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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Reader on Jul 9, 2016 20:01:48 GMT 1, It's on ! and apologies if I sound condescending here, but you know, this culture really isn't about you and the few quid you might gain or lose if Futura signs a few extra prints. For us, it's about bringing art out of institutions, challenging the cultural hegemony, placing work in local communities and hopefully, through workshops and education programs, inspiring others to do the same. It's a little shining light in an otherwise fucked up world. Yes, prints are part of it, and of course there are bottom feeding parasites like yourself who buy to flip, (pretty much every thread of yours is a flip), and yes, we understand this is a way to build from 50 quid prints to 500 quid prints and hopefully a few canvas down the line, who knows maybe you really do like some of the values and ethics exspoused in the work you flip but you need the extra cash. But honestly, don't "project" your own money grubbing self interest onto others who may, in fact do, have other reasons they're involved in this fascinating dynamic new movement in grass roots visual art culture. PS : The Nuart boxset worked out at 50 quid a print, that's Sandra, Futura, Martin Whatson, Martha Cooper, Isaac Cordal, Dotdotdot, for 50 quid. Hardly a money grubbing exercise now is it hey. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. PPS : We really do value everyone who supports both the gallery and the festival for whatever reason, but if it's for any of the reasons above, we value you a little bit more. Peace. Jesus, if you want to write a novel send a PM. Not sure where you're getting flipping from...probably your poor reading comprehension at play there. As previously stated, I bought the set because there were 3 prints I wanted. 2 of them not listed for sale anywhere...ebay, ebeans, any gallery I could find. My only option was to buy the whole set (which included 12 prints I didn't want.) I knew I'd be able to cover the additional cost by selling the ones I don't care for. Real simple for you: Was forced to buy this to get the ones I want. Sold what I don't to cover price difference. Get off your high horse and go f*ck yourself mate. Haha, just messing mate ;-), that wasn't for you, have a top weekend David. I'm sure the gallery will be more than happy to offer you a refund. Though they're now complaining about my customer service techniques..hmmm
It's on ! and apologies if I sound condescending here, but you know, this culture really isn't about you and the few quid you might gain or lose if Futura signs a few extra prints. For us, it's about bringing art out of institutions, challenging the cultural hegemony, placing work in local communities and hopefully, through workshops and education programs, inspiring others to do the same. It's a little shining light in an otherwise fucked up world. Yes, prints are part of it, and of course there are bottom feeding parasites like yourself who buy to flip, (pretty much every thread of yours is a flip), and yes, we understand this is a way to build from 50 quid prints to 500 quid prints and hopefully a few canvas down the line, who knows maybe you really do like some of the values and ethics exspoused in the work you flip but you need the extra cash. But honestly, don't "project" your own money grubbing self interest onto others who may, in fact do, have other reasons they're involved in this fascinating dynamic new movement in grass roots visual art culture. PS : The Nuart boxset worked out at 50 quid a print, that's Sandra, Futura, Martin Whatson, Martha Cooper, Isaac Cordal, Dotdotdot, for 50 quid. Hardly a money grubbing exercise now is it hey. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. PPS : We really do value everyone who supports both the gallery and the festival for whatever reason, but if it's for any of the reasons above, we value you a little bit more. Peace. Jesus, if you want to write a novel send a PM. Not sure where you're getting flipping from...probably your poor reading comprehension at play there. As previously stated, I bought the set because there were 3 prints I wanted. 2 of them not listed for sale anywhere...ebay, ebeans, any gallery I could find. My only option was to buy the whole set (which included 12 prints I didn't want.) I knew I'd be able to cover the additional cost by selling the ones I don't care for. Real simple for you: Was forced to buy this to get the ones I want. Sold what I don't to cover price difference. Get off your high horse and go f*ck yourself mate. Haha, just messing mate ;-), that wasn't for you, have a top weekend David. I'm sure the gallery will be more than happy to offer you a refund. Though they're now complaining about my customer service techniques..hmmm
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Coach on Jul 9, 2016 20:36:27 GMT 1, ....I don't want to shell out for something only to see it's value diluted by more and more released. I think the real value in this print is the perspective it provides on US militarism and the country's position in the current world order from an artist that left the first wave of graffiti to serve in the US military and then returned to be a key figure in the Golden Age of NY graffiti. That isn't affected by the number of prints produced and personally I think money just obscures the true value. Just my 2c worth.
Well said feral. I would just add that I have a great deal of respect for Nuart and all they have given to this scene. The moment it becomes just about money, I'm out.
....I don't want to shell out for something only to see it's value diluted by more and more released. I think the real value in this print is the perspective it provides on US militarism and the country's position in the current world order from an artist that left the first wave of graffiti to serve in the US military and then returned to be a key figure in the Golden Age of NY graffiti. That isn't affected by the number of prints produced and personally I think money just obscures the true value. Just my 2c worth. Well said feral. I would just add that I have a great deal of respect for Nuart and all they have given to this scene. The moment it becomes just about money, I'm out.
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by yorkie on Jul 10, 2016 1:29:24 GMT 1, Agree with docean.
Not the ethical way of doing this IMO.
Yorkie.
Agree with docean.
Not the ethical way of doing this IMO.
Yorkie.
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by kbfrombk on Jul 10, 2016 1:46:30 GMT 1, Dealing with customers all day it definitely is a sore spot to hear another one whining about being forced to buy something... I've never had a gun to my head when checking out on a print drop; take a deep breath and analyze the veracity of the decision you're about to make, people! And hey if you're stoned and that just isn't possible that's totally fine too.
Anyone helping put this show and sale together should be appreciated for their contributions, as well as the added insight we're granted by these 'insiders ' willing to take the time to comment openly here.
Sell the prints for what you wish and when, but don't use acidic attacks to defend your decisions.
My 2ยข (can I be made a guardian now!?!)
Dealing with customers all day it definitely is a sore spot to hear another one whining about being forced to buy something... I've never had a gun to my head when checking out on a print drop; take a deep breath and analyze the veracity of the decision you're about to make, people! And hey if you're stoned and that just isn't possible that's totally fine too.
Anyone helping put this show and sale together should be appreciated for their contributions, as well as the added insight we're granted by these 'insiders ' willing to take the time to comment openly here.
Sell the prints for what you wish and when, but don't use acidic attacks to defend your decisions.
My 2ยข (can I be made a guardian now!?!)
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Reader on Jul 10, 2016 10:22:30 GMT 1, Agree with docean. Not the ethical way of doing this IMO. Yorkie. And splitting a set a week after buying it to sell a single print to members of our community for over x 20 cost, is ? I guess if you regard everyone involved in the culture as little individual micro businesses whose sole aim is self interest and to profit as much as you can from the culture, then yes, it would be against those ethics. I can live with that.
Agree with docean. Not the ethical way of doing this IMO. Yorkie. And splitting a set a week after buying it to sell a single print to members of our community for over x 20 cost, is ? I guess if you regard everyone involved in the culture as little individual micro businesses whose sole aim is self interest and to profit as much as you can from the culture, then yes, it would be against those ethics. I can live with that.
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Reader on Jul 10, 2016 16:16:44 GMT 1, Anyone else with an issue about my price or motives, take your opinion and shove it up your ass where it belongs. How to win friends and influence people..
Anyone else with an issue about my price or motives, take your opinion and shove it up your ass where it belongs. How to win friends and influence people..
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by smokinfish on Jul 11, 2016 0:11:02 GMT 1, What's up with hijacking someone else's for sale thread to promote your own sale. From a gallery no less.
If you wanted to sell your overrun prints and/or your remaining box sets you should of started your own thread. IMHO
not to mention your own ad states: Featuring exclusive, signed limited edition screenprints from 15 of the worlds leading names in Street and Urban Art.
Now your saying these are not limited editions?!
What's up with hijacking someone else's for sale thread to promote your own sale. From a gallery no less.
If you wanted to sell your overrun prints and/or your remaining box sets you should of started your own thread. IMHO
not to mention your own ad states: Featuring exclusive, signed limited edition screenprints from 15 of the worlds leading names in Street and Urban Art.
Now your saying these are not limited editions?!
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Philippe on Sept 16, 2016 20:08:22 GMT 1, Hello, I am selling a Faile Dog black light print for a friend. Best offer gets it.
I also have a Futura original, which measures 12x16" on canvas. Full provenance. Members I've dealt with will have priority.
Thanks for reading!
Hello, I am selling a Faile Dog black light print for a friend. Best offer gets it.
I also have a Futura original, which measures 12x16" on canvas. Full provenance. Members I've dealt with will have priority.
Thanks for reading!
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Kawsisking on Oct 5, 2016 14:04:10 GMT 1, Hi All,
I am selling my Futura limited edition of 100 sold out print "Starstruck". The work is in mint condition and is from 2015.
Details: Two colour screenprint on Conqueror Connoisseur 180 GSM paper
30 x 30 cm
Edition of 100
Signed
Thanks so much!
Hi All, I am selling my Futura limited edition of 100 sold out print "Starstruck". The work is in mint condition and is from 2015. Details: Two colour screenprint on Conqueror Connoisseur 180 GSM paper 30 x 30 cm Edition of 100 Signed Thanks so much!
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Feral Things on Oct 5, 2016 19:34:04 GMT 1, There's an excellent documentary called 'Rubble Kings' currently available on the BBC iPlayer (if you're not in the UK you can rent if on Vimeo here). The film documents the 1960s and 1970s gang culture of the Bronx and how hip hop evolved out of that environment, or at least the three elements of hop hop other than graffiti. The documentary includes lots of first hand interviews including with Afrika Bambaataa and DJ Kool Herc, as well as many of the gang members themselves. The documentary is available here and there's a trailer below:
There's an excellent documentary called ' Rubble Kings' currently available on the BBC iPlayer (if you're not in the UK you can rent if on Vimeo here). The film documents the 1960s and 1970s gang culture of the Bronx and how hip hop evolved out of that environment, or at least the three elements of hop hop other than graffiti. The documentary includes lots of first hand interviews including with Afrika Bambaataa and DJ Kool Herc, as well as many of the gang members themselves. The documentary is available here and there's a trailer below:
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by unlkleandy on Oct 5, 2016 22:18:54 GMT 1, What you looking for cash wise?
What you looking for cash wise?
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Kawsisking on Oct 6, 2016 0:10:41 GMT 1, What you looking for cash wise?
$500 + shipping.
What you looking for cash wise? $500 + shipping.
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Bazaaart on Oct 6, 2016 17:21:35 GMT 1, Just watched that Sneakerheadz documentary featuring Futura. Pretty cool the collab he did with Nike
Just watched that Sneakerheadz documentary featuring Futura. Pretty cool the collab he did with Nike
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by yorkie on Oct 7, 2016 18:11:20 GMT 1, This is an amazing price - you really are almost giving it away!
I have this mounted....
And I would not sell it at 3 x that price.... GLWTS
Yorkie
This is an amazing price - you really are almost giving it away! I have this mounted.... And I would not sell it at 3 x that price.... GLWTS Yorkie
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Deleted on Oct 7, 2016 18:15:53 GMT 1, Too cheap
Too cheap
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Kawsisking on Oct 12, 2016 16:40:08 GMT 1, This is sold now.
This is sold now.
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Whitefish on Oct 12, 2016 18:50:13 GMT 1, This is an amazing price - you really are almost giving it away! I have this mounted.... And I would not sell it at 3 x that price.... GLWTS Yorkie Just had to see what it would look like this way. Nice frame up!
This is an amazing price - you really are almost giving it away! I have this mounted.... And I would not sell it at 3 x that price.... GLWTS Yorkie Just had to see what it would look like this way. Nice frame up!
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Dear All,need to make some room and will let some work go. I will not sell all. I put very fair prices on the works. Actually most below my costs and below primary. But if I went to much north or even to cheap. Pls shout out. Feel free to make me offers or partial trade ins. Payment plans are possible. Thanks for your attention. Works are based in Berlin / germany. Cheers, nm -------------------- JR" Women Are Heroes" 348 page hard backed book- SOLD measuring 33.5 cm x 23 cm, each with individual hand-pasted covers, a limited edition of 75 copies stamped by the artist Condition: original โartistโ condition. PRICE: 350 euros. www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/29708936074/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/29708940344/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30338790435/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30303838696/in/album-72157674055787260/Mariano print - SOLD 4 colors screenprint on 100% cotton paper edition of 100 copies, signed and numbered by the artist work size: 56 x 76 cm, frame (pro job, massive wood) size: PRICE: 800 euros www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30042341980/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30338824965/in/album-72157674055787260/FAILE - SOLD Faile: Works on Wood Artist Edition (of 100) I have both editions. New York and Berlin which are both totally different. Release Date: October 2014 Format: 24โรโ30x 6 โcm Features: Full color, hardcover, โจ320 pages Product details: Signed, stamped and hand-numbered book in painted wooden slipcase. Each work unique PRICE: 340 euros per copy. 650 euros fort he set. www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/29708908784/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/29707653743/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/29707657573/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/29708922424/in/album-72157674055787260/BARRY MC GEEHand altered Barry Mcgee Poster from SFAQ. Newsprint, spray paint, guache and ink. the blue head looking to the left is completely hand painted. work size: 30 x 25cm frame size: 39,5x34 cm framed to museums standard behind UC protected plexi. very good provenance from SFAQ. PRICE: 2.600 euros www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30303890726/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30303888716/in/album-72157674055787260/HANDMADE ZINE Nice portfolio of 9 works works with different sizes material. All framed. They had been in a set. Artist condition. Itยดs pin drawings. Silkscreened, marker paint etc. PRICE: 900 euros www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30253186971/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30303946766/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30338848615/in/album-72157674055787260/FUTURAScreenprint on 180gsm Conqueror Connoisseur paper 11.75 x 11.75 in (29.85 x 29.85 cm) Edition of 100 unframed, mint condition PRICE: 450 euros I bought two copies and wanted to hang them both, but figure out starstruck looks good next to a pointman. Here is how I framd them for just 15 euros ikea frame: www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/29708904654/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30253081701/in/album-72157674055787260/DANIEL ARSHAM (two works) - SOLDRectangular Excavation, 2012Gouache on mylar with sand, resin, and glass in artist's frame 19.25 x 23.25 in (48.9 x 59.06 cm) this work was shown in a museum show from arsham. Miami Gallery provenance. PRICE: 4.800,- euro (8k USD original costs, primary is 10 to 12k I assume) www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30222651562/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30253111821/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30253117321/in/album-72157674055787260/Moon Jetty, 2012Gouache on mylar in shattered glass frame 19.25 x 23.25 in (48.5 x 59.5 cm) this work was shown in a museum show from arsham. OHWOW provenance. PRICE: 4.800,- euro (8k USD original costs, primary is 10 to 12k I assume) www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30222655232/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/29708953184/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30303859016/in/album-72157674055787260/SHEPARD FAIREY / OBEY - SOLD 7 inch lasercut, handpainted and spraypaint vinyl. Give to premium collectors. Included is a provenance letter from the original owner. Well known member form this forum. PRICE: 450 euros www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30042611990/in/album-72157674055787260/www.flickr.com/photos/139180627@N02/30253423201/in/album-72157674055787260/
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by oxfordwelshchap on Oct 15, 2016 16:45:52 GMT 1, Now that's how to do a sale thread. Great prices. Wish I wasn't broke!
Now that's how to do a sale thread. Great prices. Wish I wasn't broke!
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by 1ate7 on Oct 15, 2016 17:41:25 GMT 1, thanks mate! I should ass: I have crates for JR and for both Daniel Arshams. cheers, nm
thanks mate! I should ass: I have crates for JR and for both Daniel Arshams. cheers, nm
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by pgm on Oct 15, 2016 18:36:00 GMT 1, Wow, excellent works. I feel an itch especially for the Arshams GLWTS
Wow, excellent works. I feel an itch especially for the Arshams GLWTS
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by artnerd on Oct 15, 2016 18:59:22 GMT 1, Pm sent. GLWST!
Pm sent. GLWST!
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by 1ate7 on Oct 15, 2016 19:37:03 GMT 1, FAIREY - Sold FAILE - sold JR MARINO - sold
FAIREY - Sold FAILE - sold JR MARINO - sold
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by South Bound on Oct 15, 2016 20:24:32 GMT 1, Those are some cracking Mcgees, it is a great buy. Would snatch it up but just got a McGee literally 2 days ago.
Those are some cracking Mcgees, it is a great buy. Would snatch it up but just got a McGee literally 2 days ago.
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by 1ate7 on Oct 15, 2016 20:45:29 GMT 1, The second FAILE work on wood berlin edition is now also SOLD
The second FAILE work on wood berlin edition is now also SOLD
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by shygetshigh83 on Oct 15, 2016 21:35:44 GMT 1, Nico is a great guy to deal with, buy with confidence! GLWS! Those Arsham are really lovely and always tempting...
Nico is a great guy to deal with, buy with confidence! GLWS! Those Arsham are really lovely and always tempting...
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by 1ate7 on Oct 16, 2016 19:11:30 GMT 1, Thanks for all pmยดs. Answered all. strong interest in futura and arsham. Iยดm ready to make another small discount for a quick deal.
Thanks for all pmยดs. Answered all. strong interest in futura and arsham. Iยดm ready to make another small discount for a quick deal.
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by 1ate7 on Oct 17, 2016 12:14:50 GMT 1, JR book is on hold now.
JR book is on hold now.
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by 1ate7 on Oct 17, 2016 17:00:36 GMT 1, DANIEL ARSHAM (two works) - BOTH ON HOLD, waiting for payment
JR book is pending. The barry mcgeeยดs and Futura have strong interesrt but not sold yet. Actually I donยดt mind to keep at least on of the Barry mc geeยดs :-)
thanks for all messages and interest.
DANIEL ARSHAM (two works) - BOTH ON HOLD, waiting for payment
JR book is pending. The barry mcgeeยดs and Futura have strong interesrt but not sold yet. Actually I donยดt mind to keep at least on of the Barry mc geeยดs :-)
thanks for all messages and interest.
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by 1ate7 on Oct 17, 2016 19:08:04 GMT 1, JR book is sold!
JR book is sold!
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