tell you what boston, i may be an antagonistic fucker at times, but i dont ever take things to a personal level where i mock or belittle someones death or suffering.

What you did though was take it to a new low. So rather then extend the hand of apology, you extend your fist - typical response from someone who i would expect nothing less from - and really goes to show how much a delightful character you are.

I am an advocate of what goes around comes around, like karma - and you laugh at someones misfortune today, they will piss themselves laughing at yours tomorrow and god forbid that isnt too soon for you - because unlike you, I have a lot more class and obviously more dignity

Dont bother responding i am not interested in your response.

I do like the pieces, definitely... and I don't think you'd be compromising yourself to put them out empty with maybe a note in the bottom asking to call a number to arrange a refill... I mean its not as if you would be putting the actual drugs in the things, its the outraged or interested reaction you're after I take it, rather than flogging your drugs for 20p a pop()... I'd personally hate to think an art prank such as this could end up with 100 hours community service or worse, which frankly I really wouldnt be too surprised to read about in the press. Ignore all of that... makes no difference anyway.

That does remind me of a condom machine in a pub I used to frequent in my youth, which would kick out printed business cards saying "So... you want to be a jedi? Best you just f**k off then!" when it was empty, you lost your quid but at least got a weird chuckle and card out of it... most annoying at the time, no doubt though.

You could even use the soundtrack from any calls (cheapo one-off unregged PAYG?) for the film, though it might come across a tad fonejacker? And it would give an opportunity to add a "ASK FRANK" type message to cover your bare, exposed, litigious ass!?

Cool... BBC24 has just gone mental for a minute or two... like, the whole matrix broke down, theyve got it back in order now though!

wow offering fisticuffs on the forum that is big of you ! i got airmiles to use but i prefer to go somewhere nice for a wee holiday than land in good ole usa for a ruck. you were in no doubt incorrect on commenting on someones tragic demise through drugs . no matter you offer to fight to resolve , inter continental bashings of the lesser humans as you see it .....
we have all lost friends and family through whatever , but i would not dream of commenting on others misfortune unless .......guess what .........it was yours .

perhaps it would be better if you took out all the drug references and filled it up with bouncy balls, nobody gets upset and you'll make quite a hefty markup

just be sure to have all the correct licenses as well as permission from the land owner before pursuing

Haha! I think I will stick to my original plans. Its going on the street or in the arcades on Brighton Pier

I took it out on a test run last night and it got quite a reaction! It caught the eye of these two tramps, to my surprise they totally understood the piece and loved it.

You misread... the card in it is a single card you read through the glass to phone for a refill - and I dont see how this compromises the piece at all? Explain?

The ask Frank, if you wanted, would be like a disclaimer on the phone message. You may well be astounded.

I've only skimmed this, so if the meaning/message about this has already been stated then I'm sorry. But what exactly is the message? What did the tramps totally understand?

Is it pointing the easy availability of said items? Or just a in-yer-face shock tactic? I would not be best pleased if my child was to stumble upon this and ask questions, I dunno i just don't 'get' this,please explain as i would like to understand it

BTW Insite is bang on about "going equipped to commit fraud"

I think this is a great piece, particularly here in Brighton. I wouldn't be surprised if you get into some trouble, because it is in the street and people like to shut their eyes and avoid most problems these days, and then have an over-reaction when they finally deal with it.

If you don't want to hear the bad news why not shoot the messenger?

DM&P... I totally appreciate where you come from and agree that intent, from a legal position, is (and should be) at the basis of this and, to us here, that Imbue's intent is based purely in art and politics and therefore should be covered by "freedom of expression"... however, as also has been demonstrated here: the actual intent, artistic, political or otherwise is not that clear, and as far as I know we also do not have a "freedom of expression" clause in "our constitution".

This is the part of the CPS document that I was referring to...
"In addition to the supply of a controlled drug, Section 4(3) of the Act creates offences of offering to supply, being concerned in the supply and being concerned in the making of an offer to supply. An offence of offering to supply can be prosecuted simply by proving the existence of an offer. The prosecution does not have to prove either that the defendant intended to produce the drugs or that the drugs were in his/her possession." Much like attempting to shoot someone with a table leg... this is why intent is the be all and end all... it is arguable, intent is always arguable and with the wrong guy on the wrong day - who knows?
Also, the precedent (which I have tried to find more out about but have not been successful... I could sign up to some legal group at a cost, but anyway...) "(R v Dhillon 2000 CLR 760) The fact that the drug is different/not controlled/bogus is irrelevant as is the fact that there is/was no intention to supply." - this for me, shows that in the past something fairly similar, actual intent aside, has occurred and been successfully prosecuted... whereby it was clearly evident and accepted that no actual drug was involved and it was also accepted that no actual intention to supply, even though it was not an actual drug, was evident either. BUT even so the prosecution was, clearly from the angle of the text, successful. This document, I believe is used by the CPS in understanding whether they should bring forward a prosecution... this is not the first line involved and involves a level of judgement and reasonability not available in earlier stages.

Like I said from the get go... I like the pieces and do applaud him, but the potentials that do exist, imho, far outweigh any real message that could be conveyed (conveighed? sp??) - essentially if you like, preaching to the converted. And furthermore, to potentially limit one's own future travel, education or employment, which I feel would be the worst of any punishment, but also potential fines or community service (or worse, dear god, I really would hope not!!) just don't make it worthwhile... second guessing jobsworths is a very tricky thing to do - we've all met them, god only knows how they tick, but they do and too often they find their way into authority.

Even if my post, only, acts as a position to allow Imbue to climb down or go into his venture better armed with the law then good... I'd love to know how it went if, as and when they are placed and I'd hate to think anyone would take away any message in a negative manner, but really, don't imbue (sorry!) the authorities with a sensitivity that at times they clearly do not demonstrate, I've not witnessed it too often - all it takes is the wrong guy on the wrong day.

You're totally not wrong about the message not being lost on MOST people, its the others that usually cause the trouble, though, aint it!? It certainly raises discussion, I dunno... maybe I'm just too cynical? Heck, maybe this is a reason why I'm not an artist? Maybe its my age? Maybe I'm just not rock n roll enough any more or ever was? Maybe I have more to lose now than I did in my youth? Maybe I just don't have the courage of my convictions? Maybe I'm just chicken-s**t? But personally, and as with most people I have had friends ruined and worse by drug use, I still don't think any message from these would be worth the potential personal penalty - not as a public guerilla installation anyway.

I'd really just hate to think something bad would happen, especially when initially we were all, like, yeah - cool... do it! do it!

Felt a bit of balance, for Imbue's sake, was called for - graffiti's one thing - you generally know what law(s) you're breaking, getting filled in by some irate scum-reader (or even worse, the Mail or Express - we are talking Brighton, and think of the humilation) or the authoritahs is a totally different thing... especially on such an inflammatory area.

Whether this piece is good or bad, is irrelevant, it has made many people stop, think (use the term loosely) and comment, therefore as a piece of art is had obviously achieved it's objective.

Or to put it more succinctly....liking it is subjective, but as a piece of art it achieves it's objective.

Did a photo shoot and a bit of filming today. Went well and no arrests were made Provoked a strong reaction and more people than I thought noticed the machine!



My photographer is sending over some photo's later I will put them up when I get them.

imbue

10/10 and i havent even clicked the link yet