keeb25
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Invader still in plastic, by keeb25 on Sept 24, 2021 13:33:20 GMT 1, Hi All,
I am a new collector of an invader! Finally! Very late to the show..but non the less, extremely happy!
I have a question which I believe has popped up a few times on this forum, however I would love to get your opinions in 2021. The invader I got has static/packaging on the outside, with a seal at the back which I am unsure about opening because I dont want to de-value the product in the long term. I am struggling with the framing at the moment because of this. I have looked at an acrylic box/standing for the piece. Personally I would like to rip it open and frame it as it should be...but obviously I dont want to de-value something I spent a lot of money on.
Let me know your thoughts! 
Keeb
Hi All, I am a new collector of an invader! Finally! Very late to the show..but non the less, extremely happy! I have a question which I believe has popped up a few times on this forum, however I would love to get your opinions in 2021. The invader I got has static/packaging on the outside, with a seal at the back which I am unsure about opening because I dont want to de-value the product in the long term. I am struggling with the framing at the moment because of this. I have looked at an acrylic box/standing for the piece. Personally I would like to rip it open and frame it as it should be...but obviously I dont want to de-value something I spent a lot of money on. Let me know your thoughts! Keeb |
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Invader still in plastic, by u%hdjfka c on Sept 24, 2021 13:58:58 GMT 1, Hi All, I am a new collector of an invader! Finally! Very late to the show..but non the less, extremely happy! I have a question which I believe has popped up a few times on this forum, however I would love to get your opinions in 2021. The invader I got has static/packaging on the outside, with a seal at the back which I am unsure about opening because I dont want to de-value the product in the long term. I am struggling with the framing at the moment because of this. I have looked at an acrylic box/standing for the piece. Personally I would like to rip it open and frame it as it should be...but obviously I dont want to de-value something I spent a lot of money on. Let me know your thoughts! ย Keebย
Open it. Probably a fake anyway.
Hi All, I am a new collector of an invader! Finally! Very late to the show..but non the less, extremely happy! I have a question which I believe has popped up a few times on this forum, however I would love to get your opinions in 2021. The invader I got has static/packaging on the outside, with a seal at the back which I am unsure about opening because I dont want to de-value the product in the long term. I am struggling with the framing at the moment because of this. I have looked at an acrylic box/standing for the piece. Personally I would like to rip it open and frame it as it should be...but obviously I dont want to de-value something I spent a lot of money on. Let me know your thoughts! ย Keebย Open it. Probably a fake anyway. |
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keeb25
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Invader still in plastic, by keeb25 on Sept 24, 2021 14:11:27 GMT 1, Its numbered and signed. From a reputable auction house...
Its numbered and signed. From a reputable auction house...
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Invader still in plastic, by Londown 01 on Sept 24, 2021 14:22:04 GMT 1, Hi All, I am a new collector of an invader! Finally! Very late to the show..but non the less, extremely happy! I have a question which I believe has popped up a few times on this forum, however I would love to get your opinions in 2021. The invader I got has static/packaging on the outside, with a seal at the back which I am unsure about opening because I dont want to de-value the product in the long term. I am struggling with the framing at the moment because of this. I have looked at an acrylic box/standing for the piece. Personally I would like to rip it open and frame it as it should be...but obviously I dont want to de-value something I spent a lot of money on. Let me know your thoughts! Keeb Open it. Probably a fake anyway.
Hi All, I am a new collector of an invader! Finally! Very late to the show..but non the less, extremely happy! I have a question which I believe has popped up a few times on this forum, however I would love to get your opinions in 2021. The invader I got has static/packaging on the outside, with a seal at the back which I am unsure about opening because I dont want to de-value the product in the long term. I am struggling with the framing at the moment because of this. I have looked at an acrylic box/standing for the piece. Personally I would like to rip it open and frame it as it should be...but obviously I dont want to de-value something I spent a lot of money on. Let me know your thoughts! Keeb Open it. Probably a fake anyway. so according to that logic (if you can call it that): never buy an invasion kit? |
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Invader still in plastic, by Monkey on Sept 24, 2021 14:26:30 GMT 1, Hey there
Congrats for acquiring a kit and welcome to the club
From what I understand, if you bought it from an auction house, it probably has cost you a fair amount of money and that shows that you have a lot of dedication to the artist work
Considering this, the least you can do is open it and enjoy your new and highly desired piece of art
Frame it or box it (depending which one it is) and enjoy it every single day !!!
I opened all of mines and they are all boxed and I'm quite happy with that
Regarding value: yes opening it will decrease its immediate value but Invader prices are increasing every months. In the long term, you'd probably reach the value you paid for anyway
Record yourself while opening it, make sure not to tear the signed / numbered instructions when opening it, keep the full antistatic bag along (put it in the bow behind the kit). That will give some guarantee if you decide to sell it one day
Hey there
Congrats for acquiring a kit and welcome to the club
From what I understand, if you bought it from an auction house, it probably has cost you a fair amount of money and that shows that you have a lot of dedication to the artist work
Considering this, the least you can do is open it and enjoy your new and highly desired piece of art
Frame it or box it (depending which one it is) and enjoy it every single day !!!
I opened all of mines and they are all boxed and I'm quite happy with that
Regarding value: yes opening it will decrease its immediate value but Invader prices are increasing every months. In the long term, you'd probably reach the value you paid for anyway
Record yourself while opening it, make sure not to tear the signed / numbered instructions when opening it, keep the full antistatic bag along (put it in the bow behind the kit). That will give some guarantee if you decide to sell it one day
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Invader still in plastic, by dmm8878 on Sept 24, 2021 14:28:09 GMT 1, This is the dilemma with Invasion kits. I hope you find peace with your decision.
This is the dilemma with Invasion kits. I hope you find peace with your decision.
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keeb25
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Invader still in plastic, by keeb25 on Sept 24, 2021 14:33:06 GMT 1, Absolutely, I have full dedication to him! I think his work is absolutely fantastic, shame I missed the boat a while back..but as you say the prices are increasing every month and I couldnt wait any longer.
Thanks for your feedback, thats really helpful. Especially as a newbie to the community.
Cheers,
Keeb
Absolutely, I have full dedication to him! I think his work is absolutely fantastic, shame I missed the boat a while back..but as you say the prices are increasing every month and I couldnt wait any longer.
Thanks for your feedback, thats really helpful. Especially as a newbie to the community.
Cheers,
Keeb
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Invader still in plastic, by Arty Farty 15 on Sept 24, 2021 14:39:54 GMT 1, Love it when people open these, as it means my sealed ones become that little bit more scarce.
Even for the most recent LA kit, a lot of the ones Iโve seen for sale have been opened and framed. If you were going to paper hands it so soon why on earth would you have opened it?
Love it when people open these, as it means my sealed ones become that little bit more scarce.
Even for the most recent LA kit, a lot of the ones Iโve seen for sale have been opened and framed. If you were going to paper hands it so soon why on earth would you have opened it?
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longshanks
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Invader still in plastic, by longshanks on Sept 24, 2021 14:46:23 GMT 1, open the kit.
frame it.
enjoy it.
sell it when you're ready, for a tidy profit.
open the kit.
frame it.
enjoy it.
sell it when you're ready, for a tidy profit.
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longshanks
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Invader still in plastic, by longshanks on Sept 24, 2021 14:48:48 GMT 1, Love it when people open these, as it means my sealed ones become that little bit more scarce. Even for the most recent LA kit, a lot of the ones Iโve seen for sale have been opened and framed. If you were going to paper hands it so soon why on earth would you have opened it? maybe they wanted to fully enjoy the art they'd purchased.
Love it when people open these, as it means my sealed ones become that little bit more scarce. Even for the most recent LA kit, a lot of the ones Iโve seen for sale have been opened and framed. If you were going to paper hands it so soon why on earth would you have opened it? maybe they wanted to fully enjoy the art they'd purchased.
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Invader still in plastic, by Lroy on Sept 24, 2021 14:50:27 GMT 1, Hi All, I am a new collector of an invader! Finally! Very late to the show..but non the less, extremely happy! I have a question which I believe has popped up a few times on this forum, however I would love to get your opinions in 2021. The invader I got has static/packaging on the outside, with a seal at the back which I am unsure about opening because I dont want to de-value the product in the long term. I am struggling with the framing at the moment because of this. I have looked at an acrylic box/standing for the piece. Personally I would like to rip it open and frame it as it should be...but obviously I dont want to de-value something I spent a lot of money on. Let me know your thoughts! Keeb
Hi All, I am a new collector of an invader! Finally! Very late to the show..but non the less, extremely happy! I have a question which I believe has popped up a few times on this forum, however I would love to get your opinions in 2021. The invader I got has static/packaging on the outside, with a seal at the back which I am unsure about opening because I dont want to de-value the product in the long term. I am struggling with the framing at the moment because of this. I have looked at an acrylic box/standing for the piece. Personally I would like to rip it open and frame it as it should be...but obviously I dont want to de-value something I spent a lot of money on. Let me know your thoughts! Keeb Do like me : make a photocopy and frame if on the wall. Keep the original in your safe ( if you are rich ) or in a box if you are poor. |
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Invader still in plastic, by paps on Sept 24, 2021 14:51:48 GMT 1, Hi all
Another option is to buy tiles to frame and put the signed one on the back.
You can keep the original one sealed and enjoy the artwork everyday.
Hi all
Another option is to buy tiles to frame and put the signed one on the back.
You can keep the original one sealed and enjoy the artwork everyday.
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Monkey
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Invader still in plastic, by Monkey on Sept 24, 2021 15:11:27 GMT 1, Hi all Another option is to buy tiles to frame and put the signed one on the back. You can keep the original one sealed and enjoy the artwork everyday.
Love that idea!! Not feasible with all kits but worth a try
Hi all Another option is to buy tiles to frame and put the signed one on the back. You can keep the original one sealed and enjoy the artwork everyday. Love that idea!! Not feasible with all kits but worth a try |
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Invader still in plastic, by iamzero on Sept 24, 2021 15:45:01 GMT 1, If it helps I opened a Star Wars figure recently that had been in it original packaging since 1984โฆ let it breathe.
If it helps I opened a Star Wars figure recently that had been in it original packaging since 1984โฆ let it breathe.
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longshanks
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Invader still in plastic, by longshanks on Sept 24, 2021 15:45:53 GMT 1, Hi all Another option is to buy tiles to frame and put the signed one on the back. You can keep the original one sealed and enjoy the artwork everyday.
Hi all Another option is to buy tiles to frame and put the signed one on the back. You can keep the original one sealed and enjoy the artwork everyday. would you print out copies of prints to frame, and keep original ones in a folder? |
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Invader still in plastic, by Lroy on Sept 24, 2021 20:01:51 GMT 1, This question taht you are asking is a bit naรฏve or weird ( or you don't care about your kit ) , as a kit opened looses around 20/30 % ot its value : packaging and signature is a part of the " deal " ...
well, now you do what you want, but this question is already asked every 3 months on here ahahah
This question taht you are asking is a bit naรฏve or weird ( or you don't care about your kit ) , as a kit opened looses around 20/30 % ot its value : packaging and signature is a part of the " deal " ...
well, now you do what you want, but this question is already asked every 3 months on here ahahah
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longshanks
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Invader still in plastic, by longshanks on Sept 24, 2021 21:12:47 GMT 1, This question taht you are asking is a bit naรฏve or weird ( or you don't care about your kit ) , as a kit opened looses around 20/30 % ot its value : packaging and signature is a part of the " deal " ... well, now you do what you want, but this question is already asked every 3 months on here ahahah
But a nicely framed kit at auction will perform just as well. IMO
This question taht you are asking is a bit naรฏve or weird ( or you don't care about your kit ) , as a kit opened looses around 20/30 % ot its value : packaging and signature is a part of the " deal " ... well, now you do what you want, but this question is already asked every 3 months on here ahahah Itโs cool, but I would disagree with that statement personally. Completely agree the packaging, instructions, signature (if signed edition) are an important aspect of the art (Iโve been framing mine on the reverse). But a nicely framed kit at auction will perform just as well. IMO |
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Invader still in plastic, by Lroy on Sept 24, 2021 21:52:48 GMT 1, This question taht you are asking is a bit naรฏve or weird ( or you don't care about your kit ) , as a kit opened looses around 20/30 % ot its value : packaging and signature is a part of the " deal " ... well, now you do what you want, but this question is already asked every 3 months on here ahahah Itโs cool, but I would disagree with that statement personally. Completely agree the packaging, instructions, signature (if signed edition) are an important aspect of the art (Iโve been framing mine on the reverse).ย But a nicely framed kit at auction will perform just as well. IMOย
Yes another point of view :-)
I just donโt understand why Invader cares so much about the packaging soโฆ
But a nice one on the wall could be great ! :-)
This question taht you are asking is a bit naรฏve or weird ( or you don't care about your kit ) , as a kit opened looses around 20/30 % ot its value : packaging and signature is a part of the " deal " ... well, now you do what you want, but this question is already asked every 3 months on here ahahah Itโs cool, but I would disagree with that statement personally. Completely agree the packaging, instructions, signature (if signed edition) are an important aspect of the art (Iโve been framing mine on the reverse).ย But a nicely framed kit at auction will perform just as well. IMOย Yes another point of view :-) I just donโt understand why Invader cares so much about the packaging soโฆ But a nice one on the wall could be great ! :-) |
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Invader still in plastic, by nobokov on Sept 24, 2021 21:59:29 GMT 1,
I don't know about y'all, but I don't open anything and my walls look fantastic!
I don't know about y'all, but I don't open anything and my walls look fantastic! |
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Invader still in plastic, by Alban Google on Sept 24, 2021 22:18:05 GMT 1, Iโve been told that Invader is working on offering authenticity certificates, which would mean that IK opened or not opened would be the same value (as long as the opened ones are properly framed).
Open your Ik, frame it, you will appreciate it so much more
Iโve been told that Invader is working on offering authenticity certificates, which would mean that IK opened or not opened would be the same value (as long as the opened ones are properly framed).
Open your Ik, frame it, you will appreciate it so much more
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Invader still in plastic, by Lroy on Sept 24, 2021 22:32:07 GMT 1, Iโve been told that Invader is working on offering authenticity certificates, which would mean that IK opened or not opened would be the same value (as long as the opened ones are properly framed). Open your Ik, frame it, you will appreciate it so much more what are your sources ?
Web ?
It won't be never the same, with Invader COA or not What is the real problem with an unopened Invader ?! We have so many things on the walls. What about prints still in tubes under the bed ?
Iโve been told that Invader is working on offering authenticity certificates, which would mean that IK opened or not opened would be the same value (as long as the opened ones are properly framed). Open your Ik, frame it, you will appreciate it so much more what are your sources ?
Web ?
It won't be never the same, with Invader COA or not What is the real problem with an unopened Invader ?! We have so many things on the walls. What about prints still in tubes under the bed ?
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Invader still in plastic, by yojoe007 on Sept 25, 2021 0:02:57 GMT 1, If it helps I opened a Star Wars figure recently that had been in it original packaging since 1984โฆ let it breathe.
Alright, you got me... which one? Assuming ROTJ or bad condition POTF/tri logo card
If it helps I opened a Star Wars figure recently that had been in it original packaging since 1984โฆ let it breathe. Alright, you got me... which one? Assuming ROTJ or bad condition POTF/tri logo card |
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iamzero
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Invader still in plastic, by iamzero on Sept 25, 2021 6:56:14 GMT 1, Iโve opened a couple lately with yellowing bubbles. The last one was a Rancor Keeper.
Iโve opened a couple lately with yellowing bubbles. The last one was a Rancor Keeper.
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paps
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Invader still in plastic, by paps on Sept 25, 2021 7:20:40 GMT 1, Hi all Another option is to buy tiles to frame and put the signed one on the back. You can keep the original one sealed and enjoy the artwork everyday. would you print out copies of prints to frame, and keep original ones in a folder?
Prints or paintings are not sold in a sealed static bag that hide the artwork.
Most of here are collectors, we like the artworks of course but there is also a financial question like Lroy said or at least you are questionning yourself : By openning the bag, will i degrading the artwork?
But i totally understand lucky peoples who own Invader kit and put their behind a beautiful frame on the wall.
Each to their own at last.
And to answer to your question, yes a have copies of prints on my wall. I canโt afford the Pejac prints so i bought the postcards. They are great.
Have a nice week end all
Hi all Another option is to buy tiles to frame and put the signed one on the back. You can keep the original one sealed and enjoy the artwork everyday. would you print out copies of prints to frame, and keep original ones in a folder? Hi longshanks Prints or paintings are not sold in a sealed static bag that hide the artwork. Most of here are collectors, we like the artworks of course but there is also a financial question like Lroy said or at least you are questionning yourself : By openning the bag, will i degrading the artwork? But i totally understand lucky peoples who own Invader kit and put their behind a beautiful frame on the wall. Each to their own at last. And to answer to your question, yes a have copies of prints on my wall. I canโt afford the Pejac prints so i bought the postcards. They are great. Have a nice week end all |
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Invader still in plastic, by Alban Google on Sept 25, 2021 7:44:43 GMT 1, Iโve been told that Invader is working on offering authenticity certificates, which would mean that IK opened or not opened would be the same value (as long as the opened ones are properly framed). Open your Ik, frame it, you will appreciate it so much more what are your sources ?
Web ?
It won't be never the same, with Invader COA or not What is the real problem with an unopened Invader ?! We have so many things on the walls. What about prints still in tubes under the bed ?
Someone working for Invader. Told me they donโt offer authenticity certificate yet because of lack of time, but they are working on it.
Yes I agree with you, opened/unopened are the same for me. I have 4 IK opened and enjoying everyday.
Iโve been told that Invader is working on offering authenticity certificates, which would mean that IK opened or not opened would be the same value (as long as the opened ones are properly framed). Open your Ik, frame it, you will appreciate it so much more what are your sources ?
Web ?
It won't be never the same, with Invader COA or not What is the real problem with an unopened Invader ?! We have so many things on the walls. What about prints still in tubes under the bed ?
Someone working for Invader. Told me they donโt offer authenticity certificate yet because of lack of time, but they are working on it. Yes I agree with you, opened/unopened are the same for me. I have 4 IK opened and enjoying everyday. |
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Invader still in plastic, by Javier on Sept 25, 2021 8:28:50 GMT 1, If someone has an opened one that want to let go, please DM me. Thereโs a house here waiting for one to receive our love
If someone has an opened one that want to let go, please DM me. Thereโs a house here waiting for one to receive our love
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Invader still in plastic, by Lroy on Sept 25, 2021 10:01:16 GMT 1, If someone has an opened one that want to let go, please DM me. Thereโs a house here waiting for one to receive our love I was sure to find you here my friend ! Hope you will find one at a good price...
Anyway, just saying about opened or unopened : the best Invader alias are the unic pieces with beautiful, classy, and large tiles.. Real gems...
I did not saw in real ( opened ) the last ones that he made, but well I have two ( i have had 2, still gor one) , I think that the quality is not the same than the unic ones... They look more shinny and are better in real ( i only had a D600 then )... Anyway, Just my advise ( I took these photos during La Generale 2011 exhibition, in front of Le Bataclan, and includes some from Lefeuvre gallery )... You can feel the love for them ...
* my dream was to get the sign road ( this is an edition of 10 and it was 10 k then )...
If someone has an opened one that want to let go, please DM me. Thereโs a house here waiting for one to receive our love I was sure to find you here my friend ! Hope you will find one at a good price...
Anyway, just saying about opened or unopened : the best Invader alias are the unic pieces with beautiful, classy, and large tiles.. Real gems...
I did not saw in real ( opened ) the last ones that he made, but well I have two ( i have had 2, still gor one) , I think that the quality is not the same than the unic ones... They look more shinny and are better in real ( i only had a D600 then )... Anyway, Just my advise ( I took these photos during La Generale 2011 exhibition, in front of Le Bataclan, and includes some from Lefeuvre gallery )... You can feel the love for them ...
* my dream was to get the sign road ( this is an edition of 10 and it was 10 k then )...
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keeb25
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Invader still in plastic, by keeb25 on Sept 25, 2021 10:19:38 GMT 1, Thank you to everyone who responded to me! What a great community to have joined..I really appreciate it. Being a collector of urban and contemporary art for around 15 years now, its nice to see theres actually a whole forum for people like us. All found from googling "how to frame sealed invader" 
I think to be honest, I wont be opening it. For now, I am going to frame in an acrylic casing. I have attached 2 designs below. The shelf inside the box is my favourite for now...
Opinions?
Keeb x
Thank you to everyone who responded to me! What a great community to have joined..I really appreciate it. Being a collector of urban and contemporary art for around 15 years now, its nice to see theres actually a whole forum for people like us. All found from googling "how to frame sealed invader" I think to be honest, I wont be opening it. For now, I am going to frame in an acrylic casing. I have attached 2 designs below. The shelf inside the box is my favourite for now... Opinions? Keeb x |
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Javier
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Invader still in plastic, by Javier on Sept 25, 2021 11:09:51 GMT 1, Thank you to everyone who responded to me! What a great community to have joined..I really appreciate it. Being a collector of urban and contemporary art for around 15 years now, its nice to see theres actually a whole forum for people like us. All found from googling "how to frame sealed invader" I think to be honest, I wont be opening it. For now, I am going to frame in an acrylic casing. I have attached 2 designs below. The shelf inside the box is my favourite for now... Opinions? Keeb x
Once i have one, if itโs unopened it will turn into opened
And about framing, right. No doubt
Enjoy whatever you decide!!
Thank you to everyone who responded to me! What a great community to have joined..I really appreciate it. Being a collector of urban and contemporary art for around 15 years now, its nice to see theres actually a whole forum for people like us. All found from googling "how to frame sealed invader" I think to be honest, I wont be opening it. For now, I am going to frame in an acrylic casing. I have attached 2 designs below. The shelf inside the box is my favourite for now... Opinions? Keeb x Once i have one, if itโs unopened it will turn into opened And about framing, right. No doubt Enjoy whatever you decide!! |
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Invader still in plastic, by Lroy on Sept 25, 2021 12:26:40 GMT 1, Thank you to everyone who responded to me! What a great community to have joined..I really appreciate it. Being a collector of urban and contemporary art for around 15 years now, its nice to see theres actually a whole forum for people like us. All found from googling "how to frame sealed invader" I think to be honest, I wont be opening it. For now, I am going to frame in an acrylic casing. I have attached 2 designs below. The shelf inside the box is my favourite for now... Opinions? Keeb x Once i have one, if itโs unopened it will turn into opened And about framing, right. No doubt Enjoy whatever you decide!!
Ahah you are a kamikaze bro !
Thank you to everyone who responded to me! What a great community to have joined..I really appreciate it. Being a collector of urban and contemporary art for around 15 years now, its nice to see theres actually a whole forum for people like us. All found from googling "how to frame sealed invader" I think to be honest, I wont be opening it. For now, I am going to frame in an acrylic casing. I have attached 2 designs below. The shelf inside the box is my favourite for now... Opinions? Keeb x Once i have one, if itโs unopened it will turn into opened And about framing, right. No doubt Enjoy whatever you decide!! Ahah you are a kamikaze bro ! |
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