brought him. Sea watch is the NGO that banksy supported with Louise Michel. So it was wrong the say the banksy boat, but same organisation. For the comment above about the inane comparison with the tube. Guns dont kill people. People kill people. Rings a bell? Same argument. Yes, your argument is on the same level as the NRA. And as far as I know the tube doesn't actively look for people to help them illegally cross a border. Tiny detail. So case closed. You can scream right wing and fachist. There you go, there's the connection. A bansky sponsorzd NGO brought the terrorist. I scream democracy because the vast majority of people do not want those NGO, and maybe first of all the italian, and the first neighbor, France. Maybe it should be their choice, not banksy. Last post, feel free to get on your high horse and moral superiority, I dont care.
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by overend on Oct 31, 2020 11:57:13 GMT 1, m.dw.com/es/133-migrantes-del-alan-kurdi-esperan-frente-a-lampedusa/a-54996309Here is the sea watch boat that brought him. Sea watch is the NGO that banksy supported with Louise Michel. So it was wrong the say the banksy boat, but same organisation. For the comment above about the inane comparison with the tube. Guns dont kill people. People kill people. Rings a bell? Same argument. Yes, your argument is on the same level as the NRA. And as far as I know the tube doesn't actively look for people to help them illegally cross a border. Tiny detail. So case closed. You can scream right wing and fachist. There you go, there's the connection. A bansky sponsorzd NGO brought the terrorist. I scream democracy because the vast majority of people do not want those NGO, and maybe first of all the italian, and the first neighbor, France. Maybe it should be their choice, not banksy. Last post, feel free to get on your high horse and moral superiority, I dont care.
Clutching at straws now.
m.dw.com/es/133-migrantes-del-alan-kurdi-esperan-frente-a-lampedusa/a-54996309Here is the sea watch boat that brought him. Sea watch is the NGO that banksy supported with Louise Michel. So it was wrong the say the banksy boat, but same organisation. For the comment above about the inane comparison with the tube. Guns dont kill people. People kill people. Rings a bell? Same argument. Yes, your argument is on the same level as the NRA. And as far as I know the tube doesn't actively look for people to help them illegally cross a border. Tiny detail. So case closed. You can scream right wing and fachist. There you go, there's the connection. A bansky sponsorzd NGO brought the terrorist. I scream democracy because the vast majority of people do not want those NGO, and maybe first of all the italian, and the first neighbor, France. Maybe it should be their choice, not banksy. Last post, feel free to get on your high horse and moral superiority, I dont care. Clutching at straws now. |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by barrychuckle on Oct 31, 2020 12:01:12 GMT 1, Careful everyone we have a badass on our hands
Families, children, babies... are dying every day... forced out of their homes because of wars and other horrific circumstances... just this week a family died in the English Channel
www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/channel-migrant-boat-family-dunkirk-identified-a4573285.html
Do the vast majority of people want to get rid of NGO's?
Also I'm not sure letting governments deal unchecked with ethnic minorities has the best track record in Europe.
Mostly if you disagree with Banksy's politics so vehemently why hang about on a banksy forum? You could go do your weird hobby somewhere else, goose step around the square for a bit? Warm the place up with a nice book burn? Blame people from other countries for your own shortcomings? Form a focus group for other men with small dick energy?
Careful everyone we have a badass on our hands Families, children, babies... are dying every day... forced out of their homes because of wars and other horrific circumstances... just this week a family died in the English Channel www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/channel-migrant-boat-family-dunkirk-identified-a4573285.htmlDo the vast majority of people want to get rid of NGO's? Also I'm not sure letting governments deal unchecked with ethnic minorities has the best track record in Europe. Mostly if you disagree with Banksy's politics so vehemently why hang about on a banksy forum? You could go do your weird hobby somewhere else, goose step around the square for a bit? Warm the place up with a nice book burn? Blame people from other countries for your own shortcomings? Form a focus group for other men with small dick energy? |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by reg on Oct 31, 2020 12:05:20 GMT 1, Thousands of flights and boats a day land in France and among those legally entering will be people with mental health issues and ideology that leads them to harm and kill.
So should France close all ports and airports and is, say, Lufhansa to blame if one of the above comes in on a flight from Germany etc etc etc.....?
He didn't come in on the Banskys boat. Not even a might - it was impounded at the time. So let's change the title to French Terrorist might have been on a Lufhansa flight and see how ridiculous this thread is.
Thousands of flights and boats a day land in France and among those legally entering will be people with mental health issues and ideology that leads them to harm and kill.
So should France close all ports and airports and is, say, Lufhansa to blame if one of the above comes in on a flight from Germany etc etc etc.....?
He didn't come in on the Banskys boat. Not even a might - it was impounded at the time. So let's change the title to French Terrorist might have been on a Lufhansa flight and see how ridiculous this thread is.
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by isbdellll on Oct 31, 2020 12:05:25 GMT 1, 
Banksy helps those trapped at sea, hence the reason its called a rescue boat. He doesn't get to hand out visa and council flats. Do you actually think from Banksy's boat they get to reach shore unchecked and leave immediately.
Yes its sickening that these random attacks are taking place, I imagine with Banksy spending most of his career in the Middle East / Africa - and seeing both sides of the coin he's in a much better place of understanding. You are not going to stop fellow humans helping one another regardless of the cost. That being said I plan to make a Christmas purchase on the Love Welcomes store, I have been waiting for the mats to come back but they are taking forever. Thanks for reminding me
Banksy helps those trapped at sea, hence the reason its called a rescue boat. He doesn't get to hand out visa and council flats. Do you actually think from Banksy's boat they get to reach shore unchecked and leave immediately. Yes its sickening that these random attacks are taking place, I imagine with Banksy spending most of his career in the Middle East / Africa - and seeing both sides of the coin he's in a much better place of understanding. You are not going to stop fellow humans helping one another regardless of the cost. That being said I plan to make a Christmas purchase on the Love Welcomes store, I have been waiting for the mats to come back but they are taking forever. Thanks for reminding me |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by tab1 on Oct 31, 2020 13:31:30 GMT 1, en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Alan_Kurdi
One persons actions do not represent the actions of all .
Some people will use their underlying fear , racism And lack of knowledge to create a divide
Involvement by the west in most of these countries internal policies and governments have created these situations today , these levels of migration was not seen 10-20 years ago
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Alan_KurdiOne persons actions do not represent the actions of all . Some people will use their underlying fear , racism And lack of knowledge to create a divide Involvement by the west in most of these countries internal policies and governments have created these situations today , these levels of migration was not seen 10-20 years ago
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by dilu on Oct 31, 2020 15:16:47 GMT 1, Roll up roll up
INFAMOUS STREET ARTST EXPANDS ON NOTORIETY AND BEGINS IMPORTING JAHIDIST!
burn his postcards T-shirtโs and prints
Roll up roll up
INFAMOUS STREET ARTST EXPANDS ON NOTORIETY AND BEGINS IMPORTING JAHIDIST!
burn his postcards T-shirtโs and prints
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by Extra Ball on Oct 31, 2020 18:09:27 GMT 1, N importe quoi, aucun rapport avec notre jeunesse. Cet homme n etait sur le territoire que depuis quelques jours.
N importe quoi, aucun rapport avec notre jeunesse. Cet homme n etait sur le territoire que depuis quelques jours. |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by Matt on Oct 31, 2020 18:35:33 GMT 1,
โOn a serious noteโ ?? Really ?? This was you being serious??
Did you really arrive to the conclusion that only possible explanation is that the recent attacks are linked to specific issues with French youth
How in the world did you make this deduction ?
Consider this, it will help you : stop reading the flaky sensationalist bottom feeding โnewsโ sources you often quote on here,
There are much better ways to form a solid opinion and bring something useful and sensible to the debate
โOn a serious noteโ ?? Really ?? This was you being serious?? Did you really arrive to the conclusion that only possible explanation is that the recent attacks are linked to specific issues with French youth How in the world did you make this deduction ? Consider this, it will help you : stop reading the flaky sensationalist bottom feeding โnewsโ sources you often quote on here, There are much better ways to form a solid opinion and bring something useful and sensible to the debate |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by brycepen on Oct 31, 2020 18:47:12 GMT 1, I think the unintended consequences which have led to gruesome killings of innocent people and have created a major threats to public safety are worth considering. France has had to deploy over 1,000 troops in response to this new threat to public safety. Feel free to ignore facts that conflict with your rosy beliefs about Banksy, but please do not ask us all to censor reality. You are seriously arguing that humanitarian aid should be questioned because there is a a possibility that an ill intentioned person could benefit from it ? Itโs like saying public transportation should be questioned because a terrorist took the tube
I like that you deleted the thesis of my post, which was that we shouldnโt censor news that may conflict with our own perspectives. Itโs called having a broad perspective. You should look into it.
I think the unintended consequences which have led to gruesome killings of innocent people and have created a major threats to public safety are worth considering. France has had to deploy over 1,000 troops in response to this new threat to public safety. Feel free to ignore facts that conflict with your rosy beliefs about Banksy, but please do not ask us all to censor reality. You are seriously arguing that humanitarian aid should be questioned because there is a a possibility that an ill intentioned person could benefit from it ? Itโs like saying public transportation should be questioned because a terrorist took the tube I like that you deleted the thesis of my post, which was that we shouldnโt censor news that may conflict with our own perspectives. Itโs called having a broad perspective. You should look into it. |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by Matt on Oct 31, 2020 18:49:47 GMT 1, You are seriously arguing that humanitarian aid should be questioned because there is a a possibility that an ill intentioned person could benefit from it ? Itโs like saying public transportation should be questioned because a terrorist took the tube I like that you deleted the thesis of my post, which was that we shouldnโt censor news that may conflict with our own perspectives. Itโs called having a broad perspective. You should look into it.
I didnโt miss your thesis.
I wholeheartedly disagree with it because I find it indefensible.
I am fully aware of the news that humanitarian aid may have helped a terrorist perpetrate an attack.
I also know that this is not the first / only time where NGOs have aided people whoโs intentions were not all good.
However I do not agree for one minute that we should consider this an issue with humanitarian aid or NGOs. Their purpose is to save where governments fail to do so, they can not be expected to know / choose who is worthy of being saved.
You are seriously arguing that humanitarian aid should be questioned because there is a a possibility that an ill intentioned person could benefit from it ? Itโs like saying public transportation should be questioned because a terrorist took the tube I like that you deleted the thesis of my post, which was that we shouldnโt censor news that may conflict with our own perspectives. Itโs called having a broad perspective. You should look into it. I didnโt miss your thesis. I wholeheartedly disagree with it because I find it indefensible. I am fully aware of the news that humanitarian aid may have helped a terrorist perpetrate an attack. I also know that this is not the first / only time where NGOs have aided people whoโs intentions were not all good. However I do not agree for one minute that we should consider this an issue with humanitarian aid or NGOs. Their purpose is to save where governments fail to do so, they can not be expected to know / choose who is worthy of being saved. |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by brycepen on Oct 31, 2020 18:54:47 GMT 1, Banksy helps those trapped at sea, hence the reason its called a rescue boat. He doesn't get to hand out visa and council flats. Do you actually think from Banksy's boat they get to reach shore unchecked and leave immediately. Yes its sickening that these random attacks are taking place, I imagine with Banksy spending most of his career in the Middle East / Africa - and seeing both sides of the coin he's in a much better place of understanding. You are not going to stop fellow humans helping one another regardless of the cost. That being said I plan to make a Christmas purchase on the Love Welcomes store, I have been waiting for the mats to come back but they are taking forever. Thanks for reminding me
Spending your career in the Middle East doesnโt mean you have a better grasp of middle eastern politics. Heโs still an artist from Bristol, not an international policy expert. I appreciate his empathy for those suffering, but please do not suggest that Banksy knows best or some crap like that. You donโt know anything about the people here or anywhere that may lead you to realize that they are more or less qualified to make judgments about international policy.
Banksy helps those trapped at sea, hence the reason its called a rescue boat. He doesn't get to hand out visa and council flats. Do you actually think from Banksy's boat they get to reach shore unchecked and leave immediately. Yes its sickening that these random attacks are taking place, I imagine with Banksy spending most of his career in the Middle East / Africa - and seeing both sides of the coin he's in a much better place of understanding. You are not going to stop fellow humans helping one another regardless of the cost. That being said I plan to make a Christmas purchase on the Love Welcomes store, I have been waiting for the mats to come back but they are taking forever. Thanks for reminding me Spending your career in the Middle East doesnโt mean you have a better grasp of middle eastern politics. Heโs still an artist from Bristol, not an international policy expert. I appreciate his empathy for those suffering, but please do not suggest that Banksy knows best or some crap like that. You donโt know anything about the people here or anywhere that may lead you to realize that they are more or less qualified to make judgments about international policy. |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by brycepen on Oct 31, 2020 18:56:16 GMT 1, I like that you deleted the thesis of my post, which was that we shouldnโt censor news that may conflict with our own perspectives. Itโs called having a broad perspective. You should look into it. I didnโt miss your thesis. I wholeheartedly disagree with it because I find it indefensible.
*that was the end of the original post by you*
Ah, you find the use of information to form a more well rounded opinion indefensible. That says it all.
I like that you deleted the thesis of my post, which was that we shouldnโt censor news that may conflict with our own perspectives. Itโs called having a broad perspective. You should look into it. I didnโt miss your thesis. I wholeheartedly disagree with it because I find it indefensible. *that was the end of the original post by you* Ah, you find the use of information to form a more well rounded opinion indefensible. That says it all. |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by brycepen on Oct 31, 2020 18:58:11 GMT 1, I like that you deleted the thesis of my post, which was that we shouldnโt censor news that may conflict with our own perspectives. Itโs called having a broad perspective. You should look into it. I didnโt miss your thesis. I wholeheartedly disagree with it because I find it indefensible. I am fully aware of the news that humanitarian aid may have helped a terrorist perpetrate an attack. I also know that this is not the first / only time where NGOs have aided people whoโs intentions were not all good. However I do not agree for one minute that we should consider this an issue with humanitarian aid or NGOs. Their purpose is to save where governments fail to do so, they can not be expected to know / choose who is worthy of being saved.
Edited your post to turn it into an issue of humanitarian aid. Glad I quoted for posterity.
I like that you deleted the thesis of my post, which was that we shouldnโt censor news that may conflict with our own perspectives. Itโs called having a broad perspective. You should look into it. I didnโt miss your thesis. I wholeheartedly disagree with it because I find it indefensible. I am fully aware of the news that humanitarian aid may have helped a terrorist perpetrate an attack. I also know that this is not the first / only time where NGOs have aided people whoโs intentions were not all good. However I do not agree for one minute that we should consider this an issue with humanitarian aid or NGOs. Their purpose is to save where governments fail to do so, they can not be expected to know / choose who is worthy of being saved. Edited your post to turn it into an issue of humanitarian aid. Glad I quoted for posterity. |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by Matt on Oct 31, 2020 19:02:41 GMT 1, I didnโt miss your thesis. I wholeheartedly disagree with it because I find it indefensible. *that was the end of the original post by you* Ah, you find the use of information to form a more well rounded opinion indefensible. That says it all.
Itโs called intellectual honesty.
I felt that my post looked like a dig. Whereas it was a simple disagreement.
My edited post only explains why I disagree with you, and that this is unrelated to having a broad outlook.
Edit : I am however proud to have been โquoted for posterityโ. Seems like a good thing
I didnโt miss your thesis. I wholeheartedly disagree with it because I find it indefensible. *that was the end of the original post by you* Ah, you find the use of information to form a more well rounded opinion indefensible. That says it all. Itโs called intellectual honesty. I felt that my post looked like a dig. Whereas it was a simple disagreement. My edited post only explains why I disagree with you, and that this is unrelated to having a broad outlook. Edit : I am however proud to have been โquoted for posterityโ. Seems like a good thing |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by brycepen on Oct 31, 2020 19:03:11 GMT 1, m.dw.com/es/133-migrantes-del-alan-kurdi-esperan-frente-a-lampedusa/a-54996309Here is the sea watch boat that brought him. Sea watch is the NGO that banksy supported with Louise Michel. So it was wrong the say the banksy boat, but same organisation. For the comment above about the inane comparison with the tube. Guns dont kill people. People kill people. Rings a bell? Same argument. Yes, your argument is on the same level as the NRA. And as far as I know the tube doesn't actively look for people to help them illegally cross a border. Tiny detail. So case closed. You can scream right wing and fachist. There you go, there's the connection. A bansky sponsorzd NGO brought the terrorist. I scream democracy because the vast majority of people do not want those NGO, and maybe first of all the italian, and the first neighbor, France. Maybe it should be their choice, not banksy. Last post, feel free to get on your high horse and moral superiority, I dont care.
Wow, really starting to understand what you meant about people attacking you for no reason. Mental.
m.dw.com/es/133-migrantes-del-alan-kurdi-esperan-frente-a-lampedusa/a-54996309Here is the sea watch boat that brought him. Sea watch is the NGO that banksy supported with Louise Michel. So it was wrong the say the banksy boat, but same organisation. For the comment above about the inane comparison with the tube. Guns dont kill people. People kill people. Rings a bell? Same argument. Yes, your argument is on the same level as the NRA. And as far as I know the tube doesn't actively look for people to help them illegally cross a border. Tiny detail. So case closed. You can scream right wing and fachist. There you go, there's the connection. A bansky sponsorzd NGO brought the terrorist. I scream democracy because the vast majority of people do not want those NGO, and maybe first of all the italian, and the first neighbor, France. Maybe it should be their choice, not banksy. Last post, feel free to get on your high horse and moral superiority, I dont care. Wow, really starting to understand what you meant about people attacking you for no reason. Mental. |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by brycepen on Oct 31, 2020 19:04:18 GMT 1, *that was the end of the original post by you* Ah, you find the use of information to form a more well rounded opinion indefensible. That says it all. Itโs called intellectual honesty. I felt that my post looked like a dig. Whereas it was a simple disagreement. My edited post only explains why I disagree with you, and that this is unrelated to having a broad outlook.
Well thatโs rather misleading since my post was about censorship. I guess rewriting history is okay too now.
*that was the end of the original post by you* Ah, you find the use of information to form a more well rounded opinion indefensible. That says it all. Itโs called intellectual honesty. I felt that my post looked like a dig. Whereas it was a simple disagreement. My edited post only explains why I disagree with you, and that this is unrelated to having a broad outlook. Well thatโs rather misleading since my post was about censorship. I guess rewriting history is okay too now. |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by Matt on Oct 31, 2020 19:06:36 GMT 1, Itโs called intellectual honesty. I felt that my post looked like a dig. Whereas it was a simple disagreement. My edited post only explains why I disagree with you, and that this is unrelated to having a broad outlook. Well thatโs rather misleading since my post was about censorship. I guess rewriting history is okay too now.
โPosterityโ
โRe-writing historyโ
Wow this is some serious stuff now
Not all all exaggerated
Itโs called intellectual honesty. I felt that my post looked like a dig. Whereas it was a simple disagreement. My edited post only explains why I disagree with you, and that this is unrelated to having a broad outlook. Well thatโs rather misleading since my post was about censorship. I guess rewriting history is okay too now. โPosterityโ โRe-writing historyโ Wow this is some serious stuff now Not all all exaggerated |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by brycepen on Oct 31, 2020 19:26:52 GMT 1, Careful everyone we have a badass on our hands Families, children, babies... are dying every day... forced out of their homes because of wars and other horrific circumstances... just this week a family died in the English Channel www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/channel-migrant-boat-family-dunkirk-identified-a4573285.htmlDo the vast majority of people want to get rid of NGO's? Also I'm not sure letting governments deal unchecked with ethnic minorities has the best track record in Europe. Mostly if you disagree with Banksy's politics so vehemently why hang about on a banksy forum? You could go do your weird hobby somewhere else, goose step around the square for a bit? Warm the place up with a nice book burn? Blame people from other countries for your own shortcomings? Form a focus group for other men with small dick energy?
Okay, Iโll take the bait on this one, since you seem to think Iโm ignorant of migration policies. Iโve met many many legal migrants who have told me what it took to gain asylum legally. It required leaving their homes and spending 2 years in a UN administered refugee camp. Is that terrible? Yes. Does it make it okay to circumvent the vetting process by endangering yourself and your family by taking ill equipped sea vessels? No. The legal migrants I know went through the arduous UN process because it was the safest route for them and their family. Is two years in a refugee camp ideal? Absolutely not. Is risking the death of your family by taking an ill equipped sea vessel a better option? Again, absolutely not.
Careful everyone we have a badass on our hands Families, children, babies... are dying every day... forced out of their homes because of wars and other horrific circumstances... just this week a family died in the English Channel www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/channel-migrant-boat-family-dunkirk-identified-a4573285.htmlDo the vast majority of people want to get rid of NGO's? Also I'm not sure letting governments deal unchecked with ethnic minorities has the best track record in Europe. Mostly if you disagree with Banksy's politics so vehemently why hang about on a banksy forum? You could go do your weird hobby somewhere else, goose step around the square for a bit? Warm the place up with a nice book burn? Blame people from other countries for your own shortcomings? Form a focus group for other men with small dick energy? Okay, Iโll take the bait on this one, since you seem to think Iโm ignorant of migration policies. Iโve met many many legal migrants who have told me what it took to gain asylum legally. It required leaving their homes and spending 2 years in a UN administered refugee camp. Is that terrible? Yes. Does it make it okay to circumvent the vetting process by endangering yourself and your family by taking ill equipped sea vessels? No. The legal migrants I know went through the arduous UN process because it was the safest route for them and their family. Is two years in a refugee camp ideal? Absolutely not. Is risking the death of your family by taking an ill equipped sea vessel a better option? Again, absolutely not. |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by brycepen on Oct 31, 2020 19:28:34 GMT 1, Well thatโs rather misleading since my post was about censorship. I guess rewriting history is okay too now. โPosterityโ โRe-writing historyโ Wow this is some serious stuff now Not all all exaggerated
Haha, does my vocabulary intimidate you for some reason?
Well thatโs rather misleading since my post was about censorship. I guess rewriting history is okay too now. โPosterityโ โRe-writing historyโ Wow this is some serious stuff now Not all all exaggerated Haha, does my vocabulary intimidate you for some reason? |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by tab1 on Oct 31, 2020 19:40:46 GMT 1, โOn a serious noteโ ?? Really ?? This was you being serious?? Did you really arrive to the conclusion that only possible explanation is that the recent attacks are linked to specific issues with French youth How in the world did you make this deduction ? Consider this, it will help you : stop reading the flaky sensationalist bottom feeding โnewsโ sources you often quote on here, There are much better ways to form a solid opinion and bring something useful and sensible to the debate
Drink some hot milk and calm down twit
You can not have a sensible debate here with this subject , everyone comes from different walks of life and are often From privileged Backgrounds , some have their set opinions and some may have racist opinions but will hold back their thoughts on a forum
the comment was my attempt to mock how petty this thread was by association, Do you think anyone on this forum can really experience the feelings and struggles of any of the migrants in this situation but yet you from your cosy sitting room vent up with anger has the overriding opinion over everyone else And to engage a non direct comment with so much
arrogance
There is a whole mixture of issues Including going back to French colonialism But do you think anyone will want to discuss in-depth of all the real issues ?
A lot has been happening in France , how much has been reported in the uk?
โOn a serious noteโ ?? Really ?? This was you being serious?? Did you really arrive to the conclusion that only possible explanation is that the recent attacks are linked to specific issues with French youth How in the world did you make this deduction ? Consider this, it will help you : stop reading the flaky sensationalist bottom feeding โnewsโ sources you often quote on here, There are much better ways to form a solid opinion and bring something useful and sensible to the debate Drink some hot milk and calm down twit You can not have a sensible debate here with this subject , everyone comes from different walks of life and are often From privileged Backgrounds , some have their set opinions and some may have racist opinions but will hold back their thoughts on a forum the comment was my attempt to mock how petty this thread was by association, Do you think anyone on this forum can really experience the feelings and struggles of any of the migrants in this situation but yet you from your cosy sitting room vent up with anger has the overriding opinion over everyone else And to engage a non direct comment with so much arrogance There is a whole mixture of issues Including going back to French colonialism But do you think anyone will want to discuss in-depth of all the real issues ? A lot has been happening in France , how much has been reported in the uk? |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by Lroy on Oct 31, 2020 19:50:54 GMT 1, Weird thread whoever the poster ( I did not have a look sorry - fixing the title ).
Banksy boat or not, it does not mean anything?!
Shortcuts for what ?!
This guy could take any boat..,
Really I donโt see the matter, nor the responsibility of rescue boat and humanitarian.
Anyway he was working ( ๐ ) in Italia before to come in France.
There are crazy and fanatics everywhere !
Well, if somebody could me explain the correlation? ...
Weird thread whoever the poster ( I did not have a look sorry - fixing the title ).
Banksy boat or not, it does not mean anything?!
Shortcuts for what ?!
This guy could take any boat..,
Really I donโt see the matter, nor the responsibility of rescue boat and humanitarian.
Anyway he was working ( ๐ ) in Italia before to come in France.
There are crazy and fanatics everywhere !
Well, if somebody could me explain the correlation? ...
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by tab1 on Oct 31, 2020 20:32:22 GMT 1, N importe quoi, aucun rapport avec notre jeunesse. Cet homme n etait sur le territoire que depuis quelques jours.
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by Extra Ball on Oct 31, 2020 20:53:33 GMT 1, N importe quoi, aucun rapport avec notre jeunesse. Cet homme n etait sur le territoire que depuis quelques jours. madry glowa
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by tab1 on Oct 31, 2020 20:59:35 GMT 1, nie, przyjacielu, to tylko fakty.
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by barrychuckle on Oct 31, 2020 21:45:32 GMT 1, Careful everyone we have a badass on our hands Families, children, babies... are dying every day... forced out of their homes because of wars and other horrific circumstances... just this week a family died in the English Channel www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/channel-migrant-boat-family-dunkirk-identified-a4573285.htmlDo the vast majority of people want to get rid of NGO's? Also I'm not sure letting governments deal unchecked with ethnic minorities has the best track record in Europe. Mostly if you disagree with Banksy's politics so vehemently why hang about on a banksy forum? You could go do your weird hobby somewhere else, goose step around the square for a bit? Warm the place up with a nice book burn? Blame people from other countries for your own shortcomings? Form a focus group for other men with small dick energy? Okay, Iโll take the bait on this one, since you seem to think Iโm ignorant of migration policies. Iโve met many many legal migrants who have told me what it took to gain asylum legally. It required leaving their homes and spending 2 years in a UN administered refugee camp. Is that terrible? Yes. Does it make it okay to circumvent the vetting process by endangering yourself and your family by taking ill equipped sea vessels? No. The legal migrants I know went through the arduous UN process because it was the safest route for them and their family. Is two years in a refugee camp ideal? Absolutely not. Is risking the death of your family by taking an ill equipped sea vessel a better option? Again, absolutely not.
So I wasn't even having a pop at you brycepen, I was taking the piss out of seasonofmist
So no you weren't really registering, never mind me thinking you are ignorant of migration policies
Can't even begin to get into the arguments, I'm a journalist IRL and spent ten months last year in and out of the camps
The picture is far too complex to get into here, but let's just say these aren't immigrants... they are human beings, and the reason they are having to make dangerous journeys is that they are being forced to, closed borders and full UN camps make attempting dangerous journeys the only option...
Careful everyone we have a badass on our hands Families, children, babies... are dying every day... forced out of their homes because of wars and other horrific circumstances... just this week a family died in the English Channel www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/channel-migrant-boat-family-dunkirk-identified-a4573285.htmlDo the vast majority of people want to get rid of NGO's? Also I'm not sure letting governments deal unchecked with ethnic minorities has the best track record in Europe. Mostly if you disagree with Banksy's politics so vehemently why hang about on a banksy forum? You could go do your weird hobby somewhere else, goose step around the square for a bit? Warm the place up with a nice book burn? Blame people from other countries for your own shortcomings? Form a focus group for other men with small dick energy? Okay, Iโll take the bait on this one, since you seem to think Iโm ignorant of migration policies. Iโve met many many legal migrants who have told me what it took to gain asylum legally. It required leaving their homes and spending 2 years in a UN administered refugee camp. Is that terrible? Yes. Does it make it okay to circumvent the vetting process by endangering yourself and your family by taking ill equipped sea vessels? No. The legal migrants I know went through the arduous UN process because it was the safest route for them and their family. Is two years in a refugee camp ideal? Absolutely not. Is risking the death of your family by taking an ill equipped sea vessel a better option? Again, absolutely not. Yeah this thread is a shit show... best delete before a daily mail scumbag finds they can make a story out of it in my opinion So I wasn't even having a pop at you brycepen, I was taking the piss out of seasonofmist So no you weren't really registering, never mind me thinking you are ignorant of migration policies Can't even begin to get into the arguments, I'm a journalist IRL and spent ten months last year in and out of the camps The picture is far too complex to get into here, but let's just say these aren't immigrants... they are human beings, and the reason they are having to make dangerous journeys is that they are being forced to, closed borders and full UN camps make attempting dangerous journeys the only option... |
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French Terrorist might have been on Banksy boat?, by brycepen on Oct 31, 2020 22:24:16 GMT 1, Okay, Iโll take the bait on this one, since you seem to think Iโm ignorant of migration policies. Iโve met many many legal migrants who have told me what it took to gain asylum legally. It required leaving their homes and spending 2 years in a UN administered refugee camp. Is that terrible? Yes. Does it make it okay to circumvent the vetting process by endangering yourself and your family by taking ill equipped sea vessels? No. The legal migrants I know went through the arduous UN process because it was the safest route for them and their family. Is two years in a refugee camp ideal? Absolutely not. Is risking the death of your family by taking an ill equipped sea vessel a better option? Again, absolutely not. Yeah this thread is a shit show... best delete before a daily mail scumbag finds they can make a story out of it in my opinion So I wasn't even having a pop at you brycepen, I was taking the piss out of seasonofmist So no you weren't really registering, never mind me thinking you are ignorant of migration policies Can't even begin to get into the arguments, I'm a journalist IRL and spent ten months last year in and out of the camps The picture is far too complex to get into here, but let's just say these aren't immigrants... they are human beings, and the reason they are having to make dangerous journeys is that they are being forced to, closed borders and full UN camps make attempting dangerous journeys the only option...
I knew you were talking to seasonofmist and still opted to jump in as a surrogate. And I do appreciate your nuanced perspective. You are absolutely right; not only are many UN camps full but they can also be dangerous for certain marginalized groups.
Yes, national governments have failed to address this (and many other) humanitarian crisis(es), and our self appointed international humanitarian police (the UN) has also failed. I think itโs wonderful that a private citizen like Banksy wants to bridge the gap in humanitarian efforts, but thereโs also a bit of hubris there.
And to be honest, I think that you are likely far more aware of the complexity involved in this entire migrant refugee situation than Banksy is. No offense to Banksy.
Okay, Iโll take the bait on this one, since you seem to think Iโm ignorant of migration policies. Iโve met many many legal migrants who have told me what it took to gain asylum legally. It required leaving their homes and spending 2 years in a UN administered refugee camp. Is that terrible? Yes. Does it make it okay to circumvent the vetting process by endangering yourself and your family by taking ill equipped sea vessels? No. The legal migrants I know went through the arduous UN process because it was the safest route for them and their family. Is two years in a refugee camp ideal? Absolutely not. Is risking the death of your family by taking an ill equipped sea vessel a better option? Again, absolutely not. Yeah this thread is a shit show... best delete before a daily mail scumbag finds they can make a story out of it in my opinion So I wasn't even having a pop at you brycepen, I was taking the piss out of seasonofmist So no you weren't really registering, never mind me thinking you are ignorant of migration policies Can't even begin to get into the arguments, I'm a journalist IRL and spent ten months last year in and out of the camps The picture is far too complex to get into here, but let's just say these aren't immigrants... they are human beings, and the reason they are having to make dangerous journeys is that they are being forced to, closed borders and full UN camps make attempting dangerous journeys the only option... I knew you were talking to seasonofmist and still opted to jump in as a surrogate. And I do appreciate your nuanced perspective. You are absolutely right; not only are many UN camps full but they can also be dangerous for certain marginalized groups. Yes, national governments have failed to address this (and many other) humanitarian crisis(es), and our self appointed international humanitarian police (the UN) has also failed. I think itโs wonderful that a private citizen like Banksy wants to bridge the gap in humanitarian efforts, but thereโs also a bit of hubris there. And to be honest, I think that you are likely far more aware of the complexity involved in this entire migrant refugee situation than Banksy is. No offense to Banksy. |
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