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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Deleted on May 4, 2021 14:48:22 GMT 1, Private sales are HUGE!!!
Private sales are HUGE!!!
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Winks on May 4, 2021 15:58:06 GMT 1, For those in the know, what would a paper piece like the one at the top go for now?
For those in the know, what would a paper piece like the one at the top go for now?
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Deleted on May 4, 2021 17:35:18 GMT 1, For those in the know, what would a paper piece like the one at the top go for now?
Probably 20k
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Winks on May 4, 2021 18:19:04 GMT 1, For those in the know, what would a paper piece like the one at the top go for now? Probably 20k
Galleries were. Offering discounts in 2018.
For those in the know, what would a paper piece like the one at the top go for now? Probably 20k Cheers. Market’s gone mad in two odd years. Galleries were. Offering discounts in 2018. |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Deleted on May 4, 2021 18:20:50 GMT 1, Cheers. Market’s gone made in two odd years. Galleries were. Offering discounts in 2018.
Asian market loves him. I’m aware of $200,000 offers on big pieces..
Primary was very active but now it’s much harder to get works and they are limited..
good artist and good guy
Cheers. Market’s gone made in two odd years. Galleries were. Offering discounts in 2018. Asian market loves him. I’m aware of $200,000 offers on big pieces.. Primary was very active but now it’s much harder to get works and they are limited.. good artist and good guy |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Jimini Cricket on May 5, 2021 1:29:53 GMT 1, Looks like selling privately may be the way to go.
None of the auction houses have been able to get remotely close to $200k. This number is obviously impossible to verify since the source is a post on a forum.
Looks like selling privately may be the way to go.
None of the auction houses have been able to get remotely close to $200k. This number is obviously impossible to verify since the source is a post on a forum.
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by tab1 on May 5, 2021 1:32:40 GMT 1, Rather buy a dran canvas than this artificially inflated market that will not last long
Rather buy a dran canvas than this artificially inflated market that will not last long
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Winks on May 5, 2021 2:22:20 GMT 1, Rather buy a dran canvas than this artificially inflated market that will not last long
How is it artificially inflated
Rather buy a dran canvas than this artificially inflated market that will not last long How is it artificially inflated |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Winks on May 5, 2021 2:40:30 GMT 1, How is it artificially inflated How is going from 20k to 200k usd in two years not artificially inflated?
Lazy. That is not answering the question. How was it artificially inflated?
How is it artificially inflated How is going from 20k to 200k usd in two years not artificially inflated? Lazy. That is not answering the question. How was it artificially inflated? |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Jimini Cricket on May 5, 2021 2:58:51 GMT 1, Where's the proof that it's gone to $200k? A forum post doesn't count.
Where's the proof that it's gone to $200k? A forum post doesn't count.
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Jimini Cricket on May 5, 2021 4:25:03 GMT 1, Ok, found proof. Looks legit..
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by state on May 5, 2021 6:07:51 GMT 1, Ok, found proof. Looks legit.. ![]()
Ok, found proof. Looks legit.. ![]() payment in dogecoin? seems legit haha however i wouldnt be surprised if someone pulled the trigger considering people making fortunes off doge. a 5k investment couple months ago could now get you a big ep canvas..what a crazy world |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by tab1 on May 5, 2021 10:17:30 GMT 1, How is going from 20k to 200k usd in two years not artificially inflated? Lazy. That is not answering the question. How was it artificially inflated?
Same motions as Thierry noir just the figures involved are a greater increase.
I had contacted representatives over the last two years and they pulled canvases from the market and limited sales and now increased the prices massively without any major shows and during a pandemic?
Do you own / invested in works?
How is going from 20k to 200k usd in two years not artificially inflated? Lazy. That is not answering the question. How was it artificially inflated? Same motions as Thierry noir just the figures involved are a greater increase. I had contacted representatives over the last two years and they pulled canvases from the market and limited sales and now increased the prices massively without any major shows and during a pandemic? Do you own / invested in works? |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Winks on May 5, 2021 10:42:07 GMT 1, Lazy. That is not answering the question. How was it artificially inflated? Same motions as Thierry noir just the figures involved are a greater increase. I had contacted representatives over the last two years and they pulled canvases from the market and limited sales and now increased the prices massively without any major shows and during a pandemic? Do you own / invested in works?
Noir’s rise was a result of a clamour on this site plus some strange online sales.
Edgar Plans refined his style from 2017/18 and came up with a style that was appealing to collectors. He got represented by some top galleries in 18/19 and did some Asian shows. The Asian market then kicked off and pulled the rest of Europe and the US along with it. Obviously except you.
I was on here in 2018 posting about him and yes I bought some pieces.
Now tell me how that is artificially inflated.
Sounds like massive sour grapes because you didn’t have the foresight to buy something.
Lazy. That is not answering the question. How was it artificially inflated? Same motions as Thierry noir just the figures involved are a greater increase. I had contacted representatives over the last two years and they pulled canvases from the market and limited sales and now increased the prices massively without any major shows and during a pandemic? Do you own / invested in works? Noir’s rise was a result of a clamour on this site plus some strange online sales. Edgar Plans refined his style from 2017/18 and came up with a style that was appealing to collectors. He got represented by some top galleries in 18/19 and did some Asian shows. The Asian market then kicked off and pulled the rest of Europe and the US along with it. Obviously except you. I was on here in 2018 posting about him and yes I bought some pieces. Now tell me how that is artificially inflated. Sounds like massive sour grapes because you didn’t have the foresight to buy something. |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by hgtefr on May 5, 2021 10:52:36 GMT 1, For those in the know, what would a paper piece like the one at the top go for now? Probably 20k
For those in the know, what would a paper piece like the one at the top go for now? Probably 20k For 20k I’d sell mine |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by tab1 on May 5, 2021 11:42:18 GMT 1, Same motions as Thierry noir just the figures involved are a greater increase. I had contacted representatives over the last two years and they pulled canvases from the market and limited sales and now increased the prices massively without any major shows and during a pandemic? Do you own / invested in works? Noir’s rise was a result of a clamour on this site plus some strange online sales. Edgar Plans refined his style from 2017/18 and came up with a style that was appealing to collectors. He got represented by some top gallerie in 18/19 and did some Asian shows. The Asian market then kicked off and pulled the rest of Europe and the US along with it. Obviously except you. I was on here in 2018 posting about him and yes I bought some pieces. Now tell me how that is artificially inflated. Sounds like massive sour grapes because you didn’t have the foresight to buy something.
2-3 years and he has risen to this amount from selling previously at a few k?
Banksy took 13 years before reached these prices discussed, with plenty of shows and media coverage compared to what exactly ?
Let alone all the other great artists from the the past that have taken decades to reach this level, what exactly warrants this great rise ?
Just shows the power of social media that has an impact on art markets
Being pumped in the Asian markets as a hot investment and great return as a gallery knew how to work the new market of interest?
Check back in 5 years and then can discuss his relevance of his market
Appealing style of cute comic style characters? Who are these high end collectors and what else is in their collections?
The same Asian market puts cola in 20k bottles of wine, just a lot of money splashing around in that market hence entrepreneurs eager to break that market not exactly a market to lead direction?
mostly those markets are to flaunt wealth and the higher the tag the greater the interest,we will see the long term outcome , sour grapes ?I would if I purchased at today’s prices and looked back in years time when the market bombs
www.google.com/amp/s/winepeek.com/2013/11/25/so-whats-wrong-with-mixing-chateau-lafite-and-coca-cola-anyway/amp/
Same motions as Thierry noir just the figures involved are a greater increase. I had contacted representatives over the last two years and they pulled canvases from the market and limited sales and now increased the prices massively without any major shows and during a pandemic? Do you own / invested in works? Noir’s rise was a result of a clamour on this site plus some strange online sales. Edgar Plans refined his style from 2017/18 and came up with a style that was appealing to collectors. He got represented by some top gallerie in 18/19 and did some Asian shows. The Asian market then kicked off and pulled the rest of Europe and the US along with it. Obviously except you. I was on here in 2018 posting about him and yes I bought some pieces. Now tell me how that is artificially inflated. Sounds like massive sour grapes because you didn’t have the foresight to buy something. 2-3 years and he has risen to this amount from selling previously at a few k? Banksy took 13 years before reached these prices discussed, with plenty of shows and media coverage compared to what exactly ? Let alone all the other great artists from the the past that have taken decades to reach this level, what exactly warrants this great rise ? Just shows the power of social media that has an impact on art markets Being pumped in the Asian markets as a hot investment and great return as a gallery knew how to work the new market of interest? Check back in 5 years and then can discuss his relevance of his market Appealing style of cute comic style characters? Who are these high end collectors and what else is in their collections? The same Asian market puts cola in 20k bottles of wine, just a lot of money splashing around in that market hence entrepreneurs eager to break that market not exactly a market to lead direction? mostly those markets are to flaunt wealth and the higher the tag the greater the interest,we will see the long term outcome , sour grapes ?I would if I purchased at today’s prices and looked back in years time when the market bombs www.google.com/amp/s/winepeek.com/2013/11/25/so-whats-wrong-with-mixing-chateau-lafite-and-coca-cola-anyway/amp/ |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by polokino on May 5, 2021 11:52:23 GMT 1, Noir’s rise was a result of a clamour on this site plus some strange online sales. Edgar Plans refined his style from 2017/18 and came up with a style that was appealing to collectors. He got represented by some top gallerie in 18/19 and did some Asian shows. The Asian market then kicked off and pulled the rest of Europe and the US along with it. Obviously except you. I was on here in 2018 posting about him and yes I bought some pieces. Now tell me how that is artificially inflated. Sounds like massive sour grapes because you didn’t have the foresight to buy something. 2-3 years and he has risen to this amount from selling previously at a few k? Banksy took 13 years before reached these prices discussed, with plenty of shows and media coverage compared to what exactly ? Let alone all the other great artists from the the past that have taken decades to reach this level, what exactly warrants this great rise ? Just shows the power of social media that has an impact on art markets Being pumped in the Asian markets as a hot investment and great return as a gallerie knew how to work the new market of interest? Check back in 5 years and then can discuss his relevance of his market Appealing style of cute comic style characters? Who are these high end collectors and what else is in their collections? The same Asian market puts cola in 20k bottles of wine, just a lot of money splashing around in that market hence entrepreneurs eager to break that market not exactly a market to lead direction? mostly those markets are to flaunt wealth and the higher the tag the greater the interest,we will see the long term outcome , sour grapes ?I would if I purchased at today’s prices and looked back in years time when the market bombs www.google.com/amp/s/winepeek.com/2013/11/25/so-whats-wrong-with-mixing-chateau-lafite-and-coca-cola-anyway/amp/
Noir’s rise was a result of a clamour on this site plus some strange online sales. Edgar Plans refined his style from 2017/18 and came up with a style that was appealing to collectors. He got represented by some top gallerie in 18/19 and did some Asian shows. The Asian market then kicked off and pulled the rest of Europe and the US along with it. Obviously except you. I was on here in 2018 posting about him and yes I bought some pieces. Now tell me how that is artificially inflated. Sounds like massive sour grapes because you didn’t have the foresight to buy something. 2-3 years and he has risen to this amount from selling previously at a few k? Banksy took 13 years before reached these prices discussed, with plenty of shows and media coverage compared to what exactly ? Let alone all the other great artists from the the past that have taken decades to reach this level, what exactly warrants this great rise ? Just shows the power of social media that has an impact on art markets Being pumped in the Asian markets as a hot investment and great return as a gallerie knew how to work the new market of interest? Check back in 5 years and then can discuss his relevance of his market Appealing style of cute comic style characters? Who are these high end collectors and what else is in their collections? The same Asian market puts cola in 20k bottles of wine, just a lot of money splashing around in that market hence entrepreneurs eager to break that market not exactly a market to lead direction? mostly those markets are to flaunt wealth and the higher the tag the greater the interest,we will see the long term outcome , sour grapes ?I would if I purchased at today’s prices and looked back in years time when the market bombs www.google.com/amp/s/winepeek.com/2013/11/25/so-whats-wrong-with-mixing-chateau-lafite-and-coca-cola-anyway/amp/Thanks for pointing that > SO, WHAT’S WRONG WITH MIXING CHATEAU LAFITE AND COCA-COLA ANYWAY? |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Winks on May 5, 2021 12:15:03 GMT 1, Noir’s rise was a result of a clamour on this site plus some strange online sales. Edgar Plans refined his style from 2017/18 and came up with a style that was appealing to collectors. He got represented by some top gallerie in 18/19 and did some Asian shows. The Asian market then kicked off and pulled the rest of Europe and the US along with it. Obviously except you. I was on here in 2018 posting about him and yes I bought some pieces. Now tell me how that is artificially inflated. Sounds like massive sour grapes because you didn’t have the foresight to buy something. 2-3 years and he has risen to this amount from selling previously at a few k? Banksy took 13 years before reached these prices discussed, with plenty of shows and media coverage compared to what exactly ? Let alone all the other great artists from the the past that have taken decades to reach this level, what exactly warrants this great rise ? Just shows the power of social media that has an impact on art markets Being pumped in the Asian markets as a hot investment and great return as a gallery knew how to work the new market of interest? Check back in 5 years and then can discuss his relevance of his market Appealing style of cute comic style characters? Who are these high end collectors and what else is in their collections? The same Asian market puts cola in 20k bottles of wine, just a lot of money splashing around in that market hence entrepreneurs eager to break that market not exactly a market to lead direction? mostly those markets are to flaunt wealth and the higher the tag the greater the interest,we will see the long term outcome , sour grapes ?I would if I purchased at today’s prices and looked back in years time when the market bombs www.google.com/amp/s/winepeek.com/2013/11/25/so-whats-wrong-with-mixing-chateau-lafite-and-coca-cola-anyway/amp/
You said that the market was artificially inflated. Now you’re bleating on about Banksy and because the rise hasn’t been what you think is ‘organic’ it is somehow fake. It is wholly irrelevant that some artists take longer to become sought after. Asian markets are huge and they like these type of images, same with Nara, same with Calleja. The relevance of his market is again irrelevant. Many thought Callej’a’s bubble would burst too.
Noir’s rise was a result of a clamour on this site plus some strange online sales. Edgar Plans refined his style from 2017/18 and came up with a style that was appealing to collectors. He got represented by some top gallerie in 18/19 and did some Asian shows. The Asian market then kicked off and pulled the rest of Europe and the US along with it. Obviously except you. I was on here in 2018 posting about him and yes I bought some pieces. Now tell me how that is artificially inflated. Sounds like massive sour grapes because you didn’t have the foresight to buy something. 2-3 years and he has risen to this amount from selling previously at a few k? Banksy took 13 years before reached these prices discussed, with plenty of shows and media coverage compared to what exactly ? Let alone all the other great artists from the the past that have taken decades to reach this level, what exactly warrants this great rise ? Just shows the power of social media that has an impact on art markets Being pumped in the Asian markets as a hot investment and great return as a gallery knew how to work the new market of interest? Check back in 5 years and then can discuss his relevance of his market Appealing style of cute comic style characters? Who are these high end collectors and what else is in their collections? The same Asian market puts cola in 20k bottles of wine, just a lot of money splashing around in that market hence entrepreneurs eager to break that market not exactly a market to lead direction? mostly those markets are to flaunt wealth and the higher the tag the greater the interest,we will see the long term outcome , sour grapes ?I would if I purchased at today’s prices and looked back in years time when the market bombs www.google.com/amp/s/winepeek.com/2013/11/25/so-whats-wrong-with-mixing-chateau-lafite-and-coca-cola-anyway/amp/You said that the market was artificially inflated. Now you’re bleating on about Banksy and because the rise hasn’t been what you think is ‘organic’ it is somehow fake. It is wholly irrelevant that some artists take longer to become sought after. Asian markets are huge and they like these type of images, same with Nara, same with Calleja. The relevance of his market is again irrelevant. Many thought Callej’a’s bubble would burst too. |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Deleted on May 5, 2021 13:02:22 GMT 1,
Stick it in Sbi auction then
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Deleted on May 5, 2021 13:03:27 GMT 1, Noir’s rise was a result of a clamour on this site plus some strange online sales. Edgar Plans refined his style from 2017/18 and came up with a style that was appealing to collectors. He got represented by some top gallerie in 18/19 and did some Asian shows. The Asian market then kicked off and pulled the rest of Europe and the US along with it. Obviously except you. I was on here in 2018 posting about him and yes I bought some pieces. Now tell me how that is artificially inflated. Sounds like massive sour grapes because you didn’t have the foresight to buy something. 2-3 years and he has risen to this amount from selling previously at a few k? Banksy took 13 years before reached these prices discussed, with plenty of shows and media coverage compared to what exactly ? Let alone all the other great artists from the the past that have taken decades to reach this level, what exactly warrants this great rise ? Just shows the power of social media that has an impact on art markets Being pumped in the Asian markets as a hot investment and great return as a gallery knew how to work the new market of interest? Check back in 5 years and then can discuss his relevance of his market Appealing style of cute comic style characters? Who are these high end collectors and what else is in their collections? The same Asian market puts cola in 20k bottles of wine, just a lot of money splashing around in that market hence entrepreneurs eager to break that market not exactly a market to lead direction? mostly those markets are to flaunt wealth and the higher the tag the greater the interest,we will see the long term outcome , sour grapes ?I would if I purchased at today’s prices and looked back in years time when the market bombs www.google.com/amp/s/winepeek.com/2013/11/25/so-whats-wrong-with-mixing-chateau-lafite-and-coca-cola-anyway/amp/
Banksy the most manipulated / fake market in the history of art.. 😂😂
Thanks for coming though 🤦🏼♂️
Noir’s rise was a result of a clamour on this site plus some strange online sales. Edgar Plans refined his style from 2017/18 and came up with a style that was appealing to collectors. He got represented by some top gallerie in 18/19 and did some Asian shows. The Asian market then kicked off and pulled the rest of Europe and the US along with it. Obviously except you. I was on here in 2018 posting about him and yes I bought some pieces. Now tell me how that is artificially inflated. Sounds like massive sour grapes because you didn’t have the foresight to buy something. 2-3 years and he has risen to this amount from selling previously at a few k? Banksy took 13 years before reached these prices discussed, with plenty of shows and media coverage compared to what exactly ? Let alone all the other great artists from the the past that have taken decades to reach this level, what exactly warrants this great rise ? Just shows the power of social media that has an impact on art markets Being pumped in the Asian markets as a hot investment and great return as a gallery knew how to work the new market of interest? Check back in 5 years and then can discuss his relevance of his market Appealing style of cute comic style characters? Who are these high end collectors and what else is in their collections? The same Asian market puts cola in 20k bottles of wine, just a lot of money splashing around in that market hence entrepreneurs eager to break that market not exactly a market to lead direction? mostly those markets are to flaunt wealth and the higher the tag the greater the interest,we will see the long term outcome , sour grapes ?I would if I purchased at today’s prices and looked back in years time when the market bombs www.google.com/amp/s/winepeek.com/2013/11/25/so-whats-wrong-with-mixing-chateau-lafite-and-coca-cola-anyway/amp/Banksy the most manipulated / fake market in the history of art.. 😂😂 Thanks for coming though 🤦🏼♂️ |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by artzzzy on May 5, 2021 13:09:27 GMT 1, I think that if all these artists become gradually irrelevant in the rest of the world their “Asia Market” will collapse too.
We’ve this happen in the past with many more important artists.
IMO the bottom line is not if the grow is organic or slow or fast.. it’s whether these artists are capable of producing relevant new art and not just repeating exactly the same formula that sold once or twice well is Asia.
And most of them don’t seam capable if this.
They continue to produce products specifically designed for the Asia market.
But soon this market will get tired of them too.
There’s new competition and tons of new products launched at that market every day.
Banksy and his rise is incomparable in any way to these artists..
Not only because of time frame and means
Above all because Banksy became who he is today by doing unique works and relevant art, not by selling cartoon paintings and plastic toys in Asia.
I think that if all these artists become gradually irrelevant in the rest of the world their “Asia Market” will collapse too.
We’ve this happen in the past with many more important artists.
IMO the bottom line is not if the grow is organic or slow or fast.. it’s whether these artists are capable of producing relevant new art and not just repeating exactly the same formula that sold once or twice well is Asia.
And most of them don’t seam capable if this.
They continue to produce products specifically designed for the Asia market.
But soon this market will get tired of them too.
There’s new competition and tons of new products launched at that market every day.
Banksy and his rise is incomparable in any way to these artists..
Not only because of time frame and means
Above all because Banksy became who he is today by doing unique works and relevant art, not by selling cartoon paintings and plastic toys in Asia.
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Deleted on May 5, 2021 13:19:54 GMT 1, I think that if all these artists become gradually irrelevant in the rest of the world their “Asia Market” will collapse too. We’ve this happen in the past with many more important artists. IMO the bottom line is not if the grow is organic or slow or fast.. it’s whether these artists are capable of producing relevant new art and not just repeating exactly the same formula that sold once or twice well is Asia. And most of them don’t seam capable if this. They continue to produce products specifically designed for the Asia market. But soon this market will get tired of them too. There’s new competition and tons of new products launched at that market every day. Banksy and his rise is incomparable in any way to these artists.. Not only because of time frame and means Above all because Banksy became who he is today by doing unique works and relevant art, not by selling cartoon paintings and plastic toys in Asia.
All I hear is jealousy. Why would the biggest economy in the world not be able to support its own art economy? The Asian market has different tastes to other markets and Edgar and many others are loved in that continent. Suck it up buttercup the price is what it is.
I think that if all these artists become gradually irrelevant in the rest of the world their “Asia Market” will collapse too. We’ve this happen in the past with many more important artists. IMO the bottom line is not if the grow is organic or slow or fast.. it’s whether these artists are capable of producing relevant new art and not just repeating exactly the same formula that sold once or twice well is Asia. And most of them don’t seam capable if this. They continue to produce products specifically designed for the Asia market. But soon this market will get tired of them too. There’s new competition and tons of new products launched at that market every day. Banksy and his rise is incomparable in any way to these artists.. Not only because of time frame and means Above all because Banksy became who he is today by doing unique works and relevant art, not by selling cartoon paintings and plastic toys in Asia. All I hear is jealousy. Why would the biggest economy in the world not be able to support its own art economy? The Asian market has different tastes to other markets and Edgar and many others are loved in that continent. Suck it up buttercup the price is what it is. |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Deleted on May 5, 2021 13:22:25 GMT 1, All I hear is jealousy. Why would the biggest economy in the world not be able to support its own art economy? The Asian market has different tastes to other markets and Edgar and many others are loved in that continent. Suck it up buttercup the price is what it is. For what it’s worth, I thought it was a very well reasoned post and difficult to disagree with.
Welcome to the new world. Fast money and fast rises. This is crypto time and people are making and spending millions! Yeee haaa
All I hear is jealousy. Why would the biggest economy in the world not be able to support its own art economy? The Asian market has different tastes to other markets and Edgar and many others are loved in that continent. Suck it up buttercup the price is what it is. For what it’s worth, I thought it was a very well reasoned post and difficult to disagree with. Welcome to the new world. Fast money and fast rises. This is crypto time and people are making and spending millions! Yeee haaa |
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Are you crypto gang the new Yuppies?
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Winks on May 5, 2021 13:25:12 GMT 1, I think that if all these artists become gradually irrelevant in the rest of the world their “Asia Market” will collapse too. We’ve this happen in the past with many more important artists. IMO the bottom line is not if the grow is organic or slow or fast.. it’s whether these artists are capable of producing relevant new art and not just repeating exactly the same formula that sold once or twice well is Asia. And most of them don’t seam capable if this. They continue to produce products specifically designed for the Asia market. But soon this market will get tired of them too. There’s new competition and tons of new products launched at that market every day. Banksy and his rise is incomparable in any way to these artists.. Not only because of time frame and means Above all because Banksy became who he is today by doing unique works and relevant art, not by selling cartoon paintings and plastic toys in Asia.
One man’s plastic toy is another man’s rat clock 🐀 🕰
I think that if all these artists become gradually irrelevant in the rest of the world their “Asia Market” will collapse too. We’ve this happen in the past with many more important artists. IMO the bottom line is not if the grow is organic or slow or fast.. it’s whether these artists are capable of producing relevant new art and not just repeating exactly the same formula that sold once or twice well is Asia. And most of them don’t seam capable if this. They continue to produce products specifically designed for the Asia market. But soon this market will get tired of them too. There’s new competition and tons of new products launched at that market every day. Banksy and his rise is incomparable in any way to these artists.. Not only because of time frame and means Above all because Banksy became who he is today by doing unique works and relevant art, not by selling cartoon paintings and plastic toys in Asia. One man’s plastic toy is another man’s rat clock 🐀 🕰 |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by tab1 on May 5, 2021 13:29:14 GMT 1, 2-3 years and he has risen to this amount from selling previously at a few k? Banksy took 13 years before reached these prices discussed, with plenty of shows and media coverage compared to what exactly ? Let alone all the other great artists from the the past that have taken decades to reach this level, what exactly warrants this great rise ? Just shows the power of social media that has an impact on art markets Being pumped in the Asian markets as a hot investment and great return as a gallery knew how to work the new market of interest? Check back in 5 years and then can discuss his relevance of his market Appealing style of cute comic style characters? Who are these high end collectors and what else is in their collections? The same Asian market puts cola in 20k bottles of wine, just a lot of money splashing around in that market hence entrepreneurs eager to break that market not exactly a market to lead direction? mostly those markets are to flaunt wealth and the higher the tag the greater the interest,we will see the long term outcome , sour grapes ?I would if I purchased at today’s prices and looked back in years time when the market bombs www.google.com/amp/s/winepeek.com/2013/11/25/so-whats-wrong-with-mixing-chateau-lafite-and-coca-cola-anyway/amp/You said that the market was artificially inflated. Now you’re bleating on about Banksy and because the rise hasn’t been what you think is ‘organic’ it is somehow fake. It is wholly irrelevant that some artists take longer to become sought after. Asian markets are huge and they like these type of images, same with Nara, same with Calleja. The relevance of his market is again irrelevant. Many thought Callej’a’s bubble would burst too.
We can exchange banksy as comparison for many other deserving artists just as we are on a banksy forum the choice as a comparison.
Relying on one huge market that can quickly change favoritism based on popularity is risky in a fickle market .
The Asian market is unique and does not represent the wider markets and is driven by pretentiousness and a display of ones wealth is admired not the desire for talent and artistic merits
Comic cartoon characters is the base of work, how can this evolve ?
2-3 years and he has risen to this amount from selling previously at a few k? Banksy took 13 years before reached these prices discussed, with plenty of shows and media coverage compared to what exactly ? Let alone all the other great artists from the the past that have taken decades to reach this level, what exactly warrants this great rise ? Just shows the power of social media that has an impact on art markets Being pumped in the Asian markets as a hot investment and great return as a gallery knew how to work the new market of interest? Check back in 5 years and then can discuss his relevance of his market Appealing style of cute comic style characters? Who are these high end collectors and what else is in their collections? The same Asian market puts cola in 20k bottles of wine, just a lot of money splashing around in that market hence entrepreneurs eager to break that market not exactly a market to lead direction? mostly those markets are to flaunt wealth and the higher the tag the greater the interest,we will see the long term outcome , sour grapes ?I would if I purchased at today’s prices and looked back in years time when the market bombs www.google.com/amp/s/winepeek.com/2013/11/25/so-whats-wrong-with-mixing-chateau-lafite-and-coca-cola-anyway/amp/You said that the market was artificially inflated. Now you’re bleating on about Banksy and because the rise hasn’t been what you think is ‘organic’ it is somehow fake. It is wholly irrelevant that some artists take longer to become sought after. Asian markets are huge and they like these type of images, same with Nara, same with Calleja. The relevance of his market is again irrelevant. Many thought Callej’a’s bubble would burst too. We can exchange banksy as comparison for many other deserving artists just as we are on a banksy forum the choice as a comparison. Relying on one huge market that can quickly change favoritism based on popularity is risky in a fickle market . The Asian market is unique and does not represent the wider markets and is driven by pretentiousness and a display of ones wealth is admired not the desire for talent and artistic merits Comic cartoon characters is the base of work, how can this evolve ? |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Deleted on May 5, 2021 13:30:52 GMT 1, Are you crypto gang the new Yuppies?
Ha ha I’m not a crypto guy. I’ve dabbled for fun but it’s for the cyber kids.
There is a reality though that many youngsters are making more money than we’ll ever see and art is the best ego buy after the lambos.
It’s pushing prices up across the art world IMO
Are you crypto gang the new Yuppies? Ha ha I’m not a crypto guy. I’ve dabbled for fun but it’s for the cyber kids. There is a reality though that many youngsters are making more money than we’ll ever see and art is the best ego buy after the lambos. It’s pushing prices up across the art world IMO |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by artzzzy on May 5, 2021 13:39:43 GMT 1, I think that if all these artists become gradually irrelevant in the rest of the world their “Asia Market” will collapse too. We’ve this happen in the past with many more important artists. IMO the bottom line is not if the grow is organic or slow or fast.. it’s whether these artists are capable of producing relevant new art and not just repeating exactly the same formula that sold once or twice well is Asia. And most of them don’t seam capable if this. They continue to produce products specifically designed for the Asia market. But soon this market will get tired of them too. There’s new competition and tons of new products launched at that market every day. Banksy and his rise is incomparable in any way to these artists.. Not only because of time frame and means Above all because Banksy became who he is today by doing unique works and relevant art, not by selling cartoon paintings and plastic toys in Asia. All I hear is jealousy. Why would the biggest economy in the world not be able to support its own art economy? The Asian market has different tastes to other markets and Edgar and many others are loved in that continent. Suck it up buttercup the price is what it is.
Jealousy of what?
I feel you took my post in a negative and rather personal way.
It’s not about how strong the Asian economy is.
We’re not talking about consumer goods here.
I’m not saying the Asian market is not strong.
I’m saying the Asians will lose interest if these artists don’t up their game.
Asia has been leading the world economically for many years now.
What is happening in China already happened in Japan in the late eighties/nineties
The Japanese were spending crazy prices for works by certain European/American artists
The market/prices went out of control.. but when the Japanese lost interest and their economy slowed down it took only a few months for that fragile market to collapse
Still today after twenty years the works of those artists cannot reach the numbers they used to sell for in the nineties
I think that if all these artists become gradually irrelevant in the rest of the world their “Asia Market” will collapse too. We’ve this happen in the past with many more important artists. IMO the bottom line is not if the grow is organic or slow or fast.. it’s whether these artists are capable of producing relevant new art and not just repeating exactly the same formula that sold once or twice well is Asia. And most of them don’t seam capable if this. They continue to produce products specifically designed for the Asia market. But soon this market will get tired of them too. There’s new competition and tons of new products launched at that market every day. Banksy and his rise is incomparable in any way to these artists.. Not only because of time frame and means Above all because Banksy became who he is today by doing unique works and relevant art, not by selling cartoon paintings and plastic toys in Asia. All I hear is jealousy. Why would the biggest economy in the world not be able to support its own art economy? The Asian market has different tastes to other markets and Edgar and many others are loved in that continent. Suck it up buttercup the price is what it is. Jealousy of what? I feel you took my post in a negative and rather personal way. It’s not about how strong the Asian economy is. We’re not talking about consumer goods here. I’m not saying the Asian market is not strong. I’m saying the Asians will lose interest if these artists don’t up their game. Asia has been leading the world economically for many years now. What is happening in China already happened in Japan in the late eighties/nineties The Japanese were spending crazy prices for works by certain European/American artists The market/prices went out of control.. but when the Japanese lost interest and their economy slowed down it took only a few months for that fragile market to collapse Still today after twenty years the works of those artists cannot reach the numbers they used to sell for in the nineties |
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Edgar Plans 🇪🇸 Sculpture • Madrid • NBA Basketball , by Winks on May 5, 2021 13:43:21 GMT 1, You said that the market was artificially inflated. Now you’re bleating on about Banksy and because the rise hasn’t been what you think is ‘organic’ it is somehow fake. It is wholly irrelevant that some artists take longer to become sought after. Asian markets are huge and they like these type of images, same with Nara, same with Calleja. The relevance of his market is again irrelevant. Many thought Callej’a’s bubble would burst too. We can exchange banksy as comparison for many other deserving artists just as we are on a banksy forum the choice as a comparison. Relying on one huge market that can quickly change favoritism based on popularity is risky in a fickle market . The Asian market is unique and does not represent the wider markets and is driven by pretentiousness and a display of ones wealth is admired not the desire for talent and artistic merits Comic cartoon characters is the base of work, how can this evolve ?
You need to stay on point. You said it was artificially inflated, it’s not.
Seems to me two sides of the argument; those who bought and those who didn’t
You said that the market was artificially inflated. Now you’re bleating on about Banksy and because the rise hasn’t been what you think is ‘organic’ it is somehow fake. It is wholly irrelevant that some artists take longer to become sought after. Asian markets are huge and they like these type of images, same with Nara, same with Calleja. The relevance of his market is again irrelevant. Many thought Callej’a’s bubble would burst too. We can exchange banksy as comparison for many other deserving artists just as we are on a banksy forum the choice as a comparison. Relying on one huge market that can quickly change favoritism based on popularity is risky in a fickle market . The Asian market is unique and does not represent the wider markets and is driven by pretentiousness and a display of ones wealth is admired not the desire for talent and artistic merits Comic cartoon characters is the base of work, how can this evolve ? You need to stay on point. You said it was artificially inflated, it’s not. Seems to me two sides of the argument; those who bought and those who didn’t |
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