it's not a disgrace. Those fighting were literally ANTI FACISM. Whatever paper you work for is overpaying you.

The amazing cognitive distortions of modern politics. I want to say that I'm shocked that someone could be so far indoctrinated into extremist ideologies to think that people who are against ANTIFA would ever support fascism, as opposed to abhorring violence and believing in dialogue, but I'm not.

it's literally what the words mean.

You have an issue with the cognitive distortion of dichotomous thinking. It would mean you're pro-fascist, that is, if ANTIFA were actually fighting fascism instead of being proponents of it. Saying you're fighting fascism in ANTIFA is as illogical as saying that you're a true patriot, defending America's institutions and the right to family life in the Proud Boys.

your intellect is clearly lacking or is it past your bed time and you are having trouble reading? the point being you stated your multicultural family, twit, using as an excuse for your foolish comments




You clearly are an annoyance here and an obnoxious attention seeker.
At least this forum keeps strangers like you off the streets harassing innocent people.

As per Bob's post, it is an easy way out to define anything slightly right of centre politics as being fascist.
I am a fascist (and therefore a racist) because I voted for Brexit, and see BLM, as racially divisive.

In the UK, Boris Johnson (and the Tories) are simply classed as fascists by Daddy's Money Marxists, wokeists and Guardian readers.
How is Johnson a fascist? How is he in anyway comparable to Hitler?
Just because he once said years ago, that Muslim women in a burka look like letterboxes.
OK - not ideal - but he's hardly making lampshades out of human skin. So, reign it in.

In the 1980s, when the BBC was the BBC (and not some ultra-PC liberal anti-Brexit propaganda channel), we had a TV comedy called 'The Young Ones'.
In it, a hippy character constantly shouts out 'fascists' at anything he doesn't agree with.

What we have today though isn't quite that: It is a dangerous world where mass hysteria foams at the mouth over a criminal's death and starts the ball rolling for ultra-violence and demands that all white people need to take a long hard look at themselves and walk a thousand miles on their knees in repent for what was the way of the World, 200 years ago.
In 1625, people from where I come from (Cornwall) were taken by Barbary pirates to become slaves. Who gives a shit about that, even if they know about it?

Why do so many celebrities, actors and musicians support BLM, XR and hate Trump?
It's largely because, if they didn't, they wouldn't have anybody to go to see them perform; they would be cancelled. They need to be popular.

There is no freedom of speech anymore. It is group-think, and if you don't agree with the liberal left, your publisher will cancel you, or you will never act again.
The liberal left are happy in their £2m townhouses and their walls of Banksy, while they get the 'great unwashed' to do their bidding for them.
I am fucked if I am going to stand around and watch freedom of speech get eroded.
And hundreds of thousands of ordinary (Non racist/fascist) people in the UK and the US won't either.

But, as per, in perpetuo, there are people on here (and they know who they are) who will just come back at this, with an attempt at a putdown; a copy and paste from Google, and the need to shut me and others down. Carry on. It's free speech. Just don't try and shut me down. You could of course, always try and get justice for George or Kill the Bill in China, and see how far that gets you.

And I thought this was an art forum!

"wokeist"
"cancelled"
"liberal Left"
"free speech"
"actually white people were slaves too"
"try it in China"
"ultra-PC liberal anti-Brexit propaganda channel"

Nearly had bingo there, you just missed "Cultural Marxist" and "feminazi". Thanks for playing, though, I'm sure we're all much more informed after reading that...

I don't approve of your reference to Floyd as a criminal. Was he? Yes, we all know that he was imprisoned for a horiffic act. It's proven and has been widely reported on in the media. But to reduce the life of a man, who was reformed and left his previous life in order to start one anew in a new city, and spent much of his time trying to prevent others from making his mistakes, is grossly reductionist. People can redeem themselves. While his victims may or may not agree with me, I think he did. One of the most vocal and largest groups within the right are the Christian convervatives. Somehow, despite the Evangelical belief that anyone can be reborn the right still doesn't seem to want to embrace him as a fellow man of God. I think that you may view him in a new light if you look into his life.

You can't even define it outside of its historical origins. Many texts have been written on it.

Both parties have done nothing but become more extreme and hate-filled towards each other since the Cold War ended. They no longer have a common enemy, so all they do is spit vitriol at each other while the country suffers.

I haven't read the thread completly as it does not concern my country and debates on internet are often sterile.

But I like how this thread illustrates the way that some of urban art lovers follow the recognition of urban art as a major commercial art, and may become more sensible to violence from protester than state violence.

Whereas some other remain committed to the founding ideas of the street art, although they are knowingly collecting over priced piece of paper, of cardboard, etc.

This quite caricatural but an exquisite double contradiction

How has your Cornish ancestors being taken as slaves affected you? Have you experienced systemic racism, been denied job opportunities or been called racist names for walking down the street, been stopped and searched just because of the colour of your skin. I don't think so a classic example of whataboutism.

Another wild idea of the left and their hero Herbert Marcuse: that words are violence so violence used against your enemy isn't violence, it's self-defense. Again, I'd say I'm shocked, but I'm not, because I've been hearing this insanity for years.

Thanks to my liberal education I've read all the stuff left-wing terrorists love: Foucault; Dworkin; Derrida; Marcuse; Horkheimer; Said; etc. You name it, I've read it and then vomited as a result. None of them drove me to advocate for violence instead of civil discourse.

What do you call people who harass, stalk, abuse and use violence to stifle free-speech to promote their ideology? There's a word for it...