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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Acme Thunderer on Dec 23, 2021 19:39:04 GMT 1, Afraid you are completely wrong, the Martin Whatson mini prints were never given away free as they were sold a limited release as signed and numbered. It was only the Snik and Findac mini prints that were given away at with main releases at vault sales. afraid your wrong They were given away free with some releases๐ Once posted on the internet, itโs hard to change ๐
By thinking this timed release will affect the MW market negatively gives me no confidence to take your comments with any accuracy.
Afraid you are completely wrong, the Martin Whatson mini prints were never given away free as they were sold a limited release as signed and numbered. It was only the Snik and Findac mini prints that were given away at with main releases at vault sales. afraid your wrong They were given away free with some releases๐ Once posted on the internet, itโs hard to change ๐ Signed and numbered mini prints were not given away free on release and always sold out (with the amount released). By thinking this timed release will affect the MW market negatively gives me no confidence to take your comments with any accuracy. |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by max1 on Dec 23, 2021 19:51:23 GMT 1, I think the print quality of these will be similar to GP's usual releases, the last Whatson release was also partially giclee with screen print.
I would agree it is pricey, but anyone just wanting their first official Whatson artwork on their wall to enjoy will pay this.
I think the print quality of these will be similar to GP's usual releases, the last Whatson release was also partially giclee with screen print.
I would agree it is pricey, but anyone just wanting their first official Whatson artwork on their wall to enjoy will pay this.
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Fairxat on Dec 23, 2021 19:57:11 GMT 1, afraid your wrong They were given away free with some releases๐ Once posted on the internet, itโs hard to change ๐ Signed and numbered mini prints were not given away free on release and always sold out (with the amount released). By thinking this timed release will affect the Martin Whatson market negatively gives me no confidence to take your comments with any accuracy.
Itโs not about the time release
Itโs about being unnumbered which a few other posters picked up on
Itโs not really limited, is it ?
afraid your wrong They were given away free with some releases๐ Once posted on the internet, itโs hard to change ๐ Signed and numbered mini prints were not given away free on release and always sold out (with the amount released). By thinking this timed release will affect the Martin Whatson market negatively gives me no confidence to take your comments with any accuracy. Itโs not about the time release Itโs about being unnumbered which a few other posters picked up on Itโs not really limited, is it ? |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by trastevere on Dec 23, 2021 20:05:58 GMT 1, afraid your wrong They were given away free with some releases๐ Once posted on the internet, itโs hard to change ๐ Signed and numbered mini prints were not given away free on release and always sold out (with the amount released). By thinking this timed release will affect the Martin Whatson market negatively gives me no confidence to take your comments with any accuracy. Acme, I think you are right about most things you said in this thread and I appreciate you taking the time explaining the type of prints these two timed editions are. However, mini prints were never meant to be sold. GP never sold them and yes, they gifted MW mini prints at the older vault sales. Not anymore. So you would get a mini print by MW if you bought a MW print at the vault sale. I got ER, Make Love and Chinook Heart like that. Again, they were never meant to be for sale in the primary market and I am pretty certain that GP and Martin never sold them. The only exception is Sea Spray (Sjรธsprรธyt), which is signed and numbered. That was meant to be for sale since the beginning, just like the mini Still Life. On another note, GP confirmed it is a timed release edition, not an open edition. It will be for sale for 12 hours and never again. I can't promise this is true, but that's what Graffiti Prints said. One last thing. Absolutely fair to hate, dislike or laugh about Martin Whatson's value. You all might be right about the future, but right now I believe his collectors are the ones that are laughing the most... I hope this post works right, as I suck at commenting on UAA and still can't figure out how to work this website out... Happy holidays everybody!
afraid your wrong They were given away free with some releases๐ Once posted on the internet, itโs hard to change ๐ Signed and numbered mini prints were not given away free on release and always sold out (with the amount released). By thinking this timed release will affect the Martin Whatson market negatively gives me no confidence to take your comments with any accuracy. Acme, I think you are right about most things you said in this thread and I appreciate you taking the time explaining the type of prints these two timed editions are. However, mini prints were never meant to be sold. GP never sold them and yes, they gifted MW mini prints at the older vault sales. Not anymore. So you would get a mini print by MW if you bought a MW print at the vault sale. I got ER, Make Love and Chinook Heart like that. Again, they were never meant to be for sale in the primary market and I am pretty certain that GP and Martin never sold them. The only exception is Sea Spray (Sjรธsprรธyt), which is signed and numbered. That was meant to be for sale since the beginning, just like the mini Still Life. On another note, GP confirmed it is a timed release edition, not an open edition. It will be for sale for 12 hours and never again. I can't promise this is true, but that's what Graffiti Prints said. One last thing. Absolutely fair to hate, dislike or laugh about Martin Whatson's value. You all might be right about the future, but right now I believe his collectors are the ones that are laughing the most... I hope this post works right, as I suck at commenting on UAA and still can't figure out how to work this website out... Happy holidays everybody! |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by amputeerich on Dec 23, 2021 20:08:12 GMT 1, I think the print quality of these will be similar to GP's usual releases, the last Whatson release was also partially giclee with screen print. I would agree it is pricey, but anyone just wanting their first official Whatson artwork on their wall to enjoy will pay this. Without wishing to get involved in the giclee vs screen print debate, or to discuss whether or not this will hurt his market, would here be an appropriate place to state the opinion that these prints (along with the rest of his work, as far as I can tell) are utterly meaningless, throwaway garbage? Meaning no offence to his supporters, but is this essentially art for those that donโt actually like art? In the same way that cramming sawdust and excrement into oneโs face might be seen as food for those that donโt like food? Surely we are better than this superficial crap.
In the words of Jim Carey in the Grinch; โone manโs toxic waste is another manโs potpourriโโฆ.
(I do agree entirely with you though)!
I think the print quality of these will be similar to GP's usual releases, the last Whatson release was also partially giclee with screen print. I would agree it is pricey, but anyone just wanting their first official Whatson artwork on their wall to enjoy will pay this. Without wishing to get involved in the giclee vs screen print debate, or to discuss whether or not this will hurt his market, would here be an appropriate place to state the opinion that these prints (along with the rest of his work, as far as I can tell) are utterly meaningless, throwaway garbage? Meaning no offence to his supporters, but is this essentially art for those that donโt actually like art? In the same way that cramming sawdust and excrement into oneโs face might be seen as food for those that donโt like food? Surely we are better than this superficial crap. In the words of Jim Carey in the Grinch; โone manโs toxic waste is another manโs potpourriโโฆ. (I do agree entirely with you though)! |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Acme Thunderer on Dec 23, 2021 20:11:03 GMT 1, Signed and numbered mini prints were not given away free on release and always sold out (with the amount released). By thinking this timed release will affect the Martin Whatson market negatively gives me no confidence to take your comments with any accuracy. Itโs not about the time release Itโs about being unnumbered which a few other posters picked up on Itโs not really limited, is it ?
Signed and numbered mini prints were not given away free on release and always sold out (with the amount released). By thinking this timed release will affect the Martin Whatson market negatively gives me no confidence to take your comments with any accuracy. Itโs not about the time release Itโs about being unnumbered which a few other posters picked up on Itโs not really limited, is it ? Itโs really not too difficult to understand. Below is the info from GP which says its not numbered and limited for sale until midnight. Couldnโt be clearer. You are picking and looking for problems that donโt exist. |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Icesay on Dec 23, 2021 20:12:17 GMT 1, I think the print quality of these will be similar to GP's usual releases, the last Whatson release was also partially giclee with screen print. I would agree it is pricey, but anyone just wanting their first official Whatson artwork on their wall to enjoy will pay this. Without wishing to get involved in the giclee vs screen print debate, or to discuss whether or not this will hurt his market, would here be an appropriate place to state the opinion that these prints (along with the rest of his work, as far as I can tell) are utterly meaningless, throwaway garbage? Meaning no offence to his supporters, but is this essentially art for those that donโt actually like art? In the same way that cramming sawdust and excrement into oneโs face might be seen as food for those that donโt like food? Surely we are better than this superficial crap.
I think the question really is... what is art? If someone finds something appealing to their eye then that is their version. Art has many levels rather like intelligence and in this version of the matrix there's a place for everyone.
I think the print quality of these will be similar to GP's usual releases, the last Whatson release was also partially giclee with screen print. I would agree it is pricey, but anyone just wanting their first official Whatson artwork on their wall to enjoy will pay this. Without wishing to get involved in the giclee vs screen print debate, or to discuss whether or not this will hurt his market, would here be an appropriate place to state the opinion that these prints (along with the rest of his work, as far as I can tell) are utterly meaningless, throwaway garbage? Meaning no offence to his supporters, but is this essentially art for those that donโt actually like art? In the same way that cramming sawdust and excrement into oneโs face might be seen as food for those that donโt like food? Surely we are better than this superficial crap. I think the question really is... what is art? If someone finds something appealing to their eye then that is their version. Art has many levels rather like intelligence and in this version of the matrix there's a place for everyone. |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Deleted on Dec 23, 2021 20:19:55 GMT 1, His work is just so dull and repetitive
GP are and have always been money grabbers
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His work is just so dull and repetitive
GP are and have always been money grabbers
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by JL Broooks on Dec 23, 2021 20:31:36 GMT 1, Flooding the market with open editions. That has worked really well for streetart artists before.
Flooding the market with open editions. That has worked really well for streetart artists before.
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by artlife11 on Dec 23, 2021 20:42:50 GMT 1, Flooding the market with open editions. That has worked really well for streetart artists before.
People been bugging up MW all year with not much availability to buy.
He does 2 affordable prints that look quite well done and everyone dissing them.
They are ltd same at the Jose Parla from Avante art
Flooding the market with open editions. That has worked really well for streetart artists before. People been bugging up MW all year with not much availability to buy. He does 2 affordable prints that look quite well done and everyone dissing them. They are ltd same at the Jose Parla from Avante art |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Dive Jedi on Dec 23, 2021 20:45:58 GMT 1, Flooding the market with open editions. That has worked really well for streetart artists before.
Very glad to see nobody likes them.
I'm looking forward to my 1/1 prints....
Flooding the market with open editions. That has worked really well for streetart artists before. Very glad to see nobody likes them. I'm looking forward to my 1/1 prints.... |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by kdog on Dec 23, 2021 20:49:18 GMT 1, I thought they looked kinda cool - picked up both. Enjoy if you like them, pass if you donโt. No need to worry.
I thought they looked kinda cool - picked up both. Enjoy if you like them, pass if you donโt. No need to worry.
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Art for Love 1 on Dec 23, 2021 21:13:24 GMT 1, i like them! cheap and cheerful!
i like them! cheap and cheerful!
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Fairxat on Dec 23, 2021 21:43:47 GMT 1, Itโs not about the time release Itโs about being unnumbered which a few other posters picked up on Itโs not really limited, is it ? Itโs really not too difficult to understand. Below is the info from GP which says its not numbered and limited for sale until midnight. Couldnโt be clearer. You are picking and looking for problems that donโt exist.
Check the American market out, they have just discovered the artist and not aware of the constant releases.
Itโs not about the time release Itโs about being unnumbered which a few other posters picked up on Itโs not really limited, is it ? Itโs really not too difficult to understand. Below is the info from GP which says its not numbered and limited for sale until midnight. Couldnโt be clearer. You are picking and looking for problems that donโt exist. Check the American market out, they have just discovered the artist and not aware of the constant releases. |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Acme Thunderer on Dec 23, 2021 22:06:34 GMT 1, Itโs really not too difficult to understand. Below is the info from GP which says its not numbered and limited for sale until midnight. Couldnโt be clearer. You are picking and looking for problems that donโt exist. Check the American market out, they have just discovered the artist and not aware of the constant releases.
With regards to constant releases - in 2021, the only other MW releases from GP were Rock Climber and Beyond The Wall. Hardly prolific.
Itโs really not too difficult to understand. Below is the info from GP which says its not numbered and limited for sale until midnight. Couldnโt be clearer. You are picking and looking for problems that donโt exist. Check the American market out, they have just discovered the artist and not aware of the constant releases. The US market havenโt just discovered Martin Whatson - they have been collecting him for years and are hoovering up many of the OGs and prints. The market is just as strong there as it is in UK/Europe so nothing new. With regards to constant releases - in 2021, the only other MW releases from GP were Rock Climber and Beyond The Wall. Hardly prolific. |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Fairxat on Dec 23, 2021 22:14:26 GMT 1, Check the American market out, they have just discovered the artist and not aware of the constant releases. The US market havenโt just discovered Martin Whatson - they have been collecting him for years and are hoovering up many of the OGs and prints. The market is just as strong there as it is in UK/Europe so nothing new.
Past few years most of the American buyers bought in, once they are aware of constant releases of old images and unnumbered pps they wonโt be hoovering up those prints. The highest prices are all driven by American buyers
Check the American market out, they have just discovered the artist and not aware of the constant releases. The US market havenโt just discovered Martin Whatson - they have been collecting him for years and are hoovering up many of the OGs and prints. The market is just as strong there as it is in UK/Europe so nothing new. Past few years most of the American buyers bought in, once they are aware of constant releases of old images and unnumbered pps they wonโt be hoovering up those prints. The highest prices are all driven by American buyers |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by moe on Dec 23, 2021 23:07:26 GMT 1, Canโt wait to see these be sold in their โVaultโ sale or whatever they call it. Probably will be 2x the price too with who knows how many units.
Canโt wait to see these be sold in their โVaultโ sale or whatever they call it. Probably will be 2x the price too with who knows how many units.
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Newar on Dec 23, 2021 23:27:50 GMT 1, It's maybe giclee but with 7 colors screenprint.
it's not a lazy open edition even if it'll be better at 150โฌ  but martin is hot and it's a good way to acquire one of his piece at a reasonable price on primary.
Unfortunately will pass  my last piece for this year was Camilla Engstrรถm
It's maybe giclee but with 7 colors screenprint. it's not a lazy open edition even if it'll be better at 150โฌ but martin is hot and it's a good way to acquire one of his piece at a reasonable price on primary. Unfortunately will pass my last piece for this year was Camilla Engstrรถm |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Sunny Garcia on Dec 23, 2021 23:33:26 GMT 1, If they sell 1000 of each (which they will I imagine), They make about $500K (USD) - production costs (not sure what that would amount to)?
So an easy $200K+ each? Not too shabby for one release ๐คฃ
If they sell 1000 of each (which they will I imagine), They make about $500K (USD) - production costs (not sure what that would amount to)?
So an easy $200K+ each? Not too shabby for one release ๐คฃ
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by tranito on Dec 23, 2021 23:35:44 GMT 1, If they sell 1000 of each (which they will I imagine), They make about $500K (USD) - production costs (not sure what that would amount to)? So an easy $200K+ each? Not too shabby for one release ๐คฃ
They will sell way more than 1000 of each. You're not even close.
If they sell 1000 of each (which they will I imagine), They make about $500K (USD) - production costs (not sure what that would amount to)? So an easy $200K+ each? Not too shabby for one release ๐คฃ They will sell way more than 1000 of each. You're not even close. |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Sunny Garcia on Dec 23, 2021 23:40:29 GMT 1, If they sell 1000 of each (which they will I imagine), They make about $500K (USD) - production costs (not sure what that would amount to)? So an easy $200K+ each? Not too shabby for one release ๐คฃ They will sell way more than 1000 of each. You're not even close.
So maybe half a Mill each?
If they sell 1000 of each (which they will I imagine), They make about $500K (USD) - production costs (not sure what that would amount to)? So an easy $200K+ each? Not too shabby for one release ๐คฃ They will sell way more than 1000 of each. You're not even close. So maybe half a Mill each? |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by tranito on Dec 23, 2021 23:50:28 GMT 1, They will sell way more than 1000 of each. You're not even close. So maybe half a Mill each?
Much more.
They will sell way more than 1000 of each. You're not even close. So maybe half a Mill each? Much more. |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by tranito on Dec 23, 2021 23:55:18 GMT 1, Canโt wait to see these be sold in their โVaultโ sale or whatever they call it. Probably will be 2x the price too with who knows how many units.
The vault is for the rare stuff to sell for big bucks. Why would they even bother with the 2 Whatsons that were meant for everyone to have a chance at grabbing to begin with? These will be all over eBay. These are to satisfy the collectors who are 0/10 in the lotteries. It won't appreciate like his other prints and are the less likely to resurface in the vault.
Canโt wait to see these be sold in their โVaultโ sale or whatever they call it. Probably will be 2x the price too with who knows how many units. The vault is for the rare stuff to sell for big bucks. Why would they even bother with the 2 Whatsons that were meant for everyone to have a chance at grabbing to begin with? These will be all over eBay. These are to satisfy the collectors who are 0/10 in the lotteries. It won't appreciate like his other prints and are the less likely to resurface in the vault. |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Jaylove on Dec 24, 2021 3:14:39 GMT 1, Canโt wait to see these be sold in their โVaultโ sale or whatever they call it. Probably will be 2x the price too with who knows how many units. The vault is for the rare stuff to sell for big bucks. Why would they even bother with the 2 Whatsons that were meant for everyone to have a chance at grabbing to begin with? These will be all over eBay. These are to satisfy the collectors who are 0/10 in the lotteries. It won't appreciate like his other prints and are the less likely to resurface in the vault.
unsigned? I guess we'll see.
Canโt wait to see these be sold in their โVaultโ sale or whatever they call it. Probably will be 2x the price too with who knows how many units. The vault is for the rare stuff to sell for big bucks. Why would they even bother with the 2 Whatsons that were meant for everyone to have a chance at grabbing to begin with? These will be all over eBay. These are to satisfy the collectors who are 0/10 in the lotteries. It won't appreciate like his other prints and are the less likely to resurface in the vault. unsigned? I guess we'll see. |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by tranito on Dec 24, 2021 3:21:15 GMT 1, The vault is for the rare stuff to sell for big bucks. Why would they even bother with the 2 Whatsons that were meant for everyone to have a chance at grabbing to begin with? These will be all over eBay. These are to satisfy the collectors who are 0/10 in the lotteries. It won't appreciate like his other prints and are the less likely to resurface in the vault. unsigned?ย I guess we'll see.
What do you mean? You think people didn't buy these because they were unsigned? They sold a shit load that's for sure. That's a shit load of people who are happy to add a Whatson to their collection after missing out over and over again.
The vault is for the rare stuff to sell for big bucks. Why would they even bother with the 2 Whatsons that were meant for everyone to have a chance at grabbing to begin with? These will be all over eBay. These are to satisfy the collectors who are 0/10 in the lotteries. It won't appreciate like his other prints and are the less likely to resurface in the vault. unsigned?ย I guess we'll see. What do you mean? You think people didn't buy these because they were unsigned? They sold a shit load that's for sure. That's a shit load of people who are happy to add a Whatson to their collection after missing out over and over again. |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Fairxat on Dec 24, 2021 4:41:21 GMT 1, Canโt wait to see these be sold in their โVaultโ sale or whatever they call it. Probably will be 2x the price too with who knows how many units. The vault is for the rare stuff to sell for big bucks. Why would they even bother with the 2 Whatsons that were meant for everyone to have a chance at grabbing to begin with? These will be all over eBay. These are to satisfy the collectors who are 0/10 in the lotteries. It won't appreciate like his other prints and are the less likely to resurface in the vault.
its more the point being unnumbered and being pushed as a time released limited edition but in reality more will be printed and sold over the years to come
a few of these american collectors are buying multiple works of the same pieces and will soon realise the items are not so limited
Canโt wait to see these be sold in their โVaultโ sale or whatever they call it. Probably will be 2x the price too with who knows how many units. The vault is for the rare stuff to sell for big bucks. Why would they even bother with the 2 Whatsons that were meant for everyone to have a chance at grabbing to begin with? These will be all over eBay. These are to satisfy the collectors who are 0/10 in the lotteries. It won't appreciate like his other prints and are the less likely to resurface in the vault. the free unsigned mini whatsons have been in the vault sales, anything is possible once money is involved. its more the point being unnumbered and being pushed as a time released limited edition but in reality more will be printed and sold over the years to come a few of these american collectors are buying multiple works of the same pieces and will soon realise the items are not so limited |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by tranito on Dec 24, 2021 4:50:31 GMT 1, The vault is for the rare stuff to sell for big bucks. Why would they even bother with the 2 Whatsons that were meant for everyone to have a chance at grabbing to begin with? These will be all over eBay. These are to satisfy the collectors who are 0/10 in the lotteries. It won't appreciate like his other prints and are the less likely to resurface in the vault. the free unsigned mini whatsons have been in the vault sales, anything is possible once money is involved. its more the point being unnumbered and being pushed as a time released limited edition but in reality more will be printed and sold over the years to come
Sounds like a conspiracy theory against GP. You could say anything GP releases, even the usual numbered stuff, keeps being sold for years to come through the vault. You could say they reprint more unnumbered APs and PPs etc. On top of not being true, that's beside the point. The point is, this is not an open edition. Well, it was for 12 hours, but they are now sold out, the edition is now closed and it won't get reprinted. Stop spreading misinformation.
The vault is for the rare stuff to sell for big bucks. Why would they even bother with the 2 Whatsons that were meant for everyone to have a chance at grabbing to begin with? These will be all over eBay. These are to satisfy the collectors who are 0/10 in the lotteries. It won't appreciate like his other prints and are the less likely to resurface in the vault. the free unsigned mini whatsons have been in the vault sales, anything is possible once money is involved. its more the point being unnumbered and being pushed as a time released limited edition but in reality more will be printed and sold over the years to come Sounds like a conspiracy theory against GP. You could say anything GP releases, even the usual numbered stuff, keeps being sold for years to come through the vault. You could say they reprint more unnumbered APs and PPs etc. On top of not being true, that's beside the point. The point is, this is not an open edition. Well, it was for 12 hours, but they are now sold out, the edition is now closed and it won't get reprinted. Stop spreading misinformation. |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Fairxat on Dec 24, 2021 5:55:26 GMT 1, the free unsigned mini whatsons have been in the vault sales, anything is possible once money is involved. its more the point being unnumbered and being pushed as a time released limited edition but in reality more will be printed and sold over the years to come Sounds like a conspiracy theory against GP. You could say anything GP releases, even the usual numbered stuff, keeps being sold for years to come through the vault. You could say they reprint more unnumbered APs and PPs etc. On top of not being true, that's beside the point. The point is, this is not an open edition. Well, it was for 12 hours, but they are now sold out, the edition is now closed and it won't get reprinted. Stop spreading misinformation.
Would be a dumb move re printing numbered prints, the whole issue that others have picked up on over the years is the unnumbered stuff.
The last few vaults have been setting the market prices
the free unsigned mini whatsons have been in the vault sales, anything is possible once money is involved. its more the point being unnumbered and being pushed as a time released limited edition but in reality more will be printed and sold over the years to come Sounds like a conspiracy theory against GP. You could say anything GP releases, even the usual numbered stuff, keeps being sold for years to come through the vault. You could say they reprint more unnumbered APs and PPs etc. On top of not being true, that's beside the point. The point is, this is not an open edition. Well, it was for 12 hours, but they are now sold out, the edition is now closed and it won't get reprinted. Stop spreading misinformation. Would be a dumb move re printing numbered prints, the whole issue that others have picked up on over the years is the unnumbered stuff. The last few vaults have been setting the market prices |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by tranito on Dec 24, 2021 6:42:24 GMT 1, Sounds like a conspiracy theory against GP. You could say anything GP releases, even the usual numbered stuff, keeps being sold for years to come through the vault. You could say they reprint more unnumbered APs and PPs etc. On top of not being true, that's beside the point. The point is, this is not an open edition. Well, it was for 12 hours, but they are now sold out, the edition is now closed and it won't get reprinted. Stop spreading misinformation. Would be a dumb move re printing numbered prints, the whole issue that others have picked up on over the years is the unnumbered stuff. The last few vaults have been setting the market prices
You don't get it. Vault sales set nothing. The market sets the prices. Then the vault sells at market prices. It's not the other way around. The vault is pointless if a print didn't appreciate in value on the secondary market first and became somewhat scarce. GP can't sell a print on the vault for ยฃ500 if there's a ton on eBay at cost for ยฃ195. And if GP do sell a print (originally ยฃ195) at ยฃ500 on the vault, well good for them and good for everyone who already owns the print, because guess what, it most likely means that everybody's ยฃ195 print is now at least close to being worth ยฃ500. Not bad. Now stop it with this reprint nonsense.
Sounds like a conspiracy theory against GP. You could say anything GP releases, even the usual numbered stuff, keeps being sold for years to come through the vault. You could say they reprint more unnumbered APs and PPs etc. On top of not being true, that's beside the point. The point is, this is not an open edition. Well, it was for 12 hours, but they are now sold out, the edition is now closed and it won't get reprinted. Stop spreading misinformation. Would be a dumb move re printing numbered prints, the whole issue that others have picked up on over the years is the unnumbered stuff. The last few vaults have been setting the market prices You don't get it. Vault sales set nothing. The market sets the prices. Then the vault sells at market prices. It's not the other way around. The vault is pointless if a print didn't appreciate in value on the secondary market first and became somewhat scarce. GP can't sell a print on the vault for ยฃ500 if there's a ton on eBay at cost for ยฃ195. And if GP do sell a print (originally ยฃ195) at ยฃ500 on the vault, well good for them and good for everyone who already owns the print, because guess what, it most likely means that everybody's ยฃ195 print is now at least close to being worth ยฃ500. Not bad. Now stop it with this reprint nonsense. |
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Martin Whatson โข THE CRACK & SNEAK PEAK , by Fairxat on Dec 24, 2021 6:49:51 GMT 1, Would be a dumb move re printing numbered prints, the whole issue that others have picked up on over the years is the unnumbered stuff. The last few vaults have been setting the market prices You don't get it. Vault sales set nothing. The market sets the prices. Then the vault sells at market prices. It's not the other way around. The vault is pointless if a print didn't appreciate in value on the secondary market first and became somewhat scarce. GP can't sell a print on the vault for ยฃ500 if there's a ton on eBay at cost for ยฃ195. And if GP do sell a print (originally ยฃ195) at ยฃ500 on the vault, well good for them and good for everyone who already owns the print, because guess what, it most likely means that everybody's ยฃ195 print is now at least close to being worth ยฃ500. Not bad. Now stop it with this reprint nonsense.
How many prints from this outfit do you own?
Would be a dumb move re printing numbered prints, the whole issue that others have picked up on over the years is the unnumbered stuff. The last few vaults have been setting the market prices You don't get it. Vault sales set nothing. The market sets the prices. Then the vault sells at market prices. It's not the other way around. The vault is pointless if a print didn't appreciate in value on the secondary market first and became somewhat scarce. GP can't sell a print on the vault for ยฃ500 if there's a ton on eBay at cost for ยฃ195. And if GP do sell a print (originally ยฃ195) at ยฃ500 on the vault, well good for them and good for everyone who already owns the print, because guess what, it most likely means that everybody's ยฃ195 print is now at least close to being worth ยฃ500. Not bad. Now stop it with this reprint nonsense. How many prints from this outfit do you own? |
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but martin is hot and it's a good way to acquire one of his piece at a reasonable price on primary.
my last piece for this year was Camilla Engstrรถm
