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APIP
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by APIP on Mar 7, 2021 7:03:50 GMT 1,
This is their statement in terms and conditions - โThe authenticity of the authorship of property listed in the e-catalogue or any other medium is not guaranteed. All property is sold ยซ AS IS ยป without any representations or warranties by usโ - be very wary
This is their statement in terms and conditions - โThe authenticity of the authorship of property listed in the e-catalogue or any other medium is not guaranteed. All property is sold ยซ AS IS ยป without any representations or warranties by usโ - be very wary
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LJCal
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by LJCal on Mar 7, 2021 7:44:14 GMT 1, From what I can see most of those lots look fake, I wouldnโt personally go near that auction house especially given their ts and cs.
From what I can see most of those lots look fake, I wouldnโt personally go near that auction house especially given their ts and cs.
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Mar 7, 2021 8:13:05 GMT 1, This is their statement in terms and conditions - โThe authenticity of the authorship of property listed in the e-catalogue or any other medium is not guaranteed. All property is sold ยซ AS IS ยป without any representations or warranties by usโ - be very wary
Thanks for posting fella ๐
Seems this is the way forward and is increasing which is not good. Many lower auction houses are making a lot of money selling tat and fakes. Last week Lloyds Auction House (Australia) were confronted by Facebook members as they were selling 'original' Banksy street signs and at the time I looked there were bids of $2000. Lots of people told Lloyds to remove them from the sale ASAP.
They had an arrogant response, I can't recall the wording but basically stating that the owner watched Banksy paint them in Sydney 2003, and they were standing by his authentication ๐คฆ. So guys I would be wary of buying anything from Lloyds going forward and again any new members reading this the only guaranteed authenticity is via pest control ๐
This is their statement in terms and conditions - โThe authenticity of the authorship of property listed in the e-catalogue or any other medium is not guaranteed. All property is sold ยซ AS IS ยป without any representations or warranties by usโ - be very wary Thanks for posting fella ๐ Seems this is the way forward and is increasing which is not good. Many lower auction houses are making a lot of money selling tat and fakes. Last week Lloyds Auction House (Australia) were confronted by Facebook members as they were selling 'original' Banksy street signs and at the time I looked there were bids of $2000. Lots of people told Lloyds to remove them from the sale ASAP. They had an arrogant response, I can't recall the wording but basically stating that the owner watched Banksy paint them in Sydney 2003, and they were standing by his authentication ๐คฆ. So guys I would be wary of buying anything from Lloyds going forward and again any new members reading this the only guaranteed authenticity is via pest control ๐
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elisajafa
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by elisajafa on Mar 7, 2021 8:31:16 GMT 1, APIP Thanks, you are so right, reading terms and conditions sometimes can give you the informations you are seeking after !
LJCal thanks for your recommandations ! Can you explain me what are ts and cs ?
Jeezuz Jones Snr It's so revolting that auction houses are not doing their main job (authenticate artworks before offer them) nowadays and just want their fees regardless the authenticity of the artworks... (And that Banksy story )
APIP Thanks, you are so right, reading terms and conditions sometimes can give you the informations you are seeking after ! LJCal thanks for your recommandations ! Can you explain me what are ts and cs ? Jeezuz Jones Snr It's so revolting that auction houses are not doing their main job (authenticate artworks before offer them) nowadays and just want their fees regardless the authenticity of the artworks... (And that Banksy story )
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veetee
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by veetee on Mar 7, 2021 8:40:23 GMT 1, APIP Thanks, you are so right, reading terms and conditions sometimes can give you the informations you are seeking after ! LJCal thanks for your recommandations ! Can you explain me what are ts and cs ? Jeezuz Jones Snr It's so revolting that auction houses are not doing their main job (authenticate artworks before offer them) nowadays and just want their fees regardless the authenticity of the artworks... (And that Banksy story )
Hi ts and cs are an abbreviation of terms and conditions
APIP Thanks, you are so right, reading terms and conditions sometimes can give you the informations you are seeking after ! LJCal thanks for your recommandations ! Can you explain me what are ts and cs ? Jeezuz Jones Snr It's so revolting that auction houses are not doing their main job (authenticate artworks before offer them) nowadays and just want their fees regardless the authenticity of the artworks... (And that Banksy story ) Hi ts and cs are an abbreviation of terms and conditions
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elisajafa
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by elisajafa on Mar 7, 2021 8:42:15 GMT 1, Thanks a lot veetee
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kfroms
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by kfroms on Mar 7, 2021 8:48:21 GMT 1, APIP Thanks, you are so right, reading terms and conditions sometimes can give you the informations you are seeking after ! LJCal thanks for your recommandations ! Can you explain me what are ts and cs ? Jeezuz Jones Snr It's so revolting that auction houses are not doing their main job (authenticate artworks before offer them) nowadays and just want their fees regardless the authenticity of the artworks... (And that Banksy story )
In this case it doesnโt feel like they are not doing their job but more that knowingly selling fakes and saving their asses via the small print in the T&Cs is their business model. That said a little bit of common sense and due diligence should tell every buyer to stay clear of most of the works.
APIP Thanks, you are so right, reading terms and conditions sometimes can give you the informations you are seeking after ! LJCal thanks for your recommandations ! Can you explain me what are ts and cs ? Jeezuz Jones Snr It's so revolting that auction houses are not doing their main job (authenticate artworks before offer them) nowadays and just want their fees regardless the authenticity of the artworks... (And that Banksy story ) In this case it doesnโt feel like they are not doing their job but more that knowingly selling fakes and saving their asses via the small print in the T&Cs is their business model. That said a little bit of common sense and due diligence should tell every buyer to stay clear of most of the works.
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Mar 7, 2021 8:52:05 GMT 1, APIP Thanks, you are so right, reading terms and conditions sometimes can give you the informations you are seeking after ! LJCal thanks for your recommandations ! Can you explain me what are ts and cs ? Jeezuz Jones Snr It's so revolting that auction houses are not doing their main job (authenticate artworks before offer them) nowadays and just want their fees regardless the authenticity of the artworks... (And that Banksy story )
Looks that way mate and seems covid has made things more fluid and accesible, there's a lot of money floating around and people are investing.
Auction houses are going to cash in also, but in saying that it seems the lower ones like Tate Ward and others as mentioned are selling the tat and fakes and not the tier one auction houses.
Makes you think that criminals will be forging more to cash in also? What's going to pop up next on here? Fake stik, invader etc.. so many artists out there now who's prints are pricey?
Lot of us on the forum are clued up but we are a small number of collector's compared to the masses on Instagram etc who are thinking of buying.
APIP Thanks, you are so right, reading terms and conditions sometimes can give you the informations you are seeking after ! LJCal thanks for your recommandations ! Can you explain me what are ts and cs ? Jeezuz Jones Snr It's so revolting that auction houses are not doing their main job (authenticate artworks before offer them) nowadays and just want their fees regardless the authenticity of the artworks... (And that Banksy story ) Looks that way mate and seems covid has made things more fluid and accesible, there's a lot of money floating around and people are investing. Auction houses are going to cash in also, but in saying that it seems the lower ones like Tate Ward and others as mentioned are selling the tat and fakes and not the tier one auction houses. Makes you think that criminals will be forging more to cash in also? What's going to pop up next on here? Fake stik, invader etc.. so many artists out there now who's prints are pricey? Lot of us on the forum are clued up but we are a small number of collector's compared to the masses on Instagram etc who are thinking of buying.
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LJCal
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by LJCal on Mar 7, 2021 9:15:12 GMT 1, APIP Thanks, you are so right, reading terms and conditions sometimes can give you the informations you are seeking after ! LJCal thanks for your recommandations ! Can you explain me what are ts and cs ? Jeezuz Jones Snr It's so revolting that auction houses are not doing their main job (authenticate artworks before offer them) nowadays and just want their fees regardless the authenticity of the artworks... (And that Banksy story ) In this case it doesnโt feel like they are not doing their job but more that knowingly selling fakes and saving their asses via the small print in the T&Cs is their business model. That said a little bit of common sense and due diligence should tell every buyer to stay clear of most of the works.
TBF those terms and conditions would not stand up, if they are advertising items to be by a certain artist or author they have a basic duty of care to ensure their advertising is accurate, their statutory obligations cannot be contracted around. This assumes they unwittingly sold fakes, if they knew the items to be fakes then of course that is fraud, a criminal matter and any contract would therefore be void. Many major auction houses have tried to defend authorship claims behind these types of disclaimers and in most cases have failed. That being said this auction house is no way a legitimate outfit with any substance behind them and the likelihood of ever getting your money back in the event of an authenticity dispute is slim to none.
APIP Thanks, you are so right, reading terms and conditions sometimes can give you the informations you are seeking after ! LJCal thanks for your recommandations ! Can you explain me what are ts and cs ? Jeezuz Jones Snr It's so revolting that auction houses are not doing their main job (authenticate artworks before offer them) nowadays and just want their fees regardless the authenticity of the artworks... (And that Banksy story ) In this case it doesnโt feel like they are not doing their job but more that knowingly selling fakes and saving their asses via the small print in the T&Cs is their business model. That said a little bit of common sense and due diligence should tell every buyer to stay clear of most of the works. TBF those terms and conditions would not stand up, if they are advertising items to be by a certain artist or author they have a basic duty of care to ensure their advertising is accurate, their statutory obligations cannot be contracted around. This assumes they unwittingly sold fakes, if they knew the items to be fakes then of course that is fraud, a criminal matter and any contract would therefore be void. Many major auction houses have tried to defend authorship claims behind these types of disclaimers and in most cases have failed. That being said this auction house is no way a legitimate outfit with any substance behind them and the likelihood of ever getting your money back in the event of an authenticity dispute is slim to none.
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LJCal
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by LJCal on Mar 7, 2021 9:25:58 GMT 1, What I find so deeply frustrating is that this goes on so frequently and brazenly and the police, auction aggregators, service providers and anyone with any power do nothing. It seems to be the same with so much white collar crime. Unless someone is stealing millions or billions the police wonโt even investigate let alone bring charges or convict and anyone else just seems to turn a blind eye (your eBayโs, live auctioneers, internet service providers, banks etc). Various businesses I work with have been victims of fraud and in some cases it has run into hundreds of thousands and the police literally donโt care. I think itโs a major problem with art because there is literally zero regulation or oversight. Itโs the Wild West out there people so be on guard, do your research and donโt fall for greed traps because thereโs very little you can do if you become a victim.
What I find so deeply frustrating is that this goes on so frequently and brazenly and the police, auction aggregators, service providers and anyone with any power do nothing. It seems to be the same with so much white collar crime. Unless someone is stealing millions or billions the police wonโt even investigate let alone bring charges or convict and anyone else just seems to turn a blind eye (your eBayโs, live auctioneers, internet service providers, banks etc). Various businesses I work with have been victims of fraud and in some cases it has run into hundreds of thousands and the police literally donโt care. I think itโs a major problem with art because there is literally zero regulation or oversight. Itโs the Wild West out there people so be on guard, do your research and donโt fall for greed traps because thereโs very little you can do if you become a victim.
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silvermyn
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by silvermyn on Mar 7, 2021 9:57:54 GMT 1, This appears to be a newly formed auction โscamโ house... Apparently with headquarters here in London, but has no physical address, they are using a virtual office with mailbox handling - like a โshellโ. They are not registered on Companies House. Despite being based in London - prices are in Euros. Majority of items are clear fakes Their website speaks for itself... - if you want to end up with photocopies of images please carry on. Stay well clear.
The descriptions for the CYWs have "after" immediately after the title description. It's not very clear at all but the auction house would probably rely on it if there was any dispute.
There is a COA but they have not stated who issued the COA. Unless it is a Pest Control COA it is not worth the paper it is printed on.
If these were genuine Banksy prints then I would be astonished that the auction house failed to provide the necessary clarity in the description, or that the seller has let it proceed with such a poor description. These definitely smell whiffy.
This appears to be a newly formed auction โscamโ house... Apparently with headquarters here in London, but has no physical address, they are using a virtual office with mailbox handling - like a โshellโ. They are not registered on Companies House. Despite being based in London - prices are in Euros. Majority of items are clear fakes Their website speaks for itself... - if you want to end up with photocopies of images please carry on. Stay well clear. The descriptions for the CYWs have "after" immediately after the title description. It's not very clear at all but the auction house would probably rely on it if there was any dispute. There is a COA but they have not stated who issued the COA. Unless it is a Pest Control COA it is not worth the paper it is printed on. If these were genuine Banksy prints then I would be astonished that the auction house failed to provide the necessary clarity in the description, or that the seller has let it proceed with such a poor description. These definitely smell whiffy.
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Javier
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by Javier on Mar 7, 2021 10:12:05 GMT 1, Did anyone look at the โApplauseโ description? They clearly say PC, and it is in 6K with 0 bids. Weird. But a potential problem for them if itโs a fake, as according to the description it would be legit:
Applause, 2006.Screen print in colours, numbered 500, published by Modern Multiples Fine Art Editions,Los Angeles with Pictures on Walls, on wove Arches 88 paper with full margins, Size: 32 3/4 by 48 1/2 in - 83 by 123 cm.Information:Accompanied by a certificate of authenticity from Pest Control Office, London
www.liveauctioneers.com/item/98453488_banksy-gb-1974
Did anyone look at the โApplauseโ description? They clearly say PC, and it is in 6K with 0 bids. Weird. But a potential problem for them if itโs a fake, as according to the description it would be legit: Applause, 2006.Screen print in colours, numbered 500, published by Modern Multiples Fine Art Editions,Los Angeles with Pictures on Walls, on wove Arches 88 paper with full margins, Size: 32 3/4 by 48 1/2 in - 83 by 123 cm.Information:Accompanied by a certificate of authenticity from Pest Control Office, London www.liveauctioneers.com/item/98453488_banksy-gb-1974
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APIP
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by APIP on Mar 7, 2021 10:57:43 GMT 1, In this case it doesnโt feel like they are not doing their job but more that knowingly selling fakes and saving their asses via the small print in the T&Cs is their business model. That said a little bit of common sense and due diligence should tell every buyer to stay clear of most of the works. TBF those terms and conditions would not stand up, if they are advertising items to be by a certain artist or author they have a basic duty of care to ensure their advertising is accurate, their statutory obligations cannot be contracted around. This assumes they unwittingly sold fakes, if they knew the items to be fakes then of course that is fraud, a criminal matter and any contract would therefore be void. Many major auction houses have tried to defend authorship claims behind these types of disclaimers and in most cases have failed. That being said this auction house is no way a legitimate outfit with any substance behind them and the likelihood of ever getting your money back in the event of an authenticity dispute is slim to none.
This is Berkeley Auctionโs address. 207 Regent Street, London W18 3HH - A lot of items in this sale are just plain wrong. Unfortunately they use liveauctioneers.com as a bidding platform - this company do no due diligence on items sold through their company and also take no responsibility of items listed through their site.
In this case it doesnโt feel like they are not doing their job but more that knowingly selling fakes and saving their asses via the small print in the T&Cs is their business model. That said a little bit of common sense and due diligence should tell every buyer to stay clear of most of the works. TBF those terms and conditions would not stand up, if they are advertising items to be by a certain artist or author they have a basic duty of care to ensure their advertising is accurate, their statutory obligations cannot be contracted around. This assumes they unwittingly sold fakes, if they knew the items to be fakes then of course that is fraud, a criminal matter and any contract would therefore be void. Many major auction houses have tried to defend authorship claims behind these types of disclaimers and in most cases have failed. That being said this auction house is no way a legitimate outfit with any substance behind them and the likelihood of ever getting your money back in the event of an authenticity dispute is slim to none. This is Berkeley Auctionโs address. 207 Regent Street, London W18 3HH - A lot of items in this sale are just plain wrong. Unfortunately they use liveauctioneers.com as a bidding platform - this company do no due diligence on items sold through their company and also take no responsibility of items listed through their site.
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irl1
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by irl1 on Mar 7, 2021 12:25:16 GMT 1, TBF those terms and conditions would not stand up, if they are advertising items to be by a certain artist or author they have a basic duty of care to ensure their advertising is accurate, their statutory obligations cannot be contracted around. This assumes they unwittingly sold fakes, if they knew the items to be fakes then of course that is fraud, a criminal matter and any contract would therefore be void. Many major auction houses have tried to defend authorship claims behind these types of disclaimers and in most cases have failed. That being said this auction house is no way a legitimate outfit with any substance behind them and the likelihood of ever getting your money back in the event of an authenticity dispute is slim to none. This is Berkeley Auctionโs address. 207 Regent Street, London W18 3HH - A lot of items in this sale are just plain wrong. Unfortunately they use liveauctioneers.com as a bidding platform - this company do no due diligence on items sold through their company and also take no responsibility of items listed through their site. You could be posting auction houses all day from these platforms, tons of fakes get sold 24 hours a day, all around the world.
Strange as it seems but Sotheby's, Christies and Phillips use Invaluable and liveauctioneers for some of their auctions. There are some very good auctions on there you just need to be careful and 100% stay away from all the estate sales their a stomping ground for fakes.
As for Berkeleyauctions.com I saw their last auction before Christmas, 100% sure scammers
www.berkeleyauction.com/
www.liveauctioneers.com/catalog/186145_selected-pieces-contemporary-and-street-art/
TBF those terms and conditions would not stand up, if they are advertising items to be by a certain artist or author they have a basic duty of care to ensure their advertising is accurate, their statutory obligations cannot be contracted around. This assumes they unwittingly sold fakes, if they knew the items to be fakes then of course that is fraud, a criminal matter and any contract would therefore be void. Many major auction houses have tried to defend authorship claims behind these types of disclaimers and in most cases have failed. That being said this auction house is no way a legitimate outfit with any substance behind them and the likelihood of ever getting your money back in the event of an authenticity dispute is slim to none. This is Berkeley Auctionโs address. 207 Regent Street, London W18 3HH - A lot of items in this sale are just plain wrong. Unfortunately they use liveauctioneers.com as a bidding platform - this company do no due diligence on items sold through their company and also take no responsibility of items listed through their site. You could be posting auction houses all day from these platforms, tons of fakes get sold 24 hours a day, all around the world. Strange as it seems but Sotheby's, Christies and Phillips use Invaluable and liveauctioneers for some of their auctions. There are some very good auctions on there you just need to be careful and 100% stay away from all the estate sales their a stomping ground for fakes. As for Berkeleyauctions.com I saw their last auction before Christmas, 100% sure scammers www.berkeleyauction.com/www.liveauctioneers.com/catalog/186145_selected-pieces-contemporary-and-street-art/
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by rungsp on Mar 7, 2021 19:19:55 GMT 1, The stuff they have is a collection of Holy Grail items. How would a no-name Auction house ever get a selection like that if they were real?
If it seems to good to be true!!!
IT IS.
The stuff they have is a collection of Holy Grail items. How would a no-name Auction house ever get a selection like that if they were real?
If it seems to good to be true!!!
IT IS.
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by Father of Boys on Mar 7, 2021 19:33:58 GMT 1, Speaking of....have any of you seen this on Netflix yet? Saw the headlines back in the day but never knew the whole story...
variety.com/2021/film/reviews/made-you-look-review-barry-avrich-1234913471/
*Edit* If you're going to watch it, don't read the review...lol....will give away a bunch...just realized...sorry for that...but it's worth watching!
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LJCal
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by LJCal on Mar 7, 2021 21:25:05 GMT 1, This is a great watch, in fairness this scheme had a lot more panache than most of the bucket shop auction houses out there.
This is a great watch, in fairness this scheme had a lot more panache than most of the bucket shop auction houses out there.
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LJCal
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by LJCal on Mar 7, 2021 21:28:42 GMT 1, That is fucking outrageous, theyโve literally scammed ยฃ100s of thousands. If anyone on here bought one of these please donโt pay and report them to the Police.
That is fucking outrageous, theyโve literally scammed ยฃ100s of thousands. If anyone on here bought one of these please donโt pay and report them to the Police.
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 21:45:32 GMT 1, Disgusting. At those prices, these are deffo fake as they wouldn't have gone under the radar if they were real.
Disgusting. At those prices, these are deffo fake as they wouldn't have gone under the radar if they were real.
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elisajafa
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by elisajafa on Mar 7, 2021 22:06:36 GMT 1, rungsp LJCal @yorky that's f***** schocking, revolting
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Pattycakes
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by Pattycakes on Mar 7, 2021 22:47:15 GMT 1, Very interesting, the 50s Warhol drawing is real, and it's availble for sale from the Warhol Foundation. This auction is copying images and selling things they do not even have consigned - obviously most of the stuff is totally fake, but the drawing is real, it's just not theirs to sell.
Very interesting, the 50s Warhol drawing is real, and it's availble for sale from the Warhol Foundation. This auction is copying images and selling things they do not even have consigned - obviously most of the stuff is totally fake, but the drawing is real, it's just not theirs to sell.
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irl1
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by Winchester on Jun 8, 2021 18:29:34 GMT 1,
The lack of Banksys trademark combined with the declining lack of faith in pest control COAs (see sotheby fraud) makes everyone think they can make their own certificates within any law. Banksy created a completely unique situation in the art world. all this for a 80 GBP graffiti fine lol
The lack of Banksys trademark combined with the declining lack of faith in pest control COAs (see sotheby fraud) makes everyone think they can make their own certificates within any law. Banksy created a completely unique situation in the art world. all this for a 80 GBP graffiti fine lol
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by Coach on Jun 8, 2021 19:06:45 GMT 1, The lack of Banksys trademark combined with the declining lack of faith in pest control COAs (see sotheby fraud) makes everyone think they can make their own certificates within any law. Banksy created a completely unique situation in the art world. all this for a 80 GBP graffiti fine lol
There is no lack of faith in PC certs, save perhaps by you alone. Itโs fair to express oneโs opinions (ad infinitum in your case) regarding a particular artist or artwork. But making false claims is not fair and proper. What evidence do you have of such lack of faith (other than your own)?
The lack of Banksys trademark combined with the declining lack of faith in pest control COAs (see sotheby fraud) makes everyone think they can make their own certificates within any law. Banksy created a completely unique situation in the art world. all this for a 80 GBP graffiti fine lol There is no lack of faith in PC certs, save perhaps by you alone. Itโs fair to express oneโs opinions (ad infinitum in your case) regarding a particular artist or artwork. But making false claims is not fair and proper. What evidence do you have of such lack of faith (other than your own)?
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hnkpnk
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by hnkpnk on Jun 8, 2021 19:33:15 GMT 1, ... the declining lack of faith in pest control COAs... Luckily it's a declining lack of faith. The opposite and we would all be toast.
... the declining lack of faith in pest control COAs... Luckily it's a declining lack of faith. The opposite and we would all be toast.
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irl1
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Berkeley auction march 7 (Banksy, Haring, Indiana, Warhol, e, by irl1 on Jun 8, 2021 21:38:11 GMT 1, The lack of Banksys trademark combined with the declining lack of faith in pest control COAs (see sotheby fraud) makes everyone think they can make their own certificates within any law. Banksy created a completely unique situation in the art world. all this for a 80 GBP graffiti fine lol Not sure where your going with this but I trust P.C COA's 101%
The lack of Banksys trademark combined with the declining lack of faith in pest control COAs (see sotheby fraud) makes everyone think they can make their own certificates within any law. Banksy created a completely unique situation in the art world. all this for a 80 GBP graffiti fine lol Not sure where your going with this but I trust P.C COA's 101%
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