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Influences in the art world, by jimmy81 on Nov 15, 2020 19:14:10 GMT 1, Hello,
I want to express my discomfort to see published a photograph of a collector with 3 identical pieces (changes color) by Edga Plans.
I am a follower of Edgar but when I saw this the day he published it, my disappointment was maximum.
He also comments on his instagram (Deleted all comments) that it is the fault of the company that managed the sale but from my point of view he would also have to manage part of the process.
He announces that in 2021 a new figure will come out that I think I will no longer buy.
I think I'm not the only one who thinks like this. Can you give your opinion?
Hello, I want to express my discomfort to see published a photograph of a collector with 3 identical pieces (changes color) by Edga Plans. I am a follower of Edgar but when I saw this the day he published it, my disappointment was maximum. He also comments on his instagram (Deleted all comments) that it is the fault of the company that managed the sale but from my point of view he would also have to manage part of the process. He announces that in 2021 a new figure will come out that I think I will no longer buy. I think I'm not the only one who thinks like this. Can you give your opinion? |
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Influences in the art world, by Javier on Nov 15, 2020 19:31:34 GMT 1, 100% agree with you. 100% disagree with him. Lately I’ve seen a couple of things from him i don’t like. I’m now decided to sell his book. (I’ll open a new thread for it)
100% agree with you. 100% disagree with him. Lately I’ve seen a couple of things from him i don’t like. I’m now decided to sell his book. (I’ll open a new thread for it)
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Influences in the art world, by duffer31 on Nov 15, 2020 20:20:52 GMT 1, If you have the money you can join the cool club. BUT if you get in early you can flip that ish for good money and move on to the next up and coming artist.
If you have the money you can join the cool club. BUT if you get in early you can flip that ish for good money and move on to the next up and coming artist.
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Influences in the art world, by pr.yu on Nov 15, 2020 20:34:39 GMT 1, Is this surprising?
They all do this.
Even the folks at Pest Control.
Is this surprising?
They all do this.
Even the folks at Pest Control.
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Influences in the art world, by bdc on Nov 15, 2020 20:50:09 GMT 1, For me it’s the fact that on ig he said “I’m sure they all went to good collections” the problem being it was all the same collection.
For me it’s the fact that on ig he said “I’m sure they all went to good collections” the problem being it was all the same collection.
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Influences in the art world, by Beibo on Nov 16, 2020 11:52:12 GMT 1, His instagram stories seem lately an online store, nike, bicycles, kimoa, shoes ... and I like edgar but lately I don't know...
His instagram stories seem lately an online store, nike, bicycles, kimoa, shoes ... and I like edgar but lately I don't know...
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Influences in the art world, by Arty Farty 15 on Nov 16, 2020 12:01:01 GMT 1, Can’t believe any of you are getting hung up over this. They are literally child’s toys. If anyone came round and saw them on my shelf, all art credibility will go out of the window. I really think people have lost sight of urban and contemporary art and what looks good - just cos it’s hyped by a few french kids.
Can’t believe any of you are getting hung up over this. They are literally child’s toys. If anyone came round and saw them on my shelf, all art credibility will go out of the window. I really think people have lost sight of urban and contemporary art and what looks good - just cos it’s hyped by a few french kids.
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Influences in the art world, by duffer31 on Nov 16, 2020 16:31:43 GMT 1, Can’t believe any of you are getting hung up over this. They are literally child’s toys. If anyone came round and saw them on my shelf, all art credibility will go out of the window. I really think people have lost sight of urban and contemporary art and what looks good - just cos it’s hyped by a few french kids.
You could say the same thing about the artwork.
More importantly, Never worry about others think.
Can’t believe any of you are getting hung up over this. They are literally child’s toys. If anyone came round and saw them on my shelf, all art credibility will go out of the window. I really think people have lost sight of urban and contemporary art and what looks good - just cos it’s hyped by a few french kids. You could say the same thing about the artwork. More importantly, Never worry about others think. |
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Influences in the art world, by Deleted on Nov 16, 2020 16:44:09 GMT 1, Can’t believe any of you are getting hung up over this. They are literally child’s toys. If anyone came round and saw them on my shelf, all art credibility will go out of the window. I really think people have lost sight of urban and contemporary art and what looks good - just cos it’s hyped by a few french kids.
Can’t believe any of you are getting hung up over this. They are literally child’s toys. If anyone came round and saw them on my shelf, all art credibility will go out of the window. I really think people have lost sight of urban and contemporary art and what looks good - just cos it’s hyped by a few french kids. Exactly - there are loads more sensible things to buy like door mats, plates, book slip cases and face masks. These people need to grow up! |
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Influences in the art world, by The Italian One on Nov 16, 2020 16:44:24 GMT 1, well you see those toys next to supreme goods and sneakers .... enough said !
well you see those toys next to supreme goods and sneakers .... enough said !
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Influences in the art world, by nobokov on Nov 16, 2020 16:49:05 GMT 1, Can’t believe any of you are getting hung up over this. They are literally child’s toys. If anyone came round and saw them on my shelf, all art credibility will go out of the window. I really think people have lost sight of urban and contemporary art and what looks good - just cos it’s hyped by a few french kids.
Can’t believe any of you are getting hung up over this. They are literally child’s toys. If anyone came round and saw them on my shelf, all art credibility will go out of the window. I really think people have lost sight of urban and contemporary art and what looks good - just cos it’s hyped by a few french kids. Some would argue that they're adult toys. But these ones don't vibrate as much. |
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Influences in the art world, by The Italian One on Nov 16, 2020 16:51:00 GMT 1, Can’t believe any of you are getting hung up over this. They are literally child’s toys. If anyone came round and saw them on my shelf, all art credibility will go out of the window. I really think people have lost sight of urban and contemporary art and what looks good - just cos it’s hyped by a few french kids. Some would argue that they're adult toys. But these ones don't vibrate as much.
Can’t believe any of you are getting hung up over this. They are literally child’s toys. If anyone came round and saw them on my shelf, all art credibility will go out of the window. I really think people have lost sight of urban and contemporary art and what looks good - just cos it’s hyped by a few french kids. Some would argue that they're adult toys. But these ones don't vibrate as much. ahahhahahah |
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Influences in the art world, by tab1 on Nov 16, 2020 17:45:38 GMT 1, Setting a price hike ,setting a false limited supply , most artists do this and can see how easily this works if you have been following Thierry noirs works
Setting a price hike ,setting a false limited supply , most artists do this and can see how easily this works if you have been following Thierry noirs works
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Influences in the art world, by Asteroid on Nov 16, 2020 18:01:16 GMT 1, I would say that the majority of successful urban art (with a few exceptions) has political overtones, which is why Banksy took the world by storm.
Toys even if designed by popular contemporary artists, are still that - toys.
A plate is also still a plate, not something that I would have on my wall, it has a very 1970/80s feel which reminds me of Franklin Mint. At least with the recent Artist Plate Project it is supporting the homeless.
The doormat in reference by Banksy has emotion literally embedded within the piece. It cannot be compared to anything Edgar Plans has ever produced. In fact, the majority of recent artists listed on this website are pure tripe, and will not have the longevity of the old skool POW coalition.
The recent spate of artists on this site, I see are for pump and dump purposes - for investment, buy strong visually pleasing images with meaning.
I would say that the majority of successful urban art (with a few exceptions) has political overtones, which is why Banksy took the world by storm.
Toys even if designed by popular contemporary artists, are still that - toys.
A plate is also still a plate, not something that I would have on my wall, it has a very 1970/80s feel which reminds me of Franklin Mint. At least with the recent Artist Plate Project it is supporting the homeless.
The doormat in reference by Banksy has emotion literally embedded within the piece. It cannot be compared to anything Edgar Plans has ever produced. In fact, the majority of recent artists listed on this website are pure tripe, and will not have the longevity of the old skool POW coalition.
The recent spate of artists on this site, I see are for pump and dump purposes - for investment, buy strong visually pleasing images with meaning.
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jimmy81
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Influences in the art world, by jimmy81 on Nov 17, 2020 11:29:40 GMT 1, Yes, I have been observing for years about the "Influences in the world of art" but what I have explained about this artist is an exaggeration and even more publishing three identical pieces ...
Yes, I have been observing for years about the "Influences in the world of art" but what I have explained about this artist is an exaggeration and even more publishing three identical pieces ...
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Influences in the art world, by Asteroid on Nov 17, 2020 11:45:11 GMT 1, Yes, I have been observing for years about the "Influences in the world of art" but what I have explained about this artist is an exaggeration and even more publishing three identical pieces ...
Yes, I have been observing for years about the "Influences in the world of art" but what I have explained about this artist is an exaggeration and even more publishing three identical pieces ... Some Artists are like sportsman, with a certain early retirement age. They need to 'make hay, while the sun shines'. Even they know that they have a limited lifespan in this industry, so I congratulate the ones that have the foresight to produce as much work as possible, with as many colours/editions as possible. If there is demand from collectors to buy, why not produce as much as you can? |
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Influences in the art world, by jimmy81 on Nov 17, 2020 11:52:25 GMT 1, I agree that they produce as much as they can but do not say "Only 1 per person" or that the pieces go to only wealthy collectors.
I remember the day he put it up for sale, I was in front of the computer to get one ... and when I found the photo of the collector with three pieces, my disappointment was maximum.
By the way said collector already deleted the comment he wrote on instagram.
I agree that they produce as much as they can but do not say "Only 1 per person" or that the pieces go to only wealthy collectors.
I remember the day he put it up for sale, I was in front of the computer to get one ... and when I found the photo of the collector with three pieces, my disappointment was maximum.
By the way said collector already deleted the comment he wrote on instagram.
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Influences in the art world, by medichead on Nov 17, 2020 12:26:05 GMT 1, Easily recognisable as @collection_montparnasse.
Occasionally he actually seems to buy the odd gem, but mostly garish, uncultured tat at a volume that seems unhealthy even in the context of a high budget.
Three points on this subject:
1) this is a toy, and he's done you a favour by missing out
2) what an incredibly fortunate existence one must enjoy to be upset at missing out on a drop of a toy from a contemporary artist.
3) the perceived scarcity is a very deliberate marketing and branding ploy.
Easily recognisable as @collection_montparnasse.
Occasionally he actually seems to buy the odd gem, but mostly garish, uncultured tat at a volume that seems unhealthy even in the context of a high budget.
Three points on this subject:
1) this is a toy, and he's done you a favour by missing out
2) what an incredibly fortunate existence one must enjoy to be upset at missing out on a drop of a toy from a contemporary artist.
3) the perceived scarcity is a very deliberate marketing and branding ploy.
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Influences in the art world, by Arty Farty 15 on Nov 17, 2020 12:47:24 GMT 1, Easily recognisable as @collection_montparnasse. Occasionally he actually seems to buy the odd gem, but mostly garish, uncultured tat at a volume that seems unhealthy even in the context of a high budget. Three points on this subject: 1) this is a toy, and he's done you a favour by missing out 2) what an incredibly fortunate existence one must enjoy to be upset at missing out on a drop of a toy from a contemporary artist. 3) the perceived scarcity is a very deliberate marketing and branding ploy.
Agreed. The OP and his discomfort really is pathetic and this is a primary example of first world problems.
Easily recognisable as @collection_montparnasse. Occasionally he actually seems to buy the odd gem, but mostly garish, uncultured tat at a volume that seems unhealthy even in the context of a high budget. Three points on this subject: 1) this is a toy, and he's done you a favour by missing out 2) what an incredibly fortunate existence one must enjoy to be upset at missing out on a drop of a toy from a contemporary artist. 3) the perceived scarcity is a very deliberate marketing and branding ploy. Agreed. The OP and his discomfort really is pathetic and this is a primary example of first world problems. |
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Influences in the art world, by kuni on Nov 17, 2020 14:43:37 GMT 1, Easily recognisable as @collection_montparnasse. Occasionally he actually seems to buy the odd gem, but mostly garish, uncultured tat at a volume that seems unhealthy even in the context of a high budget. Three points on this subject: 1) this is a toy, and he's done you a favour by missing out 2) what an incredibly fortunate existence one must enjoy to be upset at missing out on a drop of a toy from a contemporary artist. 3) the perceived scarcity is a very deliberate marketing and branding ploy.
If you buy basically anything and everything that's hyped you're going to stumble ass backwards into some winners.
Easily recognisable as @collection_montparnasse. Occasionally he actually seems to buy the odd gem, but mostly garish, uncultured tat at a volume that seems unhealthy even in the context of a high budget. Three points on this subject: 1) this is a toy, and he's done you a favour by missing out 2) what an incredibly fortunate existence one must enjoy to be upset at missing out on a drop of a toy from a contemporary artist. 3) the perceived scarcity is a very deliberate marketing and branding ploy. If you buy basically anything and everything that's hyped you're going to stumble ass backwards into some winners. |
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Influences in the art world, by The Italian One on Nov 17, 2020 15:06:25 GMT 1, Welcome to the reality of the "Oh, I didn't know"... "It was someone else's fault"... "It's a secret lottery"... "No pre-sales (and then you discover 99% of the edition is gone already". Unfortunately this is how some artists and galleries are deciding to proceed at the moment. Also some collectors are not even smart enough to hide it (or they don't give a damn). After 2 weeks you can see pictures on IG of the usual handful of collectors with the edition, or even multiples of the same edition - when it was "Only 1 per customer". It's not surprising news. Establish a good relationship (aka buy a lot) from a gallery / artist and you'll have some extra chances of getting new editions.
Welcome to the reality of the "Oh, I didn't know"... "It was someone else's fault"... "It's a secret lottery"... "No pre-sales (and then you discover 99% of the edition is gone already". Unfortunately this is how some artists and galleries are deciding to proceed at the moment. Also some collectors are not even smart enough to hide it (or they don't give a damn). After 2 weeks you can see pictures on IG of the usual handful of collectors with the edition, or even multiples of the same edition - when it was "Only 1 per customer". It's not surprising news. Establish a good relationship (aka buy a lot) from a gallery / artist and you'll have some extra chances of getting new editions. case closed! |
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