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Jose Parla • The Founders, by cARTman on Oct 1, 2021 20:12:40 GMT 1, I can guarantee they will be flipped after the first ones are send to customers.
Same with the timed Hirst piece from some time ago.
I can guarantee they will be flipped after the first ones are send to customers. Same with the timed Hirst piece from some time ago. |
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Jokin Jester on Oct 1, 2021 20:13:25 GMT 1, There are a lot of silly people around aren't there!?
There are some People On the Fence.
There are often New Fans
There is a flood of email and social media noise hindering discoverability.
There are a lot of silly people around aren't there!? There are a lot of Busy people. There are some People On the Fence. There are often New Fans There is a flood of email and social media noise hindering discoverability. |
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by cARTman on Oct 1, 2021 20:42:09 GMT 1, Btw got order 122xx!
Btw got order 122xx!
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Acme Thunderer on Oct 1, 2021 21:00:40 GMT 1, Sales slowing down now so will be somewhere around 1,000 in the run.
At £400k+ sales in 24 hours we can certainly expect more timed releases from Avant Arte in the future.
Sales slowing down now so will be somewhere around 1,000 in the run. At £400k+ sales in 24 hours we can certainly expect more timed releases from Avant Arte in the future. |
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Oct 1, 2021 21:33:43 GMT 1, Sales slowing down now so will be somewhere around 1,000 in the run. At £400k+ sales in 24 hours we can certainly expect more timed releases from Avant Arte in the future.
Indeed it's big bucks. Seems the way to go now just print off from a machine on paper or aluminium etc. So easy to make big money. Just insert the medium and press play.
I think we'll see this becoming popular and other print houses doing this. Thousands of more prints on eBay 👍
Sales slowing down now so will be somewhere around 1,000 in the run. At £400k+ sales in 24 hours we can certainly expect more timed releases from Avant Arte in the future. Indeed it's big bucks. Seems the way to go now just print off from a machine on paper or aluminium etc. So easy to make big money. Just insert the medium and press play. I think we'll see this becoming popular and other print houses doing this. Thousands of more prints on eBay 👍 |
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by m23tps on Oct 1, 2021 21:52:53 GMT 1, I don't think that order number means 122xx just for Parla, right? Surely not!
I would think that means the 122XXth order number ever at AA.
Do we know ball park the last number order of the prints/sculptures released before this Parla one? 12299 * £400, would equal £4.9m !!! Which would be nuttso just for this Parla release.
I'm guessing the order number would be something like 500, maybe as high as 1000? I have bought one - certainly interested in the order number, but mine is going to be framed and hung so the resale value doesn't bother me so much, more just intrigues me 
I don't think that order number means 122xx just for Parla, right? Surely not! I would think that means the 122XXth order number ever at AA. Do we know ball park the last number order of the prints/sculptures released before this Parla one? 12299 * £400, would equal £4.9m !!! Which would be nuttso just for this Parla release. I'm guessing the order number would be something like 500, maybe as high as 1000? I have bought one - certainly interested in the order number, but mine is going to be framed and hung so the resale value doesn't bother me so much, more just intrigues me |
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Viennese on Oct 1, 2021 22:03:00 GMT 1, We calculated from the earlierst order number posted here right after release of course assuming that the vast majority of orders within the 24h time window will go to the Parla print.
We calculated from the earlierst order number posted here right after release of course assuming that the vast majority of orders within the 24h time window will go to the Parla print.
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Cardiff on Oct 1, 2021 22:30:22 GMT 1, Good for Jose and good for the folks that want his wonderful work on the wall...win, win!!!
Good for Jose and good for the folks that want his wonderful work on the wall...win, win!!!
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by mikeT on Oct 2, 2021 5:00:54 GMT 1, Great to see a thread where folks are happy, positive and actually discussing the artwork.
Mine's #124XX folks. Happy to own a Parla finally.
Great to see a thread where folks are happy, positive and actually discussing the artwork.
Mine's #124XX folks. Happy to own a Parla finally.
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Lroy on Oct 2, 2021 8:00:47 GMT 1, There are a lot of silly people around aren't there!? There are a lot of Busy people. There are some People On the Fence. There are often New Fans There is a flood of email and social media noise hindering discoverability. Funny how this conversation goes...
First, it was to get a Parla at home at this price ( a member here sniped me about my complain for the price ( hey ! its 1/3 of my salary, we are not all dentists nor anuitants ) , kinda ," it's a gift ! I will have a Parla up my sofa ! "
Now it's all about flipping ( "will they go for a good price or not ?" ) , what I said since the beginning : a lot of buyers bought it to flip it.
Anyway, I like it as a lot too as all are saying to like it ( who likes really this print ? Even this lP cover has been criticized ) , but as I said, Parla or not, my wallet is not big enough and I won't sell a Dolk nor Stik, or whatever for a contemporary artist as Hirst, etc... - I like graffiti and street-art above all.
Be lucky guys, you will flip it of course maybe 2 x 3 the price or more, or less, etc...
it's not a Banksy anyway ! I m just doubtful about the interest of new fans, social media ( ?!) , busy people - a collector is like a sniper he will get it whatever is happening ( he has secretaries for that, and don't forget, galleries already bought a lot, to keep it for their customers, lists, to put it on Catawiki or Ebay etc ) ...
On Ebay, actually we have K of artworks overestimated, with indecent " buy it now prices " ( crazy flippers, or speculators ) , that are staying at the top of the list, for years, since years. People has other concerns now, are busy too with the crisis, and are thinking about other leisures or investments, and don't forget taxes etc.. ) ...
Art " market " is a bit weak now, dose not move a lot ( apart for little tats ) , and has a cold ( can we call it a flue ? yes Covid restrictions maybe, crisis, Taxes ) ... Artchooo.. 🤧🤧🤧 !
There are a lot of silly people around aren't there!? There are a lot of Busy people. There are some People On the Fence. There are often New Fans There is a flood of email and social media noise hindering discoverability. Funny how this conversation goes...
First, it was to get a Parla at home at this price ( a member here sniped me about my complain for the price ( hey ! its 1/3 of my salary, we are not all dentists nor anuitants ) , kinda ," it's a gift ! I will have a Parla up my sofa ! "
Now it's all about flipping ( "will they go for a good price or not ?" ) , what I said since the beginning : a lot of buyers bought it to flip it.
Anyway, I like it as a lot too as all are saying to like it ( who likes really this print ? Even this lP cover has been criticized ) , but as I said, Parla or not, my wallet is not big enough and I won't sell a Dolk nor Stik, or whatever for a contemporary artist as Hirst, etc... - I like graffiti and street-art above all.
Be lucky guys, you will flip it of course maybe 2 x 3 the price or more, or less, etc...
it's not a Banksy anyway ! I m just doubtful about the interest of new fans, social media ( ?!) , busy people - a collector is like a sniper he will get it whatever is happening ( he has secretaries for that, and don't forget, galleries already bought a lot, to keep it for their customers, lists, to put it on Catawiki or Ebay etc ) ...
On Ebay, actually we have K of artworks overestimated, with indecent " buy it now prices " ( crazy flippers, or speculators ) , that are staying at the top of the list, for years, since years. People has other concerns now, are busy too with the crisis, and are thinking about other leisures or investments, and don't forget taxes etc.. ) ...
Art " market " is a bit weak now, dose not move a lot ( apart for little tats ) , and has a cold ( can we call it a flue ? yes Covid restrictions maybe, crisis, Taxes ) ... Artchooo.. 🤧🤧🤧 !
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Lroy on Oct 2, 2021 8:22:06 GMT 1, Hey, it' s soon finished... I did not saw the size, it's a big one hey, mind the shipping and when you 'll frame it or not - don't leave it in a tube !
Hey, it' s soon finished... I did not saw the size, it's a big one hey, mind the shipping and when you 'll frame it or not - don't leave it in a tube !
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Acme Thunderer on Oct 2, 2021 8:30:38 GMT 1, Hey, it' s soon finished... I did not saw the size, it's a big one hey, mind the shipping and when you 'll frame it or not - don't leave it in a tube !
Hey, it' s soon finished... I did not saw the size, it's a big one hey, mind the shipping and when you 'll frame it or not - don't leave it in a tube ! Comes delivered flat and free shipping worldwide so no worries there. |
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Lroy on Oct 2, 2021 8:51:47 GMT 1, Hey, it' s soon finished... I did not saw the size, it's a big one hey, mind the shipping and when you 'll frame it or not - don't leave it in a tube ! Comes delivered flat and free shipping worldwide so no worries there. 9 minutes more, but I saw my bank account, I can't. Happy and lucky members ! have a nice one dudes!
Hey, it' s soon finished... I did not saw the size, it's a big one hey, mind the shipping and when you 'll frame it or not - don't leave it in a tube ! Comes delivered flat and free shipping worldwide so no worries there. 9 minutes more, but I saw my bank account, I can't. Happy and lucky members ! have a nice one dudes!
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Lroy on Oct 2, 2021 8:53:14 GMT 1, Ty Acme Thunderer !
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Masong on Oct 2, 2021 8:55:06 GMT 1, I reckon it’ll be about 1100 sold.
I reckon it’ll be about 1100 sold.
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by mitboi on Oct 2, 2021 8:59:57 GMT 1, 125xx with 1min left
125xx with 1min left
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by artlife11 on Oct 2, 2021 9:02:26 GMT 1,
2500 or 2100. By my reconninng
It’s no longer an open edition
Congrats to all who copped
2500 or 2100. By my reconninng It’s no longer an open edition Congrats to all who copped |
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Lroy on Oct 2, 2021 9:03:17 GMT 1, BOINNGGG!! GONNGG !
BOINNGGG!! GONNGG !
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Lroy on Oct 2, 2021 9:04:08 GMT 1, 2500 or 2100. By my reconninng It’s no longer an open edition Congrats to all who copped
2500 or 2100. By my reconninng It’s no longer an open edition Congrats to all who copped and no congrats for others ( french humor a bit bitter ) |
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by maxamaxa2 on Oct 2, 2021 9:41:55 GMT 1, Biggest question is how they would track it, guess the best way would be to upload the coa as an nft. And write on the backside that the nft must follow to be considered authentic, would make it possible to burn traded nft’s (or perhaps even lock for trading during 2 years?). Think it’s a reasonable agreement when selling a timed print at this price, it’s a fantastic and generous opportunity for everybody that want a parla on their wall and should not be exploited by flippers. You can't flip a timed edition because everyone has a chance to buy direct. Flipping only really works when an edition is limited which in this case it isn't....or am I being naive?
Thing is that not everybody scan art market for releases daily, now it’s not unlimited any more. Ppl even sell kusama pumpkins on auction at profit while they’re still available from source so it’s a strange world.
Anyway, I’m extremely happy to have coped one and are very excited to get it on the wall. It’s a bit crazy but I like the composition and it sure is a classic parla piece. Would only be topped if they would make a classic watercolor open ed print with the same size and a connected style but portrait mode that could hang beside it
Will be interesting to find a good framing for it.
Biggest question is how they would track it, guess the best way would be to upload the coa as an nft. And write on the backside that the nft must follow to be considered authentic, would make it possible to burn traded nft’s (or perhaps even lock for trading during 2 years?). Think it’s a reasonable agreement when selling a timed print at this price, it’s a fantastic and generous opportunity for everybody that want a parla on their wall and should not be exploited by flippers. You can't flip a timed edition because everyone has a chance to buy direct. Flipping only really works when an edition is limited which in this case it isn't....or am I being naive? Thing is that not everybody scan art market for releases daily, now it’s not unlimited any more. Ppl even sell kusama pumpkins on auction at profit while they’re still available from source so it’s a strange world. Anyway, I’m extremely happy to have coped one and are very excited to get it on the wall. It’s a bit crazy but I like the composition and it sure is a classic parla piece. Would only be topped if they would make a classic watercolor open ed print with the same size and a connected style but portrait mode that could hang beside it Will be interesting to find a good framing for it. |
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by sidtrix on Oct 2, 2021 9:49:56 GMT 1, Give or take, started around 14xx, ended at 25xx…. I reckon the edition size is around 1000 to 1100 max
€500k, a very good result for 24hrs
Give or take, started around 14xx, ended at 25xx…. I reckon the edition size is around 1000 to 1100 max €500k, a very good result for 24hrs |
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by willamsa on Oct 2, 2021 10:39:54 GMT 1, Congratulations all those who purchased - Its a great looking print, will have a broad appeal and I would guess many will make the wall rather then stored away.
How long before the posts from people wishing they had pulled the trigger, asking if anyone has ordered an extra one they don’t want ?
Congratulations all those who purchased - Its a great looking print, will have a broad appeal and I would guess many will make the wall rather then stored away.
How long before the posts from people wishing they had pulled the trigger, asking if anyone has ordered an extra one they don’t want ?
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Jimini Cricket on Oct 2, 2021 10:43:06 GMT 1, Give or take, started around 14xx, ended at 25xx…. I reckon the edition size is around 1000 to 1100 max €500k, a very good result for 24hrs
Christian and Curtis gonna go out and buy matching Porches now.
Give or take, started around 14xx, ended at 25xx…. I reckon the edition size is around 1000 to 1100 max €500k, a very good result for 24hrs Christian and Curtis gonna go out and buy matching Porches now. |
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Lroy on Oct 2, 2021 10:45:28 GMT 1, Congratulations all those who purchased - Its a great looking print, will have a broad appeal and I would guess many will make the wall rather then stored away. How long before the posts from people wishing they had pulled the trigger, asking if anyone has ordered an extra one they don’t want ? " How long before the posts from people wishing they had pulled the trigger, asking if anyone has ordered an extra one they don’t want ? "
I, in some days, months, years, I don't know...
When I will sell or trade another one..
For a great print that i Have won, for 500 quid, I have had to sell then the Green Paris Invader kit that I cherished then ( not for so much, 2,5 k + a WOH box ) ... SO.... Think to me one of these days  Congratulations all those who purchased - Its a great looking print, will have a broad appeal and I would guess many will make the wall rather then stored away. How long before the posts from people wishing they had pulled the trigger, asking if anyone has ordered an extra one they don’t want ? " How long before the posts from people wishing they had pulled the trigger, asking if anyone has ordered an extra one they don’t want ? "
I, in some days, months, years, I don't know...
When I will sell or trade another one..
For a great print that i Have won, for 500 quid, I have had to sell then the Green Paris Invader kit that I cherished then ( not for so much, 2,5 k + a WOH box ) ... SO.... Think to me one of these days |
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by willamsa on Oct 2, 2021 10:50:11 GMT 1, Christian, do you have the official count to share with us ?
Christian, do you have the official count to share with us ?
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Dive Jedi on Oct 2, 2021 12:52:20 GMT 1, Also confused about no resale agreement...why would you have that on a timed release given anyone can buy? I think it's done to put off flippers. Yes, anyone can buy (including flippers) but if they can't offload it 24 hours later then they are probably not going to bother.
So only for the long term flippers
Also confused about no resale agreement...why would you have that on a timed release given anyone can buy? I think it's done to put off flippers. Yes, anyone can buy (including flippers) but if they can't offload it 24 hours later then they are probably not going to bother. COA's will be sent 6 months later as well. So only for the long term flippers |
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by Lroy on Oct 2, 2021 13:09:49 GMT 1, Also confused about no resale agreement...why would you have that on a timed release given anyone can buy? I think it's done to put off flippers. Yes, anyone can buy (including flippers) but if they can't offload it 24 hours later then they are probably not going to bother. In fact, this thread ( apart from lovers and fans of Parlà ) will become " to flip or not to flip " ? ...
Before it was " good to flip " or " great artwork on the wall " - with a small idea hiding behind - see first question Also confused about no resale agreement...why would you have that on a timed release given anyone can buy? I think it's done to put off flippers. Yes, anyone can buy (including flippers) but if they can't offload it 24 hours later then they are probably not going to bother. In fact, this thread ( apart from lovers and fans of Parlà ) will become " to flip or not to flip " ? ...
Before it was " good to flip " or " great artwork on the wall " - with a small idea hiding behind - see first question |
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by The Rat King on Oct 2, 2021 13:23:29 GMT 1, Looks a nice edition and seems like everyone gains
Someone is going to be in gainful employment making the bespoke wooden boxes
Looks a nice edition and seems like everyone gains
Someone is going to be in gainful employment making the bespoke wooden boxes
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Jose Parla • The Founders, by artlife11 on Oct 2, 2021 13:24:31 GMT 1, I think it's done to put off flippers. Yes, anyone can buy (including flippers) but if they can't offload it 24 hours later then they are probably not going to bother. COA's will be sent 6 months later as well. So only for the long term flippers
Prints will come accompanied by COA according to Avant Art release email yesterday
I think it's done to put off flippers. Yes, anyone can buy (including flippers) but if they can't offload it 24 hours later then they are probably not going to bother. COA's will be sent 6 months later as well. So only for the long term flippers Prints will come accompanied by COA according to Avant Art release email yesterday |
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