iamzero
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NFT Vs Real art, by iamzero on Mar 10, 2021 13:57:30 GMT 1, Is this just some kind of Trading Places bet?
So I’ve created a spray painted stencil image onto a canvas... how do I sell this as an NTF?
Is this just some kind of Trading Places bet?
So I’ve created a spray painted stencil image onto a canvas... how do I sell this as an NTF?
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kuni
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NFT Vs Real art, by kuni on Mar 10, 2021 14:01:53 GMT 1, Is this just some kind of Trading Places bet? So I’ve created a spray painted stencil image onto a canvas... how do I sell this as an NTF? You've either got to set the canvas on fire or yourself on fire and record it.
For all you chaps that love the NFT space you'll be happy to know that DFace just announced he's dropping an NFT in the coming days.
Is this just some kind of Trading Places bet? So I’ve created a spray painted stencil image onto a canvas... how do I sell this as an NTF? You've either got to set the canvas on fire or yourself on fire and record it. For all you chaps that love the NFT space you'll be happy to know that DFace just announced he's dropping an NFT in the coming days.
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iamzero
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NFT Vs Real art, by iamzero on Mar 10, 2021 14:25:09 GMT 1, Should I go skulls, butterflies or Disney characters in ridiculous situations?
Should I go skulls, butterflies or Disney characters in ridiculous situations?
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kuni
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NFT Vs Real art, by kuni on Mar 10, 2021 14:49:41 GMT 1, Should I go skulls, butterflies or Disney characters in ridiculous situations? My call would probably be Micky Mouse wearing a gas mask bending over to observe a butterfly on a flower. But the CATCH would be that the butterfly would have the Bitcoin logo on each of its wings. In this scenario because you are also going after the crypto crowd the obligatory skulls are supplanted by a crypto trope. Edgy as f**k. A quick perusal of the Art For Sale section will yield a wealth of alternative and equally derivative stencil mashups to work with inspired by Banksy's early 2000s imagery and iconography. Don't forget to light yourself on fire and film it.
Should I go skulls, butterflies or Disney characters in ridiculous situations? My call would probably be Micky Mouse wearing a gas mask bending over to observe a butterfly on a flower. But the CATCH would be that the butterfly would have the Bitcoin logo on each of its wings. In this scenario because you are also going after the crypto crowd the obligatory skulls are supplanted by a crypto trope. Edgy as f**k. A quick perusal of the Art For Sale section will yield a wealth of alternative and equally derivative stencil mashups to work with inspired by Banksy's early 2000s imagery and iconography. Don't forget to light yourself on fire and film it.
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NFT Vs Real art, by acaipride on Mar 10, 2021 15:09:41 GMT 1, What everyone is missing is the big picture...what is under the hood when you open up any of these? What is being used to give it value?
Buy that.
Not this.
Come back to this comment in 3months, or 6, or in 10yrs. And give 10% to a local children's charity after
What everyone is missing is the big picture...what is under the hood when you open up any of these? What is being used to give it value?
Buy that.
Not this.
Come back to this comment in 3months, or 6, or in 10yrs. And give 10% to a local children's charity after
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NFT Vs Real art, by Happy Shopper on Mar 10, 2021 15:25:40 GMT 1, What everyone is missing is the big picture...what is under the hood when you open up any of these? What is being used to give it value? Buy that. Not this. Come back to this comment in 3months, or 6, or in 10yrs. And give 10% to a local children's charity after
This is what I just don’t understand...
Why are people paying hundreds or thousands of dollars for a bad bit of amateur art that you wouldn’t normally look twice at?
I understand these are basically like collecting baseball cards, stamps or some other obsessive collecting thing, but value is usually driven by demand and rarity. Most of this looks like rubbish, and isn’t rare.
What am I missing?
What everyone is missing is the big picture...what is under the hood when you open up any of these? What is being used to give it value? Buy that. Not this. Come back to this comment in 3months, or 6, or in 10yrs. And give 10% to a local children's charity after This is what I just don’t understand... Why are people paying hundreds or thousands of dollars for a bad bit of amateur art that you wouldn’t normally look twice at? I understand these are basically like collecting baseball cards, stamps or some other obsessive collecting thing, but value is usually driven by demand and rarity. Most of this looks like rubbish, and isn’t rare. What am I missing?
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kuni
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NFT Vs Real art, by kuni on Mar 10, 2021 15:37:40 GMT 1, What everyone is missing is the big picture...what is under the hood when you open up any of these? What is being used to give it value? Buy that. Not this. Come back to this comment in 3months, or 6, or in 10yrs. And give 10% to a local children's charity after This is what I just don’t understand... Why are people paying hundreds or thousands of dollars for a bad bit of amateur art that you wouldn’t normally look twice at? I understand these are basically like collecting baseball cards, stamps or some other obsessive collecting thing, but value is usually driven by demand and rarity. Most of this looks like rubbish, and isn’t rare. What am I missing? You're pretty spot on. 97% of the art is rubbish and you'd never look twice at it if it was physical. It's really amateur hour. But there are some bright spots with artists pushing and innovating with digital as a new medium. It'll be interesting to see what happens when artists that are loved here move into the space...you can bet that Nava, KAWS and many many others are kicking the tires. Amir Fallah is dropping a piece tomorrow. My prediction is the bar will slowly be raised and eventually this will just be considered "art"
What everyone is missing is the big picture...what is under the hood when you open up any of these? What is being used to give it value? Buy that. Not this. Come back to this comment in 3months, or 6, or in 10yrs. And give 10% to a local children's charity after This is what I just don’t understand... Why are people paying hundreds or thousands of dollars for a bad bit of amateur art that you wouldn’t normally look twice at? I understand these are basically like collecting baseball cards, stamps or some other obsessive collecting thing, but value is usually driven by demand and rarity. Most of this looks like rubbish, and isn’t rare. What am I missing? You're pretty spot on. 97% of the art is rubbish and you'd never look twice at it if it was physical. It's really amateur hour. But there are some bright spots with artists pushing and innovating with digital as a new medium. It'll be interesting to see what happens when artists that are loved here move into the space...you can bet that Nava, KAWS and many many others are kicking the tires. Amir Fallah is dropping a piece tomorrow. My prediction is the bar will slowly be raised and eventually this will just be considered "art"
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NFT Vs Real art, by jamieb on Mar 10, 2021 15:45:32 GMT 1, D*FACE x NIFTY GATEWAY WELCOME TO THE WONDERFUL NEW WORLD OF NFT’S… Coming 19.03.2021 to Nifty Gateway is the first D*Face NFT collection! This is a totally new venture for D and his art and one that we hope you’ll enjoy experiencing as much as he enjoyed creating! Here’s a quick breakdown of the evolution of D’s new collection of works that we will be revealing early next week…
D*FACE x NIFTY GATEWAY WELCOME TO THE WONDERFUL NEW WORLD OF NFT’S… Coming 19.03.2021 to Nifty Gateway is the first D*Face NFT collection! This is a totally new venture for D and his art and one that we hope you’ll enjoy experiencing as much as he enjoyed creating! Here’s a quick breakdown of the evolution of D’s new collection of works that we will be revealing early next week…
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NFT Vs Real art, by jimmyjam on Mar 11, 2021 2:08:42 GMT 1, The Steve Aoki NFT, that was just released, is already reselling for significantly lower than it's retail price. This is already crashing.
The Steve Aoki NFT, that was just released, is already reselling for significantly lower than it's retail price. This is already crashing.
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NFT Vs Real art, by Inknart on Mar 11, 2021 2:45:27 GMT 1, Don't get it at all....
Didn't KAWS do something like this last year with the virtual acute thing or whatever he sold as an edition? I think they also came with a COA, at least something physical with the NFT.
Don't get it at all....
Didn't KAWS do something like this last year with the virtual acute thing or whatever he sold as an edition? I think they also came with a COA, at least something physical with the NFT.
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NFT Vs Real art, by Rubberneck on Mar 11, 2021 3:44:42 GMT 1, who cares? i refuse 2 get sucked into this whole nft bs.... it’s gimmicky af, absolute shit artist 1st goes at it selling at 5 figure numbers? hard pass, even if this is the future 4 a pubescent bit coin gang, i’ll never get into it.... ever. I feel the same about pottery..
who cares? i refuse 2 get sucked into this whole nft bs.... it’s gimmicky af, absolute shit artist 1st goes at it selling at 5 figure numbers? hard pass, even if this is the future 4 a pubescent bit coin gang, i’ll never get into it.... ever. I feel the same about pottery..
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NFT Vs Real art, by StreetArtDrone on Mar 11, 2021 3:52:24 GMT 1, You might just be getting old . Look I think its weird too but you gotta think about the youth who are growing up in a very different world than you or I. The idea is its decentralized so who cares if your hard drive crashes - it always exists in the blockchain (internet). The only real risk you run is losing your password like the stories of those dudes who have millions of $$ in bitcoin from years back but cant remember their password. For something like a print it makes sense because you have full ownership. You can use that PNG for whatever you'd like. Put the image on a mug. Fuck it. I guess to some people that's more valuable. (I'm not saying I fall in this category but I'm just trying to see it from their POV.) Its a bit different for an original piece though thats painted. You can't exactly replicate that after even after owning the digital aspect of it. In that case I think the NFT becomes the equivalent of a COA but instead of losing it within a stack of papers it just now exists in your virtual wallet (same as your iphone wallet for example). You don't understand terms and conditions. You aren't buying something that you can do whatever with, including selling. That's not necessarily true. It depends on the artist or the project. Hashmasks is a project where the owner of the hashmask also owns the copyright to the hashmask and can therefore sell mugs, tshirts, physical prints, digital prints, whatever.
You might just be getting old . Look I think its weird too but you gotta think about the youth who are growing up in a very different world than you or I. The idea is its decentralized so who cares if your hard drive crashes - it always exists in the blockchain (internet). The only real risk you run is losing your password like the stories of those dudes who have millions of $$ in bitcoin from years back but cant remember their password. For something like a print it makes sense because you have full ownership. You can use that PNG for whatever you'd like. Put the image on a mug. Fuck it. I guess to some people that's more valuable. (I'm not saying I fall in this category but I'm just trying to see it from their POV.) Its a bit different for an original piece though thats painted. You can't exactly replicate that after even after owning the digital aspect of it. In that case I think the NFT becomes the equivalent of a COA but instead of losing it within a stack of papers it just now exists in your virtual wallet (same as your iphone wallet for example). You don't understand terms and conditions. You aren't buying something that you can do whatever with, including selling. That's not necessarily true. It depends on the artist or the project. Hashmasks is a project where the owner of the hashmask also owns the copyright to the hashmask and can therefore sell mugs, tshirts, physical prints, digital prints, whatever.
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NFT Vs Real art, by Gentle Mental on Mar 11, 2021 3:53:35 GMT 1, This is only the beginning. It will evolve and be better. All good tech does. It’s always shit at first.
I like the idea of physical piece linked to an NFT. Like the kings of Leon release.
This works well with giclee. If the physical piece gets damaged we can print another. The ownership/provenance is still intact.
It’s the ultimate, most fluid COA.
The current batch of art is mostly shit. It will get better when the big name non digital artists get into the game.
Time to load up your crypto wallet!!
This is only the beginning. It will evolve and be better. All good tech does. It’s always shit at first.
I like the idea of physical piece linked to an NFT. Like the kings of Leon release.
This works well with giclee. If the physical piece gets damaged we can print another. The ownership/provenance is still intact.
It’s the ultimate, most fluid COA.
The current batch of art is mostly shit. It will get better when the big name non digital artists get into the game.
Time to load up your crypto wallet!!
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NFT Vs Real art, by Gentle Mental on Mar 11, 2021 4:35:52 GMT 1, Facebook evolved from MySpace. As films to DVD to streaming. And yahoo to Google. The list goes on.
It’s not the sites or the software - they get obsolete.
It’s the ideas that can’t be denied. Better tech will prevail - regardless of the companies running them.
I love my vinyls and silkscreens. But I listen to Spotify and stare at LED sceeens most of the time.
Crypto is the future. Read ”Life After Google” to get a hint.
Read “life after google” to get a hint.
Facebook evolved from MySpace. As films to DVD to streaming. And yahoo to Google. The list goes on.
It’s not the sites or the software - they get obsolete.
It’s the ideas that can’t be denied. Better tech will prevail - regardless of the companies running them.
I love my vinyls and silkscreens. But I listen to Spotify and stare at LED sceeens most of the time.
Crypto is the future. Read ”Life After Google” to get a hint.
Read “life after google” to get a hint.
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NFT Vs Real art, by lv90210 on Mar 11, 2021 7:54:01 GMT 1, There are NFT's being developed this second specifically angled towards this forum.
Guess what, you're all going to buy in... you just dont know it yet.
Coming Soon !
There are NFT's being developed this second specifically angled towards this forum.
Guess what, you're all going to buy in... you just dont know it yet.
Coming Soon !
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Reader
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NFT Vs Real art, by Reader on Mar 11, 2021 8:06:47 GMT 1, There are NFT's being developed this second specifically angled towards this forum. Guess what, you're all going to buy in... you just dont know it yet. Coming Soon !
A huge amount of data and academic papers on the psychology of collecting and how to trigger it. NFT ain't grassroots, that's for sure.
There are NFT's being developed this second specifically angled towards this forum. Guess what, you're all going to buy in... you just dont know it yet. Coming Soon ! A huge amount of data and academic papers on the psychology of collecting and how to trigger it. NFT ain't grassroots, that's for sure.
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NFT Vs Real art, by Happy Shopper on Mar 11, 2021 10:10:40 GMT 1, There are NFT's being developed this second specifically angled towards this forum. Guess what, you're all going to buy in... you just dont know it yet. Coming Soon ! A huge amount of data and academic papers on the psychology of collecting and how to trigger it. NFT ain't grassroots, that's for sure.
This is exactly my feeling. The people getting into NFTs now remind me of online casino gamblers. They have some disposable income in crypto, and an interest in collecting things like Supreme and Kaws, and have got sucked into a new type of collecting//investment opportunity (modern day pyramid scheme)
But I also see it’s not so different to buying a print, looking at it once, and sticking it in a portfolio, then reselling it in 5 years for 10 times the value! I think we’re just waiting for the wave of NFTs that actually appeal to us... probably by artists we understand.
There are NFT's being developed this second specifically angled towards this forum. Guess what, you're all going to buy in... you just dont know it yet. Coming Soon ! A huge amount of data and academic papers on the psychology of collecting and how to trigger it. NFT ain't grassroots, that's for sure. This is exactly my feeling. The people getting into NFTs now remind me of online casino gamblers. They have some disposable income in crypto, and an interest in collecting things like Supreme and Kaws, and have got sucked into a new type of collecting//investment opportunity (modern day pyramid scheme) But I also see it’s not so different to buying a print, looking at it once, and sticking it in a portfolio, then reselling it in 5 years for 10 times the value! I think we’re just waiting for the wave of NFTs that actually appeal to us... probably by artists we understand.
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NFT Vs Real art, by irl1 on Mar 11, 2021 10:15:22 GMT 1, If anybody has a strong UAA post that they would like to mint as an NFT, I'm BUYING. Would be particularly interested in 2006 and 2007 posts. This one is for sale later today ........
I see thevlad account was deleted
If anybody has a strong UAA post that they would like to mint as an NFT, I'm BUYING. Would be particularly interested in 2006 and 2007 posts. This one is for sale later today ........ I see thevlad account was deleted
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NFT Vs Real art, by Gentle Mental on Mar 11, 2021 10:16:56 GMT 1, It’s shit now. D face has joined. As will others when things improve.
We will all be on
It’s shit now. D face has joined. As will others when things improve.
We will all be on
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NFT Vs Real art, by Gentle Mental on Mar 11, 2021 10:26:03 GMT 1, It’s shit now. But D face has joined.
As will others when things improve, advantages undeniable and money way more lucrative for the creators and collectors.
We will all be on our keyboards all night bidding and bitching as we have done before with paper prints and printout COAs.
No more shipping insurance, creases and sun damage worries!
There will be blood. This too shall pass. The only constant is change. Time to move from zero to one. I’m thinking of ending things.
This prophetic post will be NFT’ed.
It’s shit now. But D face has joined.
As will others when things improve, advantages undeniable and money way more lucrative for the creators and collectors.
We will all be on our keyboards all night bidding and bitching as we have done before with paper prints and printout COAs.
No more shipping insurance, creases and sun damage worries!
There will be blood. This too shall pass. The only constant is change. Time to move from zero to one. I’m thinking of ending things.
This prophetic post will be NFT’ed.
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NFT Vs Real art, by acaipride on Mar 11, 2021 12:29:23 GMT 1, It’s shit now. But D face has joined. As will others when things improve, advantages undeniable and money way more lucrative for the creators and collectors. We will all be on our keyboards all night bidding and bitching as we have done before with paper prints and printout COAs. No more shipping insurance, creases and sun damage worries! There will be blood. This too shall pass. The only constant is change. Time to move from zero to one. I’m thinking of ending things. This prophetic post will be NFT’ed.
Nft is a marketing tool..there are institutions pushing for this norm...buy the underlying asset instead, not the NFT marketing propaganda.
It’s shit now. But D face has joined. As will others when things improve, advantages undeniable and money way more lucrative for the creators and collectors. We will all be on our keyboards all night bidding and bitching as we have done before with paper prints and printout COAs. No more shipping insurance, creases and sun damage worries! There will be blood. This too shall pass. The only constant is change. Time to move from zero to one. I’m thinking of ending things. This prophetic post will be NFT’ed. Nft is a marketing tool..there are institutions pushing for this norm...buy the underlying asset instead, not the NFT marketing propaganda.
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NFT Vs Real art, by dilu on Mar 11, 2021 12:44:09 GMT 1, It’s like asking would I be happy to live a life based around Spotify and the like or own my own vinyl. I like my experiences real, be it drugs drink sex and can’t understand when it’s bagged up as virtual.
Or maybe it’s a case of not quite owning the intellectual property of something but can claim to be ahead of the curve because you’ve embraced something new and everyone else are luddites? Maybe it’s all about having more money than possibly sense? Maybe just another head to toxic capitalism? Or maybe people like the idea of a polished turds?
Of course, I’m sure I’ve missed the point behind NFT.
It’s like asking would I be happy to live a life based around Spotify and the like or own my own vinyl. I like my experiences real, be it drugs drink sex and can’t understand when it’s bagged up as virtual.
Or maybe it’s a case of not quite owning the intellectual property of something but can claim to be ahead of the curve because you’ve embraced something new and everyone else are luddites? Maybe it’s all about having more money than possibly sense? Maybe just another head to toxic capitalism? Or maybe people like the idea of a polished turds?
Of course, I’m sure I’ve missed the point behind NFT.
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NFT Vs Real art, by Reader on Mar 11, 2021 12:44:11 GMT 1, The whole field of consumer psychology with hedge fund levels of finance researching how to trigger the "hoarding" region of a screenagers pre-frontal cortex to benefit our overlords. Disaster capitalism at work, be careful out there art lovers. Remember, buy what you like. #pavlovsdog #NFT #nftart
The whole field of consumer psychology with hedge fund levels of finance researching how to trigger the "hoarding" region of a screenagers pre-frontal cortex to benefit our overlords. Disaster capitalism at work, be careful out there art lovers. Remember, buy what you like. #pavlovsdog #NFT #nftart
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NFT Vs Real art, by acaipride on Mar 11, 2021 12:46:43 GMT 1, The whole field of consumer psychology with hedge fund levels of finance researching how to trigger the "hoarding" region of a screenagers pre-frontal cortex to benefit our overlords. Disaster capitalism at work, be careful out there art lovers. Remember, buy what you like. #pavlovsdog #NFT #nftart
This is real. It is part of what I do for a living...I once mentioned this psychology factor in here and was told that all of UAA now knows I'm a (insert cuss here,can't remember as it wasn't worth it) because of my line of duty
The whole field of consumer psychology with hedge fund levels of finance researching how to trigger the "hoarding" region of a screenagers pre-frontal cortex to benefit our overlords. Disaster capitalism at work, be careful out there art lovers. Remember, buy what you like. #pavlovsdog #NFT #nftart This is real. It is part of what I do for a living...I once mentioned this psychology factor in here and was told that all of UAA now knows I'm a (insert cuss here,can't remember as it wasn't worth it) because of my line of duty
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acaipride
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NFT Vs Real art, by acaipride on Mar 11, 2021 12:50:09 GMT 1, It’s like asking would I be happy to live a life based around Spotify and the like or own my own vinyl. I like my experiences real, be it drugs drink sex and can’t understand when it’s bagged up as virtual. Or maybe it’s a case of not quite owning the intellectual property of something but can claim to be ahead of the curve because you’ve embraced something new and everyone else are luddites? Maybe it’s all about having more money than possibly sense? Maybe just another head to toxic capitalism? Or maybe people like the idea of a polished turds? Of course, I’m sure I’ve missed the point behind NFT.
You would have to deal with other forum circles to know that nft/ ways to make crypto more mainstream and valuable is not being pushed only in art world.
Get the underlying asset don't fall for marketing schemes.
It’s like asking would I be happy to live a life based around Spotify and the like or own my own vinyl. I like my experiences real, be it drugs drink sex and can’t understand when it’s bagged up as virtual. Or maybe it’s a case of not quite owning the intellectual property of something but can claim to be ahead of the curve because you’ve embraced something new and everyone else are luddites? Maybe it’s all about having more money than possibly sense? Maybe just another head to toxic capitalism? Or maybe people like the idea of a polished turds? Of course, I’m sure I’ve missed the point behind NFT. You would have to deal with other forum circles to know that nft/ ways to make crypto more mainstream and valuable is not being pushed only in art world. Get the underlying asset don't fall for marketing schemes.
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NFT Vs Real art, by acaipride on Mar 11, 2021 12:58:35 GMT 1, Ok I'm wrong back to my track record.
Ok I'm wrong back to my track record.
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acaipride
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NFT Vs Real art, by acaipride on Mar 11, 2021 13:01:10 GMT 1, Ok I'm wrong back to my track record. Correct!
Lmao march 7th .
Ok I'm wrong back to my track record. Correct! Lmao march 7th .
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NFT Vs Real art, by acaipride on Mar 11, 2021 13:05:33 GMT 1, L o l, of course you would. I got buddies doing laundry with no detergent, just water, the machine has not stopped
L o l, of course you would. I got buddies doing laundry with no detergent, just water, the machine has not stopped
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NFT Vs Real art, by acaipride on Mar 11, 2021 13:09:13 GMT 1, Brrrr
ETH needs you.
Brrrr
ETH needs you.
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NFT Vs Real art, by Gentle Mental on Mar 11, 2021 17:45:46 GMT 1, Time to throw away the squeegee and upgrade your iPads dear artists!
Beeple just sold his NFT for $69m
This is not a rehearsal.
Time to throw away the squeegee and upgrade your iPads dear artists!
Beeple just sold his NFT for $69m
This is not a rehearsal.
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