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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by fusion0001 on Mar 24, 2021 20:40:32 GMT 1, Watching this on Artsy and there has not been a single online bid until the last Thrower lot with all bidding happening from "floor" bids. In previous auctions it was mostly online bids; I wonder what is the reason for lack of any online bidding interest this time
Watching this on Artsy and there has not been a single online bid until the last Thrower lot with all bidding happening from "floor" bids. In previous auctions it was mostly online bids; I wonder what is the reason for lack of any online bidding interest this time
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by u%hdjfka c on Mar 24, 2021 20:40:51 GMT 1, I just hope that the 'Thrower' buyer gets that pc coa! 
I just hope that the 'Thrower' buyer gets that pc coa! Yes I'll forward it to them when I receive it |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by irl1 on Mar 24, 2021 20:42:46 GMT 1, Bidders at auction houses have full trust in an auction house and expect due diligence to be carried out and many purchases are made blindly without bidders conducting their own checks. When these buyers come to sell their items privately, I expect potential buyers to carry out their own due diligence and first point of call would be to contact pest control whom have already stated that these are not authorized by pest control so may be a different state of affairs and effect sales on the private market.The general public would like many here initially thought, these were official Banksy authorized products.if a genuine bid, great for those that bought . Now you sound like a broken record!! The history is unquestionable I have tried to help you & others understand on many occasions!! COA are not issued on many Banksy officially authorised items thatโs not nothing new also ๐ค๐ป
How about everyone calls it a draw 
Bidders at auction houses have full trust in an auction house and expect due diligence to be carried out and many purchases are made blindly without bidders conducting their own checks. When these buyers come to sell their items privately, I expect potential buyers to carry out their own due diligence and first point of call would be to contact pest control whom have already stated that these are not authorized by pest control so may be a different state of affairs and effect sales on the private market.The general public would like many here initially thought, these were official Banksy authorized products.if a genuine bid, great for those that bought . Now you sound like a broken record!! The history is unquestionable I have tried to help you & others understand on many occasions!! COA are not issued on many Banksy officially authorised items thatโs not nothing new also ๐ค๐ป How about everyone calls it a draw |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 20:42:56 GMT 1, Just spoke to Nick, morons is actually sold, its a glitch in the system
Just spoke to Nick, morons is actually sold, its a glitch in the system
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by sgolby on Mar 24, 2021 20:43:15 GMT 1, Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently?
Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently?
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by treblenobass on Mar 24, 2021 20:43:25 GMT 1, treblenobass, more like whitenoise! And on that note I'm out!
treblenobass, more like whitenoise! And on that note I'm out! Disclosure. Great tune. Better than a broken record. At least I play ๐ |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by treblenobass on Mar 24, 2021 20:45:05 GMT 1, Now you sound like a broken record!! The history is unquestionable I have tried to help you & others understand on many occasions!! COA are not issued on many Banksy officially authorised items thatโs not nothing new also ๐ค๐ป How about everyone calls it a draw
Now you sound like a broken record!! The history is unquestionable I have tried to help you & others understand on many occasions!! COA are not issued on many Banksy officially authorised items thatโs not nothing new also ๐ค๐ป How about everyone calls it a draw These idiots condone WAR every single day. I just have fun ๐คฉ |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by iamzero on Mar 24, 2021 20:47:38 GMT 1, Crash? Barcode just fetched ยฃ100k.
Crash? Barcode just fetched ยฃ100k.
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sgolby
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by sgolby on Mar 24, 2021 20:48:35 GMT 1, Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently? Simple market forces maybe or an ensuing crash?
Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently? Simple market forces maybe or an ensuing crash? not a crash, the B man has scarcity working for him. Perhaps just a slowing down and perhaps correction of sorts. I mean it seems like every week for a while a new record was being set for one print or another. |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 20:49:06 GMT 1, Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently?
I believe so.... and the unsigned are still showing a decline with signed still holding & gaining. Theres just soooooo much available at the moment, it's actually amazing these prices are holding. We're yet to see the ripples from todays and yesterdays big ticket items, so I'm confident prices will continue to rise (for signed at least) for the foreseeable future, especially when more and more are now landing in to the hands of the wealthy. The demand to 'available' ratio is technically rising all the time if the prints being bought at the moment are for mid-long term investment.
Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently? I believe so.... and the unsigned are still showing a decline with signed still holding & gaining. Theres just soooooo much available at the moment, it's actually amazing these prices are holding. We're yet to see the ripples from todays and yesterdays big ticket items, so I'm confident prices will continue to rise (for signed at least) for the foreseeable future, especially when more and more are now landing in to the hands of the wealthy. The demand to 'available' ratio is technically rising all the time if the prints being bought at the moment are for mid-long term investment. |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by als33 on Mar 24, 2021 20:49:39 GMT 1, Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently?
Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently? I think most of it comes down to the auction house - if this was at one of the top houses the passed lots would have sold and the items with one bid would have had more. |
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sgolby
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by sgolby on Mar 24, 2021 20:49:46 GMT 1, Crash? Barcode just fetched ยฃ100k.
Crash? Barcode just fetched ยฃ100k. not a ton for a signed barcode honestly speaking |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 20:50:35 GMT 1, Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently? I think most of it comes down to the auction house - if this was at one of the top houses the passed lots would have sold and the items with one bid would have had more.
Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently? I think most of it comes down to the auction house - if this was at one of the top houses the passed lots would have sold and the items with one bid would have had more. Sothebys sale last week shows thats not entirely a correct statement. a correction of some sort |
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sgolby
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by sgolby on Mar 24, 2021 20:51:23 GMT 1, Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently? I think most of it comes down to the auction house - if this was at one of the top houses the passed lots would have sold and the items with one bid would have had more.
I don't know. a buyer will find what he wants wherever it is available. i don't think auction house means anything unless of course you are talking ultra raare items of which only the tryptich was.
Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently? I think most of it comes down to the auction house - if this was at one of the top houses the passed lots would have sold and the items with one bid would have had more. I don't know. a buyer will find what he wants wherever it is available. i don't think auction house means anything unless of course you are talking ultra raare items of which only the tryptich was. |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by tab1 on Mar 24, 2021 20:52:54 GMT 1, Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently?
If you have been on the forum a few years, you will know how few banksys used to be listed for sale here and at auctions compared to recent times , the market now has tempted many to sell, buyers are aware of the change of market and more patient and not impulsively purchasing any works that come to Market and they can be more selective also the fact the auction house is not a top tier auction house, different level of bidders and the past history will effect their market slightly
Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently? If you have been on the forum a few years, you will know how few banksys used to be listed for sale here and at auctions compared to recent times , the market now has tempted many to sell, buyers are aware of the change of market and more patient and not impulsively purchasing any works that come to Market and they can be more selective also the fact the auction house is not a top tier auction house, different level of bidders and the past history will effect their market slightly |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by soam24 on Mar 24, 2021 20:56:54 GMT 1, Just spoke to Nick, morons is actually sold, its a glitch in the system
Did you get the price by chance?8.7.1
Just spoke to Nick, morons is actually sold, its a glitch in the system Did you get the price by chance? 8.7.1 |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 20:58:02 GMT 1, 66 hammer
66 hammer
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by irl1 on Mar 24, 2021 21:00:49 GMT 1, How about everyone calls it a draw These idiots condone WAR every single day. I just have fun ๐คฉ
Fixed that for you
How about everyone calls it a draw These idiots condone WAR every single day. I just have fun ๐คฉ These users condone WAR every single day. I just have fun Fixed that for you |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by samo on Mar 24, 2021 21:00:58 GMT 1, So if Morons sold for 66k hammer, that's a better result than Sotheby's last week ๐
So if Morons sold for 66k hammer, that's a better result than Sotheby's last week ๐
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fusion0001
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by fusion0001 on Mar 24, 2021 21:05:14 GMT 1, Just updated these (and Bonham's GWB) to Banksy-Value.com index: overall index +10.27% for March, which means the Tate Ward result has dragged it down 1.5%
Just updated these (and Bonham's GWB) to Banksy-Value.com index: overall index +10.27% for March, which means the Tate Ward result has dragged it down 1.5%
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by sgolby on Mar 24, 2021 21:07:55 GMT 1, Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently? If you have been on the forum a few years, you will know how few banksys used to be listed for sale here and at auctions compared to recent times , the market now has tempted many to sell, buyers are aware of the change of market and more patient and not impulsively purchasing any works that come to Market and they can be more selective also the fact the auction house is not a top tier auction house, different level of bidders and the past history will effect their market slightly
Anyone out there think maybe this is because of the wild amount of banksy which has gone to auction recently? If you have been on the forum a few years, you will know how few banksys used to be listed for sale here and at auctions compared to recent times , the market now has tempted many to sell, buyers are aware of the change of market and more patient and not impulsively purchasing any works that come to Market and they can be more selective also the fact the auction house is not a top tier auction house, different level of bidders and the past history will effect their market slightly I am fully aware of this, In fact this is why I say it is more of a correction than a crash. Honestly speaking it seems as though if buyers play their cards right they can snipe and pickup good pieces at good values from the auction houses. |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by als33 on Mar 24, 2021 21:09:01 GMT 1, I think most of it comes down to the auction house - if this was at one of the top houses the passed lots would have sold and the items with one bid would have had more. Sothebys sale last week shows thats not entirely a correct statement. a correction of some sort
Also an unsigned GWB hammered at Bonhams like 5 minutes ago for $360,000, so who knows. I think the iconic images will continue to rise at a rate higher than the ones that are less so, with the more "average" images staying stable or rising more slowly and with the historical laggards like Grannies or TM catching up to the "average" images in a burst and then settling down again.
I think most of it comes down to the auction house - if this was at one of the top houses the passed lots would have sold and the items with one bid would have had more. Sothebys sale last week shows thats not entirely a correct statement. a correction of some sort I think Sotheby's showed more of a stabilization than a correction - none of those lots went unsold and a fair amount of the ones at TW were passed (I want to say 5 or so but can't find the results on TW's site), and although the estimates at Sotheby's were very low, the majority blew through them by a good amount, while many of TW's lots sold at the low estimate. I understand it's not a total apples-to-apples comparison - I think the upcoming Christie's sale with higher estimates will serve as a better point of comparison on this front. Also an unsigned GWB hammered at Bonhams like 5 minutes ago for $360,000, so who knows. I think the iconic images will continue to rise at a rate higher than the ones that are less so, with the more "average" images staying stable or rising more slowly and with the historical laggards like Grannies or TM catching up to the "average" images in a burst and then settling down again. |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by sgolby on Mar 24, 2021 21:12:14 GMT 1, I don't own anything anymore, life took its toll on my finances, so I always hope for the prices to come down a bit so that I can dream of owning something again!
I don't own anything anymore, life took its toll on my finances, so I always hope for the prices to come down a bit so that I can dream of owning something again!
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 21:12:59 GMT 1, Just updated these (and Bonham's Girl With Balloon) to Banksy-Value.com index: overall index +10.27% for March, which means the Tate Ward result has dragged it down 1.5%
At the end of the day, other than crypto, where else do you get 10% ROI month after month?! The results are still amazing overall.
Just updated these (and Bonham's Girl With Balloon) to Banksy-Value.com index: overall index +10.27% for March, which means the Tate Ward result has dragged it down 1.5% At the end of the day, other than crypto, where else do you get 10% ROI month after month?! The results are still amazing overall. |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by londonfx on Mar 24, 2021 21:17:46 GMT 1, Anyone know when all the sale prices go up online?
Anyone know when all the sale prices go up online?
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by robo on Mar 24, 2021 21:18:00 GMT 1, Just updated these (and Bonham's Girl With Balloon) to Banksy-Value.com index: overall index +10.27% for March, which means the Tate Ward result has dragged it down 1.5%
Just updated these (and Bonham's Girl With Balloon) to Banksy-Value.com index: overall index +10.27% for March, which means the Tate Ward result has dragged it down 1.5% 1.5% is nothing, especially bearing in mind this was a smaller auction house. |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by ubl on Mar 24, 2021 21:18:07 GMT 1, Just updated these (and Bonham's Girl With Balloon) to Banksy-Value.com index: overall index +10.27% for March, which means the Tate Ward result has dragged it down 1.5% At the end of the day, other than crypto, where else do you get 10% ROI month after month?! The results are still amazing overall.
Shorting the US dollar 
Just updated these (and Bonham's Girl With Balloon) to Banksy-Value.com index: overall index +10.27% for March, which means the Tate Ward result has dragged it down 1.5% At the end of the day, other than crypto, where else do you get 10% ROI month after month?! The results are still amazing overall. Shorting the US dollar |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by robo on Mar 24, 2021 21:19:02 GMT 1, 'Grannies' used to get no love at all. How times have changed. Weird.
'Grannies' used to get no love at all. How times have changed. Weird. It's an all time classic (IMHO). |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by theclash on Mar 24, 2021 21:21:51 GMT 1, At the end of the day, other than crypto, where else do you get 10% ROI month after month?! The results are still amazing overall. Shorting the US dollarย
The Medallion fund since 1988 is pretty close. But you have little chance of being allowed to invest in that
At the end of the day, other than crypto, where else do you get 10% ROI month after month?! The results are still amazing overall. Shorting the US dollarย The Medallion fund since 1988 is pretty close. But you have little chance of being allowed to invest in that |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by robo on Mar 24, 2021 21:22:03 GMT 1, The Tate Ward web site says it sold for ยฃ2.5k - is that a mistake?!!
The Tate Ward web site says it sold for ยฃ2.5k - is that a mistake?!! |
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